HomeMy WebLinkAbout0916 MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY - SEPTEMBER 16, 1986
7:00 P.M. - CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE
STUDY SESSION WAS HELD PRIOR TO THE MEETING BEGINNING AT 5:00 IN THE COUNCIL
CHAMBER CONFERENCE ROOM.
1. CALL TO ORDER
Vice Chairman Erwood called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
11 . PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Downs led in the pledge of allegiance.
Ili . ROLL CALL
Members Present: Rick Erwood, Vice Chairman
Bob Downs
Jim Richards
Carol Whitlock
Members Absent: Buford Crites
Staff Present: Steve Smith
49 . Timothy Connors
Phil Drell
Tonya Monroe
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Consideration of September 2, 1986 minutes.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
approving the September 2, 1986 minutes. Carried 4-0.
V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION
Mr. Smith summarized council action from its meeting of September
11 , 1986.
V1 . CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Case No. PMW 86-17 - KWL ASSOCIATES, INC., Applicant
Request for approval of a parcel map waiver to
create one parcel to facilitate construction of a
commercial project combining the east 112. of Lot
%NW
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 16, 1986
157 and all of Lots 158 and 159 of Palma Village, goo
Unit #7.
B. Case No. PMW 86-19 - ASL CONSULTING ENGINEERS, Applicant
Request for approval of a parcel map waiver to
consolidate three vacant parcels into one, Lots
1 , 4 and 5, Palm Village Gardens Tract.
C. Case No. PP 85-28 - CAMPBELL HOLDINGS, Applicant
Request for a one year time extension for the
development of 8.8 acres of land on Highway III
and Fred Waring Drive.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
approving the consent calendar by minute motion. Carried 4-0.
VII . PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Continued Case No. CUP 86-1 - ATLANTIC RICHFIELD, Applicant air
Request for approval of a conditional use permit
to allow replacement of existing one island gas
station at the southwest corner of Highway III
and Portola Avenue with a two island station and
2000 sq. ft. convenience store.
Mr. Drell distributed copies of the revised plan, reviewed the
changes, and indicated that commission should decide if the use and
arrangement of the project was proper. He stated that approval from
Caltrans must be obtained for the median break and median design.
Staff recommended approval based on visual appearance and safety
factors.
Commissioner Richards expressed concern regarding the compatibility
and design. Mr. Drell explained that the applicant had provided
revised plans and after site design is established, the aesthetics
of the building could be made to comply with what the city wants.
Commissioner Whitlock stated that while there would be a substantial
improvement to the site, she was concerned about the need for an
2
aw
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 16, 1986
'•" additional mini market with a Circle K across the street and with
the locality to the President's Plaza businesses. She asked if the
applicant expected people to use the mini-market because of the gas
station.
Vice Chairman Erwood opened the public testimony and asked the
applicant to address the commission.
MR. FRANK WELLS, Atlantic Richfield, indicated that in the past
two weeks their plans had been revised three times. He stated
that the architectural commission has twice approved the
changes (elimination of rear wall and use of barrel tile roof
with muted brown, yellow, and earth tone stripes) .
Commissioner Richards informed the applicant that because the corner
was very prominent, council would take a stern look at the design
and advised the applicant to come up with something that would be
unique. He also expressed concern regarding the design of the mini
market.. Mr. Wells felt the present design was unique and did not
look like a gas station and mini market and indicated that the
Frontage Road would be landscaped with canopy trees, which would
mute the mini market impact. Mr. Wells stated that 1f the plans
were changed again, it would go back to the architectural commission
and then back again to planning commission. Commissioner Richards
stated that he did not feel that he could determine compatibility at
this time without seeing a revised design. Mr. Wells stated that
since the architectural commission had approved it, he would like to
keep the present design. Mr. Wells commented that some customers
would buy gas only, some gas and food, and some food only; he
indicated that a percentage of each could not be predicted at this
time.
Commissioner Whitlock asked if the mini market customers would be
parking in the President's Plaza. Mr. Wells answered that by their
joining in the President's Plaza maintenance program, they would be
permitted to share parking and indicated that additional parking may
not be needed with the four spaces being provided on the south side
of the gas station. Mr. Wells indicated that he would obtain
approval from Caltrans for the median and approval of the landscape
plan by the architectural commission.
Vice Chairman Erwood asked if anyone present wished to speak in
FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposed. There being no one, Vice
Chairman Erwood closed the public_ testimony.
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 16, 1986
Commissioner Downs stated that he felt the applicant went out of his me
way to comply with revisions by the city and felt the project was
compatible.
Commissioner Whitlock felt that it was a substantial improvement but
had concerns with the mini market. She concurred with concerns
expressed by Commissioner Richards.
Commissioner Richards stated that his feelings had been expressed in
two separate meetings and felt that the project has come a long way
after city requests for revision and the applicant's compliance. He
noted that Caltrans would hold up the development some more.
Commissioner Richards stated that he would move for approval with
the request that the plans come back through staff and architectural
commission with compatibility problems highlighted. He recommended
that the applicant look at the design of the post office arches,
utilize sandstone, and improve landscaping. He stated that he
would approve the case if it is passed to architectural commission
and if staff would let architectural commission know that planning
commission still has concerns and would like modification of the
materials to be used.
Vice Chairman Erwood stated that he agreed with Commissioners Downs
and Richards that the mini market was a compatible use in that area
and felt the whole issue of architecture to be used for that facility
should be added as a condition of approval that the appearance should
be appropriate, since the case had come back with so many changes.
He felt that the project going back to architectural commission would
be appropriate to solidify the type of building commission would
approve.
Mr. Drell indicated that staff should be directed to prepare a
resolution of approving the precise plan and conditional use permit.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Richards,
instructing staff to prepare a resolution of approval to be presented
at the next meeting. Carried 3-1 (Commissioner Whitlock voting no. )
B. Continued Case No. DA 86-6/Parcel Map - CHARTER COMMUNITIES,
Applicant
Request for approval of a Development Agreement
and Parcel Map for 239 unit congregate
care/skilled nursing facility.
4
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 16, 1986
Mr. Drell explained that the item was discussed in study session and
summarized that discussion. He indicated that an option would be
created to allow the applicant to pay an amount equivalent to the
cost of the affordable units, which would be paid into a general
fund account to assist in the development of conventional senior
housing in the Palma Village area. The number of total units would
be based on one unit per congregate care and half for nursing homes.
Commissioner Downs indicated that this was the only option in the
future for congregate care type projects in the senior overlay.
Vice Chairman Erwood opened the public testimony and asked if the
applicant wished to address the commission.
MR. ROBERT BARTON, Charter Communities, asked about the time
frame involved to add the change. Mr. Drell replied that it
would come back to the next meeting.
Vice Chairman Erwood asked if anyone presented wished to speak in
FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposed. There being no one, Vice
Chairman Erwood requested a motion.
Commissioner Richards requested that staff also present to the
Now commission a working diagram of the uses.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
instructing staff to prepare a resolution and agreement per
commission direction. Carried 4-0.
C. Continued Case No. PP 86-34 and CUP 86-4 - RICHARD SELEINE,
Applicant
Request for approval of a Precise Plan of Design
and Conditional Use Permit for a 7-11 food store
on the northwest corner of Highway 111 and Park
View Drive.
Mr. Smith outlined the salient points of the staff report and
explained that the City of Rancho Mirage has urged since January
that this application be denied on this site. Staff recommended
denial .
5
%or
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 16, 1986
Vice Chairman Erwood opened the public testimony and asked the rrf
applicant to address the commission.
MR. NICK TAGLIA stated that he wished to address the concerns
of Rancho Mirage. He addressed two major items, one being that
Rancho Mirage was basing it recommendation on testimony from
one year ago and, two another proposal would fit there and be
useful because of the increased tourism. He felt this proposal
would be an improvement to what has been there and indicated it
would be a franchise system. He indicated that they support
many charities ( i .e. March of Dimes, Little League) . He stated
that there was no reason for Rancho Mirage to keep badgering
them down and indicated that he would like to see a
recommendation for approval .
Commissioner Richards expressed concern regarding traffic patterns.
Mr. Taglia stated that the traffic count would be approximately 1100
car trips and was approved by their real estate department for
ingress and egress. Commissioner Richards felt that this site was
not suitable for safety reasons.
MR. RICHARD SELEINE, applicant and architect, stated that he
has worked very hard to design a project that would fit into
the community. He stated that the architectural commission
also agreed. He indicated that the project was designed for
Palm Desert and not Rancho Mirage. He felt that using the
recommendation of Rancho Mirage was no reason for asking for a
denial . Mr. Seleine stated that the traffic on Highway III was
zoned commercial and noted that it was a small site. He felt
that the proposal would be good for the city.
Commissioner Downs stated that the residents in the area effected
are residents of Rancho Mirage and indicated that the city tries to
be compatible with them. He also noted that this was the entryway
into the city.
Mr. Seleine stated that if the residents don't like the project, he
would like to hear from them because they are the ones that count.
Vice Chairman Erwood asked if anyone present wished to speak in
FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposed.
MR. WILLIAM CHASE, 72-285 Barbara Drive Rancho Mirage, indicated
that he had received a letter from Alcohol Beverage Control and
asked the residents for any objections. Mr. Chase stated that
he had over 30 petitions against the project. His main concerns
6
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 16, 1986
were with traffic safety (he quoted passages from a
environmental impact report of 1985 for that area) , safety, and
felt the lifestyle of local residents would be jeopardized and
noted that a realtor had previously occupied this site, and
indicated that another convenience store was located half a
mile away, in addition to the Vons and Longs stores located
within a short distance.
Mr. Seleine indicated that while he has heard from some of the
neighborhood, he would like to talk with more of the residents
because the neighbors would be the best customers and store support.
Mr. Nick Taglia stated that at the time the application was filed he
knew of no protest filed to Alcoholic Beverage Control . He requested
an opportunity to talk with the neighbors. Mr. Smith noted that One
Quail could be a potential client also.
Commissioner Richards informed the applicant that because of this
area being the entry into the city and the proposed project being a
convenience store, there might be political opposition. He indicated
that he still had serious concern for the amount of traffic
generated. Commissioner Richards also noted that 70,000 square feet
of commercial development with a hotel , food market, and open area
w was planned for that area and did not feel the convenience store was
appropriate for that location. He felt that maybe a monument should
be erected there.
Commissioner Whitlock stated that she had concerns with a convenience
store and because of the location being the gateway into the city.
She felt that since knowing the viewpoint of council , a continuance
might be a waste of the applicant's time. Mr. Taglia replied that he
would like the opportunity even if is a waste of time.
Commissioner Downs stated that with the feelings of city council and
the commission, with a vote to deny the project the applicant could
appeal the decision to the council and have 30 days to canvass the
neighborhood.
Vice Chairman Erwood asked the applicant how much time was needed.
Mr. Taglia replied two weeks. Mr. Smith indicated that the case
would not need to be re-noticed, but suggested that commission might
wish to continue the hearing to October 21 to allow adequate time.
Mr. Taglia indicated that would be fine. Commissioner Richards
stated that he would be more comfortable continuing the case to
October 21 to allow the director of public works to give a report on
traffic issues.
7
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 16, 1986
Commissioner Richards indicated a motion could be made to direct
staff to prepare a complete traffic analysis with amounts of ingress
and egress that the site can handle. Vice Chairman Erwood indicated
that this would allow staff and the applicant to further address
traffic, gateway entry, and the communities this will effect.
It was moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Vice Chairman
Erwood, to continue this case to October 21 , 1986. The vote was 2-2
(Commissioners Downs and Whitlock voting no) . Counsel indicated that
the action was a denial of the motion.
It was moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner
Whitlock, to approve the findings as presented by staff to deny the
project. The vote was 2-2 and the motion failed.
Mr. Smith recommended that commission refer the matter to city
council without a recommendation. Commission concurred.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock,
referring PP86-34/CUP 86-4 to city council without a planning
commission recommendation. Carried 4-0.
Vlll . MISCELLANEOUS rM
A. Case No. VAR 86-5 - FLYING BUTTRESS, Applicant
Request for approval of a resolution for a
variance to section 25. 16. 050 (development
standards for R-1 lots) specifically to reduce
the required lot area from 8000 square feet to
6420 square feet and to reduce the required lot
width from a minimum 70 feet to a minimum 60 feet
in order to facilitate a future lot split of the
existing 12840 square foot lot located at the
southwest corner of El Cortez Way and Santa Ynez
Avenue.
Mr. Smith explained that this was the resolution that commission
directed staff to prepare for adoption.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock,
adopting the findings as presented by staff. Carried 4-0.
8
No
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 16, 1986
�..• Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1183, approving VAR
86-5. Carried 4-0.
B. Case No. PP 86-37 and PM 21812 - C.T.K.O., Applicants
Request for approval of a resolution for a
precise plan implementing conditions of PM 21812
to allow construction of a 117 bed convalescent,
non-ambulatory skilled nursing facility and a
210 bed "residential group home" for the elderly
on 10 acres in the PR-5 zone at Country Club and
Cook Street.
Mr. Smith stated that as per commission direction from the last
meeting, staff had prepared a resolution for adoption.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Carried 4-0.
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1184, approving PP 86-37
r"• and PM 21812, subject to conditions. Carried 4-0.
C. C-1 Zone Permitted Uses
As directed by the city attorney, commission determined that psychic
activities should be added to the C-1 zone as a permitted use.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded Commissioner Downs, adding
psychic as a permitted use in the C-1 zone. Carried 4-0.
D. Civic Center Master Plan
Mr. Smith stated that Chairman Crites had expressed concern regarding
how the College of the Desert would fit into the plan and into the
review of the master plan. He indicated that Chairman Crites
suggested looking at creating a joint committee from COD and the city
to start from the beginning so that everyone is aware of what is
being planned ( i .e. the sheriff's substation and library) .
It was noted by Commissioner Richards that the site plan committee
was empowered to come up with a plan for the 62 acres to allow
9
MINUTES
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 16, 1986
various activities into the city, then they selected a group and were .r
discuss different types of uses such as parks or government offices.
A mixture of the various suggestions was what was presented for
review by the commission during study session and will be finalized
on the final plan. Commissioner Richards asked the commission what
they would prefer to see on the 62 acres. He suggested 1/3 as parks,
baseball fields, tennis courts, bocci ball , outdoor bowling, and a
fire weapons range.
Commissioner Whitlock stated that she liked what had been suggested
but didn't understand the connection to the college and the number of
tennis courts. She stated that she liked the park concept, which
would leave an area to grow; YMCA and sheriff's would be acceptable
and lay out a space for city hall to expand. Commissioner Richards
explained they were trying to avoid for 10-15 years from now capital
outlay on the part of both the college and the city for future
expansion. He stated they intend to integrate the facilities offered
by the college, city, and county. He noted that the park theme could
be carried all the way up San Pablo to E1 Paseo.
Commission concurred with the uses of parks (as holding areas,
also) , sheriff's substation, and suggested multiple use buildings
and a miniature golf course (which could be utilized by the high
school ) .
.r
IX. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None.
X. COMMENTS
None.
X I. ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
adjourning the meeting. Carried 4-0. The meeting was ourned at
8:40 p.m.
D I AZ, Sec to
ATTEST:
.,r)
ORD .CRJ S, 6hairman
AM,"
10