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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY - OCTOBER 7, 1986
7:00 P.M. - CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE
STUDY SESSION WAS HELD PRIOR TO THE MEETING BEGINNING AT 6:00 IN THE COUNCIL
CHAMBER CONFERENCE ROOM.
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Crites called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
II . PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Mr. Diaz led in the pledge of allegiance.
III. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Buford Crites, Chairman
Bob Downs
Rick Erwood
Jim Richards
Carol Whitlock
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Ray Diaz
Tim Connors
Phil Drell
Phil Joy
Catherine Sass
Joe Gaugush
Tonya Monroe
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Consideration of September 16, 1986 minutes.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock,
approving the minutes as submitted. Carried 4-0-1 (Chairman Crites
abstained) .
V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION
Mr. Drell reviewed the actions of the September 25, 1986 city
council meeting as they pertained to the planning commission.
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VI . AWARDS AND PRESENTATIONS MW
The planning commission presented a resolution to Ralph Wood in
appreciation of the effort, concern and care he put forth on the
city's behalf.
Commissioner Wood stated that the resolution was unique and felt
that Mr. San Pedro had done an excellent job. He thanked the
commission for the resolution and also congratulated Commissioner
Whitlock on her appointment to the commission.
Vil. CONSENT CALENDAR
Commissioner Downs requested that #A be removed from the consent
calendar. Commission concurred.
B. Case No. PMW 86-20 - WILLIAM MURRAY & ASSOC., Applicant
Request for approval of a parcel map waiver to
adjust the property lines along the easterly
boundary of unimproved portion of Kings Point
Tract No. 4380- 1 and resolve encroachment of
improvements by existing portion of said Kings
Point.
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C. Case No. PMW 86-21 - WILLIAM MURRAY & ASSOC. , Applicant
Request for approval of a parcel map waiver to
adjust the property lines along the easterly
boundary of unimproved portion of Kings Point
Tract No. 13323 and resolve encroachment of
improvements by existing portion of said Kings
Point.
D. Case No. PMW 86-24 - DON & GRACE LINTON, Applicants
Request for approval of a parcel map waiver to
resolve encroachment on Lots 218 & 219 of Tract
No. 4399.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Erwood,
approving the consent calendar by minute motion. Carried 5-0.
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'ow A. Case No. TT 19503 - GEORGE FOX, Applicant
Request for approval of a one year time extension
for TT 19503.
Commissioner Downs explained that he removed this item from the
consent calendar to remind the applicant about the commission's
policy to grant only one time extension.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
approving the one-year time extension. Carried 5-0.
VIII . PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Continued Case No. CUP 86-1 - ATLANTIC RICHFIELD, Applicant
Request for approval of a conditional use permit
to allow replacement of existing one island gas
station at the southwest corner of Highway III
and Portola Avenue with a two island station and
2000 sq. ft. convenience store.
low Mr. Drell outlined the salient points of the staff report.
Commissioner Richards indicated that the design of the development
was closer to what he asked for and stated that he would be like it
to go to the architectural commission for final review.
Commissioner Whitlock stated that she never disagreed that there was
an improvement, but expressed opposition to the AM PM market because
of traffic.
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked if the
applicant wished to address the commission.
FRANK WELLS addressed the issue of traffic_ by stating that
after study, it was determined that their projects do no
generate additional traffic because if someone was going out to
make a purchase the only decision to make is where. He also
indicated that he would like the opportunity to go back to the
architectural commission for final design. Mr. Wells stated
that the only question he had on the conditions was the 22 foot
dedication on the west side and the agreement where the city
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would donate 20 feet on the north side. Mr. Wells described the
design changes that had been made.
Mr. Drell indicated that it would be added to condition #14 that a
portion of the right-of-way on the north boundary would be vacated
as part of this project to the owner.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposed. There was no one.
Chairman Crites stated that he also had concerns regarding traffic,
but felt that the design was an advantage.
Commissioner Whitlock inquired about Caltrans approval . Mr. Drell
informed commission that the case would have to come back if there
were a problem with Caltrans. Mr. Wells indicated that they should
have an answer from Caltrans in three weeks.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Carried 4-1
(Commissioner Whitlock voting no) .
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1185, approving CUP 86-1 ,
subject to conditions as amended. Carried 4-1 (Commissioner Whitlock
voting no) .
B. Continued Case No. DA 86-6/Parcel Map - CHARTER COMMUNITIES,
Applicant
Request for approval of a Development Agreement
and Parcel Map for 239 unit congregate
care/skilled nursing facility.
Mr. Drell indicated that the basic difference between senior housing
and congregate care are the services provided. He explained how the
in-lieu fee would be calculated. Staff recommended approval of the
development agreement and the parcel map.
Commission questioned the technical aspects of the agreement that
had not been resolved, but expressed general agreement with the
In-lieu figure of $460,000 and the method of calculation.
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Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked the applicant
to address the commission.
MS. JEAN EDWARDS, attorney for Charter Communities, felt that
senior housing was needed in Palm Desert and indicated that if
the fees were too high a project would not be feasible.
MR. ROBERT BARTON indicated that he had not had a chance to
address this fully, but expressed agreement with the in-lieu
fee being the best way to handle the affordable housing issue.
He indicated that he would like the figure lowered based on HUD
and FHA figures and formulas.
Commissioner Downs commented that he thought that this matter was
pretty much settled at the joint session and the meeting between
Charter Communities , the city manager, Dick Kelly, and Buford
Crites. Mr. Barton replied that he did not know that they were
talking about dollars and cents figures.
Commissioner Erwood stated that a figure was quoted at $10,000 per
unit. He indicated that once again the commission adjusted the
figure downward and now the applicant was asking for the figures to
be changed again. He wondered why the applicant did not bring this
ir.. up at the meeting when it was discussed. Mr. Barton replied that
they did agree to the in-lieu fee.
Mr. Drell stated that. Mr. Reynolds had a copy of the staff report
and calculations the day after the city council meeting. He also
met with Mr. Reynolds several times.
MR. NORM REYNOLDS discussed further the method of calculation.
Commissioner Erwood suggested splitting the difference of the fee.
Mr. Reynolds replied that if the commission approved the in- lieu fee
method of calculation, they would appeal to the council .
Chairman Crites indicated that Mr. Barton said he had not received
the information and asked Mr. Reynolds if he had received
notification. Mr. Reynolds stated that after the last council
meeting he picked up a staff report that was incomplete. Mr. Drell
stated that the report was exactly the same except that part of it
was hand written, in addition he had discussed the matter with Mr.
Reynolds.
Mr. Diaz felt that enough time had been spent on this and recommended
that the commission continue the hearing or approval the project.
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Mr. Reynolds asked if there was any other alternative. Commissioner
Richards indicated that the whole thing could be denied and they
could appeal to the council . Chairman Crites noted that final
approval rests with the city council .
Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposed. There was no one.
Chairman Crites asked if there were any other issues besides the
technical wording between the attorneys that should not be
recommended. Mr. Drell informed the commission that he would not
advertise for the council until those items had been resolved.
Chairman Crites asked Mr. Connors if it would be wise for the
commission to recommend approval for something that has major or
minor flaws. Mr. Connors replied that he did not know the
differences between the attorneys involved but did not feel it would
be a good idea. Mr. Diaz recommended that this case be continued.
Ms. Edwards indicated that the items in question were between
other attorneys, but felt that they were minor.
Commission felt that the case should be continued to November 4,
1986. Mr. Reynolds said that if he were to agree to the development
agreement as written and the fee structure, he wanted to know what
changes could be discussed between now and the council meeting. Mr.
Drell gave an example of what the differences were. Mr. Diaz stated
that he would like the matter settled before going to city council
and recommended a continuance to November 4, 1986. He indicated
that commission did not want to coerce the applicant into agreeing
to something he was against. Mr. Reynolds asked if there was no
option but a continuance. Commission, staff, and the city attorney
all felt a continuance was necessary.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
continuing Case No. DA 86-6 to November 4, 1986.
A FIVE MINUTE RECESS WAS CALLED AT 8: 10 P.M.
C. Case Nos. PP 86-42 and PMW 86-23 - ROBERT RICCIARDI, Applicant
Request for approval of a precise plan of design
and parcel map waiver to allow construction of a
seven unit apartment project in the R-3 zone on
Driftwood Street at Sunset Lane.
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Ms. Sass outlined the salient points of the staff report and
indicated that a parcel map waiver application had not been received.
Commissioner Downs asked about a condition for school fees. Mr.
Diaz replied that it was covered under condition #3, but would be
specifically addressed and added as a separate condition.
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked if the
applicant wished to address the commission.
MR. ROBERT RICCIARDI , 45-275 Prickly Pear Lane, expressed
agreement with the staff report and conditions.
Commissioner Whitlock asked if the applicant understood the
conditions from Brent Counley of the sheriff's department. Mr.
Ricciardi indicated that he had only one problem with all the doors
facing the street and that was the glass next to the front door would
have to be draped. He stated that he would like to keep that
feature, if possible. He indicated that he would do as much as he
could. Chairman Crites asked if it would be safety glass. Mr.
Ricciardi replied that it was required by code.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
�.r OPPOSITION to the proposed. There being no one, the public testimony
was closed.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Richards,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Richards,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1186, approving PP
86-42. Carried 5-0.
D. Case No. CUP 86-6 - RANDY McWILLIAMS, Applicant
Request for approval of a conditional use permit
for a restaurant use on the northwest corner of
Alessandro and the Frontage Road.
Ms. Sass outlined the salient points of the staff report and
recommended denial due to lack of parking spaces.
Chairman Crites opened the public testimony and asked if the
applicant wished to address the commission.
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MR. RANDY MCWILLIAMS, applicant, clarified that the location of WAN
the project was the Frontage Road and San Carlos. He presented
photos of the parking to the planning commission. He felt that
the pictures depicted adequate available space for their needs
in front of the proposed restaurant on the Frontage Road.
MRS. ANTIONETTE MCWILLIAMS also reviewed the parking space
situation and asked for approval .
Commissioner Richards noted that in calculating the parking, staff
did not use any Frontage Road parking. Staff indicated that this
was correct. Commissioner Richards felt that the parking spaces
directly in front could be counted in this case. He stated that
he had a concern with the Lock Shop trucks parked out front, but
indicated that if a letter from the Lock Shop was obtained stating
that the restaurant could use the parking and that they would park
their trucks in the back, he would be in favor. After determining
that the applicant was leasing space from the Lock Shop, commission
asked that it be required that the Lock Shop park their vehicle away
from the Frontage Road. Staff indicated that if those conditions
were met, they would be in favor of the conditional use permit. Mrs.
McWilliams concurred that the trucks were unsightly and indicated
that she would get a letter from the Lock Shop. Commission also
indicated that it might be possible to include this in part of the
lease.
Mr. Diaz indicated that if this could be worked out with the city
attorney, staff should be instructed to prepare a resolution of
approval pending the letter from the Lock Shop. He felt that a
minute motion was also needed to allow the applicant to proceed with
the permit process. Commission concurred.
Chairman Crites asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposed. There was no one.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock,
instructing staff to prepare a resolution of approval as conditioned.
Carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner Down, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock,
authorizing staff to proceed with the granting of permits if the
applicant submits the proper letter for processing. Carried 5-0.
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IX. MISCELLANEOUS
A. Possible Conditional Use Permit for offices for "There is a
May" Television Ministry
Mr. Diaz explained that staff was requesting a clarification as to
whether or not the television ministry could submit a conditional
use permit to have a facility at this location or whether it would
be considered an office use.
Mr. Batesole, 909 Sandpiper, noted that the acoustics were bad and
indicated that it was difficult to hear. Commissioner Richards
reviewed the comments by staff.
Commissioner Downs stated that he had received several calls in
opposition and indicated that he felt it was an office use.
Ms. Edith Huntoon, 45-731 Portola, stated that it was a residential
neighborhood and she would be against any kind of office use in her
area and felt that it would lower property values.
After further discussion commission determined that the use was
office and Mr. Batesole was informed that the commission was not
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against There is a Way being in Palm Desert, just against this
particular location.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
determining that the requested use is and office use and a
conditional use permit would not apply. Carried 5-0.
B. Smallwood Development Agreement
Mr. Drell explained that at the September 25 council meeting the
number of units was reduced to 12 per acre, with the applicant being
relieved of providing any affordable housing units as well as
creating an in- lieu fee. He outlined how that fee would be
calculated.
Chairman Crites asked how many affordable units were lost and how
many units the fee would provide. Mr. Drell replied that 52 units
were lost and the fee would provide 34.5 units. Mr. Drell indicated
that council even expressed an interest in seeing more of these
types of projects. Commissioner Richards felt the commission should
have some idea of what council would like to see in the future. Mr.
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Diaz indicated that it seemed that everyone was waiting to see what r/
is going to be built.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Erwood,
approving in concept the changes as submitted by staff. Carried
5-0.
C. Commissioner Erwood asked if staff could get the background
information on the legal ramifications of approving
cooperatives.
Commissioner Richards indicated that a preliminary meeting
with staff could be made to that commission could here what he
has to say. Mr. Diaz indicated he would contact the holder of
the note and report back on November 4, 1986. Chairman Crites
suggested that staff find out if financing can be made.
X. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
MR. SANDY BAUM asked about the planning commission meeting on
election night. Chairman Crites indicated that there would be a
meeting. two
Xi . COMMENTS
None.
XII. ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Chairman Crites, adjourning
the meeting. The meeting was adjourned at 9:22 p.m. f//
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