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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY - DECEMBER 16, 1986
7:00 P.M. - CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
73-510 FRED HARING DRIVE
tow 'I % % A M % i . % A A * % % . A x s.
A HALF -HUHP n I= Qhb I'._)IV WAS HELD PRIOR i 0 HE MEE F 06 IN 1 0 , OHNC 1 i_ (_HAMKErl
1UNFtRFNCE ROOM AT M U P,M.
i . CALL TO ORDER
nha i rman E rwood cal i ed the meet i nq ro order at /:07 p.m.
ll . PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
(omminsion=•r Wh4lor_k ied in tine ninoge of ai leginnrp.
III . ROLL CALL
Memner5 P—e pnt : Pick Erwood, Cna i rman
Bob Downs
,iim R!chard,
Caro! Whitlock
Members Absent: None
Kraft Pre5Pnt : Ray Diaz
too Dave Erwin
4teve Smit ;
kither" i nP SaS'_
Dirk rolkE'r
Jonathan Van Moyiand
Tanya Mori-p
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
kon s i oerar i nn for approva : the _ecPmber 2, 1 98o meeting mi nitre .
Action:
Moved by Cnism i _, i oner Downs , s&v nded by Commis;i one r 0 ward_.
approving the Dec emi e - t , ! 9H6 mr Pt i ng m i ngtt.s a qubm i trec.
narr i ed 4-0.
V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION
Ir .. Diaz summarized the i0r ember , 1 , !986 meet i rya f7itv ccunc i
actions.
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Vl . CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Case No. PMW 86-25 - MARLENE ZIMMERMAN, Applicant
knque�,t for apPr-nv_ l Cif � I(-, ! ire an iur,tmer,r
to :] i nw fr)r ri it5t ruc t i nr, of .3 •;w i mm i nc poo I .
B. Case No. PMW 86-26 - GEORGE GREENAMYER, Applicant
i�eque�.t for approval of a parsei map waiver tc,
I y dew,i gn,att� two parre I , created by ti)p
Pa !m Vji ley ';tc>rm i_hannei ledic3tic>n.
C. Case Nos. TT 16691 , PP 84-32 & C/Z 84-12 - MCBAIL COMPANY,
Applicant
., ,,u 5t ror ahp"nv91 of .9 ontn year time
exren on
Action:
Meved by Commi =,sip-}ner Ri .riaro-- seconded t,y c-ommisslonr�r down,,.
,3pprov i ng the consent ra i endar by minute motion. •_arr i ed 4-0.
VII . ORAL COMMUNICATIONS WAO
NOnP.
Vill . PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Continued Case No. PP 86-45 - THOMAS MILLER, Applicant
Reque•_ for approva i of .3 negative d�-c I ara+ inn of
nnv i impact nd , prer i ,F p I ,gin o*
net;i gn ro .31 !ow ron,..truct i on, of 16t; unit i nn, _
to! ! ,(-ry I cp restaUr;Ant and a rias tat i on on 10
acre,:% in tt;F, PC' ( 4) .P. and PP-5 N. �).P. at the
nr>rthe:35t nr nF r of H i ghw.3y 1 1 i and Deep Canynn
M :,.j-._, ;i it i i and the =.a I i ent points of the 5t•3f� report .inn .amended
(7r:)nd i r i on #! 1 anci ##2 i.
i_ha i r m,.in Erwoo :fined *he nuh l i r tatir i tunny and �sF:er7 ;f th;?
ppiir_,nt wished to aadres� the comm is,� on,
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Mit . ')AN01 HAUM, 45-80(, f-jeep C.anyf-.)n, ;t,-jtet! rhat -".ere were
qpnt �amen in attendance who conourtem it c,ounc s'rudv f(-)T, the _ar
wa---n of Kamnn. He stated that ii: rommi �,,,ion felt triere w.3-=. a
prtDbiem, the hourc, �-)f operation could be - imi-[ed.
MR. BOB Residence Inn, indicated that he wa-, prP,-.;-*.,r.r to
answer any qUeST- ions . Upon question,, trom
Richards, Mr, Foster ciaririen that he w,i,, not, inv-.-)ive-j 40—,
rhF- Mnnii mini-market .
MR. )AVID aro-titect-, outli'v-d 1--1e or tr'i'
f Pw plartn;ng Comm s�ican pub] i c hear i ngs. He stated rna,, the
new rlpl. ,gn was approveo by the 3rrnitecrur,31; HP
,Itaterj that wr, i i P t he i r phi 10=(Dphy (-,f ari
uncompli :-ated 3ppr;-),3t",h ;?nci w.j-3 more appropr i .3te, he would nor
debate the i,sup. Comrrii,•,ioner Richards sratfrl rhat thi c. .in
en f r vw,y into) rhp city and wt-)(,, !d t i Kt- to r r e,-.-t r,omernin,3
ciifff>rent -rh.-.jr-, Long H �t t i ea(,r, cir Angplr-s ant-1 a f-ari . �%,/ r).-)-
would long into t!)p f!jttjrp. K H(� -,tated th,it rie wcs:j!(: ! ,io
to see .-D dp°, igri T-F,,-jt wou ; d incorpor,�fF, ancl t f-- ; rj thE,
e of thc ga,
sr't' ion .)n(i felt tnar ; n the I 1jr, r
WQ)Ll!(,' r)eni,f it the Dpp i (-ar,t -p).Dno�--n thar
Mr . 1- 1 oo(j re
monev was not thf- issue, b-it i-1 a concept th.-
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fam j I iar with, Mr . Flood stated hc, woulc! rr—,pond rc; r!if,
c(:,n(-C.,T-n,5,
MP. KEN KjMBAj..[.. . rar wash mr3nufartilrer. Out inef:1 tr !:-* nrDiso
I eve lS to bp e),,perte,- and fell- it, romparc-c to vacuum r F,,,-jner
-it noise wot C D n,.ino, a I f,- noi ,,p -1 not oe --j pr�.)! i en. n.3�r r -3 n r-woc)ri
.9 c-,k e a i f Mr . K i mt;.D I i h.3d t a k e r; a no i se r eQd i riq at H;gr;w:,,y 1 1 1
and Upep Canyon. Mr. K i mha 1 I res{.oncied no, he cl;,�-: nt::!- kn_')w
it was a concern. Chairman Erwood ;tared tnat comm ss,ior, w—,
r(-)n(-Prnerj' wirn .3 rar wasn in that on and -I)P r.qir 1,. hicili
no i se i evr- . as 5t,-jtEzj i n the %taff repor t . Mr . K i mbj, ! i ,tat od
that fh(-y are normal Iv open *7:ui,! ,a.m. to 6:Cif-I p.m. and felt tho
hours :,hnuJcj not Or- a problem. Comm s,=,i onF-r P i chard, asked ' f
any of the cdr washes operated From H: o a.m. to 6:00 p.m. Mr .
K i mbal I responded that most car washes operate .'4 hours. Mr .
mt--),-3 1 1 a i so stated that a door rou 1 d be i r,,ta I I ed t(.-; (-rp,3t-.-, .3
no;c:p barrier !Pvei of le-.s than 67 cipril:)els and wnuld ;ower
I -- -)(i I t-I during the dry run. ,.hairman Erwood :,� arerl ma-T: he w( like
the door to be clown during trie wash anti dry cyt. le.
Chairman Erwood asked if ,3nv(-)ne pre,•Pnt wishe'd to -,peak in FAVOR
OPPOSITION to the prc-)posed.
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mI _ Vii_ �iAtitil_ER, 441 Halcen Court-Hidden Pales, exprec._•en
concern regal cling the date Fcaim treFs. He felt the appI ;cant
shou 1 ci be required to ma i nt,. i n them, i;hi i rmar: ', rwood si-,�ten
th_it this ro,jId be required a . a condition of approva !"r.
Diaz stated that the ^..ate palm tree-, acting as barrier, Of that
,)ort ,on cif the plan should be maintainea anc if then should
die, they sl coti i Ci be rer)i•3,,ed by a date palm tree aS :approved by
city stuff.
MR. BOB HLIRBARD, /4-6�0 f gra 1 e, Palm Springs, st•_ited tr,at they
were nor complaining about the cost, but feit that some of
the things. no I d i nq the project up were not neces,ary. 11e
to I T tt,._..jt approval �.hou i d be given to the hate i and re,.taurar.T
now ,ynri titan ;3pprc_cva I could be obtained for the Car wash and gas
sTltion jet .3 iater date. He al =.o stated that if the Oates are
eliminared as they St,3rt, clean up snou!d not be .a problem.
C..hairman Arwood closed the public testimony,
romm i sue.i(Drier Wh i t I ock ,agreed with 5raf t 'that the g.aS stat ;on .and car
wash; needed more work.
._ommi s5 i on,er Richards stated that he would 1 i!<f_ to pass this pro ert
with the ability of staff to approve the necessary change; that have
been required. He tc? 1 t that problems with the Car" wash anc-;
arc Otectc_,re of the gas station could he workea out . HP a i sc, to t
that the pro.iert �,houid be passed wit!) the modifications to the
cony,itions. Mr . [)iaz tiummarized the conditions.
i ommi s ionc�r Wrc i t lork ras.i ed if Staff nad received prntos tram
:�cotrSdaIe. Mr;, Sa r, replied that the ptcotos receiver wE're of
typical gas t,3t on structures.
i_ommiSSioner Rirhard; felt rhat the modirications being a,;kc,d were
not out of i i ne. Chairman Erwood stated that he wnu i d l i kr� thF
condition added for the hours of operation. Mr. Diaz stated that
the car wash operations hours would be 8:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. and
treat the door on the t,u i !ding will be r 1 osed during operat i er, ,as
weeI a=, the dare palms being maintained. Chairman Erworcd - ,kpd :t
tiiE „ai,p i r.3r;t r.oncurred. He i r.d i rated yec .
Art i on:
Moved by (_:Omm I Ste.I r,nPi R i mares, Ser ended by Whir !clrK ,
adopting the, findings '�;s presented by staff. Carried 4-0.
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low Mr�v(-?(71 by C r;mmis,,i over 1 rh,ards, sFronC1ed r)v ( nmmi ;,tiinner Wil'T'
adopt i ng P I ann i ng t,ommi sc,i on kpso:tit i on No. I I�44. arj)r,rov:rig PP 86-45
.,ubjert to t-onditions as ---impnoed. Carried 4-0.
CHAIPMAN t.RWO(-)L) CALLED A �. IVE MiNhTE PE( E')� AI H:U('j P.M.
B. Continued Case Nos. CUP 86-5 and VAR 86-4 Amendment RICHARD
AND MAY LEE, Applicants
R(-qup-t for approval of a conditional use permiT.-
and as,loriated w3riance to ullnw the cnriverr,ion
of four e)< i-,ting 5tandart-I renta; unir,, t(--; eight
sensor citizen rental uni-,; under provision-, rif
15 . 5Z �)onior Hnusing Overlay of Pairr
Desert Mun i c i pa i (_ode, locate(I at, the sout-hec:i,.r
:-,orner of San R.jfaPl Avenue ,and '-.atalina way.
Mr . Ui �-Yplained that the requ(--j had been witt*iorawn by t,)e
apulir,:int and that no act-ion was reqtmred by the rommi -Isi-1,n.
Art, on:
None.
C. Case PP/CUP 86-50 - R.C. ROBERTS, Applicant
Request f o r apr> -- ova i of a pre
p I 3n/ cond i t i ona ! ij,3p C)ermit .and nega' ]" Ve
cjc'ciaration of env ironmentai i mpa�t to F)ermiT
dpvt-lopmi-rit of a rpriramt,nt i7-ommurdty inc- luding
mob ; ip homes, and ret-r eat ionai vF-hic ies w :11-1h
anciiiary recreational amenities or) an 8"l .3cre
parcel of land on the north c,idp of Frani- Sinatra
L)rive opposite the end of Del `)afari 0rive.
Mr . Smith out i inpd the a] ient" point's of the staff rep;-)rt- ---Ind ri,:)ted
that wa 1 lace, Roberts, and f odd had r e v i ewe(I the P I a n c, and n i a n"t
indicate any Prot)l ems— btaff recomme!ided ap t- t
,ubjec c;
condition,.
Comm is-sioner kjsherds 3,.ked for Ci,31- ifiC,3tion r.-Q,3rding tran,,iert
occupancy taxes. Mr . 'Aith responded that .-I C,Ix Percent nccupanc,v
tr.jx would be levied.
ihairman Erwood qE!-!i-ntd. the puhlic testimony and a,,keci if the
ap)plirant wished to address the commission.
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MR. LLE UVE•1CAMPER, 10 Pau l Dr i ve, tian Patae I , stated that he
had reviewed the conditions of approval and had no problem,.. He
-,tat�--d t!-i;3t he wou l o ne happy to answer any que,t i ons.
Chairman Erwood asked if ,anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposed. There being no one, the public testimony
wac. c IOsec.
Commissioner Whitlock asked if the parcel was within the moratorium.
Mr . Dia repiied nc.
Mr . Diaz ;.asked for a five minute recess at this point.
A FIVE MINUTE RECESS WAS CALLED AT 8: 15 `�,.M.
Chairman Erwood called for cormision comments. Commission Down.
stated that he was in favor of the proposed project and noted that
developments by Mr . Roberts in the past have been well done.
Commissioner Richards aiso felt that the proposed project was
suit,-;hie and wou'cl he a good projerr. Commission concurred.
Act i on:
Moved by r;ommissioner Down ,, seconded by Commissioner Whitlnrk, �
adopting the findings as, presented by staff . Carried 4-0.
Moved by ; ommissioner Downs , seconded by Commissioner Whitlock ,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1191-1, approving PP/CUP
H,6-1->o sub j?rf to conditions. Carried 4-0.
D. Case No. TT 22111 - BIRTCHER MESA VIEW, Applicant
Request for approval of a tentative tract map
subsiv°ding I-H.59 acre-, into 95 lots for future
residential use located south of Homestead,
north of Mesa View Urive and east of Alamo Drive.
Ms . Sass outlined the salient points, of the staff report and
recommended approval .
Commissioner Downs stared that he would be abstaining from any
disrussion.
Chairman Erwood peened the public_ testimony and asked it the
applicant wished to address the commission.
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M.q. MIKE EMI 1-H, Eng i rept, t r(--?m .-I ')av i -I,or, t!1,-17 !-t'V-,y
Nyj met with D1 I tht, requiremer)`,- C,
wt,re prepared to ar,�wer •jny questionc anri notoc ..,-,at the r--icls
had ricien down to one tnnt.
Comm i s�, inner Ri chard`a rric. as ked i +: -oe app i icant w,-3,. aware of- ti-we
requirement for , iaewF1lk and curb and gutrer ai I tne way,' -Irr-lunri. Mr .
'.'mith responded r,,y Saying treat tt)t' sidpwalK on me,,,j View was rin.—
but ou(=;tic,necj the need cm Ai.-jmc, and Art ow Tr,-Jil . (-.mm; sc, ;-)ntr
rh, f-r-lt rt-ifre w,:3,. _3 neeri in the area di;e tc, th number if
walkers and jogger-_ Hr- noted that wrii ;e the appli(,ant wc)(-;!.,:J bc,
_;nderground i ng power poie , therp would bp remnr-jrit�, cj�' P(-,wer
abovf• grnimd. ';'ta IF f indic—ite(I that ulrimateiy an o,,i:,P,ment di,trift-
wn,..0d -iavo tc) ho i-ormed t*(.) iinr-1rgroune (I the rp -,wiining pcin , !"Ir ..J ia-
expiaineo the council policy for' i rista i i ng s i dpwa i K. and indic-itp,:
�r i, I- h m p o s d I,'-)v the r lanni mg
. , .3t 'rhin c_-)nc1i' i ,:)n would rave tc) P
romm4 ,.sion, and jppealeci -o the rounci
whit !cwk congra*-,-iate,j rhr- ipp! i,-.ant for proposinc; 7-i-e
much needed i ng!F, f am; I y hous i ng.
-man trwnoo asked if anyr-ne rim-sent wi,--.I)ec, rC spc-ai, i-% FAVOR 01-
OPPOSITION to the )ropo•=.(,,'J.
UP . B I RE), pr es i rient of i I ver �,r--ur , expres-ed cc)r-cer— with
development C,,n their wF,gt- oor!Jer .. H,e 'ta-en 7nat, i ver `,peer
w i i n favor r) in g I f.-,m; I , p_Vt7, pM(:.r�.j- t-�,!jt' n3-
(I -�_l
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(-1-)!-ii: eT--)s regarding tratfic going Through �)i ; ver spur
-3g(, �)mjrr; r(,--pc,-1(1F-c' t.Iii-
.-jrd ahove ground Mrain.- pron!em5. Mr .
they were WOrKing to nuild beyond H Wh: t-) w(�,
I I _J 1(11 ! :r-V i :it
dr 3 i n.-:�ge pron I erns, r)!- . b i r,:j ;t. ':' t-i-teil rr),3'r !�e had tr,-;uol h -.3r i r:g
the sraft summary and aske,-', if there wr)ljid Oe a wail on the t-ast
nc)unclary. Ms. 5,3,,s rep" iecl a , i.x font perimeter wa ; i oinu 1 r! cle
r n n,t r ii C t F,d. [:r . bird a i �.(:) expressed conre� n C)v tr *he )a c!
,)f-i ghts, ( 1 t i ng 1-onwc,c)d pads -ziS in �--xampie. Mr. ,j ij:7 i n,1 i ed
th,-3t --i cony of the .Taff rep)()rt w,-3-• aV3 i i 9b I P out I ' it i'Ig Thc,-p
ht-i ghi-,,. f-.(-)mrri i'_'i oner R i(-ha r q s st,.3ren that sl-,3ff t-,as clone -ct
great lengths t(') provide a detai led picture on c, 1•-)pe a '
reduce o n 5 r r u c t e d view, . Lir .. -H 7 r d a 4D t-,p e(J
opposition tc) the i -ist a I at i on of ~i dewa 1 P, --)r, Art (7;w (rail ,
,tat ing that it wt.,uid be `he on;y one i.r c _,pul P'Inch.
MR. F'310 Verde Cciurt, sta-eci that he way:
in f.gv(:)r ot t`!e project ;_:incl expre•;socl concern reaard;rc tr apt :(-,
tf-ie wal i , pac h inhrs ane eic-vat inn (due "o ho!e in Thr'
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property ) . Commissioner Richards responded thar the
construction would follow the contour of the land as it is. He
indicated that Mr. Lloyd's property was substantially higher and
noted that maximum size, of the houses were 18 feet.
MR. GENE KISS, 73-270 Riata Trail , asked for and received
clarification on the pad levels, easements, and drainage.
Chairman Erwood closed the public_ testimony.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock,
adopting the findings as presented by staff. Carried 3-0- 1
(Commissioner Downs abstained) .
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1196, .approving Tl 22111
subject to conditions. Carried 3-0- 1 (Commissioner Downs abstained) .
IX. MISCELLANEOUS
None.
X. COMMENTS
A. Chairman Erwood noted that in study session it was the consensu,,
of the commission to ask city council to review the Shadow
Mountain cooperative matter.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
referring the Shadow Mountain cooperative matter to the city council
for review. Carried 3-0- 1 (Commissioner Whitlock abstained) .
B. Commissioner Downs asked for clarification regarding the number
of school hours massage personnel were required to have. Mr.
Erwin explained that when the matter was under study, it was
noted that the number of school hours varied from between. 500
hours and 2000 hours. The final decision was for a figure of
1000 hours.
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X1 . ADJOURNMENT
Moved by commissioner kicnarM5, seconded by (--.t-)mmis;if:)npr D(-,)wr-.1
adjourning the meeting. Carried 4-0.
1-he meeting was adjourned at 8:1�3
.,AMON A. DIAZ, I-)ecret
R I HAYL) ERWO(--)[), Chairman
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