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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY - SEPTEMBER 15, 1987
7:00 P.M. - CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
73-510 FRED HARING DRIVE
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A TWO-HOUR STUDY SESSION WAS HELD PRIOR TO THE MEETING IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER
CONFERENCE ROOM.
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Erwood called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
11. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Downs led in the pledge of allegiance.
III. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Rick Erwood, Chairman
Bob Downs
Faith Ladlow
Jim Richards
Carol Whitlock
Members Absent: None
0w Staff Present: Ray Diaz
Tim Connor
Greg Holtz
Catherine Sass
Tonya Monroe
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Consideration of the September I , 1987 meeting minutes.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Ladlow, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock,
approving the minutes as submitted. Carried 5-0.
V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION
Mr. Diaz explained there were no matters directly impacting the
planning commission.
V1. CONSENT CALENDAR
None.
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Mr. Diaz recommended taking Item Nos. E & F out of order. Upon
discussion, commission indicated the item order should stand.
VII. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Continued Case No. CUP 87-10 - ARCO PETROLEUM PRODUCTS,
Applicant
Request for approval of a negative declaration
of environmental impact and conditional use
permit to allow construction of a gasoline
station and mini-market at the northwest corner
of Portola Avenue and Highway Ill .
Mr. Diaz outlined the salient points of the staff report.
Commissioner Richards noted that public works has a problem with
entrances onto Portola. Mr. Holtz stated that this was correct and
indicated that stacking of cars at that intersection was a problem.
Commission further discussed ingress, egress and traffic.
Chairman Erwood opened the public testimony and asked if the
applicant wished to address the commission.
MR. CRAIG YAMASAKI asked for and received further clarification
of public works concerns. He felt their plan was viable and
expressed a desire to make the project work from both points of
view. He stated that they would remove the other station.
Commissioner Ladlow asked for and received clarification regarding
Highway Ill access and parking.
Chairman Erwood asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposed.
MR. SANDY BAUM, 45-800 Deep Canyon Drive, Palm Desert, felt
there were traffic problems at Portola and Goleta; he also felt
that the Shell station corner was one of the busiest corners and
did not seem to create a problem; he discussed curb cuts and
access and felt that there were no problems today in going in or
out at the existing site; he also indicated that staff was
overacting and felt trying to put in a curb cut on Alessandro
was not realistic.
Mr. Diaz noted that one letter had been received in opposition.
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�..► MS. MARY BROOKS, 73-333 Country Club, representing Roy Barbetty
and Ira Johnson, stated that they are strongly opposed to this
use as one of the most highly visible corners in the city,
other development would enhance the site, an office complex is
being development for the north side and the complex would look
into the rear of the gas station, and felt that if Arco was
concerned about beautification, they would not have let the
present site deteriorate, and that increased traffic on Portola
and access from Highway III would create a serious traffic
problem. She also indicated that she did not want to work
across from a gas station and felt there were better uses for
the site.
MRS. MERTYL BRADDOCK, 73-005 Shadow Mountain, stated that she
travels that road and felt that it would be dangerous to
increase traffic there.
Mr. Yamasaki addressed concerns brought up by the public testimony
and Chairman Erwood then closed the public testimony.
Commissioner Richards felt that this was a better site, noted that
this was the fourth or fifth revision and that the facility will have
restrooms and will be a spanish style design. He felt that it was
time to move this project on its way. Commissioner Richards also
indicated that he would like to see it come back with a curb cut on
Portola. Commissioner Downs agreed.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
finding the use acceptable and instructing staff to prepare a
resolution of approval by minute motion. Carried 3-2 (Chairman
Erwood and Commissioner Ladiow voted no. )
B. Continued Case Nos. GPA 87-3, C/Z 87-7, TT 22690, and PP 87-26 -
TEMPLE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, Applicant
Request for approval of a general plan amendment,
change of zone from PR-3 S.P. to PR-3.5 S.P. ,
a tentative tract, precise plan of design and
negative declaration of environmental impact to
construct 1234 condominium units and a golf
clubhouse on 404 gross acres at the northeast
corner of Country Club Drive and Cook Street.
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Ms. Sass outlined the salient points of the staff report and
recommended approval .
Chairman Erwood opened the public testimony and asked if the
applicant wished to address the commission.
MR. MARK TEMPLE, 1010 Andreas Palms, Palm Springs, reviewed the
changes made to the previous plan.
Chairman Erwood asked if Mr. Temple agreed with the conditions on
page five. Mr. Temple replied yes. Chairman Erwood asked if anyone
present wished to speak in FAVOR of the project.
MR. DAVID CHRISTIAN, architect, noted that the site plan and
elevations had been redesigned and stated that they were
pleased with the results.
Commissioner Richards thanked the architect and developer and
informed them that if they found the marketing of the phases not
working correctly, that they have the opportunity to come back to
planning commission for a review of their decision to eliminate the
sixplexes.
MR. MIKE SMITH, 73-080 El Paseo, stated that they have worked
out the phasing of streets and property line wall , as well as
discussed drainage and retention. He was present to answer any
questions.
Chairman Erwood asked if anyone present wished to speak in OPPOSITION
to the proposed. There being no one, Chairman Erwood closed the
public testimony.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock,
adopting the findings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1251 , approving PP 87-26
and TT 22690, subject to conditions. Carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1252, recommending
approval of GPA 87-3 to city council . Carried 5-0.
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Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1253, recommending
approval of C/Z 87-7 to city council . Carried 5-0.
C. Continued Case No. PM 22885 - KARL BURETZ, Applicant
Request for approval of a parcel map that
subdivides the parcel into two lots.
Ms. Sass stated that the matter was continued from the last meeting
to allow staff to add public works conditions.
Chairman Erwood opened the public testimony and asked if the
applicant wished to address the commission.
MR. KARL BURETZ, 35815 Highway 74, Palm Desert, explained the
request and asked for any questions.
Chairman Erwood asked Mr. Buretz if he had reviewed the public works
conditions. Mr. Buretz replied that there were no problems.
Chairman Erwood asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposed. There being no one, the public testimony
was closed.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
adopting the findings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1254, approving PM 22885,
subject to conditions. Carried 5-0.
D. Contirmied Case No. C/Z 87-10 CITY OF PALM DESERT, Applicant
Request for approval of a negative declaration
of environmental impact and change of zone from
Hillside Planned Residential (HPR) to General
Commercial (C- 1 ) for the approximately 7000
square foot portion of APN 640-02-003 directly
adjacent to the west side of Highway 111, east
of the toe of slope and west of Parkview
Drive/Highway 111 .
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Mr. Diaz explained that the matter had been continued to allow
commission to review information on litigation. Staff recommended
approval .
Chairman Erwood opened the public testimony and asked if anyone
present wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposed.
There being no one, the public testimony was closed.
Commissioner Richards stated that his questions had been answered
and concurred with staff.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Ladlow,
adopting the findings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Ladlow,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1255, recommending
approval of C/Z 87-10 to city council . Carried 5-0.
E. Case Nos. GPA 87-4, C/Z 87-6, PP 87-28 - DAVID AND MARY
STOLTZMAN, Applicants
Request for approval of a general plan amendment and change of
zone from planned residential to office professional for
construction of a 40,000 square foot single story medical
office plaza at the northeast corner of Monterey Avenue and
Hovley Lane.
Mr. Diaz outlined the salient points of the staff report, noting
that the consultant was reluctant to add this type of change because
of adjoining property owners. He indicated that letters had been
received in opposition, as well as lists of Palm Desert residents in
favor and against the project.
Chairman Erwood opened the public testimony and asked the applicant
to address the commission.
MRS. MARY STOLTZMAN, 74-055 Highway 111 Palm Desert, described
the process of selecting the site and mitigation measures they
were willing to provide.
Chairman Erwood asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposed project.
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Mr. Diaz explained that the matter had been continued to allow �rrii
commission to review information on litigation. Staff recommended
approval .
Chairman Erwood opened the public testimony and asked if anyone
present wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposed.
There being no one, the public testimony was closed.
Commissioner Richards stated that his questions had been answered
and concurred with staff.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Ladlow,
adopting the findings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Ladlow,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1255, recommending
approval of C/Z 87-10 to city council . Carried 5-0.
E. `�� C/Z 87-6, PP 87-28 - DAVID AND MARY
f a general plan amendment and change of
asidential to office professional for
1,000 square foot single story medical
northeast corner of Monterey Avenue and
Hovley Lane.
Mr. Diaz outlined the salient points of the staff report, noting
that the consultant was reluctant to add this type of change because
of adjoining property owners. He indicated that letters had been
received in opposition, as well as lists of Palm Desert residents in
favor and against the project.
Chairman Erwood opened the public testimony and asked the applicant
to address the commission.
MRS. MARY STOLTZMAN, 74-055 Highway ill Palm Desert, described
the process of selecting the site and mitigation measures they
were willing to provide.
Chairman Erwood asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposed project.
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MR. MIKE SMITH, 73-080 El Paseo, engineer for the project,
stated that the site would be lowered as low as they could
and still have proper drainage and described landscaping and
medians to be provided.
MR. BEN DOBBINS, 3880 Lemon Street in Riverside, stated that he
was present to answer any questions regarding the traffic
report.
Commissioner Ladlow asked for and received clarification as to the
traffic count increase. Chairman Erwood noted that this project
would increase traffic four times higher than residential . Mr.
Dobbins concurred.
MR. BOB RICCIARDI , 45-275 Prickly Pear Lane, architect,
described the facility, the gates to be provided, employee
parking, and the hours of operation. He stated that sometimes
the planning commission has to make unpopular decisions for the
benefit of the whole, but felt that the percent of homeowners
were not overwhelmingly against the project. He asked that
commission keep an open mind.
MR. MARY MAGALOR, Chapparel , spoke in favor of the project
stating that the building would enhance the neighborhood, people
would not have to go to Eisenhower and try to park, and a
traffic light could be installed to direct traffic.
MR. JOE SWANK, 40-088 Siiktree in Sagewood, spoke in support of
the project and felt it would enhance the community.
MS. MOLLY SCHECTER, 40-127 Sagewood, stated that she had been a
resident six and a half years. She felt that if the development
were allowed to go in, there would be increased traffic during
the busiest time of the day, with too many cars already on the
road. She spoke against the location of employee cars and
expressed a desire to keep this a safe environment.
MR. CHARLIE SWEAT, 74-595 Peppergrass Lane, stated that it
would be hard to development as residential economically, and
would not work on a major arterial . He felt the proposed
project was appropriate and asked for approval .
MS. KATHY MOLLIVER, 40-128 Sagewood, stated that this is one of
the only residential developments in the area and expressed
concern regarding safety for neighborhood children and traffic
and felt the neighborhood should be kept like it is.
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MR. DENNIS JOHNSON, 40-471 Sagewood, Silktree Homeowners
Association President, stated testimony had been given for and
against the project and felt that the majority of the Sagewood
residents were against the project. He noted several items
brought up in the staff report and pointed out Rancho Mirage's
letter also was in opposition. He objected that Dr. and Mrs.
Stoltzman found it necessary for patients to sign the petition
in favor. He indicated that it looked like a nice facility, but
felt that this was the wrong location. He noted that the
Stoltzmans were against a development in Indian Wells, but they
want to build one here and indicated that their office is in
Palm Desert and their home in Indian Wells.
MR. DAVID MILLER, 40-056 Sagewood, speaking also for Grace
Doden and Wanda Downs, spoke in favor of the project, stating
that only good would come from this facility and it would
enhance the area and property value.
MRS. WENDY JONATHAN, directly behind the development, stated
that with this development present house prices would go down
and felt that it should not be in her backyard. She noted that
a lot of people are patients and a lot are not young family
people. She also expressed concern regarding traffic generated
by the project.
MS. DANA HOWARTH, 43-825 San Jacinto, stated that Palm Desert
High School is in her backyard. She indicated that she was in
favor of the project and does not like to drive to Eisenhower.
MS. CAMILLE TODD, Grapevine, felt that this would be a good
location for the project.
MR. JOE WASHMAN, 43-096 Manzanita Drive, felt that this was a
good location and that going to Eisenhower and looking for
parking was ridiculous.
MR. JOHN ROSS, Foundation of the Retarded Representative,
stated that they support the project.
MR. DON YOUNG, 44-309 Mill Court in Hidden Palms, spoke in favor
of the project. He noted that he has 1 i ved here 12 years and
wondered how traffic would be in another 12 years along
Monterey, Portola and Cook.
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�r■. MR. AND MRS. PHILLIP RAFF, owners of property for the last 35
years, spoke in favor of the project and felt that it was a
good facility for the community.
MS. KATY PORKRIN, employee of Dr. Stoltzman and a Palm Desert
resident, stated that the facility was needed and indicated
that she would have liked to have this type of facility in her
backyard.
MS. ROSE STARK 40-453 Sugarbush Court, stated that she was a
real estate appraiser and indicated that property values do go
down. She indicated that the real issue here is if the project
is suitable for this site.
MS. JOANNE SHACKLEFORD stated that commission should keep in
mind that it is a change of zone and indicated that she had
envisioned the whole area as residential . She questioned where
children would be able to ride their bikes with the increase in
traffic from the project.
MRS. JUDY YOUNG, 44-309 Mill Court in Hidden Palms, also spoke
in favor of the project.
MR. DAN JOHNSON, 40-488 Sagewood, spoke in opposition to the
project due to increased noise and traffic and noted that he
has two small children.
MR. BILL REICHER, 40-201 Sagewood, opposed the project and felt
it would be more appropriate somewhere else.
MR. DAVE GERMAIN, developer of Monterey Meadows, stated that
the property owners oppose this project 100%. He indicated
that he had tried to buy the corner to build single family
homes. He requested that commission not change the zone.
MS. PAT THRIFFY, 43-450 Desert Springs Drive, stated that when
she moved to Palm Desert there was nothing in sight and felt the
desert has grown. She spoke in favor of the project and felt
that it was in a good location.
MR. DAVID STARK, Sagewood, spoke in opposition to the project
and felt that the city should stick to the general plan and
zoning. He stated that he was not opposed to the construction
of the facility, only the location.
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MR. AND MRS. PACK, 40-480 Sagewood, directly behind the project,
spoke in opposition and felt that people would sign anything
that would not affect them. They felt a complete environmental
impact report should be done on the traffic, air pollution and
noise pollution.
MS. SARAH AUSTIN, 40-440 Perriwinkle Court, spoke in opposition
to the project and felt the zoning should remain the same. She
stated that just because there is such a traffic problem at
Eisenhower, the project and traffic should not be given to their
neighborhood, which mostly consists of young families.
MS. BRIDGET JOHNSON, 40-471 Sagewood, stated that the issue is
zoning. She indicated that the city had made a master plan as
to zoning and felt that it should not be changed.
Chairman Erwood asked if the applicant wished to address the commission.
MR. BOB RICCIARDI stated that the major issue against the
project is the traffic. He noted that Monterey is now the
major traffic street in Palm Desert for north sphere traffic
and that traffic would increase regardless. He suggested if
there was a problem with traffic diverting through Sagewood to
avoid the light, Sagewood should add an entry gate. He stated
that until the city puts Portola through to Interstate 10
traffic will increase. He also clarified that there would be no
pharmacy as part of the facility.
Chairman Erwood closed the public testimony. Chairman Erwood indicated
commission needed to decide if the project warranted a change of zone and
general plan amendment and felt that the project was not compatible
because it is totally surrounded by residential . Chairman Erwood felt
that the project would help increase traffic. He also indicated that the
city has adequate property available that would be suitable for
development.
Commissioner Richards complimented the applicant on the staff presentation
and the mitigating measures they were willing to implement in the R-1
zone. He indicated that he had never seen this great a need for a medical
center before and asked everyone to attend the meeting on September 22 for
the public hearing on the north sphere area. He felt there could be
property in that area that might be suitable for this type of development.
Commissioners Ladlow and Whitlock both concurred with comments by Chairman
Erwood and Commissioner Richards.
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Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
instructing staff to prepare a resolution of denial . Carried 5-0.
A TEN MINUTE RECESS WAS CALLED AT THIS POINT. THE TIME WAS 9:55 P.M.
F. Case Nos. CUP 87-11 AND TT 22794 - IRONWOOD ASSOCIATES,
Applicant
Request for approval of a conditional use permit
and tentative tract map to allow construction
and operation of a family golf center on 25.86
acres in the open space zone on the south side
of Hovley Lane, approximately 250 feet west of
Corporate Way.
Mr. Diaz explained that staff is requesting a continuance and noted
that the parks and recreation commission wished to review the
project, as well as noting that a general plan amendment application
is being required as part of the application, which would require
re-advertisement. He also stated that the applicant was requesting
the continuance, also.
Ms. Sass outlined the salient points of the staff report and
indicating a parking deficiency. She felt that basically the site
was suitable and acceptable for this use and noted that the general
Plan amendment would be necessary to change the open space
designation for private recreational use. Staff recommended
continuance to a date uncertain.
Upon questioning from Commissioner Richards, Ms. Sass clarified that
parcel no. 2 would be used as a golf center and the facility would
provide for pitching practice, 60 tees, and a driving range, focusing
on use by high school students. Ms. Sass also clarified for
Commissioner Whitlock that staff was recommending a complete lighting
study.
Chairman Erwood o ened the public testimony.
MR. ROGER LANGER, Portola Country Club, expressed concern
regarding lights shining into his home, walls for protection
against golf balls, and felt that the map should show exactly
where the project comes up to their property line.
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MR. WILLIAM KELLY, 74-676 Asurete, stated that he attended a
meeting a week ago and plans were also discussed to take the
property to the west and change the zone for residential . He
felt the applicant was trying to get approval on this change of
zone to facilitate a future change of zone. Mr. Kelly also
objected to the lateness in hearing" this item when it was known
that it would be continued.
Commissioner Downs stated that it was discussed at the beginning of
the meeting. Commissioner Richards also informed Mr. Kelly that
since a public hearing was advertised, planning commission is
obligated to take public testimony. Commissioner Richards also
reviewed the history of the parcel .
MR. RAY CULLIGAN, 42051 Sutters Mill Road, Portola Country
Club, stated that the sore points of the area are the ATC's and
dune buggies. He also expressed concern regarding the lights
and suggested the project be turned 90 degrees to allow lights
to face the commercial areas.
MR. CHARLES PEISER, 74-570 Zircon Circle, stated that it was
difficult to say if he was in favor or opposition and he
wondered how it was before the commission with no environmental
report. He also stated that the family golf center was going
to be open until midnight and expressed concern regarding the
lights and vandalism. He stated that they would like an
environmental impact report done; they did not know what a
family golf center was; and opposed them being open until 12:00
a.m.
MR. JORDAN HUGHES, 74-377 Zircon Circle East, informed
commission that in another area that allowed miniature golf,
people were bussed in at night and they gambled on the games.
MS. ROSE WACHTER, Zircon Circle West, stated that she works
with young people and was opposed because this is a potential
drug center and felt this should be rethought, or more
information provided.
MR. RICHARD DIRKMAN, 74-416 Zircon Circle, stated that there
are no places in Palm Desert where the public can play golf
unless they live in a private residence. He said the issues to
be decided are if there is a need, and will it be an asset. He
noted there were driving ranges at Suncrest and College of the
Desert. He objected that they would have the lights from the
College and this project coming from both directions.
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Chairman Erwood noted that more information will be available at a
future public hearing and staff was recommending a continuance. He
indicated that the applicant would be present at the future meeting.
Mr. Diaz stated that he strongly recommends that the applicant
meet with the Portola Country Club Homeowners Association to discuss
concerns on a one-on-one basis. He did not feel staff members needed
to attend.
Commissioner Downs stated that it would be the first public hearing
Item on the future agenda.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock,
continuing this item to a date uncertain. Carried 5-0.
G. Case No. ZOA 87-3 - CITY OF PALM DESERT, Applicant
Request for approval of an amendment to zoning
ordinance chapter 25.58.070 A & 8 to allow
special limitations in the residential zone.
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Mr. Diaz explained that the report was initiated by Code Compliance
and the gentleman was on vacation. He requested a continuance to
October 6.
Chairman Erwood opened the public testimony and asked if anyone
present wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the matter. There
was no one.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Richards,
continuing this matter to October 6, 1987. Carried 5-0.
ViIl. MISCELLANEOUS
None.
IX. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None.
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X. COMMENTS
Mr, Connor suggested that commission direct the city attorney's
off i ce to draft an amendment to the ordinance that i f a case has to
be re-noticed, the applicant should be billed for the cost.
Commission felt that it did not apply to this previous case and
staff noted that in some cases if there is any question, it was
better to re-notice.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock,
adjourning the meeting to September 22, 1987. Carried 5-0.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:48 p.m.
RAMON A. DIAZ, Secret
ATTEST:
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RICHARD ERWOOD, Chairman
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