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PALM DF��2T P'LANNING CJOI��SSIO�N MEErING
Zt7E5DAY - �ANUI�R�t 19, 1988
7:00 P.M. - CIVIC C�1I'F� OO�ICIL C��F�t
73-510 FftID WAR_u�G DRIVE
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NO STUDY SESSION WAS I�LD.
I. CALL TO ORDII2
Chairman Ery,�od called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
II. PLIDGE OF ALLDGI�E
Catmissioner Daar�s led in the pledge of allegiance.
III. ROLL (�LL
Members Present: Rick E�ti�od, (�airman
Bob DawrLs
Fa.ith Ladlaw
Jim Richards
Carol Whitlock
Me,�nUers Absent: None
Staff Present: Ray Diaz
r... Catherine Sass
' Dick Folkers
K3ndy Al1en .
Tonya Nbnr�oe
IV. APPROVAL OF MIN[lI'ES:
Consideration of the Januazy 5, 1988 meeting minutes.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Ladlaw, seconded by Caim.issioner Whitlock,
appraving the minutes as su?xnitted. Carried 4-0-1 (Commissioner
Daarls absta ined.). -
V. S�C�RY OF CJOUNCIL AGTI�I
Mr. Diaz outlined the salient points of the January 14 city council
meetirig.
VI. CXm]SIIVT CALII�IDAR
None.
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C�airman Erti�od indicated that it had been suggested that Public Hearing Item
#C be heard first. Caimission concurred.
VII. PUB�LIC I�
C. Case Nos. GPA 87-2, C/Z 87- AND PP 87-20 - ZRIAD PACIFIC
DEVELOPNIEIV'P, Applicant
Request tor appraval of a general plan amer�nent,
change of zone, precise plan of design and draft
environmental impact report to construct a
mixed-use office/residential project consisting
of 139,000 square feet of professional office
space and 224 apartments on 34 acres at the
rx�rtheast corner of Cook Stxeet and Havley Lane.
Ms. Sass outlined the salient points of the staff report and noted
that three letters in opposition had bee.n received. She indicated
that canrnuiity development condition #25 should be amended to
include a t�rie frame and public works oonditian #10 sYx�uld include
Havley Lane.
Catmissioner Whitlock asked for and received clarificatian regarding �
installation of inedians on Cook to Havley and signalization, as well
as whr� is responsible for payment. Ntr. Folkers indicated that the
signalization fees go into the general fund for the city, not
necessarily for the intersection at Hovley and Cook.
C�airman Er��-�od asked for and received clarification on the present
zoniuig and niunber of units allawed under the PR-5 zoning.
Chairman Erwood opened the public testimony and asked if the
applicant wished to address the catmission.
MR. C�-NCK STRO'I'f-IERR stated that he has been a valley resident
for 10 years and outlined the history of Triad Pacific
Develogne��t and the property. He infozmed cannission that he
started with the city to develop a viable pro�ect and has met
with the board of directors of the Lakes and with Vista del
Nbntanas. He outlined the design evolution that had taken
place fran concerns and described the final plan.
C7�airman Erti�od asked if anyr�ne present wished to speak in FAVOR to
the project.
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� Nff2S. LOIS MALL, 41-055 Largo in Palm Desert, stated that she
was the secretary to the board of directors at Vista del
Montanas. She indicated that the project was w�rthwhile,
hawever, she expressed concern for the change in density,
the two-story building height blocking the views, and r�ise frccn
recreational facilities.
' MS. PHYLLIS THCN�SON, representing the Marriott Corporation,
spoke in fawr of the project and stated that Chuck Strother
has been a good neighbor and did not see any negative icr�acts
on the area from the proposed. project.
C�airmari Ec��od asked if anyone present wished to speak in OPP(�ITIO�I
to the proj ect.
MR. EDWARD ET��II,, 336 Red River in the Lakes Country Club,
spoke again.st the change of zone. He stated that they bought
into the Lakes with the intent of having c�n�atible neighbors.
He expressed concern for the follawing: increased de.nsity in
residential neighborrr�od changes its acRiplexion; office rentals
with iuicontrolled access, because bur�glaries are a problem;
potential invasion of privacy and blocking of views; impact of
increased traffic on Cook and Countzy Club. Mr. Ethel indicated
�r that if commission feels this is a suitable project, then
suggested they consider views and privacy and limit the project
to one story, and install sane type of security barrier.
MR. PHIL FIDDERGREIN, 138 Running Springs in the Lakes Country
Club, stated that he was representirig 174 hcmeoaaners against
the charige of zone and general plan amencbnent. He indicated
that the averall txaffic study in the EIR has rbt b�en canpleted
and reviewed discussions that had taken place at the January 14
city council meeting regardirx� Sunterra, Avenue 42 and Havley
and felt that for this reason alone the matter should be
continued. He disagreed with the line of sight study also and
stated that ten days ago that he and Chuck Strother looked
south aver the perimeter wall and Mr. Strnther had agreed that
winc�aws w�uld be eye level fr�an 50 feet away. He felt that
south and west views wr�uld be lost. �He read a letter fran N�.
Dick Mendenhall to the Lakes board of directors outlining past
problems e,xperienced with rental units. He had the hr,�ieawners
present at the meeting stand in support of his cannents.
MR. WILLIAM REm, director of security at the Lakes CountYy
Club, requested continuance until further study could be made
of the security.
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Catmissianer Richards asked for suggestions by Mr. Reed as to what
kind of security measur�es he felt wauld be appropriate. N�. Reed
suggested scme type of perimeter fenc�ng arid olear�der growth as a
barrier, but felt that he hadn't had adequate t�me for an in-depth
study. He felt the sheriff's departrnent sl�o�ild have oarmerits.
Catnu.ssioner Richards stated that all projects are sent to the
sheriff's depart�nt for oam�e.nts. Ms. Sass read the oam�ents by
the sheriff's departrnent, which pertained to security within the
proj ect.
Commissioner Richards noted that Lieutenant Bowser was in the
audience and asked him to address the carmission with �nts. Lt.
Bawser stated that the Lakes is having problesns with security and
wall jt.unpers and did ryot recommend electronic security devices
(which tend to be expetlsive and is set off easily by birds and
animals) or barbed wire (for aesthetic reasons), but noted that
pyracantha pravides an excellent hedge and having neighbors pravides
extra security. Ca�missioner Richards thanked Lt. Bawser £or his
camients.
Chairman Er�n�od called a ten minute recess at this point. The time
was 8:21 p.m.
The meeting was reconvened and Chai�z E��n�od asked if the applicant �
wished address the cannission.
MR. STROTHER agreed with the planting of pyracantha and
suggested sat►e type of lightirig which could be worked out. He
noted that security for Ironu�od, Nbrningside and El Dorado
Country Clubs all pravide security fran within the project. He
;n�;cated that he would continue to w�ork with this issue. Mr.
Strother stated that in regard to the views and privacy issue,
he had photographs which stxxaed that rx�t one wir�daw in the
Lakes faced their property. He indicated that the Lakes
residents had to stand in their garages to face the proposed
project winc3aws and showed -photographs of the surrounding
property lines on Cook and Rtu�irx� Springs with the height of
trees.
Nfft. JOE KICAK, 41-555 Cook Street Suite 220, reviewed the line
of sight study for the proposed project. C7iairman EY��od asked
for clarification on the line of sight for the present zonirx�.
Mr. Strother also high-lighted points on the line of sight.
Mr. Strother indicated. that he w�uld provide obscured glass in
windaws facing the Lakes.
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MfZ. T.C. MORRIS, 75-220 Valencia in Palm Desert, stated that
Vista del Nbntanas board of directors had expressed concern
regarduzg line of sight and it was his understanding that this
project was not a real problem. He felt that it was a good
project and should be approved. Mrs. Mall addressed the
cannission and clarified her earlier crnments.
MS. DORA INGLESON, 41045 Largo, stated that she bought her
property eight years ago and indicated that the members of
Vista del Nbntanas were never poled and expressed opposition to
the project.
Chairman Er��od closed the public testimony and asked for c�me.nts.
Catmissioner Da�n�s felt that it was one of the best prepared projects
and 95g of the probl�ns had bee.n worked out before canirig before the
ccRmission. He noted that very few projects have cartpleted EIR's
and iridicated that he could rx�t vote against this ane.
Ca�missioner Richards felt that the security issue was a valid one,
but one that could be addressed and felt that the applicant had done
evezything he could to mitigate any problems. He spoke in favor of
the project.
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Chairman Erwood spoke in opposition and felt that the EIR was
biased, citing page IV 2Q where it states that it is apparent that
the density range for law density residential is rbt sufficient to�
pezmi.t the project to proceed, and therefore a change to high
density is required. Also on the last page of section VI 13
alternatives, the present zoning is stated to be the superior plan
and whe.n hr..x��ecx�mers bought property in the city they had a right to
rely an existi.ng zonirx� unless extenuatirig circiunstanr,es could be
proven to e.xist. Surrounding roads in sectian IV page 43 are not
designed for this project and block views as stated in section IV
page 109.
Commissioner Ladlaw agreed with Cnairman Erwood and Carmissioner
Richards that it was a good presentation, but was opposed to the
proj ect because of concerns with views and indicated that she w�uld
be in fawr of a continuance to allaa hrnieowners fx�cm the Lakes and
the applicant to wc�rk out problems.
Ccnmissioner Whitlock stated that at the beginnuig of the meeting
she was of the opinion that the density was too high, Yx7wever, after
listening to Mr. Strother and seeing the ptx�tographs and line of
sight views, rio windaas, and two story units being at least 250 feet
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away fran the closest Lakes resident changed her opinion. She felt
the office professional zoning was appropriate because the nature of
Cook Street, and therefore was in favor of the project for this site.
Camtission reviewed the conditions to be amended and added a
condition that on the second story, only opaque windaws would face
the Lakes Country Club.
Commission also addressed the issue of phasirig and Mr. Strother
;nr�i cated that if possible, the residential and oatmercial w�uld be
con.stxucted simultaneously and can be addressed at the council level.
Action:
Moved by Cannissioner Richards, seconded by Camtissianer Whitlock,
adQpting the findings as presented by staf f. Carried 3-2 (Clzainnan
�ti�od and Catmissioner Ladlaw wted no. )
Maved by Cannissioner Richards, seconded by Catmissioner Whitlock,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1272, recarmending
approval of the Draft IIzvironmental Impact Report #SC�i 87082409 to
city council. C.�ried 3-2 (C7iairman EY�x�od and Camiissioner Ladlaw
voted no. )
Nbved by Carmissioner Richards, seconded by CamLissioner Whitlock, `�
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1273, recommending
approval of GPA 87-2 to city council. Carried 3-2 (C�airman F��n�od
and Cannissioner Ladlaw voted no. )
Moved by Calmissioner Richards, seconded by Calmissioner Whitlock,
ac�bpting Plaruziux� Commission Resolution No. 1274, recommending
approval of C/Z 87-5 to city council. Carried 3-2 (C��airmari �ti�od
and Cannissioner Ladlaw wted no. )
Nbved by Camiissioner Richard.s, seconded by Camtissioner Whitlock,
adopting Planrii.ng Commission Resolution No. 1275, recommending
appraval to city council PP 87-20; subject to conditions as amP.nded.
Carried 3-2 (Cnaizman �tia�od and CaTmissioner Ladlaw vr�ted no. )
Nbved by Catmissioner Richards, seconded by Caimissioner Whitlock,
directing staff by minute motion to prepare a zoning ordinance
amendment to provide for limited ancillary uses in the office
professional zone. Carried 3-2. (C�lairman Er`aor�d and Caimissianer
Ladlaa voted no. )
Mr. Diaz rx�ted that residents wr�uld receive a legal r�otice of when the
hearing will go to the city council for hearing.
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JAN[7AFZY 19, 1988
� A. Coa�tinu�ed Discvssiori oai th�e North S�Y�ere Specific Plan and Draft
EYivir�[�ntal Inq�act FLeport - CITY OF PA�i DFSFRT, Applicant
Request for consideration of the North Sphere
Specific Plan and Draft Environmental Impact
Report for the area generally located south of
Interstate 10, west of Washington Street, r�rth
of 42nd and the Whitewater C�aruzel, and east of
Nbnterey Avenue.
Mr. Diaz pravided an update of the ca�mittees recamiendations and
reaannerided a continuance to February 16, 1988 to allaw staff to
address the changes and discuss with WRT the alterations.
Catmissioner Ladlaw asked for and received clarification on the
Havley Lane and E1 Doracb re-connection and Mr. Diaz also outlined
provisions of the open space requirements. C7iainnari Er��od felt that
more ballfields were needed, rr�t just open space. Mr. Diaz explained
that a recommendation was going to the city council for a
suboamiittee to be established to study recreational needs.
Chairman Erwood o�eried the public test�mony and asked if anyone
present wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITI0�1.
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MR. F.X. MAC�ONALD, 1900 E. Ocean Boulevard, expressed a need
for east/west roads to allaw travel between the cities. He
felt that the city needs to look to the future needs of the
valley and also felt that Hc�vley Lan�e was needed.
Caimissioner Richards stated that he has r�t seen a problem with
people tryi.ng to find east/west roads and did r�t feel that Havley
Lane was equipped to handle any traffic other t.han residential.
N�. MacDonald felt that the averall plan sY�ild be looked at and
circulation problems in the year 2000 considered.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded_ by Carmissioner Dawns,
continuu�g this matter to Februazy 16, 1988. Carried 5-0.
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B. Case No. PM 23221 - MARRIOTT'S DESF�T SPRII�GS DEV. CORP.,
Applicant
Request for approval of a subdivision of an
existirig 158.78 acre parcel into three par�cels
and well sites for developmerit of an appraved
precise plan.
Ms. Sass outlined the salient points of the staff report.
Cannissioner Ladlaw asked for and received clarification on the
ntunber of units allowed.
Chainnan Erwood opened the public testimony and asked if the
applicant wished to address the cannission.
NIl2. PAUL GILMORE, ASL Consultirlg Engineers, stated that he wa5
present to ans•wer any questions.
C7�airman ���od asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITI0�1 to the proposed. There being r�o one, the public testimony
was closed.
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Action: �
Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Camlissioner Whitlock,
' ar.�pting the firuiings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Cannissioner Whitlock,
adopting PlannirxJ Caimission Resolution No. 1276, appraving PM 23221,
subject to oonditions. Carried 5-0.
VIII. MI
A. ONE QUAIL PLAC;E �JAL RII�T/INCJCNIE REPORT.
Mr. Diaz indicated that staff we�uld prefer to �ust infonn c�Lissian
that a report was received and that it complies. Crnmissian
conctured, indicating that names shauld not be distributed in the
future.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Commissioner Ladlaw,
certifyi.rig canpliance with the affordable hau.sing program by minute
motion. Carried 5-0.
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IX. ORAL OQNN�IICATIO�VS
None.
X. OOI��NIS
CaYmissioner Dawn.s and Mr. Folkers clarified that funds for traffic
signals dr� not go into the general fund as previously stated, but
into a signalization fund.
XI. ADJOURI�II�NP
Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Ca►missioner Richards,
adjourning the meeting. Carried 5-0. The meeting was ad�o�nzed at
• 10:11 p.m.
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RIC��RD ERWOOD, Cfiairman
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