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PALM DESERT PLANNING, CCF IISSIC N MEETING,
TUESDAY, JULY 5, 1988
C1CtZFER13NCE ROCM
73-510 FRED i MUM DRIVE
NO STUDY SESSION WAS HELD.
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Erwood called the meeting to order at 6:59 p.m.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Co nnissioner Dawns led the Pledge of Allegiance.
III. ROLL CALL
Members present: Rick Erwood, Chairman
Bob Dawns
Faith Ladlow
Jim Richards (absent at roll call)
Carol Whitlock
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Ray Diaz
Kandy Allen
Phil Drell
Joe Gaugush
Phil Joy
Steve Smith
Ruthie Worthy
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Chairman Erwood advised the comussion that June 21 minutes are not
available for approval and suggested we move on to the consent
calendar.
V. OCNSENT CALENDAR
A. Case No. PMW 88-9 Neufeld, applicant
Property is located 618 feet north of Country Club Drive and
1,326.78 feet east of Cook Street. Request is to increase
parcel to 10 acres +/-.
B. Case No. TT 20024 Time Extension
Applicant is requesting a one-year time extension for an eight
lot subdivision in the Hillside Planned Residential zone west of
Palm Valley Channel and the Scmmerset Condominium development.
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Applicant is requesting minor lot line adjustments to coincide
with wall installations.
Chairman Erwood stated these items are normally considered routine
and asked if there were any comments from the members of the
commission regarding items on the consent calendar.
Action
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock,
approving consent calendar by minute motion.
Carried 3-0, with Chairman Erwood abstaining and Jim Richards absent
at the time the vote was taken.
VI. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. CONTINUED CASE NO. CUP 88-2 - SCHMITZ ENTERPRISES, INC.,
Applicant
Request for approval of a conditional use permit and development
agreement to construct a 17-unit senior citizens' apartment
project in the R-2, S. 0. zone, on the south side of Santa Rosa ..
Way, near San Pascual Avenue.
In the applicant's absence, Mr. Diaz recommended that this item
be moved to the foot of the calendar as the last public hearing
item.
B. CASE NO. PP 88-10, C/Z 88-2, CPA 88-2 - COSGROVE, HELL, WIISON
AND JENSEN TRUST, Applicant
Request for approval of a general plan amendment, zone change,
precise plan of design, and negative declaration of
environmental impact to allow construction of a 14,600 square
foot office structure at the southwest corner of San Luis Drive
and Fred Waring Drive, APN 640-121-010 through 014.
Phil Joy outlined the the staff report and reconnP.nded approval. He added
that the surrounding property owners have now came forward with a petition
to make }cram their concerns. In addition, the applicant's original plan
did not include greenbelt, and a later submitted plan does include one.
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r Chairman Erwood opened the public testimony and asked if the applicant
wished to address the commission.
MR. C:HARLES MARTIN, 72-715 Fred Waring Drive, addressed the
commission on behalf of the applicant. In dealing with setbacks and
traffic, we approached staff to have egress off Fred Waring Drive
since this would not come over a residential area. We have averaged
a 15-foot greenbelt so there is quite a bit of landscaping on San
Luis Drive. The architectural commission looked at the site plan and
had no negative comments about the site plan or the traffic. He
added he has seen the petition the residents brought forth, which
seems to involve three major issues: Property values, the view of
the back of the building, and traffic congestion. Mr. Martin
continued that residents have every right to appear at the
architectural commission and make their opinions heard. We will
observe a traffic situation in which the lot will fill up from around
8:30 a.m. until 5:30 or 6:00 O'clock but would be empty after that
time. As far as property values are concerned, the
properties would probably sell for more.
Chairman Erwood asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR of the
proposed.
RUSTY STILLMAN, 44-168 San Luis Drive, addressed the commission in
`r favor of the project. He stated that the residents are concerned
about one property in particular which is an eyesore and stinks up
the neighborhood. They are trying to beautify the neighborhood, but
this stops right next to a welfare house.
MIC HAEL C OSCROVE stated that the property owners can't get together
to address two basic issues: We are especially concerned about
traffic and noise, and Mr. Martin has done a pretty nice job of
addressing our concerns. He added they would have two weeks with the
recommendation of staff that the property be demolished before we get
the second reading, but I certainly would not want to put myself in
the position of tearing dawn
a home.
III4E:t L. SHETLER, one of the owners of the vacant lot on the
northwest corner. He thinks the whole block should be considered.,
not just that piece and added that he is not opposed to the project.
He sees some very nice things on Fred Waring, and he would like to
enjoy multiple zoning right next to commercial property
RICK 0OF?DER0 stated that he is in favor of the development on Fred
Waring Drive and would like to go on record as saying so.
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Chairman Erwood asked if anyone present wished to speak in CPPOSITICN to .w
the proposed.
GEORGE KRYDER, 75-813 Sonora, spoke in opposition to the proposal
stating that he has sincere objections to R-1 abutting a commercial
property, particularly when there is no buffer area between the two.
The plan proposes to place an entrance to the parking lot from a
commercial property to the street. The project intrudes well into a
residential area as well as the wall surrounding the parking lot.
The property shows no greenbelt which would reduce the brunt on the
neighborhood. Again, we have a property where the architect and the
developer have taken every advantage of every square foot. The
design of the building will result in many of the tenants leaving
their cars on Fred Waring Drive rather than in the parking lot.
Those questions have not been answered by Mr. Martin nor the staff.
I think we are entitled to know what changes are in the plan. Is
this philosophy going to carry through to all of the property down
Fred Waring Drive? I think we should consider that Fred Waring Drive
is a major entrance into Palm Desert. Are we going to allow this
entrance to be a tunnel to the philosophy of the planning commission?
GEORGE SMITH, 44-141 San Luis Drive, spoke in opposition to the
project stating in part that he wrote a letter to the commission
stating he was very concerned about some of the issues raised by Mr.
Kmyder. He added he is looking right at the back of the building;
there is no landscaping and the cars park on Fred Waring Drive as
well as Fair Haven. Mr. Smith added he is just worried about the
city taking little bits of residential property for commercial
purposes. He added that he gathers that the signatures support their
position against commercial zoning.
JUDY KORTS, 44-082 San Luis Drive, spoke in opposition to the
project. She said her living room window faces this building, which
blocks what little view there is, plus the noise. She added this is
a residential neighborhood and she wants to see it stay that way.
Ccmmmercial buildings would have to be lit up to deter vandals and she
feels the neighborhood youngsters would use it as a hang-out or
gathering place.
Mr. Martin stated that the R-1, which is the old house next to the
property, is actually 70 or 80 feet from the nearest property. In
terms of greenbelt, the architectural omission will be looking
closely at the landscaping. All the lighting in the parking lot is
low-density, perhaps 75 watt bulbs.
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�•• Commissioner Downs pointed out that the parking area should be in the
front rather than the rear of the building.
Commissioner Ladlow stated she shares Mr. Kryder's concerns and feels
very strongly about changing the general plan
Chairman Erwood said, anytime we are talking about a general plan
amendment, we must consider the impact on neighboring parcels. We are
looking at a building potentially 300 feet long and a minimum of 18 feet
high. The design of the parcel will decrease property values and have a
negative impact on public health, safety, and welfare. How much traffic
will be brought in by the building? One of the amendrients has to do with
whether it is consistent with adjacent land use. Based on those concerns,
I am not in favor of it.
Chairman Erwood closed the public testimony and asked if there are
additional comments from the commission.
Commissioner Richards pointed out the concept of green area or buffer
zone is not here. We have here a thorough intrusion on a residential
area. Commissioner Richards opposed on the basis of absence of
greenbelt. He added we have a little bit of both residential and
commercial. I don't find anything worthy about it at all and will
low move for its denial along with the rest of my commissioners.
Action
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock,
instructing the staff to prepare a resolution of denial. Carried 5-
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C. CASE NO. PM 23711, PP 88-8, AND VAR 88-1 - SUSAN CUSE, Applicant
A request for approval of a parcel map to allow a lot split, variance
to the zoning ordinance to allow the proposed lot split and the
subsequent construction of a single-family residence and a guest
house on property in the west hills area of Palm Desert, APN 628-130-
007.
Steve Smith outlined the salient points of the staff report. He pointed
out that although there may be exceptional circumstances, the only
exceptional feature of this lot are the graded pads which were done
without permits. Staff feels that the findings necessary to grant a
variance cannot be made and is, therefore, reco mnend.ing denial.
Chairman Erwood opened the public testimony and asked if the applicant
wished to address the commission.
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Addressing the commission on behalf of the applicant was the
engineer, MR. CHARLES HAVER, 74-390 Highway 111. Mr. Haver pointed
out that when Mrs. Case was considering the buying the lot, he met
with Mr. Diaz. He stated that the site was graded at the time the
house was built, and at that time it was probably legal. Mr. Haver
added there is some question as to whether we are consistent with the
ordinance.
In response to a question fran CnTnissioner Ladlow, Mr. Smith advised
that the existing 5-acre lot is proposed to have 4.5 acres split off
and leave the existing residence on a .5-acre site. Each 5-acre
parcel is assured by the Code of at least one unit.
Commissioner Richards said he wondered why we took this parcel into
the city in the first place. It is important for us to establish a
specific road standard for the roads that go into the area. Mr.
Haver stated that Option 3 states an ". . .average grade of 20$ or
less," and he felt they can meet that criteria.
Chairman Erwood clarified that he is in favor of a continuance
because we have not determined that it does not come within Option 3.
Mr. Haver asked that both the variance and the precise plan case be
continued. ri
Action
Moved by Cc mdssioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs, that
the case be continued to the July 19 meeting. Carried 5-0.
D. CASE N0S. GPA 88-1, C/Z 88-4, PP 88-9, PM 23770 - LEVI H. LOW,
Applicant
Request for approval of a negative declaration of environmental
impact and an amendment to the Palma Village Specific Plan, change of
zone from R-3 (high density residential ) to O.P. (office
professional) and a precise plan for a 24,000 square foot medical
building to be located at the southeast corner of Fred Waring Drive
and San Pablo Avenue.
Phil Drell sunnarized the staff report. The project consists of one two-
story building fronting on Fred Waring Drive with parking off of Santa
Rosa Way. Commissioner Ladlow inquired as to the nature of the adjacent
uses. Mr. Drell responded that to the south there is a two-story
apartment ccoplex, and to the east are one-story apartments.
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Chairman Erwood opened the public testimony and asked if the applicant
wished to address the com fission.
LEROY N1ILLER, architect for the applicant, addressed the comdssion
stating that the proposed medical use is consistent with the plan.
Commissioner Ladlow asked about the color rendering; specifically, is
the building going to be blue and red? Mr. Miller clarified that the
use of colors, namely tan and rose, are used for sun screens and
blue accents and some red accents. Commissioner Ladlow clarified
that the design is very high tech. Mr. Miller stated that the
architectural commission did not go into the very fine detail until
it was determined whether or not a building of this kind can be
built. He added that the color scheme still has to be submitted to
the architectural oo mnission.
Commissioner Whitlock stated that the color blue usually projects
this image and suggested that he not use this color. Commissioner
Richards stated that the project looks good and added that the fact
that it is a bit different is a compliment. Commissioner Whitlock
said she likes the project also, especially since no residents in the
community object to it. Chairman Erwood also agreed he likes the
color scheme.
r... Chairman Erwood asked if anyone present wished to speak in opposition to
the proposed. There being no response, the public hearing was declared
closed.
Action
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock,
adopting findings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1295, recommending
approval of GPA 88-1, C/Z 88-4, PP 88-9, PM 23770.
E. CASE NO. PP 86-22, DA 86-5 AMEMX 1 1M, USA FAIRF IELD REALTY FUND,
Applicant
Request for approval of a negative declaration of environmental
impact and amendments to a precise plan and development agreement
modifying the site plan, elevations, and increasing the unit total i
from 113 to 150 for a senior citizens apartment project on 7.5 acres
located on the south side of Country Club Drive, 1,600 feet east of
Monterey Avenue.
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Phil Drell summarized the staff report and noted that the original plan
was to be one and two-bedroom units with 25$ affordable units. By
decreasing the size of units from one and two-bedrooms to studios and one-
bedrooms, the developer has managed to have all units in one-story, as
opposed to two-story, and increased the number of affordable units by 10.
There will be an emergency access as required by the fire marrahall. The
conclusion was that the site plan is superior to the original. Staff
recommends approval.
Chairman E wood opened public testimony and asked if the applicant wished
to address the cannission.
Steve Gall of USA Realty Fund expressed agreement with the staff
report and conditions of approval.
Chairman Erwood asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR of or OPPOSITION
to the proposed.
Commissioner Whitlock asked haw many swimming pools are included in
the project. On learning there is only one pool, she, Commissioner
Ladlow, and Commissioner Richards insisted that the number of pools
be increased to a total of three. Commissioner Ladlow added that
swimming pools are often used for therapeutic purposes and, following
discussion, it was agreed that the number of pools should be mandated
as Condition No. 11.
MR. DAVE STILU4AN, Society for the Retarded, said he welcomes the
project and supports it entirely.
Chairman Erwood closed the public testimony and asked if there was further
comment from the commission.
Action
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
adopting the findings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Ladlow,
adopting Planning Cb nnission Resolution 1296, recommending to the
city council approval of PP 86-22 and DA 86-5 Amendments, providing
that Condition No. 11 be added indicating that the total number of
swimming pools in the project be increased to three. CARRIED 5-0.
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r.. F. CASE NO. ZOA 88-3 - CITY OF PALM DESERT, Applicant
An amendment to Palm Desert Zoning Ordinance, Section 25.56.190 D,
relating to height, location, and materials for fences.
Phil Drell summarized the staff report.
Chairman Erwood opened the public testimony and asked if anyone present
wished to speak in FAVOR of or OPPOSITION to the proposed.
Commissioner Richards said he does not think we should have
ordinances at all; if there must be, let the city council decide.
Chairman Erwood closed public testimony.
Action
Moved by Camnissioner Richards, seconded by Chairman Erwood that this
item be passed on to the city council with "No comment. "
Commissioners Downs and Whitlock opposed.
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock,
adopting the findings as presented by staff.
Carried 3-2.
NOW Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, Seconded by Camtissioner Downs,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1297, recommending to
city council adoption of ZOA 88-3. CARRIED 3-2.
G. CASE NO. CUP 88-3 - CITY OF PAIM DESERT (Desert Cities Baptist
Church), applicant
Request for approval of a negative declaration of environmental
impact and a conditional use permit to allow the operation of a
church facility on 2.47 acres +/- located west of the Palm Valley
Channel just southerly of the projection of Green Way. The parcel is
presently owned by the Coachella Valley Parks and Recreation District
and is referred to as the Palm Desert Community Center.
Mr. Diaz presented the staff report stating in part that this is the
culmination of a series of exchange agreements whereby Desert Cities
Baptist Church would be using the Palm Desert Community Center. A
conditional use permit is before you today. We believe the requirements
for this conditional use permit are met. The access utilized by residents
through the lot will continue but not in the same configuration as before.
Presently, these properties receive access directly through the lot of the
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ccnrunity center. Access would be provided by the city; there are no
residents on the property. The facility is owned by the Coachella Valley
Parks and Recreational District. One concern that was brought up on the
part of the Parks and Recreation Cbn nission is what happens between the
time this facility is changed and that facility is built. I do not have
an exact period of time; perhaps it would be a year before we would have
a cccmnanity center. Staff reccnuends approval, subject to conditions.
In response to Chairman Ervood's question, Mr. Diaz clarified that the
tennis courts would still be open to the public. Cammissioner Ladlow
clarified that the church is relocating from property it is currently
renting on Highway 111. Cam issioner Richards stated that the cammu ity
center is not heavily used because the amount of activities held there are
not that great. Mr. Diaz clarified that the Coachella Valley Parks and
Recreation Ccen fission does rent the facility out to another group.
Chairman E rwood opened public testimony and asked if anyone present wished
to speak in FAVOR of or OPPOSITION to the proposed.
NCR. DEL GAGNON, 73-612 Highway 111, expressed a willingness to have
the church utilize the facility and asked whether or not this would
involve a lease with the city. Mr. Diaz clarified that at no time
will the facility be in the city's hands. The church will have this
property, will own it lock, stock, and barrel; the Coachella Valley moo
will receive sane 15,000 square feet of the civic center property.
Mr. Diaz clarified that we should restrict ourselves to the
conditional use permit regardless to who owns the land.
Mr. Gaugush, of the Engineering Department, explained the easements
which would be granted property owners allowing them to retain use so
that each of the three or four property owners would be mentioned by
name. The issue arose as to who will maintain it; Mr. Gaugush
clarified that this is the work of the redevelopment agency.
Commissioner Richards stated that the city is going to request the
easements. Mr. Diaz clarified that there has not been an access
through parks and recreation property. It is not known whether or not
there will be brief access which will became a private easement which
the users would be required to maintain.
Chairman Erwcod stated that we should take a look at the parking lot.
If we do not have a legal easement, they will now give you one,
which means no one can build a wall around it and say you can no
longer use it. The residents state they have aerial photos showing
easements giving access to this property. Mr. Diaz clarified that
they are attempting to relocate the easement, but all users would be
required to maintain it. Commissioner Richards asked the city
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low attorney to clarify what the legal position is. Kandy Allen later
clarified that, based on her findings, the church could come in as
new owner and build a wall round the lot so that residents would not
have access. The minister clarified that when the church service
is in process, we do not relish the thought of people going through
there.
MR. WrryAM FROST stated that the church plans to make some very
positive changes to the building, do some landscaping, and remodel
it to make it look nice, and we believe the people will appreciate
it. Mr. Frost added he supports Mr. Del Gagnon's position in
welcoming the church's use but added that the church is getting a
conditional use permit with unlimited use. The easement is in the
shortest distance between two points. The objection was that we
would establish a permanent easement through the parking lot and he
would like the commission to continue that. If a road is going to be
built and maintained, it would be through the most direct route. The
community center is built right on the property line. Mr. Frost
stated he would like to see some sort of territorial design as to
where the city and parks and recreation district are going with this
piece of property. He continued that he would like to have revised
the original easements. There was some talk of a graded road; can all
of that be included in the next discussion?
Mr. Diaz recommended that the case be continued for a period of two
weeks to allow time to consider a matter which he thought was already
resolved.
Action
Moved by Ccainissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Richards,
continuing this case to July 19. Carried 5-0.
A. CoNrINUED CASE NO. CUP 88-2 - SC MITZ ENTERPRISES, INC., Applicant
This item was moved to the foot of the calendar as the last public
hearing item at Mr. Diaz's request.
Mr. Diaz informed the commission that this matter was continued to
allow the applicant time to redesign the
project and discussed the salient points of redesign. He added that
the new design of the project is far superior to the one on the
bottom.
Chairman Erwood opened the public hearing and asked if the applicant
wished to address the commission.
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MR. HARRY SCHMITZ, the applicant, addressed the oammission citing a
number of revisions in the project. He added there are some trade-
offs involved, and he can live with them. There were some concerns
about police protection, etc., which were resolved.
Commissioner Richards stated he does like this design much better,
and this was a considerable improvement.
Cairman Erwcod asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR of or
OPPOSITION to the proposed. There was no response, and the public hearing
was closed.
Action
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock,
adopting the findings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by Comissioner Richards,
adapting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1298, approving CUP 88-2,
subject to conditions. Carried 5-0.
VII. ORAL CCNMJNICATIC NS
A. Any person wishing to discuss any item not otherwise on the
agenda may address the commission at this point by stepping to
the lectern and giving his/her name and address for the record.
Remarks shall be limited to a maximmun of five minutes unless
additional time is authorized by the commission.
Cam issioner Richards stated that we are starting to develop a
portfolio of subsidized housing and he is proposing here that
we have some way to make published information available to the
public.
Palms to Pines Estates: Commissioner Richards stated he would
like staff to review the road condition which is one way east.
The road is wide enough to go both ways, so why not make it two-
way? Mr. Gaugush stated that we have been in negotiations with
the property owners, and he feels we are almost at a point of
making the desired improvements.
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VIII. ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Downs,
adjourning the meeting. Carried 5-0. The meeting was adjourned at
10:45 p.m.
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RAMON A. DIAZ, Sec et
ATTEST:
RICHARD WOOD, Chairman
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