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HomeMy WebLinkAbout0816 MINUTES PALM DESERT PLANNING CCF ILSSICN MEETIl4G TUESDAY - AUGUST 16, 1980 7:00 P.M. - CIVIC CENTER CIOUNCIL CHAMBER 73-510 FRED WARIIW7 DRIVE A ONE HOUR STUDY SESSION WAS HELD PRIOR TO THE MEETING, BEGINNING AT 6:00 P.M. IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE CONFERENCE ROOM. I. CALL TO ORDER Chairman Rrwood, called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. after a one hour study session. II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE Commissioner Ladlow led in the pledge of allegiance. III. ROLL CALL Members Present: Rick Erwood, Chairman Faith Ladlow Carol Whitlock Jim Richards Members Absent: Bob Downs Staff Present: Ramon Diaz Phil Joy Catherine Sass Steve Smith Gregg Holtz Frankie Riddle Kandy Allen IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Request for approval of the June 21, July 5, and July 19, 1988, meeting minutes. Action: It was moved by Cb mmissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock to approve the June 21, 1988, with amendments, July 5, and July 19, 1988, as submitted. Carried 4-0. June 21, 1988, amendments were: Page 1 - should read Members Absent; Page 10 - should read City Manager Bruce Altman and Gerald Hundt General Director of Family Y of the Desert; Page 11 - paragraph 4 was modified and paragraph 5 was deleted; Page 12 - should read Recreation & Parks District; Page 14 - paragraph 2 was modified. VAM MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION AUGUST 16, 1988 V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION Mr. Diaz informed commission that the representative from the Marriott indicated that their problems had been resolved on the Berkey Project, Case No. C/Z 87-13, and the concerns of the Portola Country Club residence can be worked out in the design process. This case will go back for its second reading before the city council for consideration on the development agreement and change of zone on plan 2. Other cases approved were: Case No. C/Z 88-3, amendments to the Palm Desert Zoning Ordinance relating to fences; Two senior projects Case No. PP/CUP 86-22, USA/Fairfield Realty LTD, and Case No. CUP 88-2, Schmitz Enterprises, Inc. VI. CONSENT CALENDAR A. Case No. TT 18986 - C AHUI LLA HrLLs AREA - FRMERICK C. WI IITMAN, Applicant Request for an additional one-month time extension of Tentative Tract Map 18986 to allow for completion of planchecking on the second phase of development. Commissioner Richards does not wish to have this case considered again. He encouraged staff not to recommend these types of cases to commission in the future. Action: Moved by Comdssioner Richards, seconded by CcRudssioner Whitlock, approving the consent calendar by minute motion. Carried 4-0. VII. PUBLIC HEARINGS A. Case No. PP 88-11 - CTI'RA III, LTD., Applicant Approval of precise plan of design and negative declaration of environmental impact to construct a seventeen unit apartment project at the northeast corner of Abronia Trail and Sunset Lane. Ms. Sass outlined the salient points of the staff report. She indicated that this project would be surrounded on three sides by other apartment complexes, the interior parking area will be shaded and all spaces are to be covered, a wood and block wall exists on 2 MINUTES PLANNING CU 4ISSICN AUGUST 16, 1988 the east property line, which staff is recotme� be upgraded to all block. Commissioner Ladlow asked what the rear setbacks would be without the street vacation. The rear setbacks would be 10 feet without the street vacation. Chairman Erwood opened the public testimony and asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposed. MR. STEVE SULLIVAN, Architect on the project, indicated that he did not want to discuss the street vacation until it was considered by council. The vacation of Sunset Lane is to be used to increase the number of apartment units and provide access into the complex and the neighboring complex. The managers unit will be the only unit facing the neighboring complex. He suggested that the sidewalk on Abronia be deleted and that condition 7 under Community Development should be the east property line. Commissioner Richards asked the size of the spa. The size of the spa is approximately 10 feet. low Commissioner Richards was against the street vacation. He did not feel that public streets should be given away for private use. Mr. Diaz indicated that consideration of the street vacation was going before city council in September under a separate hearing from the precise plan. MS. NORMA PETERSON, 74-402 ABRONIA TRAIL, spoke in opposition of the street vacation. Chairman Erwood closed the public testimony. Commissioner Richards felt that this case should be denied. His concerns were the request for deletion of the sidewalk on Abronia, street vacation of Sunset Lane and lack of swimming pool. Mr. Diaz suggested that the commission direct staff to have street vacations reviewed and approved by city council prior to submittal to planning commission. Action: Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Ladlow, directing staff to prepare a resolution of denial for adoption at the next meeting. Notion carried 4-0. 3 low MINUTES PLANNING CXkMSSICN ALIGUST 16, 1988 Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock, approving by minute motion, directing staff that as a matter of planning commission policy, they not submit precise plans until and unless street vacations have been reviewed and approved by city council. Motion carried 4-0. B. Case No. PP 87-23 AME<EMWr 1 - ARC-ID CORP. C/O BILL O'KEEFE, Applicant An amendment to a precise plan to allow construction of a two-story 39,250 square foot office building with access to Hovley Lane and a negative declaration of environmental impact - located southeast of Hovley and Cook. Mr. Phil Joy gave an overview of the staff report and project. He indicated that this project is compatible with the existing development on the south side of the property. The proposed Hovley Lane access would solve the access problem for north bound motorists on Cook Street, by providing a second access into the park, and ample parking of which 52 spaces will be covered. Commissioner Richards was concerned that this type of project is u,rr being proposed in the designated industrial area. Zoned industrial parcels are designated to certain areas of the city, whereas, zoned office building parcels not. He felt that this area should be restricted to industrial projects. He asked the difference between an industrial building and an office building. Mr. Joy indicated that an industrial building needs half the parking spaces as an office building, and that both buildings need inspections performed, by the building department, prior to any use for ventilation, etc. Commissioners Erwood and Ladlow were in general agreement with Commissioner Richards on zoned office buildings being everywhere, but zoned industrial is not. Mr. Diaz commented that other projects other than industrial have been proposed in this area, but they were not less desireable. He indicated that the zoning ordinance could be changed to restrict proposed projects in the industrial area to industrial facilities. Commissioner Richards did not feel that the zoning ordinance needed to be changed. 4 mod MINUTES PLANNING CCn4ISSION AUGUST 16, 1988 Mr. Joy informed cc mnission that office buildings were already built on two other corners and this would be the third, making it a unique parcel. Chairman Erwood opened the public testimony and asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposed. MR. BILL O'KEEFE, Architect on the project, indicated that the second floor corridor will have 90% coverage and restrooms. There will be lots of landscaping and handicapped parking will be provided. He indicated that lots 1,2,3,4,5 and 27 has an over-lay specifically for office building. Chairman Erwood closed public testimony. Commissioner Richards felt that the parcels bordering Cook Street could get a zone change, but not the parcels that front onto Cook Street. Mr. Diaz suggested that this item cane back to commission at its next meeting for study session to discuss the projects status. Commissioner Ladlow asked that information on how much land is left in this area for development be presented at the next study session meeting. Commissioner Whitlock felt that having two corners that already have office buildings on them and building an industrial project on the southeast corner of Howley and Cook might not be the best approach. She felt that having another office building would be more compatible with the existing developments. Chairman Erwood indicated that he liked the plans, but was concerned that it was being proposed in the industrial area. Action: Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock, adopting the findings as presented by staff. Notion carried 3-1 (Commissioner Ladlow opposed). Moved by Ccmmmissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1304, approving PP 87-23 AMENDMENT 1. Motion carried 3-1 (Commissioner Ladlow opposed). 5 �ftw MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION AUGUST 16, 1988 C. Case No. PP 86-38 (R F=) - STUARTEvEY, Applicant Approval for a precise plan for a four-plex rental apartment rental apartment project within the R-3, 13,000 (3) zone at 73-575 Shadow Mountain Drive. Mr. Diaz outlined the staff report and aspects of the project. A plan was shown with the changes from the original plan. Ccaanissioner Ladlow asked if these apartments were the same as the apartments down the street from this project. Mr. Diaz stated that these apartments are better than the others. There will be two car garages and opened parking areas on both sides of the complex. Chairman Erwood opened the public testimony and asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposed. Mr. Diaz informed the cc mLission that the applicant could not make tonight meetings. Chairman Erwood closed the public testimony. Action: Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by Commissioner Ladlow, adopting the findings as presented by staff. Motion carried 4-0. Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by Commissioner Ladlow, adopting Planning Cmuission Resolution No. 1305, approving PP 86-38 (REFILE). Motion carried 4-0. D. Case No. TT 23681 - CHAZAN DEVELOPMWr COMPANY AND J.F. DAVIDSON ASSOCIATES, INC., Applicants Approval of a tentative tract map subdividing 11.2 acres into 36 ten thousand square foot single family dwelling lots on the south side of Skyward Way, west of proposed Arrow Trail and north of the Monterra Development. Mir. Smith informed the commission that the staff report had originally been prepared for the August 2, 1988, planning commission meeting, and since that time letters have been received by residents (Walter Auberger, Carla Dickerson, Curt Dunham, Dr. Farrell and Bonnie Blass and a petition signed by 22 residents north of the 6 MINUTES PLAT NDU OOMMISSION AUGUST 16, 1988 subject property) voicingtheir concerns on the proposed project. Some of the concerns were lot elevations, density and street extensions. Due to the receipt of these letters and their concerns, staff is not prepared to recommend approval at this time. Mr. Smith outlined the salient points of the staff report. The 36 lots meet zoning requirements, which is R-1 - 10,000, and the proposed dwellings will need to be a minimum of 1,250 square feet. Other items for consideration are the street extensions of Bel Air Road east and Chia Road south to connect with Arrow Trail; addition of a new street to run along the south side of the development westerly from Chia Road/Arrow Trail, which will dead-end in the front portion of lot 36 at the westerly end of the property and where an "off-set knuckle" is proposed on a temporary easement. Commissioner Richards did not understand why the lots sizes were smaller when the market is demanding larger places. He asked if amenities were being proposed. No amenities are being proposed. Ccnudssioner Ladlow asked who set the 1,250 square foot minimum on the dwelling units size. The 1,250 square foot minimum was set by the zoning ordinance. . . Mr. Diaz noted that the pads do not have to drain to the streets. Chairman Erwood opened the public testimony and asked if the applicant wished to address the commission. MR. MIKE SMITH, of J.F. Davidson Associates, indicated that the extension of Chia Road to Arrow Trail could be deleted. He felt that the size of a lot does not determine how good a project will be, and he does not feel that a second access is needed. MR. CHAZAN, of Chazan Development, explained that the lots were in excess of 11,000 square feet, over the zoned 10,000 square feet. The lots will be sold on an individual basis and the CC&R's will be done by developer. He feels that the difference between a good project and a bad one is the architecture, not the size of the lot. He would be willing to raise the size of the homes to 1,800 - 2,000 square feet and delete the extension of Chia Road to Arrow Trail. Commissioner Richards was concerned about the fire marshal's condition on the second access (Barberry Lane). He did not know if they would be willing to accept the deletion of the second access. 7 MINUTES PLANNING O0KItSSION AUGUST 16, 1988 r.r Mr. Holtz indicated that there would probably be no problem with the public works department on this issue. Chairman Erwood opened the public testimony and asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposed. MR. CURT DUNHAM, Developer of the Monterra Project, was opposed to the proposed height of the southerly portion of the site, which would block the view of score of the lots on his project. He requested that consideration be given to lowering this part of the site as he was required to do. MR. RICK LOPEZ, 73-352 Buckboard Trail, representative for the Silver Spur Ranch Association, which is opposed to the extension of Chia Road to Arrow Trail. They are not opposed to the project itself, as long as it is in keeping with the Monterra Project, but they are against no amenities, fencing, landscaping, etc. being proposed and the selling of individual lots. They do not feel that there will be harmony in the project itself if it is constructed on an individual basis. A petition signed by 24 Silver Spur Ranch residents opposing the extension of Chia Road to Arrow Trail was submitted to the commission. M. MURRAY TAYLOR, 73-210 Scmera MR. LANDAU, General Council Rep. for Dr. Farrell, Skyward Way MR. AND MRS. BUCHOLZ, 73-064 Skyward Way MR. RANDAL WHITE, 73-186 Scmera DR. HAROLD BYRD, Sun Corral Trail, Rep. for Dr. Eugene Kay MS. WANDA TUCKER, 73-309 Buckboard Trail and all of the above mentioned people voiced their concerns against the proposed project which were: Density per lot size decreasing property values, the lot elevations blocking views, extension of Chia Road to Arrow Trail and/or Homestead causing traffic and safety problems and having Chia Road dead-end at Skyward Way causing parking, traffic and safety problems. The commission was asked to continue this case for a few months time, so that residents that are out-of-town during the summer months could be present. Mr. Diaz indicated that the extension of Chia Road through to Haystack Road is a condition of approval under the public works department no. 15. 8 .we MINUTES PLANNIM COMMISSION AUGUST 16, 1988 MR. RICK LOPEZ, stated that the Silver Spur Ranch residents did not receive the notice on this project, and he would like to receive future notices. Mr. Diaz informed Mr. Lopez that he could receive the planning commission agendas by sending self-addressed stamped envelopes to city hall, community development department. Also, notices are required to be mailed by state law to all residents within 300 feet of a project within a certain period of time. MS. MARLENE McCLEIWM, 72-730 Ironwood, was in favor of the proposed project. She felt that Palm Desert needed more R-1 lots. Chairman Erwood closed the public testimony. It was asked if provisions were made in the staff report for undergrounding work. Provisions were made under the conditions of approval by the public works department. The developer will also have to pay park fees. Commissioner Richards did not feel that the case needed to be continued until more residents could be present. He felt that the concerns the other residents would list would not be different from concerns voiced tonight. Commissioner Richards indicated that as a condition of approval the dwelling unit size could be increased to approximately 2,500 square feet. He did not feel that the size of the lots would decrease the neighboring properties property value. Commissioner Ladlow agreed. Mr. Diaz suggested that the applicant be asked if he would like a continuation to consider some of the concerns that were voiced on the project. He indicated that the applicant could prepare plans that show 2,500 square feet hone on 11,000 square foot lots. Chairman Erwood asked the applicant if he would like a continuation. The applicant agreed as long as it was not postponed to long. Commissioner Richards suggested that Mr. Chazan meet with the residents on this project, and discuss what is being proposed and show plans that outline the project. Action: Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Ladlow, to continue this case until the September 20, 1988, meeting. Motion carried 4-0. 9 MINUr S PLANK D G CICN4ESSIC N AUGUST 16, 1988 VIII. MISCELI ANBOUS A. Case No. CXJP 88-4 - CORLES C. KIRKPATRICK, Applicant A request for approval of a conditional use permit to establish a family billiards parlor at 76-200 Painters Path, APN 640-020-019 - Charles C. Kirkpatrick. Mr. Diaz informed commission that on the third whereas in the resolution the word denial should be charred to approval. Action: Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Commissioner Whitlock, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1306, approving CUP 88-4. Motion carried 4-0. IX. ORAL OCD14MC ATIONS Ms. Margie Hartman, 48-624 Moon Terrace, addressed the conuLission concerning the project on Highway 74 putting a break in the berm and raising the pad. She indicated that by making these changes she now has to look at the pad foundation instead of the chimney. �. Chairman Erwood informed Ms. Hartman that the commission had been discussing this matter earlier. He asked staff what the elevation were on this pad. Mr. Holtz informed cammission that he was not familiar with this project, but that he would look into the matter for the co mission and Ms. Hartman. X. OCIMENPS XI. ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 10:00 p.m. ATTES RAMON A. DIAZ, Sec et JIM S, Vice Chairman /fr %r 10