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PALM DESERT PLANNING, CXI44LSSICN MEETING,
TUESDAY — JUNE 20, 1989
7:00 P.M. — CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
73-510 FRED WARIING DRIVE
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I. CALL TO ORDER
Acting Chairperson Whitlock called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
II. PLEDGE OF ALT '7IANCE
Commissioner Jonathan led in the pledge of allegiance.
III. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Carol Whitlock, Acting Chairperson
Bob Downs i
Sabby Jonathan
Members Absent: Rick Erwood, Chairperson
Jim Richards, Vice Chairperson
Staff Present: Ray Diaz
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Kandy Allen
Gregg Holtz i
Phil Drell
Catherine Sass
Phil Joy
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IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
No minutes were submitted for approval.
VI. SLAY OF COUNCIL ACTICN
Mr. Diaz summarized pertinent city council actions from the meeting 7.
of June 8, 1989.
VII. CONSENT CALENDAR
None.
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VIII. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Clontirntied Case Na. ZOA 89-1 - CITY OF PALM DESERT, Applicant
Request for approval of amendments to the sign
ordinance, Section 68, as it applies to signs and
awnings.
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Mr. Diaz explained that the Chamber of Catmerce was requesting a
continuance of this item to July 5, 1989. C cmTdssicn coned.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Ccnrdssicner Jonathan,
continuing ZOA 89-1 to July 5, 1989. Carried 3-0.
B. Continued Case No. CUP 89-3 - CABLE & RYLEE, Applicant
Request for approval to construct a 13 unit f
senior apartment project and on the southeast
corner of Catalina Way and San Carlos.
Ms. Sass outlined the salient points of the staff report and
recommended approval.
Acting Chairperson Whitlock e�ned the public testimony and asked if
the applicant wished to address the ccmnissicn.
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MR. WENDELL RYLEE agreed with the staff report and discussed the
proj ect's impact on the adjoining house, which had a big back
yard and a swimming pool, but had not talked to them about this
project. Mr. Rylee also noted that there was a wood fence there ..ii
now, which would be replaced with a block wall. f
Acting Chairperson Whitlock asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR
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or OPPOSITION to the proposed project.
MR. CRAIG ZUNDEL, San Pascual resident, stated that he was
present two weeks ago when it was continued and he understood
that those present could meet with staff to discuss this project
and that was not done. He indicated that another resident would
be cut off at about the half-way point who doesn't have a
swimming pool, but does have the same amount of ground. He
requested that the residents be allowed to meet with staff i
before approval was given and noted that his concerns had to do
with 10 or 20 foot setbacks and landscaping.
Mr. Rylee agreed to a continuance and stated that he would like to
meet with staff and the residents. f .
Acting Chairperson Whitlock closed the public testimony and asked for
commission convents.
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`.. Camtissioner Dawns stated that he would be in favor of a continuance
of two weeks.
Acting Chairperson Whitlock reopened the public hearing and asked for
a motion.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Cam►issioner Jonathan,
continuing CUP 89-3 to July 5, 1989. Carried 3-0.
Mr. Diaz requested Mr. Zundel's phone number. Mr. Zundel indicated
that he would contact his neighbors when the meeting was set.
C. Contirnxed Case Nos. C/Z 89-6 arxd PP 89-6 Amendment 2 - DAVE
MV40OKLAN, Applicant
Request for approval of a partial two"--story, j
35,075 square foot office complex, change of zone
from R-1 and R-3 to O.P. and negative declaration
of environmental impact, located north of
Alessandro between San Pascual and San Juan.
Mr. Joy reviewed the background and salient points of the staff
report. He noted that staff was concerned for the two story
structure's location to single family residences, but with a proposed
setback of a minimum 100 feet, staff could recommend approval. �
Acting Chairperson Whitlock opened the public testimony and asked the
applicant to address the camussion.
MR. DAVE MANOOKIAN noted that there would be access onto
Alessandro and emergency access provided onto San Juan. He felt
consideration had been given for the neighborhood concerns and t
indicated that he had to have the two 2 story structure at the
southeast corner for the project to make sense. He also stated
that landscaping would be 28% coverage.
Acting Chairperson Whitlock asked if anyone present wished to speak
in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposal. There being no one, the
public testimony was closed.
Commissioner Downs felt the applicant did what was requested and was
in favor of the project.
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Cannissioner Jonathan asked if the neighbors had seen the revisions. E
Mr. Manoodsian responded that post cards had been given to the
neighbors--only one came to their office to review the plans and was
in favor, and two letters were received in favor of the project.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Co mnissioner Jonathan,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Carried 3-0.
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Jonathan,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1356, recommending
approval of PP 89-6 Amendment 2 and C/Z 89-6 to city council.
Carried 3-0.
D. Case Nos. PP 89-11, VAR 89-3, PM 24630 - DAVID AND MARY
STOLZZMAN, Applicants
Request for approval of a precise plan, parcel
map and height variance to permit a 47,340 square
foot medical complex on 4.08 acres on the east
side of Portola Avenue, 700 feet north of Country
Club Drive.
Mr. Drell outlined the salient points of the staff report and stated
that the project met the 25% floor area ratio. He noted that the
project would be developed in three phases and all perimeter
landscaping and two access points would be completed in phase 1.
Staff recommended approval. t
Acting Chairperson Whitlock opened the public testimony and asked if
the applicant wished to address the commission.
MS. MARY STOLTZMAN, 74-055 Highway 111 in Palm Desert, spoke in
agreement to the conditions of approval and indicated the
architect and engineer were present to answer questions.
Acting Chairperson Whitlock asked if anyone present wished to speak
in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposal.
MRS. PAMELA SMALLWOOD, 71-111 La Paz Road in Rancho Mirage, f
stated that she was in favor of the project. She indicated that
she was the property owner to the south and requested that the
maximum setbacks allowable be placed between her approved
project and that of the Stoltzman's and still accommodate
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%NW parking requirements. She felt that the distance between the
buildings would enhance both properties and the area.
Mrs. Stoltzman informed commission that the setback would be 15 feet.
Acting Chairperson Whitlock closed the public testimony.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Cbm missioner Jonathan,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Carried 3-0.
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Jonathan,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1357, recommending
approval of PP 89-11, VAR 89-3 and PM 24630 to city council, subject
to conditions. Carried 3-0.
E. Case Nos. GPA 89-4, C/Z 89-9, PP 89-9 - DEBCNM,
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Request for approval of a general plan amendment, f
change of zone, precise plan of design and
negative declaration of environmental impact for
a mixed use office/restaurant project consisting
of 114,800 square feet of offices and an 11,000
square foot restaurant on an 11.3 acre site
located on the north side of Highway 111 at the
east city limit.
Mr. Diaz outlined the salient points of the staff report and
indicated that the applicant would have to choose between general
office and medical uses due to the difference in the required
parking. He added the conditions that the entire project must meet
the parking requirements and if developed in a phase basis, each s
phase must stand alone. Mr. Diaz stated that a letter from Indian f
Wells had been received expressing concern with the drainage; the z
public works director had informed Mr. Diaz that the drainage would
be resolved. Mr. Diaz also noted that a condition #27 would be added
to public works that the applicant shall provide for the construction
of a storm drain system capable of transporting stormwaters from the
project boundary northerly to Fred Waring Drive; satisfactory
easements necessary to the installation of subject system shall be
secured by the applicant and costs associated with the construction
of subject storm drain system shall be subject to reimbursement in
the form of a zero interest reimbursement agreement between the
applicant and the city. Another concern was that the project would
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be the eastern entry to the city and the city would like an
identified area for a city entry sign in the front of the project and
staff would recommend to the Civic Arts Committee that the Art in
Public Places fee be waived in lieu of securing that site, which
should be added as a condition. Mr. Diaz stated that the proposal
would go to council and recommended approval subject to the
conditions as amended.
Acting Chairperson Whitlock opened the public testinxxV and asked the
applicant to address the ccmnission.
MR. ROBERT H. RICCIARDI, 45-275 Prickly Pear Lane in Palm
Desert, spoke in agreement with staff and had no objections to
the added conditions. He noted that a car count had been
completed with a result of 544 and felt this would not present a
problem. Mr. Ricciardi indicated that a condition for tie-in to
Embassy Suites would be agreeable to them, but noted that when
Embassy Suites was developed, they were not required to grant
reciprocal access and he did not want this project penalized if
the agreenient could not be obtained. Mr. Ricciardi felt that
the drainage could be completed to everyone's satisfaction.
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Acting Chairperson Whitlock expressed concern for the restaurant use,
noting that the restaurant across the street did not do well. Mr.
Ricciardi stated that while they did not have a restaurant operator
at this time, they were confident that with good management the
restaurant would prosper. He also noted that the building would be
developed in phases over a four to five year period.
Commissioner Jonathan questioned the use of only one access point
onto Highway 111. Mr. Ricciardi noted that there might be one
through Embassy Suites and possibly an access to Deep Canyon when the
corner property was developed. Staff noted that there might be a
requirement for emergency access on Highway 111, but Caltrans would
decide ingress and egress and staff did not feel there would be a
safety problem with traffic backing up on Highway 111 with cars
looking for parking.
Acting Chairperson Whitlock asked if anyone present wished to speak
in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposal.
MR. PHIL BOSTLEY, 44-725 Monaco Circle in Hidden Palms,
expressed concern for noise: from 60 cycle transformer hum, air
conditions, and garbage collected at 5:30 a.m. heard from 200
yards away--he asked that counission consider a restriction;
roadway noise at the end of the development at the back wall x
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■•► adjacent to Hidden Palms. He also indicated that he would like
some consideration to the preservation of two or three maws of
palm trees be left along the Hidden Palms wall. Landscaping
adjacent to the wall with residents only 10 to 15 feet away when
sitting in their patios. He stated that no one ever contacted j
them to tell them what was being proposed. Mr. Bostley also
questioned the drainage being diverted to Feed Waring--how would
it go across their property. He also felt that a tie-in to
Emmbassy Suites would increase traffic down the entire Hidden
Palms wall and asked that to be carefully reviewed. He also
noted that if access to Deep Canyon through the corner
development was obtained, that would add more traffic next to
their development.
Commissioner Downs asked Mr. Bostley if he represented the homeowners
association. Mr. Bostley stated that he was a board member, but that
other members were present.
MR. VICTOR HASSLER, 44-179 Alba Court in Hidden Palms, concurred
with the comments of Mr. Bostley and felt that the board should
have an opportunity to meeting with the applicant prior to
project approval.
MS. GLEN CARTER, 44-379 Canne Court, requested and received
VAW information on ownership of a piece of property behind Embassy
Suites.
Mr. Ricciardi stated that he had no problem with a continuance to
meet with the Hidden Palms Board of Directors.
Mr. Diaz stated that staff would be available to meet if they were
needed.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Jonathan,
continuing CPA 89-4, C/Z 89-9, PP 89-9 to July 18, 1989. Carried 3-
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A TEN MINUTE RECESS WAS CALLED AT THIS POINT. THE TIME WAS 8:10 P.M.
Acting Chairperson Whitlock reconvened the meeting and informed the audience
that a conflict of interest be a commission member was expressed for Item I,
which meant that the matter would be continued to July 5, 1989 due to a lack of
a quorum.
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F. Case No. PP 89-12 - GEORGE MEISCIVAS, Applicant
Request for approval of a negative declaration of
envirorr ental impact and a precise plan of design
for a 17,000 square foot commercial building
located on the north side of Highway 111 midway
between Portola Avenue and San Luis Rey Avenue.
Mr. Drell informed commission that the matter had been to the
architectural camiission twice; it was continued and then denied. He
stated that the plan before the commission had not been seen by the
architectural ocnmission and was submitted after the writing of the
staff report. He reviewed the salient points of the proposal and
indicated that feedback was needed for the applicant on the site plan
and elevations and should be directed back to architectural
com-nission for review. If commission felt the site plan was
acceptable, staff should be directed to prepare a resolution of
approval.
Ccnrdssioner Jonathan asked who would be affected by the back of the
building; Mr. Drell indicated there was a parking lot and a vacant
lot to the rear. Mr. Drell informed commission that office projects
on Alessandro were being encouraged to develop fronts on the rear of
the buildings.
Acting Chairperson Whitlock o ered the public testimony and asked the
applicant to address the ccamiission.
MR. GEORGE METSOVAS stated that he had been building in
California since 1973 and stated that he retains ownership of
the buildings he develops. He informed commission that he would
not be cutting corners and that the proposed building was the
most common commercial buildings seen in Orange County (he
presented pictures of score buildings). He felt that the parking
in front was appropriate and stated that parking in the rear
presented a crime problem and with windows in the rear it would
promote theft.
Acting Chairperson Whitlock asked if anyone present wished to speak
in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposal.
MR. CHARLES FOLGER, owner of the Biltmore to the west, spoke in
favor and felt it would enhance the area. He expressed concern
that for adequate drainage due to past flooding problems and
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r.n requested that the driveway be closed at night to eliminate late
night traffic noise that would disturb the guests.
Mr. Metsovas informed ccnudssion that the drainage had been worked
out by public works and water would be directed to San Luis Rey.
Acting Chairperson Whitlock closed the public testimony.
Acting Chairperson Whitlock stated that this was one of the last
major Highway 111 lots in Palm Desert and noted that it was not
customary for the planning carmission to approve a project that had
not been through the architectural review cannission process and due
to the crucial location of the lot, they would need to review the
plan prior to planning ccnmission's decision.
Mr. Metsovas stated that he had problems working with the
architectural ccannission and asked for further direction.
Acting Chairperson Whitlock stated that she was not in favor of a
parking lot with a row of building backing up to Alessandro and would
rather see the building broken up, possibly perpendicular as opposed
to parallel to the street.
Mr. Metsovas stated that designing a 142 foot lot space which was
`.r very narrow was difficult, but he would provide lots of landscaping.
Commissioner Jonathan concurred with Acting Chairperson Whitlock's
opinion and felt that the courtyard setting and a split parking, score
in front and sane on the side, would be favorable. He also felt the
architectural review cc mtission review was needed prior to planning
camdssion approval.
Mr. Metsovas indicated that he would be on vacation starting July 5,
1989 and after discussion requested a June 27 architectural review
ccnrdssion date and an August 15, 1989 planning ccm fission hearing.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Jonathan,
continuing PP 89-12 to August 15, 1989. Carried 3-0.
G. Case No. TT 24603 - USA PROPERTIES, Applicant
Request for approval of a 36 lot single family
home subdivision and negative declaration of
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environmental impact, located on the south side
of Hovley Lane, 330 feet east of Monterey Avenue.
Mr. Joy outlined the salient points of the staff report. He
indicated that the applicant was reserving his right to protest the
drainage fees since he would be dedicating one of the subdivision
lots for the retention basin. Staff recooTended approval.
Acting Chairperson Whitlock asked if there was a problem with the
maintenance of the greenbelts fronting Hovley, or if it would be
maintained by the corner property owner. Mr. Joy replied that in
previous subdivisions the greenbelt along Hovley would be maintained
by assessment district and because of the retention basin there would
have to be an association formed to retain that basin. He did not
know if it would be an association, assessment district, or
ultimately the corner homeowner.
Commissioner Jonathan felt that Hovley Street with cul-de-sacs
running perpendicular looked "blase" and asked if staff had
considered circulating a single cul-de-sac/street to allow a break up
similar to Sagewood. Mr. Joy responded that with only two 5 acre
lots, the only thing that could be done would be to bring a loop
around and connect the two cul-de-sacs together.
Acting Chairperson Whitlock opened the public testimony and asked if
the applicant wished to address the comission.
MR. STEVE GALL, USA Properties, stated that he had reviewed the
staff report and conditions and concurred with them. He
indicated that he was sensitive to Commissioner Jonathan's
comments, but stated that they were limited with the two
parcels.
Commissioner Downs stated that the assessment district that was
discussed was not included in the conditions of approval and he would
be adding it. Mr. Gall stated that they were hoping to acccmplish
getting the retention basin and the median strip in an assessment
district, but apparently public works did not want it that way and
they were resigned to doing it their way. He felt it made more sense
to have them both in a homeowners association. Commissioner Downs
asked if that could be a condition.
Mr. Diaz stated that it would be a planning commission condition; Mr.
Holtz stated that public works would appeal the inclusion of the
retention basin maintenance in the Landscaping and Lighting
Assessment District. Mr. Holtz indicated that some of those are
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turned over to the city after a certain time period to city for
maintenance and a retention basin had never been included for that
maintenance and they wanted to avoid setting a precedent; he felt a E.
honXxiners association should maintain the retention basin. Mr. Diaz
noted that an assessment district would already be established for
the landscaping and if an association were formed and they decided
not to maintain it anymore, there would be a problem. He suggested
both, setting up a ghost assessment district that could be activated.
Mr. Holtz stated that it would have to go back to the director of
public works to review to include the retention basin in the
landscaping and lighting district; if the homeowners association were
to take over the maintenance of it, there would be no problem, as
long as the city did not end up with the retention basin maintenance.
Mr. Joy noted that there was a condition under public works no. B.
Commissioner Downs felt that it was unclear as to who would be
providing for the condition. Mr. Joy indicated it would be provided
by the homeowners association and if no association was formed for
this property it would be annexed into the existing lighting and
landscaping district. Mr. Gall noted that condition no. 19 covered
the retention basin.
Mr. Diaz stated that a planning commission edition would be added
stating, "That the public areas along Havley and the retention basin
shall be maintained by assessment district as established under the
1972 Lighting and Landscaping Maintenance Act."
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in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposal. There being no, the public
testimony was closed.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Jonathan,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Carried 3-0.
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Jonathan,
adopting Planning Camnissicn Resolution No. 1358, approving TT 24603,
subject to conditions as amended. Carried 3-0.
H. Case No. TT 24773 - USA PROPERTIES, Applicant
Request for approval of a 36 single family home
subdivision and negative declaration of
environmental impact, located on the south side
of Hovley Lane, 2000 feet west of Portola Avenue.
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Mr. Joy stated that this subdivision was similar to the previous case
and staff reconnended approval of this project and added the planning
eannissien condition as stated earlier.
Acting Chairperson Whitlock opened the public testimony and asked if
the applicant wished to address the conudssien. Mr. Gall concurred
with the conditions and was present for any questions. Acting
Chairperson Whitlock asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVUR y"
or OPPOSITION to the proposal.
MR. DANIEL BARNES, 41-613 Aventine Court in Casablanca at Havley
and Portola; he asked for and received clarification regarding
one/two story units and size. He expressed concern regarding
traffic being generated by all the projects being approved and
the dangerous situation being created and felt there was a need
for a traffic signal.
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Mr. Diaz informed Mr. Barnes that traffic signals were installed when
warrants were met for those traffic signals. He stated that
developers were paying fees for traffic signals and they would be
installed at the appropriate time. Mr. Barnes asked who installed
the traffic signal at Clancy Lane. Mr. Diaz replied that it was
Rancho Mirage, Palm Desert and haneowners of Monterey Country Club. +� .
Acting Chairperson Whitlock closed the public testimony.
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C mm-Lissicner Downs stated that he wanted to make sure the condition
for the maintenance district was added. Mr. Diaz stated that the
method that this could be accanplished would be through annexation
into the existing assessment district that is already there by the
property owner agreeing to annex to that district and have a separate
assessment to cover their cost.
Mr. Gall concurred.
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Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Ccomissioner Jonathan,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Carried 3-0.
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Jonathan,
adapting Planning Connission Resolution No. 1359, approving TT 24773,
subject to conditions as amended. Carried 3-0. -
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r.r I. Case Nos. PP 89-13 and VAR 89-2 - 0. MICHAEL H"E, Applicant
Request for approval of a negative declaration of
environmental impact, a precise plan and setback
variance for a 2650 square foot single story
office building on a 7280 square foot lot on the
east side of Monterey Avenue, 400 feet south of
Fred Waring Drive.
Action:
Due to a conflict of interest, it was determined that there was no
quorum for this item and it was automatically, continued to the
meeting of July 5, 1989.
IX. MISCE1..LLANE US
A. Case No. C/Z 89-5 - DONN AND JOANN THIELMAN, Applicants
Presentation of the resolution denying a request
for approval of a change of zone from R-1 (single
fandl.y) to R-3 (8,000) (1 residential unit per
8, 000 square feet) to facilitate a future
aw conditional use permit application to locate a
caianercial parking lot at the northwest corner of
Garden Square and Larrea Street.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Commissioner Jonathan,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Carried 3-0.
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Cannissioner Jonathan,
adopting Planning Ccnv fission Resolution No. 1360, denying C/Z 89-5.
Carried 3-0.
X. ORAL CICH4INICATIONS
None.
XI. C FMENM
None.
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XII. ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Downs, seconded by Cnrlissioner Jonathan,
adjourning the meeting. Carried 3-0. The meeting was a 'ourned at
9:08 P.M.
RAMON A. DIAZ, SecAet
ATTEST:
CAROL WHITLOCK, Acting Chairperson
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