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HomeMy WebLinkAbout0220 NIIIV�TI�'S P�IM DESF�ZT PLAN[1II� QM��IISSIQ�i I�PII� Z[JES'L�1Y - � 20, 1990 7:00 P.M. - CIVIC CFNI�t �L Q-IANBER 73-510 FRID �RII� D�tiVE � � * � � * * * �r * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I. C�LL TO ORDIIt Chairperson Whitlock called the meeting to ordex at 7:03 p.m. II. PI� OF AI�I,DGIANCE Cannissioner Jonathan led in the pledge of allegiance. III. ROLL CALL Members Present: Carol Whitlock, Chairperson Bob Dawns Ric}c F�ti��od Sabby Jonathan Jim Richards Members Absent: None Staff Present: Ray Diaz Kandy Allen Seyed Safavian � Phil Jay Phil Drell Steve Smith Tonya Nbnr�oe IV. APPFtC�T11L OF NLTId(IPFS: . Consideration of the JanuaYy 16 and Febn.iary 6, 1990 meeting minutes. Action• Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Catmissioner Dawns, appraviny the January 16 and February 6, 1990 meeting minutes. Carried 5-0. V. S[�TR�RY OF C�JIVC,IL AL'PI(�1 Mr. Diaz summarized pertinent FebruaYy 8, 1990 city oauncil actian. VI. Q"�1SF1�lI' CAI,Q�IDAR None. r.. NIIIV�fI'ES PAIM DFSIIZT PLANPTiNG QNNiISSI�T FEBRU�IRY 20, 1990 � VII. PL]BLIC FlF�1R.Il� It was maved by Camtissioner powns, seconded by CaYmissioner Richards to suspend the public hearing item order. Carried 5-0. A. C�ntirn�ed C�qe Nos. TT 25296 and C/Z 89-16 - BI(��7RN VFNIURES, Applicant Request for approval of master tentative map subdividirx� 362 acres into a 484 unit country club, a first ghase of 108 units on 35 acres, a change of zone for 25 acres of drainageway fran O. S. to PR-5 and H.P.R. , and a negative declaration of environmental impact located southeast of Portola Avenue and Highway 74. N�. Diaz explained that the draft envirorYnental in�pact report wr�uld not be canpleted until late April or early May. He reoannea�ded that cannission continue the public hearing to a time uncertain and instYuct staff to readvertise the public hearing. Chairperson Whitlock opened the public testimony and asked if anyone present wished to address the camussion. There was rx� one. � Action• Moved by Commissioner powns, secanded by Cam►issioner Richards, continuu�g TT 25296 and C/Z 89-16 to a date uncertain and instructing staff to re-advertise the public hearing. Carried 5-0. E. Ca.se No. C�7P 90-6 - N�GVIlJ QIRQ, Applicant Request for approval of a negative declaration and conditional us� pennit to allaw an 18 hole public golf course on 56 acres zoned R-1 and Operi Space, located on the north side and within the Whitewater Storm CY�nnel between Cook Street arid Portola Avenue. Mr. Drell outlined the salient points of the staff report and sYx7wed a video of the area. He e�xplained that the only structures to be built on any of the property would be purely necessary for the servicing of the golf course. He noted that oorrespor�dence had bePn received from the Avail Prnperty Management Canpany representing WedgeHn�od Glen in support of the project. He irxi.icated that while the Coachella Valley Water Distxict had cont.�olling easemP.nts aver 2 � t 1•��1� PAIM DFSE�'I' F'LArII�Ii� �T�SSI�1 F�EZ[J11RY 20, 1990 "�' the entire charu7el, they did rx�t pd�ysically own the entire channel. Mr. Drell felt this was an appropriate use and r�ryded apprwal. Cannissioner Richards clarified that part of the golf caurse itself , was on land a�med by Portola Country Club on land with a CVWD easecnent. I�. Drell indicated that was correct. The entire channel south of Portola Countxy Club was a lot aoa�v�eyed by the Portola Country Club when it was originally devela�ecl. He stated there was an easement for storm water p�poses to (,'UWD. Nfr.. Drell also noted that two other letters had been received: one in opposition e,xpressing concern about the awnership problem and specifically requesting no night lighting, and another received from Alan Corneliouson of 43-120 Silktree r�equesting that the bikepath be preserved as part of this developrnent and trees planted alorig the bikepath and grass up to it. Mr. Drell indicated that if the golf course extended that high the developer would be required to � ' landscape the area. Commissioner Richards asked the city attorney about a use being proposed wit�h questions about the awnership and easem�zt and when a easer�ient was granted, what rights would the holder of the easemerit have in tezms of the use of that property. Ms. Allen indicated that it would be defined in the title doc�m�e.nts, of which she did r�t have � a copy, but in general they hav�e a right to use it for whatever purposes were stated in the titling doc�m�e.nt and the c�mer of the land was not allawed to interfere with the easemP.nt. Mr. Drell indicated that a title report could be obtained. Catmissioner Richards felt it was an ic�ortant issue. N�. Drell indicated that the operational issues of the golf course could be resolved and then the awnership issue at ar�other hearing. GamLissioner Jonath�z mted that one of the letters brought up the issue of golf balls bouncing off ceme.nt. N�. Ilrell felt that was an issue that should be addressed in the design and height on tt�se concrete esnban}unents with sane type of fencing or a ooating that wr�uld da�nperi balls and have them fall and not go bai.uicing too far. Chairperson Whitlock opened the public testi�y and asked the applicant to address the catmission. N�2. JOHN PENA, project cai�,sultant, indicated that the site has a long history of dumping and grading activity. Their intent was to develop the site into a useful recreational site for �unior and senior golf at an affordable price. He introduced N�. Ct�rci and Dave E�ans, explaining that Mr. Clarci was the former awner and director of golf at Indian Wells Coturtxy Club and N�. C�rci 3 `... NILI�IU'I�.S PAIM DLSI�T F'I,1�I�IIVII� �M�SSIC[�1 FEBR[TAizY 20, 1990 � was responsible for various stages of golf course maintenance and club house management--Mr. C�rci presently owns Demo Unlimited, a landscapirig comparYy. Sacie local pro�ects he was involved with included Desert Horizons, Vintage, La Quinta Hotel, and Desert Falls Crn.urtry Club. N�. Et�ans was a golf , professional by trade; turned pro in 1958 and managed several golf clubs in Washin�gto� before caniryg to the desert in 1965. He joined the La Quinta Countxy Club staff and was curre.ntly in charge of all golf operatioR�s. He stated that srnie issues w�ould . be resolved, especially awnership and design proUle�ns that wauld be impacted alccmg the charuzel. The chanriel itself would be gurLited and then a layer of earth with grass or something would be planted to soften the i�act of the oaricrete banks. C7�a.irperson Whitlock asked if ariyo�ze present wished t�o speak in FAVOR or the proposal. There was rr� one. She asked if anyone present wished to speak in OPP06ITIQ�i. NffZ. ROGER LANGER, 74-487 Gary Avenue in Portola C,ountry Club, stated that he was ru�t in direct oppositi�. He stated that when he received the legal notice, he was aware that they owried that part of the channel and had never been oontacted. He indicated that the residents of Portola Country Club were rr�t adverse and the pro�ect would enhance the riverbed. He � ;�;cated that he wanted it on record that: 1) security was needed f�xn Portola into the river bed. He stated that they had motorcycles racing in there, as well as three wheelers and children frcm the middle and high schools that play in that area and wanted to make sure that there was proper security going into that golf course day arid night. He indicated that he had be�n robbed several times. 2) He stated that they were agair�st havirx3 lights in that river bed. He indicated that they were already looking at the lights fran the recreatioenal center at midnight and 1:00 a.m. and were still fightirx� the Rive.rside County Recreational Cannittee to turn off the lights at 10:00 p.m. He �ndicated there was a driving range planned ar�d in discussion with N�-. Cl�rci it was identified that the driving range would be north and sauth. He did not care which directian it went, but did not want lights. He was also opposed to motor driven carts and felt that golf balls hitting the cernent walls ' of the stonn drain could bounce up into the hanes and he was opposed to this. He indicated that as far as hillside landscaping went, he would like some landscaping on the hillsides. He also r�oted that the road access along the top where the storm drain was there was about a 14 foot concrete emban}rnient and on top of that wr�uld be a road to give the water 4 � NII�Ati'ES �I PAIM DL'SIIZT PLArII1II� �T'iISSIC[�1 FEBRt�1KY 20, 1990 ' `" department access into the sewage area. That access was granted to the water district on their easament, which was doaze in the ' last six months. He irzdicated that he testimociy was not dir�ect ' opposition. Cannissioner Fsti�od asked if Mr. Langer's ob,jecti� was to gas carts � only or electric also. N�. Langer stated that it was the gas carts , only because of the rx�ise. Camiissianer Jonat.��n asked if N�. Langer ' was representing the Yr.xneaFmers associatian. N�. Lar�ger stated that ' he was representing himself as a homeawner and had been asked by the president of the association to attend, but the associatian had not yet met. Commissioner Richards indtcated that the first issue brought up was security. He felt that arYy occtzpation of the land wr�uld help the security situation and they w�uld have to watch their awn investment. N�. Langer stated that after 5:00 p.m. they have the off-road vehicles and if they could get in there, they would. He felt they needed guards. Ccmnissioner Richards stated that the carrnission was very sensitive to the pmblem with lightirig. He felt there might be a way to have law level lights. He asked if the carts being mentioned were the gasoline carts for the golf playnx�s, not necessarily the utility vehicles. Mr. Langer concurred. Cannissioner Richards also wr�ndered what aould be dcxie abaut the golf balls after the gunite. N�. Langer stated that he discussed th.is �, with the water district at one time, with their chief engineer, and ;n�;cated that in Palm Sprir�gs they did put sanething aver the gurLite for aesthetic purposes, but he would like it as a safety factor. Mr. Diaz stated that was scmethirx� that could be looked into; but in terms of steepness of the bank, it was a geanetric problem that could be effected by haw the t-box was set up. MR. WALLACE HAGER, 74-447 Gary Avenue, ir2dicated that his residence looked aver the channel, stated that he wanted the cannission to }�xxa that he supported Mr. Langer's statements and he did r�ot }aww about the develognent t.uitil that afternoon because he had bee.n out of toHm. His ooax•,erns were security, patential damage by the gunited slope, and felt that the ball w�uld go up that hill on the Portola side with the way the holes were laid out. He indicated that he w�uld like to see the development acoariplished after discussioai and the plan refined before they oould form a valid opinion. He assured cannission that Portola owned the lots and the water district had an eas��t to take care of waste water, except for the recent easement to put in a specific pipe for sewer. 5 �.. NIIIV(TI'ES PALM DESk�T PLAN�LQ� �T�SSI�I FEBRUARY 20, 1990 � NIl�. JEFF FLC7WER, 74-535 Gazy Avenue, had oo�ricern abaut traftic movements onto Sheryl and whether it correspcxxis to the master plan of the Cook Street overpass, and whether it would be signaled, or if the entranae only would be i�r�aved or the whole street. Mr. Safavian replied that the design of the bridge avex Cook Str�et had not been finalized, so staff did not l��av haw the acce.ss to Sheryl would be made. At this point there was mt plan to look at the intersection of Sheryl and Cook Street or make any major modifications. Staff had been looking at that intersecti� for the last few months in respor�se to a lot of c�cerned citizen ir��iries regarding tr'affic problems, which really was trx�t pertinent to the proposed project. He indicated that they would be addressing the issue as related to Shexyl as far as traffic inrpact frccn this project once there was a better understandii�g of what was imrolved as to impact of txaffic and generatian of additianal voltmie to Sheryl. They had anQther project on the other side of Cook Street at Sheryl that w�ould be caning up and that intersecti� would be the sub�ect of intensive analysis in the next few months. MR. JERRY ALLIN, 74-573 Merle Drive, stated that he had beeaz a haneaumer there for 25 years and felt that C.00�c Stxeet was the most traveled street other than Nbnterey. His main aoa�icern was � txaffic. He indicated that their pro�ect was built in 1961 with 127 t�cmeowners. Since then GaYy developed in addition to 60 condos in naw, for a total of approximately 200 haneaanzers. He stated that they were isolated and aould c�ly exit by Merle or Shezyl. In 1964 they were told Merle would go frcm Cook to Portola. When Portola Country Club develaped, that was stopped. He indicated that in the dayt�me rr�w it takes him ten minutes to tuni right or left ant�o Cook fran Merle. The high sc,hool and the industrial park traffic was astroncmical an Coak Street. He felt the only way this project could be feasible at this time would be for Cook Stxeet to be widened at the wash and a traffic light install.ed at Sheryl to allow a left-turn lane for r�rth bound txaffic. He was requestirig that saneday the people in the north end of town be given the same consideration as the residents in the south end of tawn, especially in the Fairway Drive area. MR. 'I'OM MAI�IDIQc, 74-619 Gary, indicated that his property backs up to the golf course at the wash and stated that the traffic was unbearable on Cook Street. He asked where the club hQu.se would be located. N�. Drell stated that it would be fairly central and close to the edge of the wash. Mr. Mandick asked 6 � I�'IINUI`FS PALM DESII�T F'LAN[SIl�]G �T�IISSI�i F�R[�RY 20, 1990 ' '"' what would happen on the flat land north of the wash. N�. Drell , iridicated that it would part of the golf oaurse. Nh'. Mandick , asked if there wauld be a wall in the back of their pr�o�erty. ' N�. Drell stated that it wo�ild be up to the 2xx��eowriers. Ntr�. ' Mandick asked if the golf �se w�uld be develoned right to ' their property line. Ntr�. Drell indicated that it would and , indicated that if �the haneawners wanted walls put up, it sh�uld ' be requested and noted that in mancy oo�.urtry clubs residents pay ' more money to hav�e their Yxx��es look aut anto a golf caurse. He suggested that GaYy as a gr�oup get together to cane up with scmethi.ng that would be fairly uniform. N�. Marzdick asked what wr�uld happen with the traffic if the pro�ect develo�ed. before Cook was ca�leted--he felt that scmeorie was going to be killed ' out there. He w�ndered why the stap sign aoulc�'t be pushed back one mr�re stxeet to give a ten�arary stop sign to allaw them ' out of their tract and give them a chance for exit. ' Carinissioner Richards rx�ted that the Cook Street averpass was r�t going to happen soon and knew there would be daytime traffic , generation fran this development and asked what the requirements of the city were in order to make a charx3e in that intersection. Mr. Safavian gave a brief background of what staff had do�e in the last few months. He stated that the basic criteria to meet Caltrans standards could r�t be met, even two weeks ago at the peak of the �"' season. He also informed carrru.ssion that when a stap sign was placed in a location that did r�t warrant it, it caused more accidents. He i.ndicated that Cook Street wr�uldn't be wide.ned for a fe�w years and another problem was the location of Sheryl being so close to the wash, which made it vezy difficult with liability and accidents to control it. He stated that staff was aware of the problem and was workuzg on it, but the solution at this time was not for a coa�trolled intersection with stop signs. N�. Mandick spoke up frcm the audieriae and stated that there were three injury accidents last week alone fran the sauth end of the wash and Shexyl. He personally witnessed them. Mr. Safavian stated that the accidents N�. Mandick was referrirx3 to had rx�thuzg to dr� with the Sheryl �ntersection, but a problem created by the water district when they opened up a truck raute through the � wash and trucks were ocm.ing on arid off frcm the deep section of the wash and passenger cars heading south aould not see that, which created ttzose accidents. It had rx�tl�zg to do with the intersectian control. 7 or+• NiIN(7ITS PAIM DFSII�`P PI�II�IIJIlJG �M�SSION FFBRUAKY 20, 1990 � MS. MAUREEN HQ�ISTRA, 74-862 Leslie, was ryot in op�osition, but was asked to speak to the commission by the kids of the neighborhood. They walk to and fx�xn sc.nool usirig the wash. They wanted to krxxa what kind of a foot path would be put through the wash so that the kids cauld walk to ar�d f�n school. She stated that these were high sclxx�l kids that asked her, as well as middle sctx�ol and elementaYy sr,��ool kids. She incii.cated that these kids like the exercise and it takes t-hem 1 haur 20 minutes ta get Yyane if they travel on the bus. Cam�issioner Richards asked if Ms. H�n.stra was talking abaut the Cook Street side. Ms. He�nstxa replied that it was from the Sheryl side-- frcm Sheryl to the middle sahool, fr�an Sheryl to Palm De.sert High School fran the top of one wash through to the t�ap of the other wash in the middle, crossirig just before the Portola Nbbile Park and ccme up at the foot bridge on the other side. Caimissioner Richards noted that it would be a problem ta have people crossing where others are hitting golf balls. N�. Diaz suggested that they walk to Portola and Cook. Ms. Hemstra stated that they were rxot allawed to walk by the highways because of the traffic and trucks. Ca►missioner Richards felt that sharing the foot traffic from Sheryl through the wash on either of the borde.rs might be sanething that needs to be created. •� Nll�. DIQC CALL, 74-613 Merle Drive, stated that two signals were needed: one at Joni and one at Shezyl. He stated that the stop sign at Joni was more like a pause and slide through sign. He felt that fran 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. it was daix�erous. MR. STAN ASSERO, 74-607 Gary Avenue, stated th,at he and his wife were in fawr of the project because right naw the place was a dump. He stated that traffic, lights and walkways for kids were a problem. He felt the problem was that Cook Street at the wash was a single lane going both directions and on both sides of that there were two lanes going each direction which created a neck cic�m situation and the cars race to get single file. He felt the golf course would be better than a di.ut�. MR. LONNY WHITTINGTON, off of Fred Waring, felt that the majority wr�uld rule on the danger an the stx�eet. He indicated that whenever he had gone to Boardwalk and other stre�ts, he felt that he was takux� his life into his hands. He stated that it was a nightmare to drive that stxeet and asked haw much stop signs cost. 8 � �i'FS PAIM DLSERT PLANI�rII� Qt�T'iISSIC[�1 FT�R[�FtY 20, 1990 """ N�. Safavian inforn�d Mr. Whittington that it was not a question of economics, but that you cbn't install stop signs or txaffic signals ' in locations that do not warrant them because it can irxxease accidents, which statistics slx7w. He indicated tZx�se guidelines wer�e ', set by the state. Mr. Safavian informed commissioaz that the ' intersection of Cook and Havley was in the latest stages of d,esign to ' be signalized. He felt this would pravide a lo�ger gap in traffic flaa, which would be beneficial. Mr. Whittirigton stated that this might redixce the traffic spE,�ed ' fran 55 mph to at least 45 m�ah. He felt that if that mitigation ' of a txaffic signal at Cook and Havley was oaning, it offered sane hQpe. Carmissioner Richards stated that might be the case whP.n dealing with large develognents when it was determined that tt�e develognent wo�uld have a ma�or impact for a lor�g time, but that was rnt the case in this situation. He ind.icated that a signal aosts approximately $125,000. He also rx�ted that the area in questian was recently aruzexed into the city and the city has a loa�g term goal of installing , an all weather bridge aver Cook and that in part wo�ld go with the ' freeway intersection. He felt that traffic would not be getting ', better, but it could be made safer. He indicated that this type of project in an area that had a history of proble�ns with d�IInpi.rig, was "� worth listening to and would do what it oould. Ntr�. Whittingtan indicated that he more fully understood the problems that could occur with puttirig in stop sigrLs that were not warranted. He felt tY�e city was doir�g a good �ob. Mr. Stan Assero addressed. the cc�Lissi� and asked if it was expea�sive to widen Cook S�t at the wash. Mr. Safavian did not feel it was appropriate to sperui tax dollars for a road ttiat w�uld be used temporarily for approximately two years. N�. Assero stated that the city stwuld determine if they would rather spend scR� money or have saneone hurt. Nfr. Safavian stated that the problem was not really the number of lanes, but speeding and intersection control, which was not necessarily an issue of this project. Mr. Assero agreed that part of the problem was haw the road nasY�aaed. Nfr. Diaz rwted that the issue being discussed was rr�t the golf club, but the traffic on Cook Street and felt that whether anythirig was done on this project, there would still be �,erns an Cook. N�. Diaz felt the matter shQuld be continued to the next meeting and at 9 � NIII�UI� PAII�I DFSERT PLAN�TTII� �I+T�SSIC�1 F�RLm,RY 20, 1990 � that meeting the traffic erx�ineer cauld bring back the entire plan for Cook Street and the in�act of this p%j ect o� Oook St��eet with evexythisx� that w�uld be cbr�e, inclucii.rig the signalizatioal at Havley and Cook, the stop signs, the widening and Mello R�oos and the bridge. MR. DAVE EVANS, with the applicant, stated that they c3o want to build a golf course and want it to be a c�ood thing for Palm Desert. He indicated that there would be a patrollir�g guard. They met with the haneawners associatian of Portola Crnurtry Club and felt everythirig wo�uld be wor}ced out. They would provide fencing to keep people fran driving cars and trucks, bikes or motorcycles on their property. He indicated. that they wnuld be sper�ding approximately $2,200,000 on the pro�ect. He stated that they w�uld do eve�ything within their b�dget to put into operation scmething that would be good for Pa]m Desert in that area. Commissioner Jonathan asked how Ntr�. Evans would feel about the restriction on gas pawered golf carts and night lighting. Mr. Et�ans stated that they have rn plans for night lights and no plans for gasoline golf carts--he indicated that the oail.y carts usirx3 gas woi.�ld be the maintenance carts. NIRS. TONI ASSERO, 74-607 Gary Avenue, asked about the projected +•�' start and finish dates and haw mariy golfers were expected on a daily or weekly basis for traffic. Mr. Et�ans indicated there w�uld be approxunately 100 golfers per day in January, Febn.iary, April and Navecnber; 112 per day in March; 80 in May; 75 in June; 50 in July; 38 in August; and 75 in December. He stated that the start date wvuld be May 15 and openirx3 w�uld be Navember 1, 1990. Mr. Pena stated that the canditians of approval provide for signalization participation at that intersection. In regards to the fe.ncing along the h�anes on that side there would be scme fencing, landscaping or a livirig wall and there was a oondition for sidewalk along C'.00k Street for access to the sr.tx�ol. He concurred with those aonditions. C�aizperson Whitlock asked that the security issue be clarified. Nfr. Pena stated that it would be a security guard patrolling in the eveni.rig and some sort of security fencing ad►nissable by the water district and maybe a stretch cable along the area that weuld nQt ii�ede the water flaw when that channel was full and something to keep vehicles out and off the golf course. 10 � NII.�TI'�S PAIM DESI�ZT PLAIV[1Il� QM�SSI�1 F�R[�RY 20, 1990 `~ MR. C��RLES OOLII�N, in Portola Country Club, asked what the fees w�uld be on the course. Mr. �ans replied $22 pe.r round, not including the cart. Cfiairperson Whitlock closed the public testimoa�y. Commissioner Richards stated that he wr7uld vote appzr�val of the proj ect �ased on the nwnber of problems that exist being wc�rked aut and making tYx�se issues �nditions of appmval. He felt that staff ' should have resolved the aanership problgn before it came to public ' hearirig. He stated that the problem between Portola Caurtry Club, the water district and others str�uld be worked aut in regard,s to a�mership and that be placed as a ooa�zditian of approval. He also felt the issue of a ferir�e or open space for the residents oaz Gary was up to the neighbors--he stated that was a rx�rmal ooridition of apprr�val. He indicated that he would like the developer to attempt a � way to deal with the kids' situation and hav�e alcxzg the b�rders of Cook Street and Portola a sidewalk thrnugh the wash that would not ' impede the project's security problems or liability problems. He stated that the att�pt should be made to pravide a walk path fr�an ' one side of the wash to the other at approximately the Cook Street ' side--he indicated scme sort of a pa.th was needed even if it was dirt, but one that was level. He felt the golf ball bauncing problem �, should be addressed, either in design of the golf oaurse layc�ut or in ' sane o�her way. He indicated that the residents shauld ccme to the ' calmission if they were losing their win�]aws every other week--he wanted that issue cavered so that cannission c�ould tell the developer to caver it. Carmissioner Jonathan asked if the gas carts and no night lighting were included in the added conditions. C7�airperson Whitlock stated that she would like it added in the motion. Catmissioner Richards concurred. Mr. Diaz informed commission that staff was not aware of the ownership problem until four days ago. He stated that one conaern of staff was that a decision shr,nild rx�t be made in haste and the condition that the developer and the Portola Cauntxy Club wr�rk out . their agreements, that agre�nent reached might r�t be satisfactory to the city. He felt that within the next two week.s tYbse tl�ings could be worked out. Conmissioner Er�x�od felt that was a good point and r�oted that in many instances in the past for less justification a project had been continued to iron all the matters out and felt that staff's concern was valid. 11 ...► � PAIM DFSF�2T F'I,At�SIlJG �M�LISSICH�1 F� 20, 1990 �, � Ccamissioner Dawns asked if the applicant wr�uld agree to a two weP,k continuance. Mr. Pena agreed to a tvar�-week aontinuanr.e: he info� camiission that they also had bee.n surprised that tt�e water district did not a�m that land. Caimissioner Richards stated that his oancern was that a lot of residents were present th,at might not be able to cane to the next meeting. He shared ��issioa�er �ti�od's ooa�i, but felt that a oount sYxnzld be taken of the oatmissi�. CamLissioner Jonathan stated that he would second a motion for appraval, but wanted to enoourage the people present not to give up on the traffic problem in th.at area. Chairperson Whitlock stated that she also had rb objection to a motion of approval. Action: Nbved by Carmissioner Richar�7s, seconded by CamLissio�er Jonathan, approving the findings as presented by staff. Carried 4-1 (Cannissioner �Y��od voted rx�). Nbved by Carmissioner Richa�rLs, seaanded by Cannissio��er Joa�ath�l, adopting Plaruzing Carmission Resalution No. 1421, appraving C(JP 90- 6, subject to conditions as amended. C�rried 4-1 (Cannissioner �rlr' Er��od voted no). Chairperson Whitlock called a five minute recess at 8:33 p.m. B. Case IJ�. Z�' 25fi01 - A� PATEL, Applicant Rec�uest for approval of a 19 lot sir�gle family subdivision on 4.75 acres south of Havley Lane, ' 2,000 feet east of Nbnterey Avenue. Mr. Joy outlined the salient points of the staff report and recomn�.nded appraval. Camussioner Jonath�Z asked about the miriiurnan lot sizes. N�. Joy replied that the minilrnIIn lot width was 60 feet wide. Chairperson Whitlock opened the public testimony and asked the applicant to address the c�onmission. MR. JAMES MAY, 24-801 Plodden in Laguna Nigel, representing N�. Patel, stated that the average lot size was 8,400 square feet. 12 ur+ N�IV(TI�S PAIM DESIIZT PLANIIIl� 0.'M��SSI(�1 F�RUARY 20, 1990 "" He stated that he had no problem with the ooa�dttio�s. He asked about drainage fees and if they wauld be used at a later date for sca� type of drainage in that area. Mr. Diaz indicated those fees w�uld be used to help protect that area ' from drainage. C�airperson Whitlock asked if anycme present wished to speak in FAVOR or 0�'P06ITICN to the proposal. There was rio o�e and the publ.ic testimony was closed. Action- Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Commissioner EYw��od, ' appravirig the findirlgs as presented by staff. Carried 5-0. Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Commissioner �y,�od, ' acbpting Planriing Cannissian Resolution No. 1422, app�raving TT 25601, subject to conditions. Carried 5-0. , C. Ca._se No. TT 2A866 - S{XTI'E�TEST PA�I�iS, Applicant Request for approval of a five lot tentative map and negative declaratian to allaw faur hanesites ``� and dedicated open space on 7.73 acres gene.rally located on the west side of the Palm Valley Storm Channel across frcm the Scamerset Cor�aninituns. � Chairperson Whitlock informed commission that she would be abstaining. Mr. Smith outlined the salient points of the staff report and recaYmended appraval, subject to conditions. He noted that the o�ly unusual condition was the requ.irecnP.nt of the str�et color be color- coated to blend in with the existing hillside. He also indicated that the applicant had expressed concern abaut aondition #4 of public works which required a mininn�m 32 foot wide travelway. They hoped to get by with somethulg less. t�. Safavian su.ggested a charige that a travelway width not be limited, but as detexmined by the director of public works. Canaissioner Jonathan asked about access. N�. Smith aonfiYmed that the access wr�uld be through Thrush and the road w�uld be ooi�,structed to the project from �he water distxict road. N�. Smith de,nbnstxated on the map what was proposed. Further discussion occurred on potential sites for road access, develognent of adjacent parcels, an 13 � r+IIN[TPES . PAIM DFSgtT PII�NNIl� 0.'rT�SSI�1 F�SR[lAEtY 20, 1990 � averall roadway improvement plan and road stand��rds and maintenance through possible assessment districts. Cam►issioazer Richards felt that the road standards sYxxild be detennirved for the whr�le area before any other develognents were appraved. Chairperson Whitlock o ed the public testima�Yy and asked if the applicant wished to address the arm�issioa�. MR. RICHARD HOWARD, 79-820 Camel Back in Bermuda Dunes, . indicated that it was his intentioa� with the c3�veloper to the nc�rth to imprave the road and it was Nh�. Cl�n's intent to bring the road up to the proposed property and share the cost, which they were in the process of wor}cing out with CVWD. He indicated that scme type of instructioai was needed fran the city as to what standards the road stxx.ild be and they wer�a willing to work with Ntr�. Clem to the north with an ovexall plan aoa'�ducive to all the property awners to access his property. He felt safe access to their property was necessary for their four hanesites. He did not feel it was appropriate to put a large city requirement street struct�re, but sanething conducive with the natural terrain of the area. . Camtissioner Jonathan asked if the impravernents to the road being contemplated extended cia�ni to Thnash. Mr. Haward replied yes, that � it was appro�nately one mile fran their pra�erty border to Thrush and they ��uld pave in the areas between the aoncrete spillways. He stated that it was their intent to pravide nice, paved roadways for the YxxneoRaners. After further discussion regardi.ng the roadways and access, C7iairperson Whitlock asked if anyo�e wished to speak in FAWR or OPPC�ITI�I to the proposal. MR. HURBERT N�YER, 48-600 Oakv�x�od Way, representing Sannerset Hanecx�mers Association. He had some questians abaut the access and which bridge they would be using. He wo�ndered haw the constzuction equi�zt would be able to access the bridge roads. He was also concerned about the presexvatio�n of the hillside and did r�t want any visible roads. MS. IRENE TAFFY, 72-306 Blueridge Court, asked for and received clarification on the location of the road being discussed. Cannissioner Jonathan explained that the road would go through Thrush bridge belaw the church and Indian Cxee.k. She objected to viewing the h�mes fran her patios. Canmissioner Richards outlined the strict requirernents for builduzg in the hillside. Ms. Taffy stated that they bought their hane two 14 � �+II1�I�F� PAIM DFSI�T PI11I�II�ING 0.T'I�IISSI�I F'ID�R[J11RY 20, 1990 "" years ago and were told that rr�thu�g would ever be developed to block their views. Ccnmissioner Jo�athan explaiu�ed that the hanes would be there, but aver five acres would remain undisturbed and while they might be visible, ther�e would mt be lush laridscaping or a lot of roads. Commissianer E�ti�od explained that the hillside building requirements were restrictive and the city was in a p�siticaz that it allaw some restricted develo�lt or purchase the hillsides. Nfft. JERRY DII�IINGI'ON, 7�-894 Lenr�oan Place, stated that he was the erx�ineer on the pro�ect. He asked CaRntssio��er Richards wYYy he was concerned about tt�e road beir�g aantinued to the tract rr�rth of the pro j ect. , Commissioner Richards stated that his reasoci was that the city standard was 32 foot wide roads, which probably couldn't be , ', accanplished witYwut blasting out roc,�k; the spillways wpxe there and while it might be possible to redesign them to handle traffic and still transport water, that had not yet beP.n determined; the fire marshal w�ould also need a nunimum 24 foot road, but with some creative conditions, it aould be chariged (i.e. using sprinklers in the Y�ies). He indicated that he would like to see the city cane up with a better set of guidelines so that auners in tha� area w�uld }u�w what wauld be expected and the oosts involv�ed. �" N�. Denriirx�ton concurred, but ind.icated that t�ne was of the essence and felt they would be able to go along with the north tract as it was conditioned. Commissioner Richards stated that he did not like the access as proposed and felt a bridge halfway in between might be a solutian. Nfft. TC�NI JOI-�15TON, 71-386 Halgar in Rancho Mirage, indicated that he was a principle in the project and stated that their neighbor to the north has an apprc�ved project and asked what requireinents were asked of that property awner regardi.ng the road. Caimissioner Richards felt that the city had been sitting back too long and felt if more develo�azt was allowed, the requirements shQuld rwt be done in a patchwork maruzer. He wanted set standards for roads in that area. After further discussion, it was determined that the matter would be continued for faur weP.ks to allaw the applicant to work with city staff and C,''VWD to determine set standards. Staf f suggested including Nh�. Cl�n and Cannissioner Richards suggested the applicant also talk with Mr. Fox. 15 .... NIIIVCTI'FS PAIM DL'SLRT PLANNII� 0."M��SSIQ�J F�BRtTAFtY 20, 1990 � ' Action• Moved by Commissioner powns, seaar�dded by Catmissio��er Jor�athan, continuing TT 24866 to March 20, 1990. Carried 4-0-1 (C7iairper�on Whitlock abstained). D. Case Nos. PM 24090 and PM 25875 - AHI�IANSON QOI�R�RCTAT• DE�IELLAPN�P QMPANY, Applicant Request for approval of tentativ�e parcel maps creating parcels defined by the Ahmanson C��rcial DevelognEnt Agreement. N�. Drell outlined the salient points of the staff report. C�airperson Whitlock o�ed the public testimorYy and asked if the . applicant wished to address the aamussion. MR. C�-�ARLES BEECE�R, 3191 Temple Avenue in Pomoa-ia, stated that he reviewed the staff report and took m excepti� to it. He was trying to get the legal open space to dedicate it to the city and create the two developable par�cels and anQther parcel map to get a subdivision endQrsemP.nt thr�ugh the title oanpany. � C�zairperson Whitlock asked if anyone present wished to speak in FAVOR or OPP06ITI�1 to the proposal. Nfft. GDORGE F�OX stated that he would like to address two issues to begin a tYx�ught pz�ocess. In one area there was an easernent granted by the original awner (�z) and t,u�dex legal advice � fr�an his attorney, he indicated that whatever easements they had recorded and given to the property at that time may be addressed. In that regard the easement as originally given was to assay Highway 111, th+e non-interdicted high�way to give this , property freec3�n of mavement east and west. Over the years the CVWD had interdicted Painters Path, which is the site of old Highway 111. He indicated there were two ways to g�: 1) perfect � the easeinent to the present Highway 111, which might ryot be in the best interest of the city; or 2) perfect the easement in Painters Path with a bridge. He stated that they were naw in dialogue with CVWD on the basis that the interdictian was caused by CVWD. He felt that "them that broke it has to fix it", natirx� that their position may r�ot be his. He indicated that the city's position was }�m, because it was decided at the city council. His awn feelirlg was that what the planning carmission decided At�unan.son was to deed a paL�cel of land as a 16 � 1'1.1�1`1�/1� PAIM DESF�T F'I.AI�T� Q,'M'�IISSI(�I k�BR[]A�Y 20, 1990 " buffer and mave Painters Path with the bridge; he felt this was the perfect solution. He stated that if it came to pass in their dialogue and le�gal machinations with GVWD that they would ' be forced to redo the bridge, the plans for the Ahmanson Develognerit have gone to the point where that land was r�o longer available to Painters Path, then t-hey have lost the parkway which was conducive to the neighborhood. He indicated that he just wanted the planning aannissian to }uxxa what was goir�g on and that they were tzying to get that bridge back in. He stated that it was o�n the right--of-way of GVWD, which they ac�nitted to, and they would be happy to take off that rea�-por�sibility and if ` the city wanted to build a bridge they wvuld sign off. He told them that the city's position was that tt�y aould have received the bridge gratis fran Ahmanson and they did rbt want it. He stated that they were forcefully addressing that. Otherwise, he was in full favor of the develognent and felt that it w�uld be good for the city. Chairperson Whitlock closed the public testimcaYy. Action: Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Cannissioner Richards, appraving the fincliux�s as presented by staff. Carried 5-0. .�.. Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Comnissianer Ric,h�rds, adoptirlg Planning Carmission Resolution No. 1423, appro�ving P'M 24090, subject to conditions. Carried 5-0. Maved by Carmissioner DcxarLs, seconded by Commissioner Richards, ac3�pting Planning Carinission Resolution No. 1424, appraving PM 25875, subject to conditions. Carried 5-0. F. Ca._9e No. PP 9�1 - �II�.�Pf-I ��LE.Y, Applicant Request for appraval of a 10,000 square foot office building and associated parkir�g lot and greenbelt to be located at 73-330 Highway 111 ar�d 44-885 San BerLito Circle. Mr. Drell outlined the salient points of the staff report and stxxaed a video of the area. He explained that timin� betw�een develapment of an individual parcel apart fran a coordinated plan was presentirig a problem. He indicated that although the zorurig and parkirx� issues were unresolved, the applicant needed feedback and direction so he could pursue possible solutions. He asked aarnLission to determine if 17 �... MIIV�TI'ES PAI�i DESERT PLANI�TII� QiK��IISSI(YV , FIDR[]ARY 20, 1990 � the tw� story aver parku�g was an acceptable am.hitectural design and if it were, which building alt-,psT�ativ�e was preferred. He indicated that if the ground floor parking plan was unacceptable, then c.aimission s2muld direct the applicant to pursue possibilities of acquiring more property so that all required parkir�g aould be accam�dated in the rear lot. Or oatmissi� cauld initiate the creation of a zonirig ordinance amer�hnent and/or a change of zoa�e to permit cannercial parking oor�sistent with the reaam�e.rldatio�s of the Palma Village and Commercial Core Specific Plans. Staff and ccmnission discussed possible alternatives. Chairperson Whitlock opened the public testimoa�y and asked if the applicant wished to address the c�cintission. MFt. �I OOF�LLEY, 38-042 C�ncus in Palm Valley, ir�dicated that the alternate parking plan presented conformed with city standards. Mr. Drell aonc..vrred that the spaces confoxm and there would still be three ccmpacts in the back, but the rnunber of confoYming spaces did nr�t meet the star�dard. N� Co�{eley asked if they were able to make the back lot ooriform, if the project w�ould aonform in all ways. N�. Drell aoncurred. N�. Cokeley stated that he would like to see the planning cannission give him an appraval of the project subject to their being able to aonfonn the back parking lot, which would enable them to '� approach the adj acent property awners. Cannissioner Jonathan stated that he did r�t fawr the tw� stoxy use aver the parking. He did rx�t feel it was in the right place in Palm Desert and did not feel the three story appearance was appropriate. Mr. Cokeley noted that they were five feet belaw the Highway. CamLissioner Jonatht-�n stated that the problem was the aesthetic implicatiQns of a three story building. Camdssianer Richards concurred and indicated that if the building at least fran the frn�nt appeared to be two story with the und in the back, it might be acceptable. After further discussion, Chairperson Whitlock asked if any�one present wished to speak in FAVOR or OPP06ITICN to the proposal. . MR. PAUL DOVE, 44-830 San Clemerite Circle, felt the project wr�uld be an improvemerit to the frontage road and was in favor of that, but expressed conceni about the noise level of the parkirx� lot. He suggested that if the contractor's wanted to build parkirig lots, that perhaps they oould build block walls adjacent to the properties. Ntr�. Drell stated that t,��y wrn.ild be required to do that. Mr. Dave stated that there was rx� wall at the 18 � G � NBNCTI'FS PAIM DESERT F'LArII�TIl� Q2T+IISSICN F�BR[�1RY 20, 1990 ; � ,.., i Enterprise building and they heard the cars frccn that and the ' Red Barn and also irxiicated that those owr�ex's let the olear�ders die, which had helped to rec3�ice the rx�ise. N�. Dave iruii.cated � that the fonrier aaner of the Nbbile Station/car wash used to dump all his stuff back there which wauld drain into their � swiimLirig pool after every August flood. Comnissioner ��x�od stated that a wall would definitely be required. Mr. Drell r�oted that the r�wner of the Enterprise was Rolar�d Sweat and ; he had sulxnitted a plan for a parkirig lot without a buildir�g. He ,, indicated that once a zoa�e was established to pennit that, they oauld ' attach the wall oon.stYuction as a �itioaz. Mr. Drell explained II that he needed sane sort of di.rection that w�uld lead to the ap�prr�val ', of this plan, direction for a resolution of cleizi.al or cantinuarlae. , If there were three wtes agai.nst the two story aver the parking �, plan, a den.ial w�uld be in order. He stated that if the c7wner went '� out to buy additional property to ocmply with the standards, he needed to know if commission would approve the buildu�g. If catmission wouldn't, then there would be r�o point for him to go to that exper�.se. Chairperson Whitlock closed the public hearing and stated that she liked the plan as presented. She was in favor of the way that the „" building was stepped back and was not opposed to the existing parking layout. Commissioner Er�,�od concurred, assumi.rig that the extxa parking was solved. Mr. Drell asked which plan the commission preferred. Catrnission indicated that they prefexr�ed alternative 1. Mr. Drell also indicated that there would be a dedication of faur feet to get a full 24 foot legal alley for circulatian. C.cnmissioner Ikxarls stated that he was in favor of the plan and the parkiux� in the rear and adding parking as a aonditional use in the R-1 zoa�be. Carcnissioner Jonathan asked for and received clarification that the motion would be to infonn the applicant th.at if t� oould solve his . parking problem he would likely get three votes for appro�val; and to i ni tiate a zoniuzg ordinance amenc�nent adding parkiuzg as a oonditional use in the R-1 zone. Catmissioner F`rurood clarified that the motion should be for the zoning issue only. Staff oo�zcurred. Catmissioner Jonathan r�oted that the carmission was r�ot voting on the project itself, but on alternative 1 to solve the par}cing problem. Action: Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Commissioner E�tia�od, instructing staff to initiate a zoniux3 ordinance amenc�nent addiuzg parkirig as a conditional use in the R-1 zone when adjacent to a G1 zone and when consistent with specific plans. Carried 5-0. 19 ..�.� D+iII�IIT� PAIM DFSII�P PL�I�TII� �NNiISSI�I F�R[TARY 20, 1990 � VIII. NiI A. Ca._�ae No. CUP 90-5 - SE�DCJ4V MX)NPAIl�T C�OLF C7��, Applica�t Presentatian of the resolution of derLial to a request for approval of a co�ditional use permtt to allaw associated golf club management office use in a single family residence ad,�acent to the Shaciaw Nbuntain Golf Club, 73-720 Irorx��od. Chairperson Whitlock r�oted that thPxe was a resolution of denial presented and asked for a m�tion. Action: Moved by Commissioner E���od, seconded by Cannissioner Jonathan, appraving the fincli.ngs as presented by staff. C��rried 5-0. Moved by Commissioner ���od, seconded by Co�mdssioner Jonat,han, adr�pting Planning Ccmnission Re�olution No. 1425, denying QIP 90-5. Carried 5-0. IX. OR11L ai`T�JNICATIC[ZS � None. X. QTT�3�lI5 None. XI. Moved by Commissioner powns, seaonded by Camlissioner Richar�3s, adjourning the meeting. Carried 5-0. The meetirig was jaurned at 10:36 p.m. • �� . A. DIAZ, S A'I�I'EST: +� �. , a � � � � .. �..�.�' ✓�,.G�,aC�:�' . CAROL WHITI�OCT<, Qzaizperson /17n 20 �