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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY - MARCH 5, 1991
• 7:00 P.M. - CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE
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� I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Whitlock called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner powns led in the pledge of allegiance.
III. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Carol Whitlock, Chairperson
Bob Downs
Rick Erwood
Sabby Jonathan
Jim Richards
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Ray D1.az Steve Smith
, Kandy Allen Gregg Holtz
Phil Drell Tonya Monroe
Jeff Winklepleck
�, IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Consideration for approval the February 19, 1991 meeting
minutes.
Action•
Moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Commissioner
Erwood, approving the minutes as submitted. Carried 4-0-1
( Commissioner powns abstairied) .
V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION
Mr. Diaz summarized pertinent February 28, 1991 council
action.
VI. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Case No. TT 23940 - ROBERT VARNER, Applicant
Request for approval of a first, one-year
time extens.ion for a tentative tract map
at the nortliwest corner of Hovley Lane and
E1 Dorado Drive.
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B. Case No. PP 89-9 - BERNARD DEBONNE, Applicant
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Request for approval of a first, one-year
time extension for a precise plan located
on the north side of Highway 111 at the
east city limit.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Commissioner
Richards, approving the consent calendar by minute motion.
Carried 5-0.
VII. PUHLIC HEARINGS
A. Case No. CUP 91-1 - SHADOW MOUNTAIN GOLF CLUB, Applicant
Request for approval of a conditional use
permit to allow associated golf club
management office use in a single family
residence adjacent to the Shadow Mountain
Golf Club, 73-720 Ironwood.
Mr. Winklepleck reviewed the history of the project, outlined
the salient points of the staff report and recommended
approval . ,�,;
Chairperson Whitlock �ened the public testimony and asked the
applicant to address the commission.
MR. HARRY ARMSTRONG, 46-225 Burroweed Lane, described the
use and hours proposed and felt that it would be less of
a problem than a family with children. He asked for
approval .
Chairperson Whitlock asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR
or OPPOSITION to the proposal .
MR. LEWIS CLARK, 72-790 Somera, a member of the Shadow
Mountain Golf Club, felt it would be an asset to the
neigtiborYiood because of loc�� noise and traffic. Ne
indicated that traffic would be only between 8:00 a.m.
and 5 : 00 p.m, with no evening activities.
MS. VICKIF BROWN, 45-876 San Luis Rey, member of the
Shadow Manor Homeowners Association, stated that she was
opposed to the proposal for three main reasons. The home
was built as a single family residence and should remain
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. that way; all the homes around it were single family
dwellings; arid it would have a�i unfavorable effect on the
� value of surrounding properties. She indicated that she
had letters from three other homeowners in the Shadow
Manor Homeowners Association, two of which had already
said tt�ey didn' t oppose it but had retracted that.
Commissioner Richards asked Ms. Brown if the office had
controlled hours and days and could not change the exterior
character, and if parking were restricted if she would be
opposed.
Ms. Brown replied that there was some feeling that the
property owner had not been maintaining the quality of
his property. She was opposed to the uses listed and
thought there was a contradiction of having board
meetings and only having two parking spaces.
Commissioner Richards indicated that members at most board
meetings would probably arrive in golf carts or live in the
area. He felt tYie use was innocuous and the maintenance would
be assured by the country club and if it were not outwardly
changed and uses were 8:00 to 5 :00 Monday through Friday, it
would be compatible.
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Ms. Brown was still opposed and stated that if the
commission allowed a business in this residential area,
she wondered what else would be allowed.
Mr. Diaz reviea�ed the conditional use permit process and
indicated that the country club ancillary use could be made
compatible with the conditions limiting the hours of
operation, number of employees, and activities. Mr. Diaz
indicated there could also be a condition added that the
property be maintained in the manner that it is at the present
time and if at any time any of the conditions are violated or
the use becomes a nuisance, the conditional use permit could
be terminated.
Ms. Brown asked about the procedure to file a nuisance
and Mr. Diaz responded that any complaint would be placed
with the department of community development and a public
hearing would be conducted.
Commissioner Richards felt the proposed use would be good
neighbors. Mr. Armstrong clarified that the board meetings
would be the third Thursday of every month and there would be
one employee/bookkeeper.
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Ms. Brown reiterated that if therP was a problem it would
be subject to the planning cammission investigating as ,,,,�r
to whether the permit would be revoked. She informed
commission that the last time this permit was applied for
the applicants threatened the adj acent homes with eminent
domain, which did not create a good relationship and she
felt the applicant wanted to take over all of the seven
homes.
MR. RICK BROWN, 45-876 San Luis Rey, was also opposed to
the conditional use because this was a single family area
and told commission that major improvements were being
made to the homes, including new kitchens, and felt that
if an office use were allowed they would not do similar
improvements and it would devalue the property of the
other residents.
Commissioner Jonathan asked about the possibility of
sequestering the building with a wall and making it a part of
the golf course development.
Mr. Drell indicated there was a problem with the entrance and
stated that visually the house would not change.
Commissioner Richards stated that he was looking for 1 ) the
assurance that mai_ntenance and visual appearance of the �'
building would be maintained, and 2 ) he didn' t want to see a
large sign put up.
Mr. Armstrong stated that they did not need a sign and
felt that in the last four months the appearance had been
greatly improved with flowers and greenery and they
intended to keep it that way. He also indicated that a
six foot wall could be built around the property.
Commissioner Richards felt this was a nice neighborhood
adjoining a golf course and felt that the applicant' s
intentions were good.
Mr. Brown informed commission that there were three
property owriers that had put in excess of $50, 000 into
improving their property and felt that a family would be
a better use and would make a difference to their
property values. He also felt a six foot wall would
destroy the value of their hocnes.
Mr. Armstrong assured Mr. Brown that these premises
compare with any in the neighborhood as to upkeep and
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landscaping and regarding the issue of parking, he stated
that at the last board rneeting, everyone showed up in
�` golf carts. He stated that they would be a good
neighbor.
Chairperson Whitlock closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Erwood did not feel that anything had changed
since the last request and there was stili neighbor
opposition.
Chairperson Whitlock indicated that no one was present from
the Shadow Mountain Golf Club last time to explain their use
for the home.
Commissioner Jonathan stated that he had the same concerns as
Commissioner Erwood. He did not feel the quality of usage was
compatible.
Action•
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Chairperson
Whitlock, approving the findings as presented by staff.
Carried 3-2 ( Commissioners Erwood and Jonathan voted no) .
Moved by Commissioner Richards, seconded by Chairperson
� Whitlock, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1496,
approving CUP 91-1 subject to conditions. Carried 3-2
(Commissioners Erwood and Jonathan voted no) .
Mr. Diaz noted that this action was final unless appealed to '
the city council within 15 days. '
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B. Case No. CUP 91-3 - DR. BRUCE BAUMANN, Applicant
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Request for approval of a conditional use �
permit to allow construction of a family ;
fun park including two 18 hole miniature
golf courses, a bumper boat pond, a 9 lane j
batting cage, and an office/arcade/snack ;
building on � 2. 2 acre site at the corner �
of Painters Path and Fred Waring Drive. i
Mr. Winklepleck outlined the salient points of the staff
report and recomcr�ended approval . He clarified that there
would be a kitcheri for the snack shop.
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Chairperson Whitlock o ened the public testimony and asked if
the applicant wished to address the commission. „�
MR. RICK HOLDEN, 44-267 Monterey, informed commission
that it would be more of a microwave-type snack shop
serving hot dogs, popcorn and cokes. He stated that they
would be starting construction as soon as possible.
Chairperson Whitlock asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR
or OPPOSITION to the proposal; there was no one and the public
testimony was closed.
Action•
Moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Commissioner
Richards, approving the findings as presented by staff.
Carried 5-U.
Moved by Commissioner Joriathan, seconded by Commissioner
Richards, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1497,
approving CUP 91-3 subject to conditions. Carried 5-0.
C. Case No. PP 91-1 - MLA INVESTMENTS, Applicants
Request for �pproval of a preci_se plan of
desigii a�id negative declaration of �
environmental impact to allow construction
of a 40, 000 square foot mixed use
commercial complex in the C-1 zone on the
south side of Highway 111 at the city' s
western boundary.
Mr. Smith outlined the salient points of the staff report and
recommended approval .
Chairperson Whitlock opened the public testimony and asked the
applicant to address the commission.
MR. CHARLES MARTIN, 40-840 Thunderbird Road in Rancho
Mirage, informed commission that he was present to answer
any quest.ioris.
Chairperson Whitlock asked if anyorie wished to speak in FAVOR
or OPPOSITION to the proposal; there was not one and the
public testimony was closed.
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Action:
Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Commissioner Erwood,
�" approving the findings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Commissioner Erwood,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1498, approving
PP 91-1 subject to conditions. Carried 5-0.
A FIVE MINUTE RECESS WAS CALLED AT 9 : 12 P.M.
D. Case Nos. GPA 91-1 and C/Z 91-1 - CITY OF PALM DESERT,
Applicant
Request for approval of an amendment to
the Palm Desert General Plan to cover the
property south of Country Club Drive to
Fred Waring Drive west of Washington
Street to the existing city limit and to
prezone the subject area for the purpose
of facilitating annexation of the area to
the City of Palm Desert and approve a
negative declaration of environmental
impact pertaining thereto.
Mr. Smith explained that the proposal was to establish the
general plan in the area and to prezone it for annexation
� purposes. As indicated in the legal notice, it was the city' s
intent to prezone the area as closely to the existing county
zoning as possible, which was possible for most of the area.
He noted that the Sunrise property in Section 11, bounded by
Country Club, Oasis, 42nd, and E1 Dorado was annexed into the
city on January 24, 1991 . On February 28 council directed
staff to proceed with the annexation of the area north of
Country Club, from Avondale Country Club east to Washington
Street. The 1600 +/- acres represerited the remainder of the
city' s eastern sphere of influence and a portion between Fred
Waring and 42nd Avenue was added by LAFCO approximately 1 to
1 1/2 years ago. Until that time the sphere ended at 42nd
Avenue. He stated that the proponents in that sphere
amendment for the area south of 42nd Avenue were a large
contingent in the Palm Desert Country Club, and he had a
petition from them signed by 621 residents in that area in
support of this annexation effort. As outlined in the staff
report, Mr. Smith indicated that the intent was to confirm the
county land use designations and establish similar zones. The
gated country clubs, The Resorter, Oasis, Desert Breezes, and
Woodhaven would be designated residential low density 3-5
dwelling units per acre and be prezoned at PR-4, four units
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per acre. Single family areas, Palm Desert Country Club and
Whitehawk would be designated low density residential and ,,,,�
zoned R-1 and Palm Desert Country Club would be R-1 9, 000.
He stated that the Palm Desert Golf Course would be zoned open
space to assure that it would recnain that use. In the PR
zoning on the country clubs, the density was controlled by the
gross acreage and was not a problem, but where there were
single family homes on the golf course and their densities
were controlled by themselves, he vaanted to insure that the
golf course would continue as a golf course. The Palm Desert
Shopping Center on Washington Street, as well as the extreme
southwest corner of Washington and Country Club, were proposed
for the PC-2 zone and designated ttie same in the general plan.
He noted these were existing commercial areas. Golden Sun
Estates on Washington Street, a proposal was for R-1-M, Palm
Desert' s residential mobile home zoning similar to Portola
Country Club where there was manufactured housing on
individual lots. He indicated there was a series of apartment
projects in the area and they would be zoned R-3 and
designated high density residential 17-18 dwelling units per
acre. He informed commissi_on that ther.e were still areas of
controversy arid tiad received corresporidence from Mr. and Mrs.
Cook, Dick Blanpeed, Gorden Vanderworker, Richard Oliphant,
as well as several telephone calls and meetings. He reviewed
the issues raised and his responses as follows: 1 ) what would
happen to the property tax? Palm Desert does not have property er.r�
tax and there wouldn' t be a change as a result of the
annexation. Palm Desert has a per lot emergency services tax
that was voted on by Palm Desert residents nine or ten years
ago: on a single family home $48 per year; condos,
apartments, mobile homes S36 per year; and vacant land S24 per
year. He stated that this service was to provide an upgraded
level of police and fire service and no charge paramedic
services. A concern was raised that the rental programs in
some of the country club communities might be impacted; Mr.
Smith stated that they would not, indicating there were
several on-going rental programs at Monterey and other country
clubs in the city. He stated that the city would collect
transient occupancy tax from those operations. The trash
service contract was with Palm Desert Disposal and existing
contracts irz the annexation area could continue up to five
years and after that they would have to come under the city' s
contract in effect at that time. Sewer and water would
continue to be provided by Coachella Valley Water District;
schools would continue to be provided by Desert Sands Unified
School District; cable television would be Palmer Cable Vision
per a city contract--one gentleman had asked if the city
monitored this service, which Palm Desert does, and in the
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past the city had considered various options on that and if
� tYiere were inpui;, the staf'f lia_i_�,c>ri Czrlos Ortega should be
contacted and tie would make those views known to the cable
company. He indicated that one acre lots partially
developed/partially vacant comprised the Robin Road, Delaware,
and Mountain View area. Robin Road was paved with curbs and
gutters and a series of recently constructed homes on it.
Mountain View and Delaware were unpaved, original dirt roads
and in front of some of the homes there was gravel or crushed
rock which individuals had installed. He indicated this area
was mostly newer large homes, with walls and the residences
were very nice, while the streets and grading left a lot to
be desired, though some of the residents would prefer to keep
it that way. Mr. Blanpeeds ' letter indicated that many of the
properties in this area were 1 . 1 acre lots and they moved
there to be able to do more than occupy the residence as more
than a single family home; hobbies, storage, businesses, etc.
Hobbies and small business offices would not be a problem
under the single family zoning anticipated in the area in that
they qualify under the home occupation definition. Larger
businesses, storage of equipment, vehicles and material were
not legal under the county; they just didn' t enforce their
ordinance. Mr. Smith indicated that some area residents
present would be asking for the creation of a new zoning
category to permit this residential use blended with small
� business uses, which could be considered. The city' s proposal
to that issue was that on the general plan it could be
designated a study area and during that study the street
issues, drainage issues, and non-conforming use issues would
be considered. In the meantime the uses would continue to
exist in a state of suspended animation. The study was
envisioned to begin shortly after annexation. He indicated
that it did not give those property owners any long term
assurance that they would be permitted that type of use.
Another concern was several of the vacant properties along
Washington Street. The owners expressed concern with the
proposed prezoning; they felt the county would grant them
higher land uses and he indicated that he drove by a piece of
property that Palm Desert Vaould zone R-3 and it had a sign
saying it was planned for office professional . He stated that
it might be a more appropriate land use, but the goal going
into the annexation was to give everyone what they had under
the county, which was R-3 . Another property owned by Mr.
Hill, who owns three parcels, two of which were on the R-3
side of the li.rie, and one on the R-1 side of the line. Mr.
Smith indicated that Mr. Hill would be requesting R-3 zoning
for that R-1 parcel .
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Mr. Diaz asked what the study area would be prezoned and Mr.
Smith clarified that the study area would extend along ;,,,,�
Washington and include the residential area west to Warner on
Delaware, Mountain View, and Robin Road and the vacant piece
' immediate north of Desert Breezes. He stated that the front
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portion of that site would be prezoned R-3 and the rear
portion R-1 9, 000, which was what it had under the county.
Mr. Smith also noted that one other amendment to the zoning
would be made to the extreme east end of Desert Breezes, shown
as R-3, and should be PR-4 and was developed as part of the
country club out to Washington Street, with the exception of
a 2 acre site at the corner of Fred Waring and Washington
, Street, which was still vacant and walled off from the
remainder of that site. He informed commission that
approximately 4200 legal notices were sent and staff
recommended approval of the prezoning and the general plan
amendment.
' Commissioner Rictiards asked staff what the pros and cons were
� for a resident to come into Palm Desert. Mr. Smith stated
� that the pros would be the upgraded level of police and fire
service and the paramedic service. The con to that would be
that it would cost between S24 and $48 a year. Another pro
would be that people drove four or five miles to get to the
civic center; if they are in the county they start out with
county planning in Indio and end up having to drive to +�'
Riverside. Further hearings by Palm Desert would be held in
the council chamber. Commissioner Richards indicated that the
city was in a neutral position in this matter and there was
no specific economic benefits, and perhaps some economic
costs. Mr. Diaz stated that the city' s annexation
policy/philosophy was that they would not actively seek areas
for annexation, however, would welcome areas that wished to
become part of the Palm Desert family. He indicated that it
was not Palm Desert ' s desire to divide established
communities, but would welcome them and if they did not want
to come in, fine. However, in terms of costs and financial
impact on the city, it was knocen about the Palm Desert Country
Club area that there were some infrastructure repairs that
would need to be done and one thing necessary if annexation
proceeded would be a fiscal imp�ct analysis and they were
looking at the possibility of different tools available to
repair the str_eets where necessary, curbs and gutters, and
looking at overall area in terms of fiscal impact--the would
have to wait for the analysis to come in and it could be plus
or minus. Bottom line has not been the city' s philosophy of
whether or not we would bring an area in, however we have to
be cognizant of our economic situation to insure everyone was
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treated equally when they come into Palm Desert and continue
to provide the levels of service Palm Desert naw has.
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Commissioner Richards felt most impacts were to developers of
vacant property. He indicated that Palm Desert was probably
tougher on some of the standards and were generally more
consistent as to enforcement of requirements, so if he owned
property he might want to stay county; however, on the other
side, developers enjoyed doing business in Palm Desert because
standards were ensured, value created, and developers found
that the finished product enhanced their marketability visa
vie other communities. Commissioner powns concurred, but felt
that Palm Desert processed applications quicker than the
county, although being more restrictive.
Commissioner Jonathan asked for and received clarification as
to what the commission was being asked to vote on. Mr. Smith
explained that commission was being asked to vote on land use
issues through the general plan as well as the proposed
prezoning which was indicated as staff ' s best effort to
transfer existing county land use established for the area and
areas that staff received input on prior to this hearing was ,
proposed on the general plan as a study area to be completed
shortly after annexation. He indicated that additional public
' hearings would then be held similar to previous specific plans
and the city generally went with what the community wanted in
� those study areas. He stated that we were trying to establish
the existing county land use designations for the area; once
that was in place and a fiscal impact report received and a
council resolution adopted to proceed; then they would apply
to the Local Agency Formation Commission. They then typically
hold a hearing four to six months after application was made.
Hopefully at that hearing they would approve the application
and considering it was an inhabited annexation, they would
then direct council to hold one last hearing to hear from any
opposition. If the opposition was from 25� or more of the
registered voters in the area or of the assessed value in the
area, then the matter would have to go to an election. If the
opposition at that time was greater than 50$, then that would
stop the annexatior�. Commissioner Jonathan asked if the pros
and cons expressed by area r�sidents would impact what they
were voting on and Mr. Smith replied that the opponents to the
annexation would probably like to see commission not act on
the prezoning so the application would not proceed. So in
that respect the opinion on annexation would impact on
commission' s decision.
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Mr. Diaz stated that regarding ac-tivi_ties that are on-going
in the area but were not legal under the county at the present �
time--there would not be any change and when the area was
annexed, the city would have to enforce its ordinances on a
complaint basis. Commissioner Richards asked for an example
of that type of use; Mr. Diaz indicated that if someone in the
study area was conducting an automotive repair business, no
matter if it was called a hobby, it was a business and whereas
the county had not closed them down, that use was not
permitted under the county zoning, but was never stopped and
would not be a legal non-conforming use in the city, but would
be an illegal non-conforming use and non-enforcement of the
codes does not mean the use could continue. He noted that
when the Cook Street area was annexed there were quite a few
activities occurring that needed to be stopped, and it was
worked out. He wanted people to understand that while they
might be doing something in the county, it was not necessarily
legal in the county.
Chairperson Whitlock o�ened the public hearing and asked for
comments in FAVOR and OPPOSITION to the proposal .
MR. JACK FORNEY, 42-240 Kansas in Palm Desert Country
Club, stated that he had three questions. He stated that
he was a member of the architectural committee for the
Palm Desert Country Club Association and while they have �i
certain CC&R' s in their area that differ from Palm
Desert, would the city enforce their CC&R' s.
Mr. Diaz replied no, stating that the city could not enforce
their CC&R ' s, but the city cooperates with them and any
applications coming in for approval would be sent to the
homeowners association for approval . However if someone
insisted on a permit, the city would have to give them a
permit. Specific zoning regulations/overlays could be adopted
depending on what they were, which could help.
Mr. Forney stated that they tiave dedicated county roads
and many residents have golf carts and the only way to
get to the club was on county roads/public thoroughfares.
He as)c�d i f tlizt wotzicl b� a F�r.oblem iri the city.
Mr. Diaz indicated that was a problem in the county; golf
carts were not allowed on public streets in the state of
California and Palm Desert has special legislation sponsored
by Palm Desert and under study to allow the use of golf carts
on the streets. Right now anyoiie using a golf cart on a
public thoroughfare could be ticketed. He indicated that
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there was a committee studying this in Palm Desert and if any
city received this legislation, Palm Desert would probably be
�"" first, because Palm Desert was the only city authorized to
study it.
Mr. Forney asked what formula was used for police
protection in the city.
Commissioner Erwood stated that in general terms the contract
was a certain number of deputies patrolling 24 hours per day.
Mr. Diaz indicated that he did not know the specific number.
Mr. Forney asked if additional patrol cars would be added
by this annexation.
Mr. Diaz replied yes, that additional patrol cars would be
necessary. Commissioner Richards noted that the city had just
completed the sheriff ' s station adjacent to the civic center,
which would be a great benefit to the whole city by putting
police protection closer and if at some future time it was
necessary, the building could house Palm Desert' s own police
force.
Mr. Forney stated that two pros were local control and
not having to drive to Riverside and to have the
� enforcement of the illegal uses that the county was not
enforcing at this time.
Mr. Smith informed commission that one or two sheriffs would
be added and with the homes in the north area, there would be
enough homes to support a paramedic squad at the
Portola/Country Club fire station if the annexation proceeded.
MS. CINDY FINERTY, 43-592 Via Batalona, on the board of
directors at Desert Breezes, informed commission that she
would prefer to belong to the city of Palm Desert as
opposed to being under Riverside County control and felt
government worked best when functioning at a local level .
Upgraded level of police and fire protection would be
welcome and would appreciate the consistency and
toughness o f Pal�n Deser t s tanclards .
MR. IRA GARSON, owner of property on Washington and
Delaware, stated that it was zoned R-3 and clarified that
the county provides that R-3 under certain conditions
could put up a professional building. He received
December 13, 1990 an approval from the county for this
building. He asked if the construction of the building
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were delayed because of economir. viabilities, and the
property were to be annexed prior to construction, would �,,,,�r
he have difficulty with Palm Desert. He felt the land
usage zonings should be investigated carefully to
comprehend all the aspects of the county zonings. He
also asked if he were to build prior to annexation if the
city would be difficult about the usage at that time.
Mr. Smith stated that Palm Desert would recognize the county
approval, assuming it were final when annexation took place
and it would run as long as it was good under the county and
Palm Desert would also look at any time extensions after
becoming part of the city, with no guarantee that the time
extension would be granted, but it would be reviewed. If the
building was constructed or under construction when the
annexation took place, Palm Desert would accept the county
approval and the use.
Mr. Garson asked how long it would take for the
annexation to occur if everything went positively.
Mr. Smith indicated that tie would anticipate a hearing at
LAFCO in January next year if everything was fairly straight
forward and an added 60 days for the actual physical
annexation.
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MR. JEFFRY PLACE, 77-776 Mountain View, stated that was
part of the possible study area mentioned. He stated
that he moved there ten years ago and he and his wife
moved there because they thought it was a nice rural area
because of the one acre lot sizes.
MR. HAL DURCHIN, 43-595 Calle Las Brisas in Desert
Breezes, stated that he was in support of the annexation
and all their residents support the annexation.
MS. PATRICIA OSBORN, building a home at 77-805 Delaware
Street, stated that she wanted the area to remain rural
and informed commission that she had horses and wanted
to know about the proposed R-1 9, 000 zoning.
Mr. Smith indicated that R-1 9, U00 zoning did not permit
horses, but if the area was left one acre lots, which he felt
was the city' s intention, then ttirough the study it would
likely be zoned rural estate lots, which was one acre lots
that would permit horses. Commissioner Richards clarified
that it was not Palm Desert ' s intention to change their way
of life, but hopefully improve it. He stated that if horses
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were there now, hbrses would remain. Mr. Diaz indicated that
as far as the horses were concerned, the RE zone mentioned by
"�"' Mr. Smith could be prezoned and indicated horses were a legal
non-conforming use. He stated that one problem with having
horses was that if the surrounding area developed into smaller
lots, then there could be health code problems as far as
distance from windows. Commissioner Richards suggested that
these residents get together and discuss their unique or
special purposes to evaluate their goals. Mr. Diaz felt that
this use would not pose any problems.
MR. RICHARD CLARK, 74-425 Goleta and owner of property
at 77-590 Mountain View. He stated that 62$ of the
people in tYie area boucided by Warner Trail, Robin Road,
Delaware and Washington had a meeting. He indicated they
were trying to figure out what to do. He felt they were
in a unique area that had direct access into Washington
Street and l . l acres of which 62% of the property owners
were opposed to the annexation because of the small
businesses and horses in the area. He stated that the
residents like the dirt road because it keeps traffic
down. He felt that if the roads were paved they would
become through streets and result in raceways. He
submitted a petition and stated that he would be willing
to work with the city as to a study zone, but they were
concerned about workshops on the properties and he
�""' enjoyed working on his trucks in his shop and planned to
build a house in the front eventually. Others had guest
buildings in the back and it would be hard under any
existing zoning that they could fit in and be legal . He
suggested a special zone to allow them as a community to
work in a study zone to resolve their problems. He
indicated that the street could be cul-de-sacced to
eliminate traffic and there were existing drainage
problems they needed help with.
Commissioner powns asked how many lots there were and Mr.
Clark replied 81 one acre parcels, not counting the ones on
Washington and Warner Trail . Chairperson Whitlock asked for
and received clarification that 6?_0 of those property owners
were opposed to arinexati_orl. Mr. Clar.k stated that there were
81 lots arld they had 4U so���ething owners. He stated that
after staff ' s presentation and public testimony some might
have a different opinion on the annexation. They just didn' t
want city goverriment "forced down their throats" and to tell
them they couldn' t keep their motor homes parked behind their
lots, though they tried to screeri them, but with one acre
parcels most people wanted to use the property for more than
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just one home. Mr. Diaz stated that was the reason for the
study area and if_ the majority wanted something specific that �
present ordinances would not allow, a special ordinance could
be written to establish a new zone, as long as they were only
impacting themselves. He warned Mr. Clark that the dirt roads
might be an issue the city had no control over because of the
PM10 dust control issues through the South Coast Air Quality
District, and whether in the city or county the roads might
be paved and the traffic issues could be handled.
Mr. Clark stated that he could not ask for more than that
and he would be happy to work with the city.
Commissioner Richards indicated that if a legitimate
commercial business were being run, not just a hobby or
something to do part time but something with trucks coming in
and out or a product was being made with smoke going into the
air, after everyone got into the room not everyone might agree
with the use. He stated that a use like an on-going
commercial activity could be a problem. Mr. Clark informed
commission that the area was unique that way because there
were no signs and all the businesses were of a service type
industry or construction related that did not take place on
the premises and was more a place to have a telephone and a
small worksYiop ar_ound back and possibly live on the property
to add protection, but no heavy industry. �;
MR. BILL VIEZEY, 42-900 Massachusetts Court in Palm
Desert Couritry Club, stated that he owned the property
for 15 years and was a former mernber of the Palm Desert
Country Club Association. He stated that he whole-
heartedly supported the annexation of the area into Palm
Desert. He felt that urbanization had surrounded their
area with businesses, apartment complexes, and schools
and was in favor of not havirig to drive to Riverside to
be heard, even if a small tax would be incurred for
services. �Ie noted that the tax dollars would flow into
the general. funds of Palm Desert when annexation occurred
instead of Riverside County and they would become voters.
He spoke for Mr. Joe Mann who Yiad pursued the annexation
with LAFCO in support.
MR. LARRY JOHNSON, 1408 So. Ritchey in Santa Ana, stated
that he owned property at the northwest corner of Dudley
and Washington. He felt that he had ariother circumstance
that was not normal . The pr_operty was approximately
39, 000 gross feet and 31 , 000 buildable net footage after
an additional 30 feet of Dudley was improved at his
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expense under the county, as well as Washington Street
improvement. Mr. Johnson indicated that there was no
""�' right of entry on Washington, only on Dudley and was
zoned R-3 and had the right to go to neighborhood
professional zoning, which was less restrictive than city
standards. He stated that the buffer zone, if he were
included and he was asking to be included in the
commercial zone that was proposed for all the property
north of his property to 42nd Street, including the Palm
Desert Shopping Center, Don O' s Restaurant, which his
property abuts to, was a 105 foot depth on the northerly
section and to try to develop this as an apartment
project wouldn' t be proper use or good planning or
financially feasible for 8-12 units squeezed on that lot
facing Washington with no type of parking walled off such
as the property on the south. There were no buildings
or wouldn' t be any buildings within 100 feet of Dudley
to the south because they have a parking lot walled off
with double parking front to rear and center
ingress/egress, which created a buffer zone with street
width that was approxirnately 160 feet from any existing
residential unit. He felt th�t was a better buffer zone
than to stop the commercial zone at the end of a block
and leaving a small st�ip of land. He felt the proposal
was down zoning his property and would not be practical
financially, but would be better to have a pleasant
"�"'` neighborhood commercial type of use and that was his
request. He stated that if it were put into a study
zone, he felt it might be beneficial to others in the
area, but it wouldn' t help his property because it was
the only property within 1000 feet that could be
developed in a commercial type of use, which was the only
use for this property. He stated that the county
accepted the fact that this property would be used for
commercial purposes and had been about 85� of the way
through with a general plan and plot plan amendment for
a Bank of Palm Springs, but the deal fell through. He
indicated that this parcel was part of the redevelopment
district also and it was put in that district because it
would be developed as a commercial use. He felt that
commission should direct staff to put this parcel into
the commercial zone.
Mr. Smith responded that his response was that the proposal
for the study area would include his property, as well as the
other areas and was something that could be considered, but
the goal in this process was to give people exactly what they
had under the county and while he had an argument for a
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different land use, perhaps the appropriate use would not be
a neighborhood commercial, but office professional because of '
Palm Desert ' s differing standards. He indicated that it was �
something that could be reviewed.
Commissioner Richards stated that he did not want to make any
changes at this time, but felt it should be placed into the
study zone.
MR. CARL BERG, 42-905 Texas Avenue in Palm Desert Country
Club, stated that he was chairman of the County Service
Area 26 and he asked what would happen to the county
service area after annexation. He was in the process of
getting street sweeping paid for by the homeowners and
installing 21 new street lights paid by the county
service area and asked what would happen to those
improvements.
Mr. Diaz stated that it wouldn' t change it and informed Mr.
Berg that the services currently offered by the city was
street sweeping at no additional cos t, but street lights would
come under a lighting assessment district which would remain
the same and paid by the residents. The annexed area would
be entitled to whatever services were currently provided in
Palm Desert, but additional services could be taxed or fees
paid as Mr. Berg indicated. Mr. Berg asked how often the city ,,,�
sweeps and Mr. Holtz stated that it would be every two weeks
for residential areas and more often for business areas.
MR. RAY HILL, 42-333 Washington, stated that he hand
delivered a letter to the city manager' s office. He
expressed a concern that a half acre of his property was
R-1 and historically, when he purchased his property in
1975 there had been a rezoning in the county for an
apartment complex which included all of that area, as
well as the apartments and the location of Don O' s
Restaurant. He stated that the subdivision to the west
of the property was contiguous and there were apartments
and condos to the north of the R-1 . He wished that
commission would consider that further.
Chairperson Whitlock closed the public testimony.
Commissioner Richards stated that a place that had been called
Palm Desert Country Club should be in Palm Desert and welcomed
them into the city. He assured the ones with concerns that
the city was positively creative when dealing with issues and
was in favor of the annexation.
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Commissioner Erwood stated that he also was in favor of the
annexation and told the residents that owried horses that the
�"` city had established a trails committee to discuss goals for
hiking, biking and horse trails and asked them for input for
the trails committee. He also welcomed them to the city.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Commissioner Erwood,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Carried 4-0-1
( Commissioner Jonathan abstained) .
Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Commissioner Erwood,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1499, recommending
approval of C/Z 91-1 to city council . Carried 4-0-1
(Commissioner Jonathan abstained) .
Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Commissioner Erwood,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Carried 4-0-1
(Commissioner Jonathan abstained) .
Moved by Commissioner powns, seconded by Commissioner Erwood,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1500, recommending
approval of GPA 91-1 to city council . Carried 4-0-1
(Commissioner Jonathan abstained) .
�VIII. MISCELLANEOUS
A. Westinghouse Casita Units
Mr. Diaz explained that this item was for informational
purposes only. He indicated that Westinghouse would be
building casita units instead of single family detached
dwellings as originally proposed. Commission concurred.
He stated that no commission action was required.
B. Refreshment Center at Palms to Pines Chevron/Convenience
Store Determination
Mr, Diaz reviewed the previous remodel approval and
indicated that it was commission' s intent to allow a
small area for customer sales. He stated that the
applicant was proposing to put in some soda pop and snack
machines for customer convenience and felt this was
consistent with the intent of the original approval . He
also noted that there would be no signs allowed.
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Commission unanimously concurred. No action was
required. �
IX. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None.
X. COMMENTS
l . Commissioner powns commented that the annexation hearing
went well .
2. Commissioner Richards indicated that he had occasion to
visit the ARCO station recently and reminded commission
and staff that when ARCO was approved, the restrooms were
to be for public use. He said that when he was there,
no public use was allowed. He requested that staff
investigate this. Mr. Diaz stated that he would call Mr.
Yamasaki.
3. Commissioner Richards, commission and staff discussed the
county property up in the Cahuilla Hills area south of
the city arid access restrictions that were being imposed
by the county and possible future problems to the city wrrr
because of the stormwater channel construction.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner_ Downs, seconded by Chairperson Whitlock,
adjourning the meeting. Carried 5-0. The meeting adj urned
at 9 :35 p.m.
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