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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY - FEBRUARY 2, 1993
7 :00 P.M. - CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE
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I . CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Spiegel called the meeting to order at 7 : 00 p.m.
II . PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Cox led in the pledge of allegiance.
III . ROLL CALL
Members Present: Bob Spiegel, Chairman
Diane Cox
Sabby Jonathan
Carol Whitlock
Members Absent: None
(Mr. Diaz noted there was still one vacancy on the
commission)
Staff Present: Ray Diaz Jeff Winklepleck
Bob Hargreaves Joe Gaugush
'"� Phil Drell Tonya Monroe
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Consideration of the January 19, 1993 meeting minutes .
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by Commissioner
Jonathan, approving the January 19 , 1993 minutes as
submitted. Carried 4-0 .
V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION
Mr. Diaz summarized pertinent actions of the January 28, 1993
city council meeting.
VI . CONSENT CALENDAR
None.
Chairman Spiegel suggested that commission consider Item VIII
Miscellaneous prior to the public hearing items . Commission
concurred.
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VIII . MISCELLANEOUS rr
A. RESOLUTION SELECTING BOUNDARIES OF PROJECT AREA NO. 4
AND APPROVING PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR SUBJECT PROJECT AREA.
Mr. Diaz explained that this resolution would be to select
boundaries for Project Area No. 4 and approve the preliminary
plan. He noted that the city was in the process of annexing
the Palm Desert Country Club area and had completed the
fiscal impact report. One concern of prezoning the area was
to ensure that the area would not create an undue fiscal
impact on the City of Palm Desert. One way to do this was to
establish a redevelopment project area. Mr. Diaz indicated
that Mr. Dave Yrigoyen was present to answer any questions .
He stressed that the purpose of the plan was to identify the
project area.
Chairman Spiegel asked Mr. Yrigoyen to address the
commission.
MR. DAVE YRIGOYEN stated that development law required
that this come before planning commission prior to going
before city council . He said that h� was present to
answer questions .
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Mr. Diaz indicated that the specific plan would come before
commission for public hearing--this procedure was to
establish the project area, which included all of Palm Desert
Country Club.
Chairman Spiegel noted that many streets in the area did not
comply with Palm Desert ' s standards for streets, sewers,
gutters, etc . He asked how that would be handled. Mr. Diaz
indicated that was one mission that the redevelopment plan
would take care of if zt was adopted and the project area
established. Streets would meet city standards in terms of
curbs and gutters and street widths . He said some standards
might have to be modified because some streets had rolled
curbs instead of straight curbs . Repaving and resurfacing
were also goals of the redevelopment project plan. He said
that when the plan came before the commission for hearing,
the commission would be informed of how the money would be
spent, when it would be spent, etc. That was the intent of
the plan--to take care of some of these problems .
Chairman Spiegel asked if the residents in the area would be
given an opportunity to voice their opinion before the plan
was finalized. Mr. Diaz replied yes . Mr. Yrigoyen stated
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� that everyone within the boundary would be notified by
certified mail .
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by Commissioner Cox,
adopting the findings as presented by staff . Carried 3-0-1
(Commissioner Jonathan abstained) .
Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by Commissioner Cox,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1603,
recommending to city council Project Area No. 4 boundaries
and a preliminary plan. Carried 3-0-1 (Commissioner Jonathan
abstained) .
VII . PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Case No. TT 27692 - D & F DEVELOPMENT, Applicant
Request for approval of a 23 lot single
family zero lot line subdivision
implementing conditions of PP 92-2 on
2 . 5 acres at the southwest corner of
Portola Avenue and Santa Rosa Way.
� Project was previously assessed for
purposes of CEQA and a Negative
Declaration of Environmental Impact
approved in connection with TT 25987 .
Mr. Drell noted that this case involved a precise plan that
the commission approved last year. The applicant did not
feel apartments were appropriate right now and was proposing
a single family development at a lower density. He said the
plan conformed to the subdivision ordinance. One issue at
the architectural commission meeting was the views from
second story windows into yards--that was addressed in
community development condition no. 9 , which should have the
following words added, "or architecturally screened to
prevent views to adjacent yards . " This could be accomplished
through obscured glass, or screen walls . Otherwise, the
conditions would be implemented from the previously approved
plan.
Commissioner Cox expressed concern about the traffic . The
corner of Fred Waring and Portola was very busy and Santa
Rosa was very close to Fred Waring. With the additional 23
families, she wanted to know if the traffic impact had been
addressed. Mr. Drell indicated that the level of service on
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Santa Rosa was very low. The site was coming in with fewer r1
units than normal conditions . He said that at some point
Portola would have to be widened and this project was
dedicating land to that effort. He felt that if there was a
problem at the intersection, it was not because of this
project and did not think it would be worsened by this
project.
Commissioner Cox asked if traffic was addressed with the
original project. Mr. Drell replied yes, to that same
extent. Mr. Gaugush stated that specific mitigation measures
were not applied because it was not felt there would be
substantial increases in traffic volume associated with this
low level development. There was on-going programs to
improve intersection capacity throughout the community and
alterations had been done to striping to prohibit movements
in significant conflict at Goleta, just north of the
intersection. He stated that specifically putting a burden
on this particular development for corrective measures to
existing conditions was not appropriate. The applicant would
be paying into the traffic uniform mitigation fee for valley-
wide regional improvements and for single family homes the
contribution would be approximately $800 per unit.
Commissioner Jonathan asked what staff was asking the �
commission to approve specifically. Mr. Drell stated that
the applicant received approval of a precise plan with
elevations and conceptual approval, but they had not done the
engineering. A condition of the precise plan was that the
applicant would have to receive approval for a map and the
proposal included the engineering and precise design in terms
of the roads, utilities, etc. , that had to be done to
implement the precise plan for the single family homes . Mr.
Drell felt that because they had a unique product, the
applicant wanted to receive approval before hiring an
engineer to do the technical work. Commissioner Jonathan
asked if there were any substantial changes made,
particularly related to the location of the two story units
and the direction the units face, as well as the placement of
the second story windows . He noted that this came back to
commission a second time for a reconfiguration to ameliorate
the concerns of the commission. Mr. Drell affirmed that
those items were still in place and had been addressed.
Chairman Spiegel opened the public testimony and asked the
applicant to address the commission.
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� MR. FRANZ TIERRE, one of the owners, 46-333 Burroweed in
Palm Desert, stated that he was present to answer any
questions . He noted that one of the things they wanted
to do was to eliminate a condition that was agreed to on
the previous plan. Condition No. 16 of the original
approval to underground or enclose the storm drain along
about one third along the southern part of the property.
Mr. Drell clarified that because the public works department
stated that all conditions of the original approval were part
of this approval , condition no. 16 of the original resolution
was a condition. Mr. Drell read the condition, but noted
that it had since been determined that the drainage easement
was outside of the property. When the actual technical work
was done with the survey, the drainage easement was not on
this property, nor did it drain to that property. It
actually drained to the cul-de-sac.
Mr. Tierre concurred and explained that one condition
required a masonry wall along that property line. Their
drainage all went the other way. That was their only
request and he felt this was an excellent development
for the area.
""' Mr. Gaugush concurred with the deletion of condition no. 16 .
Chairman Spieqel asked if anyone wished to address the
commission in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the project.
MR. GILL BRAUDER, Advanced Engineering Group, stated
that he was present to answer technical questions the
commission might have.
MR. DOUG WALKER, owner of a house at the corner of San
Jose and Catalina, asked for clarification of what could
be allowed under the R-2 zoning. He thought R-2 zoning
allowed duplexes and was concerned about density. He
noted that the area from Catalina south on San Jose were
single family dwellings and noted that the proposed
project would be about double the density as the
adjoining area.
Mr. Drell explained that the R-2 zoned density ranged from
one unit per 7, 000 square feet to one unit per 4 , 000 square
feet. One unit per 4 , 000 square feet was approximately 11
units per acre. He indicated this project was on Santa Rosa
and Santa Rosa predominantly consisted of apartments . The
line was on the back of this property, which was to Catalina,
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and those were predominantly singie family uses . He rl
explained that under the R-2 zone, this site would be
entitled to 27 units for two and a half acres, but the
applicant was proposing to build only 23 units . In deference
to the adjacent single family and the lower density single
family units on Catalina, the R-2 zone required that two
story units had to transition to one story within 125 feet of
that one story line. That was what this project was doing.
It faced Santa Rosa, which was a multi-family street,
therefore it had two story units facing Santa Rosa. Going
toward Catalina it was one story. The project density was
less than what the R-2 zone would allow.
Mr. Walker asked about the major purpose of the housing
once it was built. He asked if it was for the general
public for people to own their individual homes , or if
it was designed for seniors, or low income people.
Mr. Drell stated that it was designed as a project for the
general public. By nature of Santa Rosa, it was not going to
be high income. The applicant would have to make it as
moderate income as possible for the project to be marketable.
Mr. Walker asked if the project was designed
specifically as one of the state mandated or encouraged r/
low income housing developments .
Mr. Drell answered that there had been no discussions,
associations or agreements with the city relative to any
assistance or subsidies . He noted that this project would be
on a street where 95$ of the residents would fall within the
low or very low income range, but was not designed as
subsidized low income housing.
Mr. Diaz stated that staff could not guarantee what the
income level of this project would be; that would depend on
the free enterprise, capitalistic system. There were no city
or redevelopment agency funds going to this project.
MRS. WALKER addressed the commission and stated that she
was concerned about drainage; they owned the lot on the
corner of Catalina and San Jose and they were assessed
a fee for streets and sewers . They had to dedicate
about one quarter of their land to the city for streets
on the San Jose side. She said that the way the cul-de-
sac was designed, it drained out the north end of San
Jose right into where this project was going in. She
noted that Mr. Tierre asked not to have to deal with
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� that water and wanted to know where that water would go
if it did not go into this project.
Mr. Gaugush replied that the water would continue to go where
it went today--through the existing open drainage structure
which started at the end of the cul-de-sac on San Jose and
terminated on Portola.
Commissioner Jonathan asked if Mrs . Walker was experiencing
drainage problems there; she replied no, she was just
concerned.
Mrs . Walker replied no, that she was just concerned
because the notice they received the first time they had
heard about what would be done on the property and knew
a preschool was previously proposed for that land, but
was rejected.
Mr. Drell stated that a 27 unit condo project was approved on
the property about two years ago.
Commissioner Jonathan noted that the preschool in that area
was rejected because of objections from area residents .
`r Mrs . Walker said she was also concerned about traffic;
the intersection of Portola and Fred Waring was very
busy. She indicated that she works at C.O.D. and takes
her children to school at Palm Desert Middle School , so
she goes through that intersection daily. The block
between Santa Rosa and Fred Waring was only two houses
deep and with the left turn lane going north on Portola,
that left turn lane was often full back to Santa Rosa,
so she did not feel that putting 23 additional houses
would help that situation. She felt the traffic should
be studied further.
Mr. Drell stated that the fact that a current problem might
exist did not deprive this property owner from using his
property unless he inordinantly contributed to the problem.
Commissioner Jonathan asked about a right egress only. Mr.
Drell indicated that this would require Santa Rosa Avenue to
be right-turn only. Mr. Diaz felt that part of the problem
with a right-turn only from Santa Rosa was that unless there
was a median installed, there was no way to enforce it. He
felt everyone agreed there was a problem and that was the
Measure A TUMF fee was established, which required the
development to make their dedications as well as pay the
Transportation Uniform Mitigation Fee. In terms of any nexus
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requirements or connections between the traffic generated by ,�
this project and public needs, they were meeting those
generated needs . He said that hopefully when all the money
had been generated from Measure A the problems could be
solved.
Mr. Tierre said that he was not sure if they would be in
the category for first time home buyers or not, because
the home would not be under $100, 000 . He felt that if
everything went as planned their sales prices would be
between $120, 000 and $135, 000 . He also hoped to be able
to attract retirees that liked the area and
neighborhood. Mr. Tierre indicated there had been some
support for the child care center, but the proprietor
wanted to run it 24 hours per day. He said that his
project would be beneficial to property values in the
area.
Chairman Spiegel closed the public testimony and asked for
comments from the commission.
Commissioner Whitlock said that she would move for approval .
Commissioner Jonathan seconded the motion, but stated that he
recognized the existing traffic problem. He did not suggest �
there was a nexus or that this developer should bear the
financial burden for resolving this problem, but asked that
staff review that intersection to see if there might be a
simple interim solution and asked public works to address
that issue at a future meeting. He noted that the city had
been successful with using plastic pylons in the past ( i .e.
Country Club at Lucky' s shopping center) . Mr. Gaugush said
they would look into the matter.
Chairman Spiegel agreed that the project would be an asset to
the area and felt if the left-hand lane on Portola could be
lengthened in any way, it would be an advantage . He noted
that when Cook Street reopened it might take some of the
traffic off Portola. Mr. Diaz said that the public works
department would look into extending the left-hand turn lane
and would come back at the next meeting with pros and cons .
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by Commissioner
Jonathan, adopting the findings as presented by staff .
Carried 4-0.
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••. Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by Commissioner
Jonathan, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1604 ,
approving TT 27692, subject to conditions as amended.
Carried 4-0 .
B. Case No. RV 91-5 - CITY OF PALM DESERT, Applicant
Request for revocation of an approval to
park a trailer in the front yard area on
private property at 74-691 Candlewood
Street.
Mr. Diaz distributed photographs of the property and
explained that the conditions of approval to mitigate the
trailer storage through landscaping and fencing had not been
met . Staff recommended revocation of the permit . He noted
there were letters sent to the applicant which were provided
with the staff report, and one letter of opposition had been
received.
Chairman Spiegel opened the public testimony and asked if Mr.
Barboza wished to address the commission.
� MR. BARBOZA said that approximately five months ago he
was before the planning commission requesting permission
to park an RV in the front yard of his property. He was
granted that permission after three or four visits and
a complete layout was done. He said he had not seen
staff ' s photographs, but he had a few of his own, which
he would show commission. Mr. Barboza indicated that at
the time of approval it was agreed upon with the
drawings that a hedge would be done with oleanders in
order to block the view of the trailer where it was
sitting. Prior to that the trailer was sitting at a
vertical angle to the street, but a horizontal angle was
requested. That required taking out quite a few plants,
redoing sprinkler systems--the whole thing, which he did
and which he said his pictures proved. He said that it
seemed that someone had the impression that oleanders
would grow to a six foot height within a four or five
month period. He stated that he believed, and he had
everything on paper, that he had complied with
everything that he agreed to from day one. There was
nothing that he had received or that was discussed at
the planning commission that gave him a time limit as to
how high the landscaping had to be, a completion date or
anything else. As far as nothing being done, he stated
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that his photographs showed that he started the project. �
He was not happy with the way it was turning out
himself, because he did not feel the oleanders would do
the job, plus it did not give him the security from
vandalism for his property, so he took the initiative
and hired a tree company out of Palm Springs to come in
and remove trees from his property. He said he had a
permit from Palm Desert to put up a six foot cement
block fence. He paid to have trees removed and was in
the process of putting up a block fence to put the
trailer between the block fence and his home. He
distributed the pictures and fence permit paperwork to
the commission for review. He indicated that one reason
he did not get back to Mr. Diaz when he called was
because he was out of town, and he also did not think
the problem should be discussed on a one-to-one basis .
He wanted to bring the problem to a public forum for
several reasons . He stated that he had a problem with
an individual who was an employee of the city who was on
the staff of the code enforcement department. He said
this went back several years . He indicated that over
seven years ago when he purchased this property there
were no gutters or sidewalks . After purchasing the
property and moving into the house approximately one
year went by and the curbs were put in on Candlewood. �■r
At that time he approached members of the city staff in
regard to the dumping of broken cement and asphalt being
used as fill along their front property lines when this
job was being done by the contractors . He received no
response, nor did his neighbors, and they all came down
in force. He said to this day they dig down 12 inches
into their yards and come up with asphalt and broken
cement. Shortly after that with this individual, the
"harassment" with regards to an RV began. He said he
had owned an RV since 1953, there had always been an RV
at this property since day one, and the code employee
started giving him a bad time as to where the RV was
being parked. Mr. Barboza said that he challenged this
code officer on it, came down to city hall and asked to
speak to the employee' s boss with photographs showing
where the RV was parked, the depth of the gravel that it
was parked on, and so on. His boss agreed 100 percent
and said that he was legal and there was nothing wrong
with it and the employee threw his pencil down on the
desk and went storming out of the office. He said that
he has had nothing but problems from this man ever
since. He stated that he was not going to go much
further because it could get involved legally. He also
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••• said that the employee on city time had personally gone
door to door requesting people to write letters against
him parking his RV on his property. He had neighbors
right now who were willing to testify in a court of law.
One told him, "that this individual told her that it
would be much easier for her and her husband and the
neighbors in future, if she would write a letter showing
her opposition to him having the trailer on his
property. " He did not believe this was the position of
a city employee.
Commissioner Jonathan stated that the purpose of the meeting
was to determine if Mr. Barboza ' s project complied with the
provisions . He sympathized with the problems Mr. Barboza was
experiencing, but indicated that the planning commission was
the wrong forum for that matter.
Mr. Barboza agreed, but stated that he wanted to bring
up the matter in a public forum in case it had to be
taken farther. He said that when the project was
completed, and he indicated it would be very shortly--
permits had been pulled for the wall--that trailer would
be between his home and a six foot block fence and over
60 feet back from the street from the curb completely
'� enclosed. He said it would "not be visible in any way,
shape, or form from the street" .
Mr. Diaz informed commission that he did not know a permit
for the block wall was taken out, but would look into it . He
recommended that the item be continued for 45 days and that
would give ample time for this to be worked out--for staff to
look into it and come back with a report in terms of the
other allegations, also. Mr. Diaz stated that staff
preferred a block wall to a hedge that was not growing and
thanked Mr. Barboza for pointing out a loop hole in not
setting up a definitive time for when the hedge had to be the
required height. He also thanked Mr. Barboza for putting up
the block wall . Staff recommended a 45 day continuance. Mr.
Diaz said i f the wall was up and the mitigation measures met,
Mr. Barboza would not be required at the next meeting--that
could be worked out.
Chairman Spiegel noted that according to the information
given to the commission a letter went to Mr. Barboza on
October 5, 1992 indicating that nothing had been done--he
asked Mr. Barboza if there was any conversation with the city
after that. Mr. Barboza replied none whatsoever--he said
that he was out of town a lot and had to take time off work
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to be at the planning commission meeting. Also, because of �
the situation he did not feel that personal one-on-one
conversation between he and Mr. Diaz would solve this
problem, nor would it give him a form of legal base. He felt
the same person who informed Mr. Diaz that nothing had been
done was well aware of the wall permit and of the trees being
removed. He said the day the tree company was there they
wanted to know what was special because this city employee
had made five passes in front of the house within a two-hour
period. The employee never stopped, but was well aware of
what was happening. He did have conversations with him, but
not with Mr. Diaz .
Commissioner Cox asked when Mr. Barboza pulled the permit for
the wall . Mr. Barboza replied on January 28, 1993 . Mr.
Barboza said that the reason for delaying the wall was
because it was a common wall with the neighbor and he had to
wait for them before proceeding with this . Mr. Barboza got
his photographs back from the commission and said that he
would be getting together with Mr. Diaz on the other matter.
Chairman Spiegel asked if anyone wished to address the
commission in FAVOR or OPPOSITION. There was no one .
It was moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by r/
Commissioner Cox, to continue this matter 45 days .
Commissioner Jonathan noted that this was before the
commission in May of 1992; a letter went to the applicant on
October 5, 1992 with no response, a letter went out on
January 7 , 1993 with no response, and now the commission was
being presented with plans to take care of things . There
were concerned residents, several who had tried to get this
situation rectified. Since this ordinance which brings RV' s
before the commission was implemented, he felt that 90
percent of the commission' s time on this issue and had been
with this particular application. He felt that 30 days was
sufficient time and if the problem was not completely
resolved and behind them at that point, the planning
commission should vote to revoke the permit. He recommended
a 30 day continuance. He felt that was plenty of time to get
the wall in place since the permit had already been pulled.
Mr. Barboza agreed with Commissioner Jonathan that 30
days was more than ample and agreed with him 100
percent. He said that he wanted to get things going and
completed also.
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r•• Mr. Diaz asked for a recommendation on the part of the
commission to ask staff to look at the entire ordinance and
see if it really should be before the planning commission at
all and he could come back with a report on the whole RV
issue. Chairman Spiegel said that would be fine.
Commissioners Whitlock and Cox amended their motion to be for
a 30 day continuance.
Action•
Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by Commissioner Cox,
continuing RV 91-5 one month, to March 2, 1993, by minute
motion. Carried 4-0 .
C. Case No. CUP 92-3 A - GEORGE BUONO, Applicant
Request for approval of an amendment to
a conditional use permit to allow a
3, 000 square foot mini-market at 74-991
Avenue 42 in the S. I . ( service
industrial ) zone.
Mr. Winklepleck informed staff that it was actually a 2 , 000
� square foot mini-mart as opposed to a 3, 000 square foot mini-
mart which was what was on the application. He said the
original conditional use permit approved a 2 , 800 square foot
restaurant on May 5, 1992 . The applicant wanted to replace
that approval with a 2, 000 square foot mini-mart. The mini-
mart at this location would not pose a negative impact with
regards to parking or on the tenants in the area . The
previously approved restaurant required 24 parking spaces and
the mini-mart would only require 15 . Hours of operation
would be from 5 : 00 a .m. to 10 : 00 p.m. and had been looked at
by the sheriff 's department--they concur and the conditions
of approval reflected this . Mr. Winklepleck noted that both
the sheriff ' s department and fire marshal reviewed the
project. He recommended approval of the conditional use
permit amendment, subject to the conditions of approval .
Chairman Spiegel noted that the memo from Deputy Conley did
not read like an approval; Mr. Winklepleck stated that the
way it was presented to staff was that it was more of a
suggestion as opposed to definite conditions of approval . He
said that if the commission wished to adopt some of the
suggestions the commission could make them conditions of
approval . Chairman Spiegel asked about the closing time and
use of video equipment. Mr. Winklepleck noted that once the
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area businesses were closed, the mini-market might determine �
that it should close earlier, but staff was recommending
10 : 00 p.m. .
Mr. Diaz indicated the letter said to restrict the business
to 10 :00 p.m. , which was staff ' s recommendation. If the
commission wished, staff could place a condition that use of
video cameras would be required, but that had not been done
before. Staff had a concern that video cameras were a "two-
edged sword" in terms of security versus invasion of privacy.
Ne said there was less of a problem with invasion of privacy
in a mini-mart, but staff was hesitant to require them. Mr.
Diaz felt that the applicant would take necessary steps for
their own secur�ty.
Chairman Spiegel asked why planning staff and the crime
prevention officer did not get together in advance regarding
these issues . He did not know if the applicant needed a
video camera or not. Mr. Diaz stated that the crime
prevention officer could be at the next meeting to tell the
commission what he reviews . At this point staff was hesitant
to require that someone install a video camera. He did not
have a problem recommending that they look at it, but
requiring it was something else. He said he had a hunch that
the mini-mart would probably be closed by 8 : 00 p.m. after the •�►
businesses were closed, but understood the chairman' s
concerns .
Commissioner Cox said that she had a real issue with the
10: 00 p.m. closing time. She indicated that the whole Cook
Street area closed earlier and asked who would be using it at
that later hour. She noted that during the day it would
probably be very busy, but after 6 : 00 or 7 : 00 p.m. it would
not make sense to be open. Mr. Diaz suggested that the
applicant address that issue and reminded commission that any
time a conditional use permit was approved, the city had a
right to bring that project back and further restrict the
hours of operation if there was a problem.
Chairman Spiegel o ened the public testimony and asked the
applicant to address the commission.
MR. MIKE OMAN, representing Mr. Buono, stated that they
had compliance from the proprietor of the business, the
merchant opening the store, that he agreed to restrict
his business hours to 10 : 00 p.m. and 10 : 00 p.m. would
only be his hours on Friday and Saturday nights . He
would probably close at 8: 00 or 9 : 00 p.m. during the
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�•► week and probably at 7 : 00 p.m. on Sundays . The
proprietor also agreed that he would be busy during the
daylight hours because it was a business type of area
and that was where he expected to draw people from. He
thought the video camera was a good idea and had already
budgeted for it for his own security. A concern that
Mr. Oman wanted to address was the idea of gates--that
was something that would cause a problem for Mr. Buono
in that parking on the front of the property would be
necessary for the mini-market. The new parking lot he
put in was very nice and he did not feel it would be a
place of loitering or congregation at night. He said
that the hours of operation were completely acceptable
to the landlord and tenant.
Commissioner Cox asked if there would be gasoline service;
Mr. Oman replied no.
Chairman Spiegel asked why the applicant decided against the
restaurant; Mr. Oman stated that the restaurant they came to
the commission with was Niccolino' s and they were excited
about it because there were not a lot of places for people to
eat in that area. As it turned out, for personal reasons and
the economy they did not go forward. He felt the mini-market
'� was also an excellent idea for that area and that was what
they were now pursuing. He noted they were reducing the
2, 800 foot restaurant to a 2 ,000 square foot mini-market.
Chairman Spiegel asked if anyone wished to address the
commission in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the project. There was
no one and the public testimony was closed.
Commissioner Whitlock felt the conditional use permit was
acceptable and moved for approval .
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by Chairman Spiegel ,
adopting the findings as presented by staff . Carried 3-0-1
(Commissioner Jonathan abstained) .
Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by Chairman Spiegel ,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1605, approving
CUP 92-3 A, subject to conditions . Carried 3-0-1
(Commissioner Jonathan abstained) .
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D. Case No. TT 27709 - WESTINGHOUSE DESERT COMMUNITIES, �
Applicant
Request for approval of a 51 lot single
family subdivision to supersede Tract
27228 within Bighorn Golf Club, located
southwest of Cahuilla Way and Highway
74 .
Mr. Joy explained that the tract map was a reconfiguration of
a previously recorded map to utilize the land better and tie-
in the circulation in a more efficient manner. He felt this
helped the whole project and recommended approval .
Commissioner Jonathan noted there was a decrease in lot sizes
in the staff report from 11, 000 to 9 ,500 and asked if a
variance was required. Mr. Joy replied no, that minimum lot
sizes in Palm Desert were 8, 000 square feet and he reviewed
the original Bella Vista development agreement requirements .
Commissioner Jonathan asked about the reduction in setbacks
listed under the conditions of approval . He noted that a
chart was usually included in the staff report on how the
proposal compares to code. Mr. Joy stated that they were in
line with what the city required on planned residential
project like this one; he noted that this project compared �
better to a normal R-1 project in that there was a golf
course completely surrounding the project, so there was ample
open space. Commissioner Jonathan said that he was concerned
about the distance between units . Mr. Joy stated that side
yard setbacks were the same as for R-1 8 , 000 zone.
Commissioner Jonathan asked for and received specific
setbacks : front setbacks were 20 feet for straight driveways
and 14 feet for side entry garages; rear setbacks were 18
feet to the golf course; sides were 14 feet total and five
feet minimum, which was the city standard. Mr. Joy clarified
that for lots between 10, 000 and 20, 000 square feet, side
yard setbacks were 20 feet total . He said that the maximum
height was in compliance and the development agreement
allowed 18 feet, which was the standard at that time.
Commissioner Jonathan noted that the only exception to the
setback standard was the 14 feet for the side entry garage;
Mr. Joy concurred.
Chairman Spiegel opened the public hearing and asked the
applicant to address the commission.
MR. CARL CARDINALLI, Westinghouse Desert Communities,
stated that he was present to answer questions . He
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� noted that the 14 foot setback for the side entry
garages were deceptive because that was to the structure
itself and what they provided with the side entry garage
was a little different look from the street view and
flexibility in their streetscape.
Mr. Joy noted there was a condition from public works that
needed to be added regarding National Pollutant Discharge
Elimination System. The applicant was in concurrence with
the condition.
Chairman Spiegel asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposal . There was no one and the public
testimony was closed.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Commissioner
Whitlock, adopting the findings as presented by staff .
Carried 4-0 .
Moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Commissioner
Whitlock, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1606 ,
approving TT 27709, subject to conditions as amended.
Carried 4-0 .
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E. Case Nos . PM 27563, TT 27570, CUP 88-12 Amendment No. 1
- MARRIOTT OWNERSHIP RESORTS, INC. , Applicant
Request for approval of the subdivision
of 160 acres into two parcels, one of
which further subdivided into 288 two
story condominium timeshare units with a
sales building, located north of Hovley
Lane between Cook Street and Portola
Avenue.
Mr. Joy indicated that this project would add 288 units to
their existing timeshare operation. He said this was
practically identical to the previously approved project.
They were transforming the half acre lots into the timeshare
units . He said that one letter in opposition was received
and it was from a resident in Monterey Country Club, which
would be approximately a half a mile away. He stated that
the same type of mitigation fees would be imposed. Staff
recommended approval .
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Commissioner Jonathan said there was a computatian for a r
maximum number of units allowable for a project and the staf f
report indicated that the applicant provided staff with that
computation and wanted to confirm that staff checked that
information. Mr. Joy xeplied that the computations were
correct.
Chairman Spiegel stated that he was new to the commission
since the timeshare was originally approved. He asked about
the requirements for timeshare and in which zones they were
allowed. He noted that his experience with timeshare
operations was not positive and was concerned. Mr. Diaz
stated that when he came to the city in 1980, timeshare was
a big issue. The ordinance that was passed at that time
allowed timeshare units in commercial zones and was very
successful because no one applied. Years later the Marriott,
in the planned residential zone, asked for timeshare units
and in order for timeshare units to be in the planned
residential zone, it was required that they had to be in
conjunction with a 500 room resort hotel with an 18 hole
championship golf cours�. This would not preclude someone
else from coming in with timeshare if they wanted to go in
the commercial zone and met those requirements . He did not
feel that the city would be challenged on it and the
ordinance went through the city attorney' s office. There �
were many hearings on this issue. If someone wanted to come
in with timeshare, the ordinance says it must be in
conjunction with the 500 room hotel and 18 hole championship
golf course.
Chairman Spiegel opened the public testimony and asked the
applicant to address the commission.
MR. BRENT FARON, Marriott Resorts representative from
Lakeland, Florida, said that they were pleased with the
proposed plans . He indicated that they had been
successful to date and tried to develop everything at
greater standards than required by industry to make a
difference. He invited Chairman Spiegel to look at
their marketing techniques . He stated that their
architect, landscape planner, and engineer were present
to answer any questions .
Chairman Spiegel noted that they had been successful and he
had read in Barron' s that it was one of the more successful
parts of Marriott the past couple of years . He asked how
resales were doing. Mr. Faron stated that the Marriott had
been the most successful resale company in the timeshare
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r• industry and Iast year alone they had $13 million in resa2e
timeshare sales . He said their owners had received very
satisfactory results . He did not know the exact number for
Palm Desert, but resales here had not been a problem. He
indicated they approached timeshare by striving for the
highest value.
Commissioner Whitlock asked if the architecture and design
would remain the same as the original buildings in terms of
color schemes and floor plans . Mr. Faron indicated they were
changing the architectural concept and were going to cluster
units, so it would be a little different.
Chairman Spiegel asked if anyone wished to address the
commission in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposal . There was
no one and the public testimony was closed.
Mr. Joy noted that the condition from public works regarding
the National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System also
needed to be added to this case.
Commissioner Whitlock said that having been znvolved with the
original timeshare project and having seen the project, the
interiors, and having met some of the guests who had
'� purchased timeshare units, she would move for approval .
Commissioner Jonathan asked if there were any additional
points of ingress or egress; Mr. Gaugush replied no.
Commissioner Jonathan asked if this process created two
parcels; Mr. Joy indicated that the previous plan approved a
precise plan for the expanded area to Hovley Lane and all of
the golf courses, and part of that was just a master plan for
the entire project. This separated out one area on the map
for future approval of 120 units, which was what the second
parcel was separating out. Commissioner Jonathan stated that
he would second the motion.
Chairman Spiegel asked if the current owners of the timeshare
units were notified of the hearing; Mr. Joy replied no, they
were not within 300 feet of this project.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by Commissioner
Jonathan, adopting the findings as presented by staff .
Carried 4-0 .
Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by Commissioner
Jonathan, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1607 ,
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approving PM 27563, TT 27570, AND CUP 88-12 Amendment No. 1 , ri
subject to conditions as amended. Carried 4-0 .
IX. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None.
X. COMMENTS
Commissioner Cox expressed concern about vacant sites on E1
Paseo ( i .e. Security Pacific Bank Building) and asked if the
redevelopment agency could look into the matter. Mr. Diaz
stated that staff would look into it and noted that the
property was owned by Bank of America and was on the market
to sell . He indicated that he would have a representative of
the redevelopment agency at the next meeting to address this
issue.
Commissioner Cox noted that on E1 Paseo there was a feeling
of warmth and welcome during the holidays with the lit palm
trees . She stated that traveling eastward, there were not
many trees and some trees had been removed. She also
indicated that on the Ahmanson project, there were palm trees .r
that appeared to be dying and asked if it would be possible
to transplant those trees to tie-in both ends of E1 Paseo.
Mr. Diaz stated that staff would look into that.
Chairman Spiegel stated that he spoke with Mr. Ted Lennon,
who was requesting to meet with the planning commission prior
to bringing his project to them. Chairman Spiegel felt that
it would be imperative that representatives from Ironwood
Country Club be present at that study session and noted that
he had received one letter in opposition to the project from
a Mr. and Mrs . Kelly. He asked if something could be done
prior to the next meeting. Mr. Diaz recommended that he
contact Mr. Lennon and indicate that yes, there would be a
study session, but a representative from the Master
Association of Ironwood would be present and if
representatives from the other Ironwood Associations wanted
to be present, it was an open session, but would be stressed
that it was not a public hearing. The public hearing would
be held at a later date. He felt that Mr. Lennon wanted to
present his proposal to determine commission' s concerns and
possibly resolve them prior to the public hearing. There
would be a public hearing in which public testimony would be
taken and Mr. Lennon was not asking for a vote, just
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r•+ commission concerns . Mr. Diaz indicated that Mr. Lennon had
been working with the Living Desert and Ironwood residents .
Mr. Diaz indicated that Mr. Lennon received approval from
Indian Wells for 250 units and any units built in Palm Desert
would be deducted from the 250 units in Indian Wells .
Commission concurred with a study session on February 16 .
Chairman Spiegel recommended that Walmart and Mr. Lennon ' s
project not be considered at the same meeting. Commission
concurred. After discussion on the issue of a study session
for the Walmart project, commission determined that a study
session was not needed--the matter would be discussed fully
at the public hearing. Chairman Spiegel felt that as long as
all the facts were included in the staff report ( i .e. amount
of traffic being generated, etc . ) there was no need for a
study session because the commission was familiar with the
general appearance of Walmart stores . Commission concurred.
Staff noted that Walmart representatives had been meeting
with area residents .
Mr. Diaz stated that he received a call from Councilmember
Crites , who was part of the two-member council subcommittee
that would be interviewing for the planning commission
vacancy and he wanted to know if there were any questions the
'� commission might want to have asked of a perspective planning
commissioner. Commission indicated that a viable question to
add to Mr. Diaz ' s list would be, "What future issues would
you not be able to vote on, or on which you feel you would
have to abstain ( i .e. potential conflicts of interest) ?"
XI . ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by Commissioner Cox,
adjourning the meeting to February 16, 1993 by minute motion.
Carried 4-0 . The meeting was adjourned at 8 : 45 .
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RAM N A. DIAZ, c ary
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ROBERT A. SPIEGE ,.
Palm Desert Planning- Commission
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