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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING
TUESDAY - SEPTEMBER 6, 1994
7 :00 P.M. - CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE
I . CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Spiegel called the meeting to order at 7 : 00 p.m.
II . PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Jonathan led in the pledge of allegiance.
III . ROLL CALL
Members Present: Bob Spiegel, Chairperson
Paul Beaty
Sabby Jonathan
Carol Whitlock
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Ramon Diaz Dick Folkers
Marshall Rudolph Tonya Monroe
Steve Smith
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Consideration of the July 19 , 1994 meeting minutes .
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by Commissioner
Jonathan, approving the July 19, 1994 minutes as submitted.
Carried 4-0 .
V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION:
Mr. Diaz summarized pertinent July 28 and August 25, 1994
council actions . He noted that the council needed the
commission to affirm by minute motion that as part of the
Bighorn development, when it was under the previous owner,
there was an area in the open space area that was supposed to
be identified for a water tank. The water tank was built,
however, the land should not have been included as part of
the dedication for open space. He noted the area involved a
few thousand square feet. Council approved the quit claim
deed but a determination was needed affirming it to be
consistent with the general plan by the planning commission.
He requested a minute motion by planning commission affirming
the quit claim' s consistency with the general plan.
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Action: vow
Moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Commissioner
Whitlock, affirming that the quit claim for Bighorn Country
Club was consistent with the Palm Desert General Plan by
minute motion. Carried 4-0 .
VI . ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - A
None.
VII . CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Case No. PMW 93-8 - PETER SOLOMON/PARMELEE TRUST,
Applicant
Request for approval of a lot line
adjustment to move the common lot line
between lots 50 and 52 at the southwest
corner of lot 52 , approximately 30 feet
north of recorded position within Tract
25445 .
B. Case No. PMW 94-6 - OASIS COUNTRY CLUB, Applicant
Request for approval of a parcel map
waiver to allow a lot line adjustment to
incorporate a pool area into the common
area for the homeowners association.
C. Case No. PMW 94-10 - ROBERT B. VARNER AND DAVID AND
ANDREA DOMINICK, Applicants
Request for approval of a parcel map
waiver to allow a lot line adjustment
for lots 5, 7, 8, 9 10 and 11 within the
Sunterrace development.
D. Case Nos . PP 93-5 and VAR 93-5 - DR. ROBERT REED,
Applicant
Request for approval of a one year time
extension for a 1568 square foot dental
building at 73-071 Fred Waring Drive.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by Commissioner
Beaty, adopting the consent calendar by minute motion.
Carried 4-0 .
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�r VIII. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Case No. CUP 94-12 - CHARLES MARTIN for SAINT GEORGE
ORTHODOX GREEK CHURCH, Applicant
Request for approval of a conditional
use permit to allow expansion and
remodel of the existing Saint George
Orthodox Greek Church located in the
office professional zone at the
southwest corner of Larrea and Lantana,
74-109 Larrea.
Mr. Smith reviewed the salient points of the staff report.
He noted that just before the meeting the applicant gave him
three additional letters from property owners in the area
authorizing the use of their property for parking purposes
during church services . Staff recommended that the church
provide their own parking lot in the neighborhood. Based on
the calculations for the size of the sanctuary with 205
seats, the ordinance would require 68 parking spaces . Staff
was not including a requirement for the kitchen or dining
facility, which was quite substantial because staff felt
there would be almost 100% cross over use of that dining
... area. The parking for the sanctuary would be adequate for
the rest of the facility. The architecture received
preliminary architectural review commission approval . Due to
the height of the dome it would have to be approved by the
city council . Staff recommended approval subject to
conditions that included the following: 1) provision of
permanent parking for the facility--the four property owners
currently allowing the use of their property during church
services all had the right to terminate the use for parking
at any time. Staff was looking for property acquisition by
the church for their own parking or at least a long term
lease; if they chose the long term lease the city would like
to review the procedure for termination; 2 ) the dome element
would go to city council for approval; and 3) a title report
to confirm placement of the building on the lot. Mr. Smith
said that with those conditions and the others listed in the
draft resolution, staff would recommend approval .
Commissioner Jonathan asked if the three additional letters/
parking agreements received tonight were the revocable kind;
Mr. Smith confirmed they were the same as those provided with
the staff report. Condition #1 would still apply.
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Chairperson Spiegel asked how staff arrived at 68 required
parking spaces . Mr. Smith explained that the ordinance
required one parking space for every three seats and the
applicant had a provision for 205 seats in their sanctuary.
Chairperson Spiegel noted that ARC granted preliminary
architectural approval; he asked what preliminary meant. Mr.
Smith noted that if the working drawings implemented what the
architectural commission had been shown so far, they would
approve the working drawings .
Commissioner Whitlock asked if any of the letters received
were from the nearby residential community; Mr. Smith noted
that Mr. Martin had a colored sketch of where the letters
came from. Commissioner Whitlock asked if the on-street
parking ran into that neighborhood. Mr. Smith replied no.
Chairperson Spiegel opened the public testimony and asked the
applicant to address the commission.
MR. CHARLES MARTIN, Architect residing in Rancho Mirage,
gave the commission the diagram showing the location of
the letters received.
Commissioner Whitlock asked if on-street parking went into
the residential area; Mr. Martin replied no. .,
Mr. Martin said that Father Tavlarides and George
Flessas, the President, were both present and would
speak on this matter. He stated that he was excited
about this project. The church building committee
included architects and engineers and he believed that
based on photos seen and how the structures were built
and small churches were done, that they had a wonderful
project. He described the proposed architecture and
noted that they hoped to save as much of the existing
structure as possible for the hall and some ancillary
uses . In the Greek Orthodox church, they could have one
service on Sunday by one priest and this church only had
one priest and was a small church. He noted the closest
church was in San Bernardino. Parking was available to
the church directly across the street where there were
approximately 100 uncovered spaces and 20-30 covered
spaces (where they did not park) ; next door was 10
spaces; and Wells Fargo had about 24 spaces . He felt
the parking was there--it had been there and that was
how the church had always operated. There were 108
members and they could now seat comfortably about 80
people. Last Sunday there were 80 people present and 30
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••. automobiles . The proposal was for 205 seats . As the
congregation grew and got closer to the 68 automobiles,
then they would use more of the parking across the
street and adjacent to them.
Commissioner Jonathan noted that the dining facility was
adjacent to the sanctuary; he asked if it was designed to be
used for overflow seating during the service. Mr. Martin
replied yes, the ceremony would not be visible, but they
could participate via audio visual . It could be used as free
seating because it would be an open hall . Commissioner
Jonathan asked what that would bring the potential capacity
to; Mr. Martin replied 410 persons .
Chairperson Spiegel noted that they were a few feet down from
the First Church of Christ; he asked if it were possible to
use any of their parking. He noted that on Highway 74 the
Episcopal and Presbyterian churches had a lot in between that
was used by both congregations . He asked if there was any
possibility of that sort of thing happening. Mr. Martin
stated that Mr. Flessas could address that issue.
Mr. Diaz asked what the odds were for the dining room being
used as seating for a service; Mr. Martin referred the answer
to Father Tavlarides .
Chairperson Spiegel asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR
or OPPOSITION to the proposal .
MR. GEORGE FLESSAS, a resident of Palm Desert, stated
that he would be pleased if they ever had 410 people in
the church, but that was a long way down the road. He
indicated he was the president of the parish council and
they were a very small parish with 108 member units and
about one third of those were part timers who lived in
other parts of the country and supported them as members
and financially. Their group of parishioners came
together and felt they could make the sacrifice, do the
work, and raise the funds to build a church/remodel
their present structure so they had a place that really
was a church. As stated earlier, this was originally a
home that had been added onto. Mr. Martin referred to
the narthex, which was more of an entryway to go into
the sanctuary. To get the seating they were talking
about they had chairs in the narthex; they also had
people seated with the choir, but in order to fill the
church they had to have people seated where they could
not even see the service or altar. He felt they were
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good neighbors and they maintained the structure and %n
landscaping very well . He also felt that the parking,
while it appeared to be an obstacle, they had
arrangements with some of the neighbors including HMS
across the street with well over 100 parking spaces .
Originally, because they knew they only needed 68
parking spaces, they just asked for part of that parking
facility. This afternoon they talked with the property
manager and he anticipated no problem in giving approval
for the entire parking area, but they had absentee
ownership and he had to contact them. He said they were
proud of their orthodox faith; they wanted a church
structure that was a church that they could worship in
and wanted a place of beauty that would enhance the
entire neighborhood. The architect said this was a
project he had really become excited about and all of
them were excited. This was a dream they had envisioned
and they had worked hard to raise a great deal of money
and they felt that their plan would enhance the beauty
of the entire neighborhood and Palm Desert. They wanted
to replicate some of the small orthodox churches seen in
the greek islands and felt they had a plan to do that.
Many of their neighbors were eager for them to start;
some of the letters had comments written on them and
they said vocally that they wanted to see the church u�r
built. While the dome was relatively high, they were
not blocking anyone' s view. There was nothing but
commercial buildings around them. He asked the
commission to strongly look upon their proposal in a
favorable way and help them to proceed to make their
dream come true.
MS . BETTY LOU RAINES, representing the Christian Science
Church, stated that they were thrilled and happy for the
church that they could go ahead with their dream. She
wanted to clarify that as far as their parking lot was
concerned, during the height of the season they fill
that and the street around them, so there would not be
any way of making a concession.
FATHER JAMES TAVLARIDES stated that he has been here for
three years and they prayed hoping the Lord would bless
them with a beautiful edifice. They were a very proud
people; they had beautiful homes and their Lord was in
a dilapidated place and when it rained it was safer
outside than inside. He felt this church would beautify
the place for the glory of God and for the
sanctification of his people.
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r.r. Chairperson Spiegel closed the public hearing and asked for
commission comments .
Commissioner Beaty said he had no problems with Sunday
services when businesses were closed, but asked if there were
services during the week. Mr. Flessas said there were brief
services in the morning during the week, but they usually
only had six to eight people attend. He noted that on Sunday
when they had 30 cars last week, there was only one car
parked across the street in the HMS building complex, which
was his own. The rest were on the street or around the
corner of the building. They do not currently have a
problem.
Commissioner Whitlock stated that she still had some concerns
about the parking situation because the church did not know
when their neighbors could change their minds, so she
concurred with staff ' s recommendation that permanent parking
was necessary, otherwise she had no problem with the
remodeling and felt it would be a beautiful addition to that
street.
Commissioner Jonathan said he would like to help them make
their dream come true, but adequate parking was needed. He
%MW noted that at least 68 spaces were needed. Also, with the
use of the dining room and 410 seats, the requirement would
be for 137 parking spaces . He said he would not be
comfortable voting approval until there was a permanent
parking solution. Regarding the height of the dome, he would
not address that issue at this point. Chairperson Spiegel
asked how Commissioner Jonathan felt about the conditions
proposed by staff in the staff report. Commissioner Jonathan
said if staff was not looking for a recommendation to council
with regard to the height of the dome, that was fine. With
regard to the acquisition of 68 parking spaces, he was not
entirely comfortable with that but in the spirit of
cooperation and moving along, he would be okay with those
conditions with an additional requirement that seating be
limited to 205 . He said he would like to add that condition.
Chairperson Spiegel also felt there was a parking problem.
He noted that if a shopping center or restaurant was being
proposed, they would have to provide parking. Rather than
hold the applicants up, he suggested approving the church
with four specific conditions : 1) the city council had to
approve the architectural plans; 2 ) that a long term
agreement be reached for 68 parking spaces; 3) applicant
provide to the city a title report that confirms that there
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are no legal encumbrances which would prohibit the alteration
of the driveway; and 4 ) seating be limited to 205
individuals . That was his recommendation.
Commissioner Jonathan stated that he would make that a
motion.
Mr. Diaz indicated that if they had access to potentially
over 100 parking spaces, he asked if there was a need to
limit the seating in the church portion if they had access to
more. Commissioner Jonathan said the other alternative was
to say that seating was limited according to the formula;
three seats for every parking space beyond 68 . Mr. Diaz said
that the only people impacted with the parking withdrawn were
the folks who would grant permission for parking and then
withdraw it. He asked if they could say to go ahead with the
205 limitation and if they could show staff that they could
provide up to those spaces to meet the formula, then they
could have that many, but if they lost the spaces , then they
would have to go back to the 205 . That gave them more to
work with. Chairperson Spiegel noted that the project had to
go to city council . If the commission delayed it here, it
would just delay their project. He asked if Commissioner
Jonathan agreed with the amendment proposed by Mr. Diaz .
Commissioner Jonathan said for permanent acquisition of .r
parking, not revocable parking that could be withdrawn. He
said he wanted a permanent agreement through either contract
or acquisition; they were putting up a permanent building and
he would hate to have that hanging on a revocable agreement.
He said that his motion stood, but corrected it to a ratio of
three seats per parking space; wherever that seating was--if
they wanted to overflow into the dining area, as long as they
had three seats per parking space that was fine. The
sanctuary portion could only hold 205 individuals .
Chairperson Spiegel noted that if they limited the number of
seats to 205, that would not be a problem for a number of
years . He suggested staying with the 205 person maximum
( i .e. 68 spaces) and if a problem arose, then they could
modify it at that point. He did not feel it would come back
to them for a long time.
Commissioner Whitlock asked for clarification that they were
limiting the seating to 205; Commission concurred.
Commissioner Whitlock seconded the motion for approval .
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Whitlock,
approving the findings as presented by staff . Carried 4-0 .
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... Moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Commissioner
Whitlock, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1659,
approving CUP 94-12 subject to conditions as amended.
Carried 4-0 .
Commissioner Beaty noted that this was a conditional use
permit and they could come back in the future for a revision.
Father Tavlarides stated that he came from Phoenix where he
was pastor for 26 years and that church increased from 260
members to 600 members . He knew here the Jewish people were
looking to find a bigger place; if they were blessed they
would not stay there, but for ten years they would use the
same facility and there would be no problems .
(Commissioner Jonathan left the meeting at this time. )
B. Case No. CUP 91-13 Amendment #1 - COLLEGE OF THE DESERT
ALUMNI ASSOCIATION, Applicant
Request for approval of an amendment to
a conditional use permit to allow
operation of the College of the Desert
Street Fair between the hours of 7 : 00
a.m. and 2 : 00 p.m. on Saturdays .
Present Saturday hours of operation are
limited to 7 : 00 a.m. to 12 : 00 p.m.
Mr. Diaz explained that the request was to increase the hours
of operation for the Street Fair on Saturdays from 12 : 00 p.m.
to 2 : 00 p.m. , which meant two additional hours . In looking
at the conditions of the conditional use permit that were
imposed when the street fair was first approved, the
situation around the region was different. Today there were
open air markets, principally the one approved by Palm
Springs, and during the hearings on that particular plan, he
recalled one member of the Palm Springs Council saying that
now people could go there instead of to the College of the
Desert. That was why the additional two hours were being
requested; to give the street fair an opportunity to be
competitive with that swap meet and others being proposed.
He felt it had been beneficial to the community; revenues for
licensing was $114, 151 . In terms of funds to the College of
the Desert, last year there was a picture in the local paper
with the College receiving $413,242 . For non-profit
organizations, they have been given free space at the street
fair; the community cooperation shown by the organization
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included the City of Hope, the YMCA, the Red Cross, the .�
Desert Empire B' nai B'rith, the American Cancer Society,
Foundation for the Retarded, and Friends of the Desert
Mountains, who had all been given free space at the street
fair and was one of the things that made this street fair a
unique operation. It was identified with the community and
the college, as opposed to other outdoor sales operations
currently being approved in the valley. In terms of sales
tax, and this was a question that did arise in earlier
discussions and during meetings on this application, the city
did receive a letter from the Board of Equalization and in
that letter they indicated that in terms of this particular
street fair and their operation, they were operating within
the codes and laws and that the board had periodic checks
that they went through not only for this operation, but for
any business and they were more than happy to check out any
suspected violations that might arise. Regarding revenue
received, the city did not feel they were losing any money on
the sales tax. It was being collected. He said another item
required of the street fair during discussions was that it
would advertise and be part of the Palm Desert Business
Community. In their last brochure, they said the street fair
was a great way to start the day and to shop Palm Desert. He
noted that they started at 7 : 00 a.m. before most stores were
open; all that was being requested was that they be allowed .r
to operate on Saturdays until 2 : 00 p.m. , two additional
hours . The criteria established for vendors at the street
fair were that first priority went to merchants or residents
of Palm Desert; secondly, that the products would not be
extensive in product duplication; thirdly, for merchants or
residents in the valley; fourth, merchants or residents
inside Riverside County; and fifth, merchants or residents
outside Riverside County. He said the applicant could
address the two additional hours . He stated that of the
$114 ,000 the Chamber of Commerce and others had established
a committee to utilize that money to be spent on citywide
merchandising, not only the Town Center, E1 Paseo and around
Highway 111, but the entire city. In terms of traffic
control, the conditions were still in place. If there were
a problem, the city could always go back to look at the
conditional use permit to resolve it. To date, there had not
been any traffic or police problems . Staff recommended
approval of the request for the COD Alumni Association to
allow the two additional hours on Saturdays .
Commissioner Whitlock asked Mr. Diaz for clarification as to
why the hours were restricted to 12 : 00 p.m. originally; Mr.
Diaz felt the reason for that was the feeling that beyond
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�... 12 : 00 p.m. it would unduly impact current merchants in the
area; that people would not shop at local stores . The
situation now was that if they don't come here at all, they
won't shop in local stores at all . On Sundays businesses
were not open. Chairperson Spiegel asked if the city council
placed that restriction; Mr. Diaz replied yes . Commissioner
Whitlock asked if everyone was happy with the additional two
hours; Mr. Diaz replied that anyone not happy could appeal
the decision. If the commission denied the request, then
those people in favor of the two hours could appeal that
decision.
Chairperson Spiegel opened the public testimony and asked the
applicant to address the commission.
MS . JUNE STEPHENS, Executive Director of the College of
the Desert Alumni Association, stated that it was a
matter of survival, not only for the street fair to keep
it in operation, but also for the college. The street
fair had become a vital part of the community for a
recreational event, but mainly for the college. It was
vital that they remain competitive. Many other street
fairs and swap meets were coming into existence; both
indoor and outdoor. The one in Palm Springs would be
'�► Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. They had given up the two
hours to try and be good neighbors with the rest of the
community, which she felt they had gone over and above
the demands placed by the city council three years ago.
In trying to be good neighbors, she was part of the
retail promotion committee and she had spent numerous
hours with the chamber of commerce and other merchants
in the Palm Desert area to try and promote the entire
Palm Desert area and to build a good relationship to
promote Palm Desert as a place that has it all : the
street fair, the Town Center, all the way out to
Washington and back again. If they did not have the
hours, she felt they would lose their vendors and in
turn they would lose their customers . She felt that
would be a sad thing. The majority of the community
supported the street fair and she urged the commission
to give them the two hour extension.
Commissioner Whitlock asked if there was a written agreement
as to the current hours of operation; Ms . Stephens replied
there was under the conditions of the original conditional
use permit granted three years ago. Mr. Diaz clarified that
it was not a contract-type agreement; it was a condition
imposed on the conditional use permit. One party could not
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simply violate it, which was why this was before the ari
commission. Chairperson Spiegel asked if Indio negatively
impacted the street fair when they opened their street fair.
Ms . Stephens replied no, but felt that Palm Springs would be
a different "arena" . Chairperson Spiegel asked if she had
heard from her vendors on whether they would stay in Palm
Desert or would go to Palm Springs . Ms . Stephens said they
had many loyal vendors who were hoping they would have those
hours; if they do not this season, they would probably go to
Palm Springs . Chairperson Spiegel questioned where all the
vendors would come from; if they would be new to the area.
Ms . Stephens guessed that many would be from the outside area
because they did receive many applications from the Banning
and Beaumont area and Palm Springs probably would also.
Chairperson Spiegel asked if many people were turned down
during the season; Ms . Stephens said that in past seasons
they had, but every year it had gradually unraveled to where
they now have hardly any waiting list at all and the waiting
list they had this year was because they have given up some
of their spaces in lot 16 due to the construction of the
multi-agency library.
Chairperson Spiegel asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR
or OPPOSITION to the proposal .
MS. SONJA CAMPBELL, from Palm Desert, said she was
opposed to the request. Any change to the conditional
use permit in her opinion should require an
environmental impact report. She also stated that the
planning commission was wrong when it passed Resolution
1532 on August 20, 1991 . On May 21, 1991 the planning
commission referred the matter of the resolution to the
economic development agency committee for their advice.
Two members of the planning commission attended EDAC
held July 10, 1991 . However, at the public hearing held
at the planning commission on August 20, 1991 no
consideration was given to the recommendations of the
EDAC and one commissioner made the statement, "Give them
anything they want" , meaning the vendors . She felt this
illustrated the lack of any serious thought being given
to the determination that the zoning ordinance amendment
would better serve the public ' s health, safety and
general welfare. It was also her opinion that the city
council was incorrect when on January 23, 1992 it
certified a negative environmental impact and the
reasons were: the legal standard determining
appropriateness of negative declarations was ignored;
the initial study failed to address or analyze the
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r.�. social and economic changes created by the COD street
fair; insufficient consideration was given to a fair
argument that the COD street fair might create many of
the impacts defined by the CEQA guidelines as being
normally significant impacts . There was violation of
equal protection under the law and the need for
additional hours was being misrepresented. During city
council consideration Mr. Diaz made the statement that
she paraphrased as, "Mr. Mayor, just to clarify one
thing. If we do not limit it at noon, then staff would
have to relook at the environmental issue. We urge the
council to stay at noon. " Then Mayor Snyder to other
city councilmembers said that if, "We go different than
what he (Mr. Diaz) establishes the negative declaration
on, we could well be in court with an EIR, then you
would really regret what happens" . In closing, she
stated that if the CUP were amended, Mr. Snyder' s
warning would surely prove to be correct.
Commissioner Whitlock asked if Ms . Campbell was speaking on
behalf of herself or the El Paseo Merchants Association.
Ms . Campbell replied herself, mostly.
+� Commissioner Whitlock asked if the E1 Paseo Merchants had an
opinion of the extension of hours . Ms . Campbell said they
have had some people on the board attend some meetings and
some members were not in favor of it.
Commissioner Whitlock asked if, as a body, the Merchants
addressed this as a group. Ms . Campbell said they had not.
Commissioner Whitlock asked if the Chamber of Commerce had
addressed this . Ms . Campbell said the Chamber of Commerce
was not taking a stand at all on it.
Chairperson Spiegel asked if Ms . Campbell had spoken to
anyone at the Town Center; Ms . Campbell replied no. Many of
the people in the Town Center, whoever took over for Doug
Simmons, did not attend any of the meetings .
Chairperson Spiegel asked if the street fair had adversely
effected her personal business on E1 Paseo; Ms . Campbell felt
that "business was bad for everyone right now and they really
did not ask the city not to allow any new licenses for any
other business because it would be in controversy to their
own, so she felt why should anyone else, the College of the
Desert, go to city council and ask for additional hours" .
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Chairperson Spiegel asked if the new center on Highway 111
would adversely effect E1 Paseo. Ms . Campbell replied not
especially E1 Paseo, but all businesses . She felt that from
7 : 00 a.m. to 12 : 00 p.m. , the businesses do not open that
early and with them closing at 12 : 00 p.m. , then people from
there could go to lunch and disperse throughout the city and
have an opportunity to shop in the other stores, whereas if
they stayed until 2 : 00 p.m. , people would be tired and ready
to go home. She felt they could have additional hours on
Sundays, but they should have the opportunity to have the
public in the other areas of the city shopping.
DR. DAVID GEORGE, President of the College of the
Desert, said that the college prided itself on being a
partner in the community. From the very beginning he
felt the street fair was a positive partner in the
overall retail environment of the central valley. He
still believed that was the case and they did not shy
away from any economic impact review but in terms of the
social and economic reality they believed the street
fair had proven itself to be a tremendous social
advantage to many individuals within the central valley
and beyond. Economically speaking they brought in
10, 000 patrons and many of them, according to surveys
done with the merchants groups, indicated they do stay
here to buy gasoline and food and go into other shops .
He believed the street fair had become a vital part of
the social and economic fabric of this community and he
wanted to remind the commission that part of the
business of Palm Desert was education. The educational
establishment of College of the Desert has become
extremely reliant on these funds . With the state
situation, these funds had been essential to the college
and he felt they would be an integral part for the next
several years, perhaps for the next decade. He asked
the commission to look at the reality and look at the
competition coming into the valley. He asked them to
understand what would happen to the central part of the
valley if there wasn't a competitive retail environment.
Chairperson Spiegel closed the public testimony and asked for
commission comments .
Mr. Diaz stated that the issue of CEQA was raised and he
would like to address that. In 1992 they indicated that the
Negative Declaration of Environmental Impact should be
adopted. At that time he indicated they could have been
challenged--they could be challenged now. The addition being
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r... requested was a categorical exemption to the requirements of
CEQA; it was a minor addition. Since 1992 the city has had
the experience to see exactly what the environmental impact
of the college street fair operation has been. That negative
declaration with the conditions would continue to mitigate
any potential significant adverse impacts on the environment.
Also, if at any time during the last two years if anyone felt
the operation had a negative impact on them, it could have
been challenged as approved at that time. Staff stated for
the record that this was categorically exempt.
Commissioner Beaty said he had no problem with the extended
hours . If the environmental issue was real, it would have
been challenged already. He did not feel that two additional
hours would make a difference. If the street fair ceased to
operate, those patrons and vendors would go to Palm Springs .
That would be detrimental to the college and the community.
Commissioner Whitlock stated that was the purpose of an
amendment and requesting an amendment to a CUP was to allow
the commission the opportunity to weigh and hear why a two
hour extension was needed. No one was arguing with Dr.
George as to the positive impact the street fair has had on
the community. She was concerned about the other entities
�... that were brought together to create the noon cutoff three
years ago, but in view of the comments made this evening and
the potential impact of the additional street fairs in Palm
Springs and other communities caused concern. She would not
like to see the college to lose their existing vendors and as
a result of those arguments, she would be willing to approve
the amendment.
Chairperson Spiegel stated that from what he has read in the
Desert Sun, they were putting together a major development in
Palm Springs and it could be great competition for the street
fair. He has had retail experience and he felt that if those
people that were currently going to the College of the Desert
decided that they preferred to go to Palm Springs, they would
not only lose them for the few hours, but the whole day.
They would not go to Palm Springs and then drive back and
shop E1 Paseo or other areas, they would go to Palm Springs
and then home. He also felt that most people that got there
at 7 : 00 a.m. would not stay until 2 : 00 p.m. If they did
stay, they would still be in the area. Also, the college
needed to try and maintain the vendors they had and Palm
Springs would have a certain amount of success because of its
size. He felt the street fair had been good for the college
and those in the city supported the college in education in
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the valley and specifically in Palm Desert and he could not
be opposed to the additional hours .
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Beaty, seconded by Commissioner
Whitlock, approving the findings as presented by staff .
Carried 4-0 .
Moved by Commissioner Beaty, seconded by Commissioner
Whitlock, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1660,
approving CUP 91-13 Amendment #1 . Carried 4-0 .
C. Case No. PP 94-4 - GEORGE BUONO, Applicant
Request for approval of a Negative
Declaration of Environmental Impact and
a precise plan of design for a 13,239
square foot two story medical office
building on a 36,312 square foot lot at
the southwest corner of Fred Waring
Drive and San Anselmo Avenue.
Mr. Smith outlined the salient points of the staff report.
Staff was suggesting some modification to the layout so that
the applicant would provide a driveway connection to San
Anselmo. At this time it was shown as an undesirable dead
end situation. He said there was a catch basin problem at
that end of the lot and they were working with public works;
it might be a single lane exit only, but there would be a
connection to San Anselmo. Mr. Smith stated that the
proposal received preliminary approval from the architectural
review. Staff recommended approval subject to the
conditions .
Chairperson Spiegel opened the public testimony and asked the
applicant to address the commission. The applicant was not
present. Chairperson Spiegel asked if anyone wished to
address the commission in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the
proposal . There was no one. It was the consensus of the
commission that this item be continued for two weeks .
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by Commissioner
Beaty, continuing PP 94-4 to September 20, 1994 by minute
motion. Carried 3-0.
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... D. Ahmanson Commercial Development Agreement - MADISON
REALTY PARTNERSHIP/SUNRISE COMPANY, Applicants
Request for approval of a Negative
Declaration of Environmental Impact and
an amendment to an approved Development
Agreement Ordinance No. 590 increasing
the maximum floor area of a proposed
retail commercial center from 167,000
square feet to 200,000 square feet on
Site Area No. 5, a 10 . 3 acre parcel on
the south side of E1 Paseo between San
Pablo Avenue and Larkspur Lane.
Mr. Diaz noted that a continuance was being requested.
Chairperson Spiegel opened the public testimony and asked if
anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION. There was no
one.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by Commissioner
Beaty, continuing the Ahmanson Commercial Development
Agreement to October 4 , 1994 by minute motion. Carried 3-0 .
E. Case Nos . CUP 94-11 and VAR 94-1 - DRS . FRANK AND JANET
KERRIGAN, Applicants
Request for approval of a conditional
use permit, a height variance and a
development agreement to allow
construction of a 5745 square foot one
story office building and a 2567 square
foot two story office/retail building in
the R-3 zone at 42-575 Washington
Street.
Mr. Diaz noted that a continuance was being requested.
Chairperson Spiegel opened the public testimony and asked if
anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION. There was no
one.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by Commissioner
Beaty, continuing CUP 94-11 and VAR 94-1 to September 20 to
allow the case to be re-advertised as C/Z 94-2 and PP 94-5 by
minute motion. Carried 3-0 .
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F. Case No. 4341 SA - B-Y-J PARTNERS for BURGER KING, ri
Applicant
Request for approval of an exception to
Section 25 . 68 . 310(A) of the zoning
ordinance to allow an additional
freestanding sign at 73-547 Highway 111
(Jensen' s shopping center) .
Mr. Diaz noted that a continuance was being requested.
Chairperson Spiegel opened the public testimony and asked if
anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION. There was no
one.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by Commissioner
Beaty, continuing 4341 SA to September 20, 1994 by minute
motion. Carried 3-0 .
IX. MISCELLANEOUS
A. Determination of Use to allow dog boarding in
association with an existing dog grooming shop at 73-260
E1 Paseo, Suite No. 2-E - Ritzi Rover Pet Grooming.
Mr. Diaz said that the operation was a pet grooming store and
they were considering the adjacent suite on E1 Paseo to
provide dog boarding in association with their dog grooming
shop. In other communities there were determinations made
that dog boarding was an ancillary use and would be permitted
with a grooming establishment in commercial zones if it was
ancillary or incidental . The usual limitation was one or two
dogs . The concern was adjacent businesses with dogs barking
when they were being boarded. Kennels would be permitted in
commercial zones with a conditional use permit. The feeling
in those cities was that if a building was properly designed
and noise considerations were done as part of the operation,
then it could be permitted. There were other cities that did
not allow dog boarding at all in the commercial C-1 zone. He
said that dog boarding was allowed as part of kennel
operations in the service industrial zone. The issue was : 1)
should the city allow it as an ancillary use to permit it
with a conditional use permit; or 2) not allow it in the C-1
zone. He felt there might be instances in the C-1 zone where
it could be done. He said there could be some opposition
from other E1 Paseo businesses and if commission wanted,
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40W staff could ask them to study it further and go to the E1
Paseo Merchants Association for their input.
Commissioner Whitlock felt the applicant should find out
about the commercial neighbors around them. She said she
used Ritzi Rover for her pets and they were a clean,
professional operation as a grooming company. The concerns
she had were the boarding aspect; they were closed from 5 : 00
p.m. to 7 : 30 a.m. for sleep time--where did they plan to
exercise and walk the dogs? Would it be along E1 Paseo or
along the back part of the complex? She did not know if the
people around there had been notified. She asked if the
owners and neighbors were aware of the proposal for up to 20
dogs or if the owners had a plan for taking care of that.
Chairperson Spiegel asked if notices were mailed out; Mr.
Diaz replied no, that this was a determination of use.
Chairperson Spiegel felt the neighbors should be notified.
Commissioner Whitlock said they were a professional company,
but was concerned with boarding. Chairperson Spiegel asked
if the applicant was present. No one responded. Chairperson
Spiegel asked if anyone wished to address the commission in
FAVOR or OPPOSITION.
�+ MS. SONJA CAMPBELL, President of the E1 Paseo Board
Association, felt this matter should be continued to
allow the E1 Paseo Business Association Board of
Directors to see how they would evaluate this use,
particularly those business owners around the proposed
use.
Commissioner Whitlock noted that there was a restaurant in
the area; Ms . Campbell said they were directly behind the
Dakota Bar and Grill . She felt there was enough problems
already with people walking their dogs on El Paseo and the
dogs were going on the side walk and no one cleaned it up,
especially in the parking lots in the back. Chairperson
Spiegel felt this should be looked into.
Mr. Diaz recommended a continuance. Commissioner Whitlock
reiterated that they were a very reputable business .
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Beaty, seconded by Commissioner
Whitlock, continuing this issue to October 4, 1994 by minute
motion. Carried 3-0 .
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X. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - B wri
None.
XI . ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE UPDATE
Mr. Diaz summarized pertinent July 21 and August 18, 1994
economic development committee actions .
XII. COMMENTS
Mr. Diaz noted that there was another item before the city
council on August 25 and that was a proposal for a restaurant
on the lagoon. The staff report to the city council
indicated that staff could solve the planning issues as far
as delivery, traffic, noise, odors, etc. , but there was one
issue that could not be resolved and that was the issue of if
this was a use that should be in the park in the first place.
Council instructed staff to go back to the different
commissions and asked them that question. Is this a use that
should be in the civic center park? He noted it would be
going to the parks and recreations commission in terms of
land use. Chairperson Spiegel noted that he had recently wi
visited Balboa Park and they had a great restaurant there and
they also conducted weddings in the park. The restaurant was
moderately priced and they were busy all the time. He felt
a restaurant could be a nice addition to the city park if it
made economic sense. Mr. Diaz clarified that the issue was
if all that could be worked out, should a restaurant use be
located in the park. He noted that the parks and recreation
commission would review it purely from the issue of whether
it would conflict with the recreation aspect of the park.
Commissioner Whitlock asked for and received confirmation
that city funds were being requested. Chairperson Spiegel
noted that in Mr. Farzaneh' s existing restaurant during the
season, patrons wore coats and ties . Not too many people
visiting the parking would were coats and ties . He asked
what kind of restaurant it would be. It was indicated that
it would be similar to the existing restaurant. Mr. Diaz
noted that three concerns raised during council discussion
were: 1) the concept itself was incompatible; 2 ) that the
city should not put in public funds to compete against
private enterprises which were having problems; and 3) there
were enough projects that the city was involved in right now.
He said this matter had never been brought to planning
commission. Chairperson Spiegel agreed with the comments by
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�,.. the commission, but noted there had been successful
restaurants in other parks . Mr. Diaz indicated that if the
concept were approved, the design would come back before the
commission.
XIII . ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Beaty, seconded by Commissioner
Whitlock, adjourning the meeting to September 20, 1994 by
minute motion. Carried 3-0 . The meeting was adjourned at
8 :50 p.m.
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