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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING
TUESDAY - MAY 16, 1995
7 :00 P.M. - CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE
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I . CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Jonathan called the meeting to order at 7 : 00 p.m.
II . PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Whitlock led in the pledge of allegiance.
III . ROLL CALL
Members Present: Sabby Jonathan, Chairperson
Paul Beaty
Sonia Campbell
George Fernandez
' Carol Whitlock
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Ray Diaz Mark Greenwood
Marshall Rudolph Tonya Monroe
Phil Drell
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
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Request for consideration of the May 2, 1995 meeting minutes .
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by Commissioner
Beaty, approving the May 2, 1995 meeting minutes as
submitted. Carried 5-0 .
V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION:
Mr. Diaz summarized pertinent May 11, 1995 city council
action.
VI. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - A
None.
VII . CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Case Nos . PMW 95-3 and PMW 95-4 - MARK TEMPLE
CONSTRUCTION, Applicant
Request for approval of two parcel map
waivers to allow lot line adjustments
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B. Case Nos . PMW 95-5 and PMW 95-6 - MR. AND MRS. KENNETH
HARRIS AND MR. AND MRS. STEFAN P. WILK, Applicants �
Request for approval of a parcel map
waiver to combine lots 19, 20 and 21
into one lot and a parcel map to combine
lots 17-21 into one parcel .
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner
Whitlock, approving the consent calendar by minute motion.
Carried 5-0 .
VIII . PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Continued Case No. TT 28158 - KAUFMAN AND BROAD,
Applicant
Request for approval of a Negative
Declaration of Environmental Impact and
441 lot, 439 unit single family
subdivision located on 106 acres within
the PR-5 zone at the northeast corner of
Gerald Ford Drive and Portola Avenue.
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Mr. Drell informed commission that based on the commission' s
comments from the last hearing, the applicant redesigned the
subdivision map. The circulation and lot layout had been
revised. Issues directly addressed were recreational
amenities--in the new plan in addition to the 2 two acre
retention basins, the applicant included a two acre fully
improved park. At this time it was unclear what fully
improved meant, but whether this would be a city accepted
public, fully maintained park would be ultimately a decision
by the parks and recreation commission and city council, as
would the design. Commission would have to hear from the
applicant as to their intentions of what they considered to
be a fully improved park. That park was adjacent to one of
the retention basins which could also provide some
recreational use like a soccer field--potentially it could be
the size of a four acre park. The two retention basins had
been elongated to provide a better buffer between the units
and railroad tracks . The number of lots that backed up
directly to the tracks was reduced from 38 to 27 . The issue
regarding the adjacent industrial subdivision at the
northwest, on the map the developer designated a 40 foot
building setback and an eight foot wall and landscaping from
the 40 feet. A few of those lots they still could not place
their smallest unit on and meet the 40 foot setback. Somehow �
a few of those lots had to be deepened a little bit to
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realistically achieve that 40 foot setback. While most of
�''�' the houses would only have front yard landscaping, these
houses would have rear yard landscaping provided as well .
There would be large trees, etc. , that would soften any
potential view of the industrial area. That design would be
part of their architectural review. For Gerald Ford and
Portola Avenue, right-of-ways had been widened to allow the
20 foot parkways, which had been 12 feet. They had a
condition to widen it to 20 and the new map incorporated that
condition as well as the acceleration and deceleration lanes
at each entrance. The additional parkway, especially along
Portola, would allow for the additional landscaping required
for blowsand protection in terms of sufficient numbers of
trees . The net result/project data was distributed to the
commission--there had been a decrease in the number of units
from 439 to 433 in terms of lots and the average lot sized
increased from 6431 to 6558 square feet. While previously
the largest number of lots was in the 5500-6000 square foot
range, now the largest was in the 6000-7000 square foot range
and the number of 7000-8000 had also increased. There was a
decrease in the larger 8000 square foot lots and the smaller
5500 square foot lots . Gross density also went down from
4 . 14 to 4 . 08 . On the advice of the city engineer, the
circulation system was redesigned to allow a few collectors .
The new design provided enough collectors to make it easier
'�"" to get in and out, especially for emergency vehicles .
Additional analysis was done on the prices and how they
compared relative to moderate income standards and in the
draft agreements, all of the 20� controlled units would meet
a moderate income standard. The smaller 1000 square foot
unit would meet the affordable by a four person household
earning a median income. The larger three bedroom unit would
meet 110� of inedian; and the four bedroom unit would meet the
110� of inedian for a five person household. In general,
families earning between $40, 000-$50,000 per year would be
able ta afford these homes . They would meet the general plan
standards and would go toward the general plan goals relative
to the produce of moderate income housing. No additional
work was done on the agreement. Mr. Drell stated that his
only comment on the agreement was that they had a provision
in terms of termination that had it go out of effect after
five years . "The agreement shall terminate automatically on
the earlier date when 20$ of the lots within the property are
sold. " If all of the lots were sold, then the agreement
would terminate and the restrictive covenants would be in
effect, to the date which would be five years from the date
of the execution of the agreement. For a project like this,
he noted it might take longer than five years to build out
and sell, so five years he felt was insufficient time. He
�, felt that "I" of this agreement should be in effect as long
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as the 20$ were unsold. Staff recommended approval of the '�
map as conditioned, ri
Commissioner Campbell asked what the in-lieu of fees meant in
terms of the park provision. Mr. Drell explained that the
city park or community facilities improvement ordinance
required dedication of land; typically unless a project was
specifically located where the city wanted a park, there was
an in-lieu fee that the city collected equivalent to the
value of land which would be required to be dedicated ( i .e.
this project would be required to dedicate approximately six
acres worth of land) . That was based on five acres per 1000
projected population in the subdivision. In this case they
were proposing that their park requirement would be filled by
a combination of dedication of the two acres and the
improvement of the two acres . It would be a combination to
fulfill their park requirement.
Chairperson Jonathan asked if the park would be public and
maintained by the city; Mr. Drell stated that was an issue
that would be decided, with the commission' s input, by the
parks and recreation commission and city council, who would
decide given a choice between cash or land or land plus
improvements, what the city would rather have. If it was
decided that credit would be given as part of their park �
requirement, but the city did not want to maintain it because �
this park so exclusively serves this one subdivision, that
was an option. Chairperson Jonathan noted that there wasn't
going to be a homeowners association so it would be difficult
if the city didn't maintain it. He asked if the commission
was in a position to approve a project and a development
agreement if that issue was not addressed. Mr. Diaz believed
the commission could if they placed on the development a
condition that the developer would agree to establish an
assessment district under the 1972 Lighting and Landscaping
Maintenance Act for this facility. That would allow the
commission to approach the parks and recreation commission
and council and would answer the questions the planning
commission might have in terms of maintenance. Also, it
would give them some latitude in terms of relocating that
park if the parks and recreation commission did not have a
problem with it and recommended that the city maintain it
after the developer developed it as long as it was somewhere
else, so in essence what they would be setting forth was
that: 1) they would be getting at least two acres; and 2 )
that it would be developed by the developer subject to the
final location by the city council and parks and recreation
commission. If they had any questions or doubts about what �
was finally approved, it would come back to the commission,
but by placing the condition that the developer agrees if �
necessary to establish a lighting and landscaping maintenance
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district. Mr. Drell felt they would need that any way for
'�"'' the retention basins . Chairperson Jonathan asked if the
there would be a 20 foot greenbelt within the 40 foot setback
and if it would be within the project or outside the walls .
Mr. Drell said that typically on a perimeter where there was
a street, there was a parkway. Where there were two abutting
properties with no parkway, all the development had to be
inside the wall because they did not want a "no man' s land"
between two properties . They were proposing that they would
landscape this area as opposed to the rest of the lots that
would not have rear landscaping. These lots would have rear
landscaping specifically designed with big trees and they
were only talking about three or four lots . Chairperson
Jonathan asked about the project ' s perimeter on Portola; Mr.
Drell replied that the 20 feet would be landscaped parkway
between the curb and the perimeter wall . Chairperson
Jonathan asked if that included curb, greenbelt, sidewalk, a
little bit more green and then the wall; Mr. Drell replied
yes, similar to the front of Marriott, Desert Falls, and the
Lakes . That would be on Gerald Ford and Portola. Mr. Diaz
noted there would be an assessment district needed to
maintain that. Chairperson Jonathan noted that public works
condition number 13 on page six addressed ingress and egress
and said that there would be only left-turn ingress on those
two points on Gerald Ford and Portola; Mr. Drell clarified
""�' that basically it had been the policy to allow left turn
entering off these major arterials where there was a
controlled median that did not allow exiting; they would only
be building a half street right now that would be two lanes,
but ultimately when the full four lanes were developed and
the median was installed, the people in the subdivision would
know they would only be allowed left turn in and right turn
exit. Mr. Drell did not feel the proximity to the corner
would be a problem. Chairperson Jonathan said that if there
was an island that only allowed left turn in that was fine,
but if there wasn't, then traffic cou.Zd be backed up into the
intersection. Mr. Drell said there would be a left turn
pocket provided. Chairperson Jonathan pointed out that on
the development agreement itself, there were a few provisions
that required some mechanism to monitor them ( i .e. the annual
adjustment to the selling price and the resale restrictions
that went on for ten years) . He asked if the city was
equipped in some way to monitor those requirements; Mr. Drell
said that there were controls on other rental units in the
city and there would be a lot of resale controls on the
Desert Rose project that would go forever. He noted that
exhibit A of the agreement would be a restrictive covenant
which would be placed on each one of the properties which
would require notification of the city at the time of resale.
,� Mr. Diaz indicated that the city had hired a housing
coordinator and her position would be to look at this as well
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as other housing agreements . Chairperson Jonathan said that f
the five year termination clause Mr. Drell referred to, even �
if it were modified, there were restrictions that would go
past the point of the agreement termination. Mr. Drell
concurred, but indicated the recorded covenants on the
property would outlive the agreement. Whether the agreement
was in effect or not in effect was a technicality.
Chairperson Jonathan said that if there was going to be a
termination clause, he asked why it could not be made that
when the last unit was resold within that 10 year period,
subject to restrictions . Mr. Rudolph stated that it could be
done that way.
Chairperson Jonathan opened the public testimony and asked
the applicant to address the commission.
MR. PAUL HUDDLESTON, Forest Falls, California, stated
that he was with Hunsaker & Associates, representing
Kaufman and Broad on the project. He said they had
redesigned the site to give better circulation
throughout the project; entry into the project was much
more easy for anyone wanting to get into the project;
going through the project would also be easier. In
order to reduce the number of lots along the highway and
railroad, they oriented the retention basins along that �
portion of the boundary to keep as many lots as they �
could away from the highway and railroad. They were
also required by CVWD to dedicate a well site and that
was oriented along the freeway. The park site was put
in that area and reduced the number of units by about 20
that were along the highway and there was some buffer
now between the residential units and the highway/
railroad. In response to the industrial zoning, they
plotted a product on there that was basically 80 feet
deep and that gave a 20 foot setback in the front and a
60 foot product. He said that would still gave 40 feet
in the back yard. In the first 20 feet adjacent to the
industrial zone, they would have the eight foot wall and
20 feet of the landscape buffer zone where there were
some trees and some amenities to give some kind of
buffer between the two zones . The 80 foot product would
fit on the lots without any adjustment. He noted that
Mr. Drell ' s figures were correct and the numbers on the
map were wrong. Mr. Huddleston stated that he spoke to
Steve Fortner, the owner of the project on the northwest
corner--the industrial property. He told Mr. Fortner
about what they were doing and faxed him a copy and he
was in general agreement with what they were proposing �
and felt the mitigation measures were adequate. The 20
foot parkways were being dedicated extra; they were �
standard 12 foot parkways that they were widening to 20
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feet along Portola and Gerald Ford and providing the
r.�, acceleration/deceleration lanes in all of the entrances/
exits into the project. He appreciated the city' s help
in working with staff and their comments and felt the
overall design had been dramatically improved.
Commissioner Campbell asked if the applicant would pay for
the backyard landscaping; Mr. Huddleston replied yes .
Chairperson Jonathan asked for and received clarification on
the final lot mix. Mr. Drell noted that the handout showed
the revised lot mix.
Chairperson Jonathan asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR
or OPPOSITION to the proposal . There was no one and the
public testimony was closed.
Commissioner Beaty noted that the developer put in the park
at the suggestion of the commission, but he felt the
assessment district should be established to pay for it. He
agreed with Commissioner Jonathan in that he really did not
like the lot size, but given the area, he was leaning toward
approval .
Commissioner Whitlock thanked the developer for returning
with the improvements that the commission requested and felt
+.�. they improved the project. She was concerned about the
public park issue because of the exclusive use for the
community; an assessment district would be a resolution. For
the number of lot mix, she was disappointed that there
weren' t more of the larger lots at the 8000 square foot size,
but given the overall development, it was something the city
needed and the developer should have success with.
Commissioner Fernandez stated that he was happy with the
addition of the park and the changes that were done. He was
in favor of the proposal .
Commissioner Campbell stated that she liked the park and did
not see the need for it to be a public park for everyone in
Palm Desert because of the location. She was in favor of the
project.
Chairperson Jonathan stated that the park was not a big issue
and indicated that the condition regarding the assessment
district needed to be added so that there was a mechanism for
paying for it. It would be a public park, but two acres was
not very big and would end up being used by the residents
only. He commended the developer for making some changes.
He felt they were a step in the right direction and wished
they could have gotten more. He believed that moderate
�" income housing was necessary and that this area justified the
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very significant departure from their normal standards in �
terms of lots sizes, amenities and appearance. He understood �
what they were trying to achieve and felt the departure was
appropriate in this case. He asked that staff in the future
do more of their work for them--if they demanded a little
more at the beginning, when it got to commission and they
demanded a little more, then they could have something that
was better suited to the city of Palm Desert and would serve
the community better. Given that they started out with plan
A and were at plan B right now, it was enough of a step
forward that he could live with. If the developer decided to
reduce the density even more, it would be okay with him. The
only other thing he wanted to add was in the development
agreement, paragraph 4, that the termination clause be
reworded to where it self-terminated at the point that the
last unit, subject to the resale restrictions, was resold,
which was the natural ending of this agreement anyway. That
way they didn't have to risk potential conflicts when the
agreement was terminated but there were still houses subject
to the resale restrictions . Mr. Drell noted that the resale
restrictions, regardless of how many times it resold, were in
effect for ten years .
Commissioner Beaty asked if the commission or developer knew �
what school district this project fell into; Mr. Drell �
indicated that it was in Palm Springs Unified School �
District. He noted that there was some discussion when they
did the annexation of trying to get some dialogue between the
two school districts, but since there was no development,
there was no compelling reason at that time to pursue it.
Mr. Diaz noted that he has been asked by the Mayor to look
into the possibility of the area of the city north of Frank
Sinatra Drive being switched to the Desert Sands Unified
School District. He said that in the past PSUSD had been
reluctant to let any of their land go. Mr. Drell noted that
there was a piece of Bighorn Country Club that was in PSUSD;
Commissioner Beaty noted that was changed. He said that this
had nothing to do with their area of expertise, but it was a
particular interest of his . He felt those residents would
assume they would be attending Palm Desert schools . If
possible, he said he would like that disclosed in the sales
agreement. Mr. Diaz stated that was supposed to be in the
white sheet. Commissioner Beaty felt the real estate sales
people should know this also.
Chairperson Jonathan called for a motion.
Action:
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Moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner �
Fernandez, approving the findings as presented by staff. �
Carried 5-0 .
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Moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner
i... Fernandez, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1690,
approving TT 28158 subject to conditions as amended. Carried
5-0 .
Chairperson Jonathan said he wanted to follow up on the
school district boundary issue. He felt that residents of
Palm Desert should be attending Palm Desert schools . He
stated that he felt it would be appropriate to make a motion
to have the city council consider alternatives or pursuing
the possibilities . Mr. Diaz stated that the Mayor has
already instructed him to look into that. The thing they had
to be careful of was the distance--this area was not that far
from Cathedral City High School and might be closer than Palm
Desert High School . Staff was looking into that and would
see what the position of the school districts were. They had
to make sure what arguments they would be presenting. He
noted that Commissioner Beaty could tell the commission what
he went through. Commissioner Beaty said it was a long and
complicated story, but the major problem with that particular
parcel was that there were some redevelopment agreements
between the City of Palm Desert and Palm Springs Unified
School District and about $10-$20 million involved in
developer fees, redevelopment agency fees, and the people of
Palm Springs were upset when this was proposed and was
� defeated.
Chairperson Jonathan said that they would run into geographic
distance situations with any city. There were parts of
Rancho Mirage that were almost adjacent to Monterey where COD
was and were much closer to Palm Desert schools, but went a
further distance to the Rancho Mirage elementary schools . He
' did not feel that was the critical issue. When someone moved
into the city they expected to be part of the Palm Desert
school system and had a right to get that. Mr. Diaz
clarified that there was no Palm Desert school system--there
was the Desert Sands Unified School District, which has
schools outside of Palm Desert and depending upon the
programs and the attitude of that school district, they could
have kids bussed--Palm Desert kids could be bussed into
Indio. If the city wanted to get involved in fighting the
school districts on their boundaries, it could be done, but
he felt that in terms of what they were going through now and
the agreements that were there, the best way to do it was to
see exactly where they were to do it quietly if possible.
Chairperson Jonathan stated that he did not have a problem
with that, but wanted the council to know that he felt that
a resident of the city of Palm Desert should not have to
attend a Palm Springs School District school . Mr. Diaz asked
if a Palm Desert resident should attend La Quinta High
'r School . Chairperson Jonathan felt it made more sense because
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it was within the same school district. Mr. Diaz said that
right now, particularly since they had been through the +�r►
Cahuilla Hills fight, rather than going out of our way and
embarrass another school district and cause problems, see
exactly what could be done. What were the where with alls
they would have to go through; if they could make the
exchange easily, then it should be done that way, but make
sure of what they were talking about first. Right now for
them to make a big deal when they were already looking at it
he felt was the wrong way to go, but if the commission wanted
to pass that motion, he would carry it forth to the council .
He said it was a council issue right now and staff was making
initial in-roads . Part of the reason they did not push it
with the Cahuilla Hills exchange and Bighorn exchange in the
area was because there was an understanding reached at that
time that the area north of Frank Sinatra would be left
alone. Now they were going into that area and that agreement
wasn't signed there, but they had to proceed slowly. They
didn' t even know if Palm Desert High School could accept
additional students in terms of students generated by
additional areas . They had to look at both school districts .
Chairperson Jonathan stated that he had no intention of
having the commission entering into politics, that was the
city council was for, so he didn' t want to ruin what they
were involved in. He did not think it was making a big deal
of an issue to have a consensus statement that advised the �/
council of their interest in having Palm Desert residents
attend Desert Sands Unified School District schools. He said
it was not a mandate, but if Mr. Diaz felt it would "stir up
the pot" and have some adverse results, then he would back
off of that. Mr. Diaz said that they could say that the
planning commission would like to have the council look into
having all citizens of Palm Desert attend the same school
district. Chairperson Jonathan said it was to explore the
practicality and advisability of doing that. Mr. Diaz felt
that was acceptable.
B. Continued Case No. C/Z 90-12 Amendment #1 -
MILLER/RICHARDS PARTNERSHIP, Applicant
Request for approval of a pre-annexation
zoning of PCD/HPR (Planned Community
Development , Hillside Planned
Residential - 228 .5 acres) O.S. (Open
Space - 411 .5 acres) and a zone change
from HPR to PCD/HPR for 54 acres; for a
project known as "The Crest" consisting
of 151 homesites on 640 acres north of
the "Cahuilla Hills area" and 54 acres �
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opposite the Palm Valley Channel from
� the "Sommerset" condominiums .
Mr. Diaz stated that staff would recommend that this case be
continued to June 20, 1995 .
Chairperson Jonathan opened the public testimony and asked if
anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION. There was no
one. Chairperson Jonathan asked for a motion.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by Commissioner
Beaty, continuing C/Z 90-12 Amendment #1 to June 20, 1995 by
minute motion. Carried 5-0 .
C. Case No. CUP 95-5 - MANUEL AND FLORA ABARCA, Applicants
Request for approval of a conditional
use permit to allow the issuance of a
beer and wine license for Las Parrillas
Taco Shop located at 72-785 Highway 111,
#B.
Mr. Diaz noted that the commission had the staff report. The
� request was for a beer and wine license in a mexican
restaurant and staff was recommending approval .
Chairperson Jonathan o ened the public testimony and noted
that no one was present. Chairperson Jonathan closed the
public testimony.
Commissioner Beaty asked if it was usual to not have the
applicant present. Mr. Diaz stated that usually if there was
an opponent present, but the applicant was probably at the
business . Chairperson Jonathan asked if the applicant was
notified. Mr. Diaz replied yes .
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Whitlock, seconded by Commissioner
Campbell, approving the findings as presented by staff.
Chairperson Jonathan noted that he would be voting against
this proposal was because there was a precedent that he felt
was appropriate that if the applicant was not present, he
would not vote for what was being applied for. Commissioners
Fernandez and Beaty concurred. Chairperson Jonathan asked if
the request were denied if the applicant would have to go
back to square one. Mr. Diaz said that was right, and would
recommend that the case be continued to the next meeting.
� Commissianer Whitlock withdrew her motion, Commissioner
Campbell her second.
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Chairperson Jonathan reopened the public testimony and asked
for a motion of continuance. +�
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner
Beaty, continuing CUP 95-5 to June 6 , 1995 by minute motion.
Carried 5-0 .
IX. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - B
None.
IX. MISCELLANEOUS
None.
X. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE UPDATE
None.
XI . COMMENTS
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Mr. Diaz noted that the joint dinner meeting with city
council was scheduled for June 7 , 1995 .
XII . ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Beaty, seconded by Commissioner
Fernandez, adjourning the meeting by minute motion. Carried
5-0, The meeting was adjourned at 8 : 00 p.m.
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RAM N A. DIAZ, cr ry
ATTEST:
SABBY JONAT N, Chairperson
Palm Desert lanning Commission
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