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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING
TUESDAY - MAY 7, 1996
7 :00 P.M. - CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE
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I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Beaty called the meeting to order at 7 :01 p.m.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Jonathan led in the pledge of allegiance.
III . ROLL CALL
Members Present: Paul Beaty, Chairperson
Sonia Campbell
George Fernandez
Sabby Jonathan
Members Absent: Jim Ferguson
Staff Members : Phil Drell Joe Gauqush
Marshall Rudolph Tonya Monroe
Steve Smith
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
�""' Consideration of the April 16, 1996 meeting minutes .
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Commissioner
Campbell, approving the April 16, 1996 meeting minutes .
Carried 4-0 .
V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION:
Mr. Smith summarized pertinent April 25, 1996 council
actions .
VI. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None.
VII . CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Case No. PM 27419 - EDC CONSULTANTS, Applicant
Request for approval of a first one-year
time extension for a tentative parcel
map subdividing 17 acres into 19
industrial lots . Project site is
� located approximately one half mile
easterly of Monterey Avenue, northerly
of the future extension of Dinah Shore
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Drive, and southerly of the Southern
Pacific Railroad and Interstate 10 . r„�
B. Case No. PMW 96-14 - SUNRISE DESERT PARTNERS, Applicant
Request for approval of a parcel map
waiver to adjust lot lines of
condominium lots and golf course lots 8,
10 and 11 of Tract 26123-3 to
accommodate common area Homeowners
Association swimming pool plotting
within Indian Ridge Country Club.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner
Fernandez, approving the consent calendar by minute motion.
Carried 4-0.
VIII . PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Continued Case No. CUP 96-12 - MS. MARIE ELAINE MALONEY
for MONTESSORI SCHOOL OF THE VALLEY, Applicant
Request for approval of a Negative
Declaration of Environmental Impact and �
conditional use permit to allow a 3535
square foot building expansion and to
increase the permitted number of
students from 60 to 120 children to
amend the maximum age served from five
years to 12 years and to reduce the
required parking lot from 40 spaces to
15 spaces for the existing Montessori
School at 43-250 Warner Trail .
Mr. Smith noted that this matter was continued from the April
16, 1996 meeting. The applicant was requested to appear
before the Project Area 4 Committee which Mr. Brashear and
Ms . Maioney did. The committee heard that the site on
Mountain View and Warner Trail was presently used by 40
students between the ages of two and a half years and five
years and that the Palm Desert Country Club recreation
building located at Avenue of the States houses another 40
students six years and above. The school presently provides
through fifth grade. The present goal is to consolidate the
school under one roof to increase the maximum number of
students to 120 and provide for a sixth grade. In order to
accomplish this the applicant needs the amendment to the
county approved permit ( i .e. increasing the number permitted
from 60 to 120, changing the age served from five years to a �
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maximum of 12 years) . While the applicant is seeking
�. approval for 120 students, Ms . Maloney indicated that a more
realistic number would be 100, but they need the additional
flexibility. They were talking about 100 to 120 students .
The committee noted that they would be looking at potentially
two and a half to three times more noise impacts from the
playground. Mr. Brashear indicated that he was prepared to
create a fence that would run in an east-west direction 70
feet north of the existing south property line. Staff
previously suggested a ten foot buffer planted with citrus
trees (condition no. 13) . Mr. Brashear suggested that the
wall be moved north 70 feet to create a 70 foot buffer that
at some point in the future they might process a parcel map
on to create another single family lot fronting onto Warner
Trail . It would be a good size residential lot fitting in
with the existing lots on Warner Trail . The committee
considered that and suggested that basically if the
commission goes along with the expansion of the school, that
they should also limit the maximum number of children on the
playground at any one time to 20 . They concurred that the
fence should be moved 70 feet north of the south property
line. The committee also took the position that being a
Montessori educational school was important in that they felt
it was a mitigating factor in that its impacts on the
community could be less than other educational uses, hence
`•+ they suggested a condition that any expansion and the
additional children served would only apply as long as the
facility was used specifically as a Montessori School . The
bottom of page 2 of the staff report noted that staff hoped
to see a revised landscape plan and new wall plan and gating
system which Mr. Brashear did discuss . Mr. Smith had not yet
seen it. Staff continued to recommend approval with
condition #13 being replaced to read, "Six foot high
fence/wall be constructed to run east-west 70 feet north of
the south property line and that the play area be located
north of the new fence wall . The 70 foot wide area south of
the new fence would act as a buffer. " Staff also suggested
the additions of conditions 14 and 15 : The maximum number of
children permitted on the playground at any one time shall be
20 children; and, that this approval applies only to the use
of the property as a Montessori School . Any other school or
use of the property must be approved through Planning
Commission. Mr. Smith noted that he had a phone call from
Jane Peters who told him she lived across Warner Trail . She
was concerned that the buffer area could become a dumping
ground if it wasn' t fenced off down to the existing property
line fence. He suggested that the fence go down and tie in
so they wouldn't have access from Warner Trail to that area.
Staff inet with Mr. Brashear and Ms . Maloney before the
Project Area 4 Committee meeting and Mr. Brashear did a memo
� outlining the items they discussed and that memo/letter was
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presented to the Pro�ect Area 4 Committee. He asked for any �
questions . �
Chairperson Beaty stated that the public hearing was still
open from the last meeting. He requested that comments that
were expressed at the last meeting not be repeated. He asked
if the applicant wished to address the commission.
MR. GARY BRASHEAR, representing Ms . Maloney, stated that
Mr. Smith pretty much said it all . He wanted to add
three things that they just met on with the area
residents : 1) he would suggest the continuity of the
wall and fence along the 70 foot lot space, it would add
continuity and landscaping and he agreed with that; 2 )
Coleen Richey Delong along Mountain View wanted a gate
and wall fronting her home so she wouldn't see the
unsightly parking lot and cars coming and going and he
would agree to gate it and wall it; he felt it was about
50 to 70 feet there. He noted that it was suggested to
wall in the east boundary or fence it in with chain link
fence to possibly cut down on crime and Ms . Delong
requested that they wrap it in vines so that it would be
better looking and he had no problem with that. 3) the
time of the school would be extended and provide after �
school programs . Instead of stopping at 2 : 30 p.m. or �
3 : 00 p.m. , he wanted to keep it open until 6 : 00 p.m. for �
the after school programs . Those were the three items
they discussed.
Commissioner Jonathan asked if Mr. Brashear met with a cross
representation of the surrounding residents . Mr. Brashear
stated that they met with four or five just now.
Commissioner Jonathan asked if Mr. Brashear had space
limitations regarding parking that should become an issue.
Mr. Brashear replied no. Commissioner Jonathan asked if they
could provide more spaces than the 15 spaces being discussed.
Mr. Brashear noted that there were 22 being required now.
Staff concurred that the number was 22 . Mr. Brashear said
that if they were required to go beyond the 22 spaces, there
was room for them.
Chairperson Beaty asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposal .
MRS. OLIVEIRA, 43-590 Warner Trail, said that they have
a school on Warner Trail and Fred Waring. Those
children were there every day, but there was vandalism.
The traffic was "out of this world" and the street was
used for speeding. This use would add more children and �
more cars and more speeding. The speeding included the �
buses . They asked for a four-way stop sign at the
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corner and that was refused. Now they want more
'� congestion, more noise and more children. She felt this
would be unfair to the residents .
MS. JOYCE FRISCOE, a resident of Robin Road and a member
of the Project Area 4 Committee, said they received a
notice last night in their mail boxes that a meeting
would be today at 5 : 00 p.m. and basically they resolved
a lot of the concerns presented. One thing that came up
was the extended hours, which she had been unaware of .
There might be less than 120 children until 6 : 00 p.m. ,
but that needed to be addressed. If the hours were
extended to 6 : 00 p.m. to allow after school programs,
then perhaps the number of children could be restricted.
Her understanding was that the extended hours were for
the after school programs . She showed the commission a
copy of a drawing and asked if there would be another
one that would reflect the changes or conditions .
Mr. Smith stated that condition no. 7 in the resolution
required that the wall across the Warner Trail frantage with
design and location had to be approved by architectural
review commission. That would take into account that, as
well as the landscape plan that Mr. Brashear related to. The
plan Ms . Friscoe had was not acceptable to staff .
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Ms . Friscoe asked about the church use and how that
would be clarified. If it would still be available
because the church currently rents the space on Sunday
mornings for services . The way it is now, she asked if
the facility would be used for a church for 156 people
on Sundays, as well as the 120 children during the week.
She didn't feel the church membership was currently 156
people, but asked if that had been taken into
consideration.
Commissioner Jonathan noted that the applicant appeared
before the Project Area 4 Committee. Ms . Friscoe concurred.
Commissioner Jonathan stated that he apparently didn' t
communicate his desires clearly enough, but he was a little
disappointed at what didn't happen. He personally hoped and
requested at the last meeting that Project Area 4 facilitate
a meeting of all the concerned parties to see if something
could be resolved and the needs of the applicant met while
the concerns of the residents were addressed at the same
time. He wasn't looking for another quasi-Planning
Commission that could entertain the applicant and put on
restrictions. Ms. Friscoe said that there was quite a bit of
confusion in the parking lot after the meeting as to who
� actually would put on the neighborhood meeting. She
understood that it was going before the Project Area 4
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Committee, but that if there was going to be a neighborhood �
meeting, the meeting would be put on by Mr. Brashear and he ,�,�
expressed that desire in the parking lot that night and that
he would take responsibility for the neighborhood meeting.
She left it up to the planning department. Mr. Brashear
called her the Friday after the meeting, they were to meet on
the first, and asked if there would be a separate meeting and
there was some confusion. She felt that Tuesday was late
notice and it was her understanding that there might be one
on Friday after the Project Area 4 meeting and before this
Planning Commission meeting. He might have felt it wasn't
necessary because they mitigated a lot of the concerns, but
then they did get a notice last night from the applicant for
a meeting today. His understanding was that only people
within the 300 foot range needed to be notified. Ms . Friscoe
disagreed with that saying that it was the neighborhood
streets that would be impacted by the school itself.
Commissioner Jonathan felt that was something that could be
explored in the future because he saw a very constructive and
useful role for the Project Area 4 Committee to play in these
types of situations and they have the resources of the city
where she has the ability to make a formal notice or just
have someone going up and down the street stuffing mail
boxes . That might be something that could be refined in the ?
future. Ms . Friscoe concurred. �
MS. COLEEN RICHEY DELONG stated that she wanted to �
verify what Mrs . Friscoe said. She indicated that she
was a resident at 77-550 Mountain View across the street
from Montessori School . After she left the last
Planning Commission meeting she was under the impression
that Mr. Brashear would get a hold of the neighborhood
people and they would get together in a timely time.
There was confusion and she was thinking like Mrs .
Friscoe that after the Project Area 4 meeting they would
get together with the neighbors . She said she attended
the meeting with Mr. Brashear at 5 : 00 p.m. at the
Montessori School and her concern was that basically,
while she was not against the school going in and
believed in Montessori, she looked straight across at
the parking lot. That was the view from her living
room, dining room and kitchen. When she bought her
property this was just a sleepy little church and they
met every Sunday and then when the school came in it was
a limited amount of people, but now they were talking
about more than doubling the size. She didn' t want to
look out at a bunch of cars going by, traffic, and there
was a lot of dust because it was a dirt road. There was `�
a lot of crime that went on there and security was a
problem. Every Friday night there were teenagers out �
there partying and drinking beer. She suggested that
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they put two security gates in the front on Mountain
�.. View and a cyclone fence to go all the way down
enclosing the parking lot and then put up a snail vine
that would grow rapidly and cover the fence. That was
something that would beautify the neighborhood. If they
were allowed to have the children until 6 : 00 p.m.
instead of 2 : 30 p.m. , she felt there should be a limit
to the number of children allowed. If they were allowed
to keep this as a church and 15 or 22 parking spaces was
an issue, that was not many spaces for church members
and they would have to park out on the street. That
needed to be clarified. Also, there was talk about the
70 foot lot on Warner Trail to be an R-1 property and
right now this was just one great big R-1 lot even
though it was close to two acres . The map that she was
given yesterday showed that there are two lots which
would be a little over an acre that would become a flag
lot from the parking lot of the church that qoes
backwards . They would almost have to have an easement
into their parking lot to sell it as an R-1 use. This
was R-1 property but it was 40, 000 square feet per unit
on Mountain View, Robin and Delaware. She asked that in
the future that this stay R-1 40,000 and they shouldn' t
be breaking up these acre parcels . They should enclose
that parking lot for security reasons, to make it
+r aesthetic with a fence and install security gates in
front like Learning Tree, Tot Stop, and others that are
enclosed. She felt that would provide some improvement.
MR. WESLEY OLIPHANT, 77-900 Avenue of the States,
informed commission that he was the parent of an eight
year old daughter that goes to the Montessori School .
Both he and his wife support Ms . Maloney in her venture
and her teaching technique has reflected on his daughter
immensely. He was happy to think that his daughter
could attend this school for another year and gave Ms .
Maloney his support 100$ . He felt it was important that
it wasn't just from a developer' s point of view, but
also from a parent' s .
MS. KAREN TELLIER stated that she has a five year old
son in the Montessori School and when she first came to
Ms . Maloney she was overwhelmed with some of the
techniques and achievements that the children have
shown. In the four months her child has been attending
there he has accomplished reading skills, which he did
not have, spelling and arithmetic at the age of five.
It was overwhelming for her because she went through
many schools, including St. Margaret' s . She searched
,� for three years and was thrilled with the expansion so
that her child could continue his education under the
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Montessori School teaching. The children that go to �
this school are beyond disciplined, they are respectful
and with today' s society it was important for the
children to be taught these skills and techniques and to
go into the world and become better adults . If there
were more schools like this, she felt there would be
more children and parents that all work together. She
said that she has three friends that live on this street
and she spends a lot of her afternoons at their homes
entertaining their other children and she also has a 22
month old son. As far as the traffic, it wasn' � from
the parents so much. They take their children to school
in the morning and car pool many times, especially with
gas prices . They have several parents that pick up
three or four students and take them and bring them
home. They trade off. Some parents have to work until
5 : 00 or 6 : 00 p.m. The traffic she has seen was mostly
people in a hurry to get to work. This was a good short
cut. They were the ones speeding. Regarding the after
hours, they have dance classes and ballet, as well as
karate and things that children can be a part of, rather
than going home and then being sent to another school or
location for ballet or karate. She stated that when she
picks up her child there generally is only two cars
parked there. She didn' t feel there was a need for a ;
lot of parking stalls . „�
MRS. MONAGHAN, a resident at 43-170 Warner Trail, across
the street from Montessori School . She agreed with Ms .
Tellier and had never seen a dozen cars in that parking
lot at the same time. She felt that allowing 30
children out at the same time was more reasonable then
20 . She noted that they have been taking the children
out at lunch and they weren't at all noisy. She stated
that the children down the street made more noise. She
indicated that she would like to see a stop sign at
Warner Trail . With the opening of Gerald Ford School
they now have 150-200 cars speeding down Warner Trail to
drop their children off in the morning and they come
roaring back in the afternoon. Her daughter has
children there and they do car pool . This has become a
major street so there would be cars, but she wanted to
see a stop sign to cut down on the speeding on that
street. She also asked that the block wall be made
smaller because the more wall area there was, the more
graffiti would be out there until the landscaping could
protect it. Otherwise, she was in favor of the school
and wanted to see that corner cleaned up. Once the
property was gated, there wouldn't be all of the kids a
there, the drug deals in the lot or kids climbing the �
roofs and smoking and trying to set fire to the building. �
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MS. KATHY MAGID stated that she also has a home on
� Warner Trail and her children attend school there and
she wanted to re-emphasize that the children were
getting a great education up to sixth grade. They were
learning about politics, the world and she would match
her child against any child in the valley academically
and she felt the school was that important. They agreed
with the four-way stop and Ms . Maloney would do anything
she could to make sure the neighbors were happy and that
the school went in according to schedule. She stated
that now that they knew what the complaints were, they
were easy to resolve. She hoped this proposal would be
approved.
Mr. Brashear stated that he and his wife were also
fortunate to have a child in this school . He felt it
was phenomenal what the school does . He was a
developer, but he was doing this on a gratis basis, as
well as many of the contractors, landscaping, etc . Most
people were donating their time because they believe so
much in this school . As far as the noticing, they
didn't know about the Project Area 4 Committee until a
month ago and they have done everything they could.
There might have been some misunderstandings, but he
felt that was solved. He requested that Ms . Maloney
�rr address the commission on the after school programs and
what she wants to accomplish. She owns the school and
she deserves all the accolades .
MS. ELAINE MALONEY stated that she was the owner and
director of the Montessori School of the Valley. Their
academic day was from 8 : 30 a.m. to 2 : 30 p.m. Monday
through Friday. They offer an after school program from
2 : 30 p.m. to 5 : 30 p.m. currently. There were enrichment
classes in ballet, theater, Tae Kwon-Do and tutoring.
The numbers of children involved in these classes were
around 10-15 daily. The children were enrolled in the
school so they remained in the school . There was no
traffic delivering these children and the children were
promptly picked up at 5 : 30 p.m. She hoped to extend
this year until 6 : 00 p.m.
Commissioner Campbell asked if there were would be more than
20 children after school, and if they would be inside and not
on the playground. Ms . Maloney concurred, and indicated that
if they did go outdoors for refreshments or for art work
there wouldn't be any more than eight to ten at a time.
Chairperson Beaty closed the public hearing and asked for
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commission comments .
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Commissioner Jonathan stated that he was satisfied that the
applicant did an effective job in mitigating the concerns of �
the residents . He was a little disappointed in the process
and lack of communication, but we would learn and we go
along. He felt that because of the possibility of special
events, more than 22 spaces were needed, especially if the
school grows . He wanted to see 30 spaces and he understood
that this would not be a problem because the spaces were
there. He has had children in school for many years and
there always seemed to be special events and assemblies or
award ceremonies or Christmas programs or athletic
competitions and in those instances he didn't want to see car
parking spilling over into the streets and surrounding
neighborhoods . He suggested 30 parking spaces . Regarding
hours of operation, he felt going to 6 : 00 p.m. made sense on
weekdays and had no problem with expanding those hours .
Condition 15 limiting this to a Montessori School he felt was
inappropriate. If it was going to have a permitted school
use, it should just be a permitted school use . It was
operating under a conditional use permit so if another school
should take over the site, there would be a vehicle for
complaints . Mr. Drell said that if there were complaints the
commission could review it, but the condition provided for an
automatic review if they change tenants . Commission would
have the opportunity to review immediately any change in
tenant. Commissioner Jonathan understood staff ' s �
recommendation but he felt that condition was unwarranted
because the use was under a conditional use permit and if
there was another operator of the educational facility and
that operator was not as neighborly as the existing operator,
because there was a conditional use permit there was a built-
in mechanism for complaints to be heard and for effective
action to be taken. He was also concerned about the limit of
20 children if they ran into a situation where future success
necessitated 22 or 23 children, so he would like to see that
condition raised to 30 children. With those suggestions, he
felt the applicant had done a good, effective job listening
to and hearing the concerns of the residents . It was clearly
an educational program that was beneficial to the community
of Palm Desert and the Coachella Valley and commended all
those involved. He was prepared to move for approval as
amended.
Commissioner Campbell concurred and was in favor of the 30
spaces . Also, the fenced wall in a form that is most
appropriate with the security gates . She had no problem with
the extended hours to 6 : 00 p.m. as far as there being no more
than eight to ten children outside during those after school
hours . Her son went to a private school up to the ninth
grade and she felt it was the best education children could '
have. As to the traffic, she did live in Desert Breezes and �
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she went back and forth on Fred Waring and didn't see a
�'" problem with a stop sign at Fred Waring and Mountain View.
She didn't feel it was the parents creating the traffic
probZem on Fred Waring, but the other speeders going from
Fred Waring to Country Club. She was in favor of the
project.
Commissioner Fernandez stated that he was also in favor of
the project and he agreed with Commissioners Jonathan and
Campbell as far as the extended hours and 30 children
outside. He felt they were doing a great job that was good
for the community and he supported the project.
Chairperson Beaty concurred. He didn't feel that the number
of cars that the school would generate would be a significant
contributor to the traffic problem. He noted that this
street was being looked at by the traf f ic engineer and it has
been targeted by the police department and they were trying
to get some additional enforcement and hoped that situation
wouZd improve in the future.
Mr. Drell noted that the applicant mentioned the construction
of a wall for the adjacent property owner across the parking
lot. Mr. Brashear felt that Ms . Delong wanted gates,
ingress/egress and a wall in front of her house on Mountain
` View. Mr. Drell noted that would be an additional condition.
Commissioner Jonathan stated that he would make a formal
motion including amending condition 8 to provide for 30
spaces, condition 6 to provide for hours of operation from
8: 00 a.m. to 6 :00 p.m. on weekdays and removing condition 15
regarding the limitation to Montessori School and amending
condition 14 to allow up to 30 children on the playground and
adding a condition regarding the gates and wall on Mountain
View. Chairperson Beaty asked if the commission would have
a problem with leaving condition 15 in the conditions .
Commissioner Jonathan stated that he would suggest removing
that limitation of a Montessori School only because he felt
it was overly restrictive because there was a conditional use
permit that allows them to review it if there is a problem.
He felt the commission needed to look at the use, not the
user.
Mr. Brashear asked if the commission was going to add a
condition regarding the stop sign. Chairperson Beaty said it
would not be a condition, it would be studied by the city to
see if it was warranted. Mr. Gaugush said that was correct.
The city has looked at other locations on Warner Trail with
respect to the multi-way stops . They didn' t meet the
� necessary warrants and staff would eontinue to study and
observe Warner Trail. In the event that a need developed,
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the city would proceed at that time. Chairperson Beaty again �
noted that the city has targeted Warner Trail as a speeding �
area and have asked for increased surveillance. Mr. Smith
noted that in condition 7 after the word "design" in the
second line needed the additional words "slump stone wall
interspersed with open wrought iron sections" . Commission
concurred and the motion was amended.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Commissioner
Fernandez, approving the findings as presented by staff.
Carried 4-0 .
Moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Commissioner
Fernandez, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1739,
approving CUP 96-12, subject to conditions as amended.
Carried 4-0 .
B. Case No. CUP 96-16 - MONTEREY PARTNERS, LTD. , Applicant
Request for approval of a conditional
use permit to allow the operation of a
1575 square foot Togo' s sandwiches/
salads restaurant with sale of beer and t
wine in an existing building in the �
Plaza de Monterey center at the
southeast corner of Monterey Avenue and
Country Club Drive.
Mr. Smith said that the request was to locate a new Togo' s
Restaurant in the octagonal-shaped building located midway in
the center. He noted that Wendy' s in January 1995 was
reviewed by the commission for that location. At that time
the commission heard various concerns from the area
residents . They were enumerated in the staff report. Staff
felt those matters had been addressed and commission
concurred with staf f and commission approved Wendy' s for this
location subject to conditions . The commission' s action was
appealed to the city council. The appeal was upheld, meaning
that Wendy' s was not approved for that location. Four
concerns enumerated by the city council were that there was
an odor problem in the neighborhood that could be exacerbated
by the new Wendy' s; there was a parking problem that could be
exacerbated; there was an existing trash problem which could
be exacerbated; and that the existing center was congested,
which could be further exacerbated. The applicant which is
the center operator wishes approval for Togo' s at 1,575 x
square feet. This compares to the 2, 100 square foot proposal
by Wendy' s . The floor plan was on display. The request
would include the sale of beer and wine. Total seating would
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be 40 persons . Hours af operation would be from 10 : 30 a.m.
� until 8 : 00 p.m. weekdays, 10 : 30 a.m. until 9 : 00 p.m. on
weekends. There would be no cooking. The bread was baked
elsewhere and delivered to this site. It was a sandwich and
salad shop so there was no grease trap/interceptor, no
ventilation hood, no gas service. They would have a
commercial microwave oven. Essentially, staff felt that the
reasons given for the denial of Wendy' s have been addressed
with this new proposal . Regarding the odor, they would not
be addinq to it because there was no cooking. Staff did a
parking survey beginning April 8 . There were a total of 61
available parking spaces . Staff found that between 11 : 30
a.m. and 1: 15 p.m. weekdays there was an average of 28 vacant
spaces in that area. When staff looked at it in December of
1994 for the Wendy' s proposal, there was about 35 vacant
spaces but they expanded the area they were looking at to
also include the spaces to the east of the driveway. At that
time they were looking at a possible 103 spaces . If
anything, the percentage of vacant parking has increased.
Vacant spaces ranged from 23 to 37 out of the total 61 . For
a restaurant of this size, if it was a stand alone staff
would be looking for 16 parking spaces, 1 per 100 . The area
staff looked at was reasonable in that it was approximately
within 120 feet of the restaurant itself . With respect to
the trash problem, after council rejected the Wendy' s
� proposal, staff inet with the center representative, Mr.
Spinello, who would address the commission and he did look
into the trash problem at that point. Essentially what they
were able to do was go in and without changing the trash
container unit (the containers were in-ground) they were able
to increase the size of the dumpsters because the holes were
deeper than the containers they were using at that point.
They achieved additional capacity, and where necessary ( i .e.
the Kenny Roger' s area) they increased the pickup frequency
as well . Code Enforcement advises that the complaints about
the trash there have decreased. Mr. Smith viewed the parking
lot for four Mondays and the trash bin in front of this
location was full every Monday at noon. In talking with Code
Compliance they felt it was weekenders from the community
stopping by to drop off their trash as they left town. As a
condition, staff was requiring that they increase the
capacity of that location. He felt that with a use there
until 9 :00 p.m. on Sunday nights that problem might be
avoided. He noted with the addition of Togo' s there would
only be a restaurant mix of less than 14� in the center.
Typically the city allowed up to 20$ restaurant use in the
overall mix. The city needed to be especially careful
because the restaurants that were there were very successful .
Basically staff did not feel this use would add to the odor,
� congestion, parking and trash problem with this use. Staff
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recommended approval subject to the conditions in the draft �
resolution. �
Chairperson Beaty opened the public hearing and asked the
applicant to address the commission.
MR. SAM SPINELLO, 74-947 Highway 111 in Indian Wells,
stated that he was the applicant. He noted that their
goal was to tenant the building in a way that would not
infringe upon the neighboring community or the existing
tenants, while putting in another tenant to generate
income for the owner. The first issue at hand was to
look a� the industries already represented in their
shopping center and not infringe upon their livelihood.
It was difficult with a center like this with as many
shops as this one represents . First they were charged
with finding a use that would not infringe on those
existing tenants . They have done that in that this one
didn't directly effect any other tenant from their core
business standpoint. Looking at the other issues
brought up from Wendy' s like congestion, smell, trash
and parking, they have attempted to mitigate that. He
said they filtered through many uses before coming back
with Togo' s . This was a neighborhood shopping center
and primarily serviced this immediate area and they �
didn' t want to infringe upon their comforts of living. �
He felt they have picked a use that would be compatible.
Chairperson Beaty indicated that he was not familiar with
Togo 's and asked if it compared to a Subway Sandwich Shop.
Mr. Spinello said it was very comparable. There currently
weren't any Togo' s in the desert, although there would be one
to follow in Palm Springs . He had gone out of the area to
bring one here. It was similar to a Subway but with a little
more pizazz/ambience.
Commissioner Campbell asked if there would be any complaints
from Lucky' s since they also serve sandwiches and salads .
Mr. Spinello replied that typically there weren' t problems
with larger stores because this was such a small portion of
their sales . If they were to infringe upon a key tenant,
they would be in for a real fight and they would have stopped
immediately. Commissioner Campbell asked if the restaurant
would only involve those locals that were there or if
customers would be coming from other professional offices to
buy sandwiches and salads . That would add to the traffic
there. Mr. Spinello felt they could expect a fair amount of
people from outside the immediate community to come to this �
location. ;
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Chairperson Beaty asked if anyone wished to address the
rr.. commission in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposal .
MR. BOB SCHREIBER, a resident of 40-027 Sagewood, which
sits behind the Plaza de Monterey shopping center. He
said that he was here to give the commission a slice of
the nightmare that it was like living with this shopping
center and Monterey Partners as their neighbor. They
were awakened this morning at 6 :45 a.m. when the street
sweeper came through f or the f ourth or f i f th time in s ix
days . It was not only a street sweeper trying to keep
up with the trash and garbage, but it was an air blower.
They play a game with them because they knew that before
7 : 00 or 8 :00 a.m. the code enforcement officers weren' t
out and they knew that the response time from the
Sheriff ' s Department was at least 15-30 minutes if they
were lucky, especially with this type of priority. They
decided to sneak in 15 to 20 minutes early before the
street sweepers were allowed. The homes along this wall
rumble and shake several times a week. Kenny Roger' s
Roasters who supposedly mitigated what they were
supposed to be doing had delivery on Tuesday nights and
Friday nights . They were very nice and decided to
change their delivery schedule from 2 : 00 a.m. or 3 : 00
a.m. where a Mack truck was parked 25 feet from his
�r.. bedroom window with a refrigerator on, shaking. They
have decided they would be magnanimous and go within the
10 : 00 limit and they would park there about 9 : 45 and
sometimes carry through until 10 : 30 or 11 : 00 . Again
knowing that by the time the deputy sheriff got there
that it would be too late. He has only managed to take
three or four hours off work one day to actually camp
out and wait for a sheriff ' s deputy to come and site a
noise violator for the sweeping. They managed to get on
ticket last month. They call whenever they can. They
were not flatly ignored, they were apologized to, but it
was never ending. Whoever came up with the idea of
circling a few parking spaces on a map and saying that
was some sort of scientific study had to be out of their
mind. It was absolutely not a scientific study to
circle an arbitrary 61 parking spaces and say they
looked at the area from 10:00 a.m. to 1 : 00 p.m. , which
was the absolute quietest time of the day in that
shopping center. He stated that he would love for the
commission to go to this center right now and see if
they could even move without getting hit by a car while
walking to try and find a space or to try and go to any
of the restaurants there. He knew that they tried to be
good neighbors by cleaning up, which is why they have
the sweepers there four times a week instead of the once
°ir or twice a week, but it was almost a comic response when
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they try and voice their concerns to the Sheriff ' s �
Department or to Code Enforcement. They have been �
handled politely, but it was a nightmare. Their home
absolutely vibrated, shakes, shudders and thunders four-
six times a week, usually at 6 : 30 a.m. to 7 : 00 a.m. and
10 : 00 p.m. to 12 : 00 a.m. The employees from Papa Dan' s
and Kenny Roger's restaurants have boom boxes in their
cars and they fire them up every night. He gets ready
at 10 : 00 p.m. because the employees were firing up their
boom boxes and it was a nightmare living there. The
response they have gotten was hands up in the air.
Kenny Roger' s is a successful restaurant with a nice
clientele of people and they go there themselves . The
trash problem has not been taken care of . Cockroaches
and vermin come right over the wall into the Sagewood
development. Papa Dan's actually take their mats out
back from the restaurant kitchen and hose them down.
The employees camp out in the back smoking, throwing
trash every single day and night. It is never ending.
He felt he was the only person in Sagewood that received
a notice since he asked several neighbors and no one
else even knew about this meeting. He happened to get
one in his mail box three or four weeks ago. He didn't
know why no one else was notified. He felt they were �
under siege to have to respond to this and give up a
night with his children at the ballfield to address �
something that was supposedly taken care of . They were
happy when the council addressed this and he said that
the council was horrified to hear that trucks actually
parked to make deliveries in the evening hours. They
actually came to a compromise not to do it at 2 : 00-3 : 00
a.m. but at 9 :00 p.m. or 10 :00 p.m. They thought it was
taken care when Wendy's was denied. He felt that 2, 100
square feet was not substantially larger than 1,575
square feet. Just because someone wouldn't be preparing
their food there today didn't mean they wouldn' t be
preparing it there tomorrow. They felt insulted that
they had to come to the planning commission to keep
defending their diminishing property rights .
Commissioner Campbell asked if Mr. 5chreiber moved into his
home prior to the Lucky' s center being built. Mr. Schreiber
replied no, but they moved in prior to Kenny Roger' s Roasters
moving in. There was a little office section there and no
restaurants there. It was perfectly quiet. He said it
wouldn't surprise him to find out that the people who sold
him the home knew about Kenny Roger's, but they decided to
live with it and haven't taken legal action against anyone. ;
They tried to address the concerns as neighbors . The
management at Kenny Roger's Roasters were absolutely hostile
and laugh in their faces if they call and complain about the
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music being played in the employees ' cars . They were aware
�+ the center was there when they moved in and they checked it
out. It only had office uses and that didn' t pose any
problems . Kenny Roger's was a nice operation with a nice
clientele and nice food, but it has lots of problems . The
odor from Kenny Roger' s in combination wi�h Papa Dan' s and
several other restaurants was something they lived with also.
The noise of the delivery trucks and street sweepers was
unbearable and devastated the property. He wished the
commission could visit on the nights they make deliveries and
see where they park the Mack trucks . When they asked if the
trucks could park on Country Club they were told it wouldn't
happen. The delivery trucks only opened in such a way so
that they have to pull in on that side of the restaurant and
he was being unreasonable to suggest that they pull up on
Country Club Drive. This is the way it has been. At 6 : 30
a.m. there was air blower not more than 20-30 feet from his
bedroom window four time a week. That was probably in
violation of the noise ordinance, but they say it 's part of
the sweeping operation. It has been terrorizing to their
home. He didn't know what to do about it and was shocked
that within one year they already have to come back and
defend it again.
Commissioner Jonathan asked if Mr. Schreiber was a member of
� the Sagewood Board. Mr. Schreiber replied no. Commissioner
Jonathan asked if Mr. Schreiber knew if the board was
apprised of this and if they have addressed the issue. Mr.
Schreiber did not. He hadn't talked to anyone on the board,
but would be happy to try and get a hold of them.
MRS. LISA SCHREIBER stated that everything her husband
said was true and they were worried that this was going
to be another restaurant. The manager of the shopping
center tries to be supportive and says that restaurants
were much harder because they were more dirty since they
were dealing with food, insects, trash and smell
problems . It wasn't like an office that was open from
9 : 00 a.m. to 5 : 00 p.m. There were deliveries coming in
at all hours and it was difficult because they thought
it had been worked out. The parking was so full that
she didn't know where people were expected to park.
Mr. Spinello readdressed the commission and said that
regarding the issues brought up here like the air
blower, truck refrigerator, those were issues that might
exist but he couldn't really comment further on them.
Regarding this possibly turning into a cooking
restaurant, he felt that would require further review of
� the conditional use permit.
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Mr. Smith concurred and noted that condition 6 of the �
resolution stated that Togo' s restaurant shall conduct no �
cooking on this site. The facility shall have no grease
interceptor and/or ventilation hoods .
Mr. Spinello said they wouldn' t be able to change into
a business that would become offensive in that fashion.
They would have to come back before the commission again
for review. He said he was well aware of the truck
refrigeration units, noise and air blower. He was
notified that morning because the property manager has
tried very hard and has done a very effective job of
maintaining the problems and issues here in the center
and a couple of days ago they had a contract drawn for
a new company to do the maintenance of the blowing and
sweeping and apparently over the last couple of weeks
they have been doing it at improper times and they were
reprimanded more than once. He felt they had a problem
there and the new company needed to know how important
it was to follow certain guidelines . He was notified
that that had occurred a couple of times and they were
working on making sure they follow the guidelines given
to them. He said this was a neighborhood shopping
center close to homes and keeping it operating as a
neighborhood shopping center next to a residential �
community was a difficult issue. He said the proposed �
use was away from the residential area and next to the
street. It didn't limit what they should do as far as
their efforts in mitigating the problems that have been
voiced tonight, but most of the problems came from the
ones that were the closest to the wall . He acknowledged
that those problems do exist, as they did within every
neighborhood shopping center that has certain uses, and
trucks and services that needed to be provided there to
service those businesses . The people that work in those
businesses and peopie that come to buy things from the
businesses created problems and as managers they had to
work as best they could to keep things to a minimum.
Their property manager has tried very hard in this case
to bring things under control .
Commissioner Campbell asked if he was going to try a little
harder as far as the delivery trucks and sweeping was
concerned. Mr. Spinello said that certainly the sweeping
should be solved very quickly. The property manager has
jumped right on that one and it has actually occurred twice.
He thought his property manager was a strong manager and
could stop that one. He did not know if the delivery issue :
could be altered. Commissioner Campbell asked about the boom �
boxes and talking to the manager of Kenny Roger' s . Mr. �
Spinello said that the property manager could put that on her
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list to work on as well . That was the first time he has
'� heard that problem, although he could see instances where
that would occur when the employees get off work and want to
unwind and they did it in the parking lot. He said that she
has been very effective; she just doesn't talk but they do
get action and they try their best to stop those problems .
Chairperson Beaty noted that the comment was made that no one
else was noticed and asked staff to describe the noticing
procedure. Mr. Smith stated that the legal notice was mailed
to property owners within 300 feet--they went to Mr. Wong,
Mr. Cassak, Mr. Packard, Mr. Dorfner, Mr. Hill, Mr. Yeager,
Mr. Tanner, Mr. Schreiber, Mr. or Mrs . Kuda and the Silktree
Homeowners Association, plus companies that own property in
the area. Chairperson Beaty asked if these people had
similar complaints . He didn't think the Togo' s proposal was
creating the problem that the Schreibers were experiencing
and he was very concerned about the problems created by Kenny
Roger's and asked if the city had some recourse. Mr. Drell
stated that there were delivery restrictions on that center.
Chairperson Beaty asked what would happen if they were
violated. Mr. Drell said that technically they could call up
the entire precise plan for the whole center and find a way.
He was a little disturbed with the applicant saying that he
didn't know how to enforce those conditions . Those were
�► conditions that have been on the center since the beginning
and the original concern was deliveries to Lucky' s . They
would apply to any tenant and it was the job of the property
owners to make sure they are enforced. If not, the city
could and would pursue action against them. There were
complaints before about noise emanating from Papa Dan' s and
Papa Dan' s was also there on a conditional use permit. Any
of those specific restaurants that weren' t controlling their
employees and were creating a nuisance to those adjacent
property owners were a problem and it would behoove the
property owner to make sure his tenants comply with
requirements of the center or else there would be a problem
for those tenants .
Chairperson Beaty suggested that the Schreibers talk to their
Board of Directors and start noting violations and keep a
record of it and if action is not taken he wauld encourage
them to contact city staff and pursue what Mr. Drell just
outlined.
Mr. Schreiber stated that they have contacted staff for
close to three years on this issue and he could say that
Papa Dan' s was equally responsible for the lack of
control over their employees as was Kenny Roger' s . He
� noted that Mr. Drell said there was a delivery schedule
set up for the center. The last time they tried to talk
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about that no one could seem to come up with an actual �
answer to that issue. That surprised him at the time ,r,�
and he was glad to hear that there were actual rules and
restrictions . It wouldn't surprise him if a 9 :00 p.m. ,
10 : 00 p.m. or 11 : 00 p.m. delivery was absolutely
prohibited. He was actually told that this applied to
Lucky' s but not to any of the other tenants and that
didn' t seem reasonable to them. They want to be good
neighbors . The people that were mailed the notices,
probably three of them were tenant occupied. There were
a 100 homes in Sagewood, so if six, eight, ten or twelve
homeowners got notices, that was a small percentage of
the 100. They did not receive a notice from their
homeowners association about this hearing. They wanted
to be good neighbors, loved the neighborhood and would
be happy to work with someone that actually has an ear
and power.
Mr. Drell suggested that if the neighbors were willing to put
in the time, that a meeting be put together between the
management of the center, management from Kenny Roger' s,
management from Papa Dan's, and Mr. Spinello to try to get
together and figure out how he can comply with the conditions
of his project. Mr. Schreiber stated that he would also like =
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to see someone do a more scientific approach to the parking �
situation. Mr. Drell stated that for this sandwich place,
the primary peak usage was lunch, therefore staff looked at
the parking situation at lunch. This permit only applies to
Togo's which is a lunch place, therefore they looked at their
availability at lunch time.
Chairperson Beaty closed the public hearing and asked for
comments from the commission.
Commissioner Campbell said that after reviewing the menu/
brochure and the location of the Togo's Restaurant she didn 't
feel that it would influence Mr. Schreiber' s home. Also,
there wouldn't be any cooking facilities in the restaurant.
She noted that the busiest time was during lunch and she has
been in that center at other times during the afternoon and
hadn't seen a parking problem. She was in favor of the
project.
Commissioner Fernandez stated that he was also in favor of
the project. He has visited the center in the evenings and
at Kenny Roger' s it was difficult to find any parking. That
was a real concern. He hoped that Mr. Schreiber would get
together with the management of the center and discuss some
of the concerns and if those concerns were brought to the
city, they would focus on that and take care of it. He was
in favor of the Togo' s Restaurant.
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Commissioner Jonathan noted that Sagewood was built in the
� early 1980 's and most of the homes were completed between
1980-82 and it preceded the Lucky's shopping center. The
Lucky's center since its inception has had a terrible history
of problems and they have only gotten worse with time and
with the increase in tenants . The landscaping never looked
like it did on the drawings and it got worse from day one.
There is inadequate parking for existing uses, much less when
the place gets filled up. Traffic circulation was
abominable. Cars backed out of spaces in front of Lucky's,
there were always cars stopped in the fire lanes and it was
a poor layout and anything that happens in that center just
makes it worse. He noted that until a year ago he was a
resident of Sagewood for 11 years and he was very familiar
with the problems of living there. He was one of the
residents far away, so he wasn't directly effected, but he
knew from his neighbors what terrible problems they
experienced. He noted a saying that says that the road to
hell is paved with good intentions and they always heard that
the management would try to fix this and try to fix that but
they never did. He didn't have a problem with this
application, but it was the straw that would break the
camel ' s back and he felt the city council was right when they
said no way to Wendy' s . If this application goes through
tonight, he hoped the city council would do the same thing.
� He personally would be in favor of the applicant requesting
an extension to see if they can come up with a comprehensive
plan to satisfy the needs of the Sagewood residents once and
for all and take care of it. It could be done. If they
manage other properties they knew it could be done and it
should be done in order to be a good neighbor and to simply
do the right thing. He encouraged the applicant to request
an extension to meet with the homeowners association board of
directors to resolve the problems once and for all . Short of
that, he could not approve this application for the reasons
cited.
Chairperson Beaty stated that he was in agreement with
Commissioner Jonathan. He was not sure it was fair to hold
up the Togo's application, but there was a history of
problems that haven't been addressed and should be addressed.
He was in concurrence that the applicant come up with a plan
to assure the commission that the center would not continue
to be a problem.
Mr. Spinello said that last time when they came before
with the city with Wendy' s they heard all of these
problems and they did attempt and were successful in
fixing these matters . Some still do exist, but there
� was only one group that showed up at the meeting tonight
whereas before the place was packed with many more
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people. They didn't put up much of a fight then and ,�
clearly saw they had a problem and had been beaten, so �
they went back and started working on those problems .
The property manager has been given specific
instructions and made a specific effort to fix the
problems that were detailed here. They had been
successful which is why there weren't many people here
tonight. Those efforts have been made and they were
successful .
Commissioner Jonathan noted if that was the case, then Mr.
Spinello' s task should be simple and it would be a slam dunk.
He noted that the applicant could either request an extension
or the commission would take a vote. Mr. Drell clarified
that what the commission was suggesting was that before they
make a decision on this application, that they work out some
of these problems . Mr. Spinello asked if the specific
direction was to go get the approval of the Sagewood Board.
Commissioner Jonathan stated that he also needed to work out
the problems with his neighbors . Chairperson Beaty also
suggested that he bring the commission some assurance from
some of the other people who were noticed that the problems
are under control . He would like to hear from some of the
other neighbors that things were better. Mr. Spinello
replied that even though they weren't here tonight, he still ;
had to come back with positive proof that they have solved �
the problems which he said they have. Chairperson Beaty
replied yes, that was what he and Commissioner Jonathan were
asking for. He was not at all comforted with the attitude or
the comments that he was hearing from the applicant that
there was no problem, since the commission was hearing that
there were problems from a resident. Chairperson Beaty asked
if he would like a continuation. Mr. Spinello requested a
continuation to June 4, 1996 .
Chairperson Beaty reopened the public hearing and asked for
a motion of continuance.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Commissioner
Campbell, continuing CUP 96-16 to June 4 , 1996 by minute
motion. Carried 4-0 .
C. Case No. PP 96-4 - OLIPHANT/MATZNER, Applicants
Request for approval of a precise plan
to allow the conversion and remodel of
an existing 2032 square foot duplex to >
an office and a 775 square foot addition :
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at 44-311 Monterey Avenue in the O.P.
'� zone.
Mr. Drell noted that this was a remodel and addition of an
old building in a professional office zone. It was in
conjunction with a building the commission approved at the
last meeting. It met all the goals of development for
Monterey. It was consistent with the rear parking area, the
architecture was compatible, and staff recommended approval .
Chairperson Beaty opened the public hearing and asked the
applicant to address the commission.
MR. WESLEY OLIPHANT, 77-900 Avenue of the States, stated
that it was nice to have a project where there was
agreement with the neighbors and everyone was happy to
see an improvement. He agreed with all of the
conditzons and he was present to answer any questions .
Chairperson Beaty asked if anyone wished to addressed the
commission in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposal . There was
no one and the public testimony was closed. Chairperson
Beaty asked for commission comments or a motion.
Action:
�""' Moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner
Fernandez, approving the findings as presented by staff.
Carried 4-0 .
Moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner
Fernandez, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1740,
approving PP 96-4, subject to conditions . Carried 4-0.
D. Case Nos . C/Z 96-2 and Addendum to PP 95-8 and PMW 95-23
- DR. SURESH SHAH/NARENDRA PATEL, Applicants
Request for approval of a Negative Declaration of
Enviranmental Impact, change of zone from R-3
(multifamily residential) to O.P. (office professional) ,
revised precise plan of design for a 31, 180 square foot
two story office building and parcel map waiver to
consolidate five (5) lots on the south side of Fred
Waring Drive, west of San Pascual Avenue.
Mr. Smith noted that the plans were on display and indicated
that in November the commission looked at a proposal from Dr.
Shah that encompassed the three interior lots . At that point
they were loaking at a 16,700 square foot two story building.
,� The matter went to council in December where it was approved.
In March of this year the city received a request to expand
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on that approval, so the commission was now reviewing a zone j
change on two more lots and a revision to the building plan �
that was approved in November. Essentially the architecture
was similar to the earlier proposal . The building was
stretched. Formerly both accesses were on Fred Waring Drive.
The proposal now was to have one access from Fred Waring with
a two-way driveway through to San Pascual Avenue. There was
a short dead-end parking situation serving 17 parking spaces
at the east end of the site. When the matter was before
Architectural Review, the site plan did not look like this .
It had pushed the building back and brought in a row of
parking across the front. The architectural commission was
not prepared to go anywhere with a site plan in that
situation. The app].icant submitted the revised plan. The
revised plans have not been before architectural review, but
staff was reasonably comfortable that this was the direction
they wanted the applicant to proceed in. The developments to
the west of this new five lot configuration are the apartment
units across there. This took in that whole section of land
and afforded the opportunity of removing the apartment units
on the lot at the corner at San Pascual . They were
accomplishing several goals from the Palma Village Plan. The
site plan provided for 114 parking spaces and the ordinance
requires 114 . Assuming a gross building area of 26 ,503 �
square feet in that there was considerable non-leasable area, �
the ordinance permitted them to delete from the total so they
were looking at general office use limited to 18,500 square
feet, which was calculated at four spaces per 1,000, and
medical offices to a total of 8,003 square feet which brought
the total requirement to 114 parking spaces. The zone change
is consistent with the General Plan Land Use Designation for
the area. Staff felt the architecture was of a high quality
and would compliment the Civic Center area. The applicant
has filed a parcel map to consolidate the lots which would be
necessary to achieve this goal . Condition 5 of the draft
resolution limited medical offices to a maximum of 8,003
square feet. Staff recommended approval of the zone change
for the additional two lots and the addendum to the precise
plan for the expanded plan.
Commissioner Jonathan asked for clarification as to allowing
a certain amount of parking in one application to be
designated for office use at a rate of 4/1,000 for one
portion and another portion as medical at 5/1, 000 . Mr. Smith
explained that there was a requirement for medical offices in
excess of 2,200 square feet to be parked at the rate of
5/1,000 . It wouldn't apply to the whole building in that
there were blends of uses everywhere. Where it was �
reasonable to distinguish between the two, staff did ( i .e. a �
furniture store and a restaurant) . If there was a myriad of
uses, it became more difficult to administer and staff looked �
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at a broader category. Nothing in the ordinance precludes
� staff from doing this . Commissioner Jonathan asked how staff
could monitor compliance. Mr. Smith replied through business
licenses . A tenant has to bring a Certificate of Conformance
to staff when completing a business license. On it they were
required to indicate the area they were leasing and the
number of employees they were anticipating, as well as the
type of use.
Commissioner Campbell asked if there would be a change to the
intersection at Fred Waring and San Pascual after this
building would be built. Mr. Gaugush stated that they didn ' t
anticipate any changes. Commissioner Campbell asked if a
customer leaving the project wanted to go west, if they would
still have to go down to Portola and make a U-turn. Mr.
Gaugush stated that was correct. He said that there could
also be an additional movement by exiting onto Fred Waring
and making a U-turn at San Pascual . Mr. Smith noted that it
was a permitted movement at this time.
Chairperson Beaty opened the public hearing and asked the
applicant to address the commission.
MR. NARENDRA PATEL, the architect for the project,
stated that this would be a substantial improvement to
'� the vacant property and he took into consideration the
General Plan, the general use, and the architecture for
the Civic Center and designed this building to be
complimentary and consistent with the building across
from them. At the same time it would improve the
surrounding property and the existing vacant area in
addition to removing the deteriorating building that
exists now at the corner of 5an Pascual and Fred Waring
Drive. Combining all five lots together and making this
one project would be a great improvement to the city.
He asked for any questions .
Commissioner Jonathan asked for confirmation that Mr. Patel
understood that by providing 114 parking spaces, he would be
limited to medical use to 8,003 square feet. Mr. Patel
stated that he understood that it would be approved on a case
by case basis . Every time there was a tenant that moved in
they would come in for approval . Mr. Drell clarified that
the limit was up to 8,003 square feet. If he wanted more
than 8,003 square feet he would have to come back to Planning
Commission to get the condition changed. Mr. Patel stated
that he understood.
Chairperson Beaty asked if anyone wished to address the
� commission in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposal .
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MR. CRAIG YOUNT, a resident at 43-885 Carmel Circle, �
stated that he lived in the corner house pointing �
directly at the project. He felt that this project
would take his view of �he mountains away and he was
concerned about not reconstructing Fred Waring at San
Pablo. He felt it was a dangerous intersection already.
There have been many accidents, people turn when they
are not supposed to turn and the speed on Fred Waring
was a problem. He was at that intersection three and
four times a day. He personally had not seen the Palm
Desert plan, but wanted to know if this area was going
to be the downtown area soon. He felt the city was
encroaching into his residential area with this downtown
area. He was sure his property value would be going
down. He felt the Civic Center park, City Hall and
Sheriff 's building was really nice, soft on the eyes and
designed very well . He stated that he was a plastering
contractor for Plaster Direct Centers so he was all for
new construction, but he worried about his city and
spends his money in this city and he was concerned about
the area. If the city was changing this zone to office
spaces, he worried about what would happen right behind
him, across the street from him, and on down. That was
the future and he was concerned about that. He was
trying to get a look at the building to see if it was �
soft enough. He said he looks at plans every day and he
estimated three great big projects like this in the last
month in the Coachella Valley, so there must be a need
for them. He was concerned about the need for a stop
sign or some kind of thing there. He didn't feel it was
looked into deep enough and suggested that staff go to
the police station to find out how many accidents were
happened there. He asked if this had to go to two
stories and asked them to cut it down to one. He liked
to sit on his back porch, he smoked his pipe and looked
at the mountains and he felt this project would take
that away from him.
DR. SURESH SHAH, the developer of the project, stated
that he heard the concerns expressed but wanted to bring
it to the commission' s attention that this property was
already an R-3 designated area, so it was already
approved for two story use. There were apartments west
of this project that were two story. Also, there were
apartments at the corner in a very run down condition
and the city planning department encouraged him to
acquire that area and demolish it to improve the site
because the apartments were about 30 years old and they �
needed improvements or change, but nothing was done. He �
bought it at a very high price just to clean it up and �
to make the project bigger and make it a clean, nice �
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looking building for the whole area. He felt the
r"" concern about the two story should not be a major issue.
They put the building in such a way that it was a very
long, narrow building so that it didn't go in the back
towards the residents on the Santa Rosa side. It was
far away from the Santa Rosa people and it wouldn't be
an invasion of their privacy. The architecture was very
nicely done and he felt the city would be proud of this
building which would improve this site.
Chairperson Beaty closed the public testimony and asked for
commission comments or action.
Commissioner Campbell stated that she was glad to see that
Dr. Shah bought the apartments on the corner plus the other
run-down home. The way the building would be constructed, he
would not invade the privacy of the homeowners on Santa Rosa.
Commissioner Jonathan said that in response to Mr. Yount 's
comments, Mr. Yount was in part of the Palma Village area and
part of the Palm Village Specific Plan was to create a buffer
zone as they go from major street ta commercial to
residential . There was a tremendous amount ot sensitivity to
the two story feature and one of those mitigating
requirements was that there be no windows looking directly
°�' down from the second story to single family residences . Mr.
Drell clarified that this project looked down at some
apartments . The zoning behind it was for apartments and
staff anticipated that they would be two story apartments .
Commissioner Jonathan noted that the sensitivity there was to
insure that privacy was maintained in homes such as Mr.
Yount' s. Mr. Drell noted that Mr. Yount' s property was a
block away on the north side of Fred Waring. Mr. Smith
indicated that there was a single family home on the
northeast corner lot at Fred Waring and San Pascual . He also
pointed out that having the R-1 area, which Carmel Circle
was, would limit development on the north side oF Fred Waring
to single story, and 18 feet maximum height. Assuming they
get something in that range, with the distance another 150
feet to this building, it won' t be seen from the gentleman' s
backyard. Commissioner Jonathan clarified that this was not
developing into a downtown area. It was certainly an office
professional corridor and it was intended to be that way
because they didn't want to put more single family homes on
a street like Fred Waring, so there was some good
forethought. He encouraged Mr. Yount to continue attending
the meetings to let the commission know how he feels, but in
this case he should not run into a problem.
� Commissioner Fernandez stated that he was in favor of the
project and felt it would enhance Fred Waring.
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Action:
Moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner
Fernandez, approving the findings as presented by staff .
Carried 4-0 .
Moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner
Fernandez, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1741,
recommending to city council approval of C/Z 96-2 and
addendum to PP 95-8 and PMW 95-23, subject to conditions .
Carried 4-0 .
E. Case No. C/Z 96-3 - SANTA ROSA COUNTRY CLUB, INC. ,
Applicant
Request for approval of the prezoning of
part of Section 5, T5S R6E to city
zoning Open Space (O.S. ) and a Negative
Declaration of Environmental Impact as
it pertains thereto for an 81+/- acre
site located on the south side of Frank
Sinatra Drive and west of Portola Avenue
(Santa Rosa Country Club) . Purpose of
said prezoning is to facilitate
annexation of site to the city. �
Mr. Smith explained that staff inet with representatives of
Santa Rosa Country Club and Mr. Johnson, et. al . , were
present. They were very interested in annexing their country
club into the city to remain as a golf course, hence they
requested open space zoning. They could have had planned
residential which would be consistent with the General Plan.
They wanted to see their site remain a golf course so they
were asking for open space. The matter will go through the
city council . It has already been through the annexation
committee and they directed staff to proceed. Following the
council confirming the zoning it would then go to LAFCO and
then come back to the city. He felt that maybe around
Christmas time they would be able to say that Santa Rosa
Country Club is in the city. Mr. Smith stated that the
findings could be met and they were outlined in the staff
report. Staff recommended approval .
Chairperson Beaty opened the public hearing and asked if the
applicants wished to address the commission. They declined.
Chairperson Beaty asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION. There was no one and the public hearing was
closed. Chairperson Beaty asked for commission comments or
action. �
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Mr. Smith noted he had received several calls from residents
� of Palm Desert Greens and wanted to state for the record that
this didn't effect Palm Desert Greens.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Commissioner
Campbell, approving the findings as presented by staff .
Carried 4-0 .
Moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Commissioner
Fernandez, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1742,
recommending to city council approval of C/Z 96-3 . Carried
4-0 .
IX. MISCELLANEOUS
A. Case No. CUP 96-4/PP 96-2 - MICHAEL FEDDERLY, Applicant
Request for a determination that an amendment to
condition #8 of Planning Commission Resolution No. 1725
is a director' s modification pursuant to Code Section
25. 72 . 120.
Mr. Smith noted that at the time the city reviewed the
'r conditional use permit for Mr. Fedderly the applicant felt
that providing a ten year lease for the parking was
achievable. The bank was only prepared to grant them a three
year lease, which the commission had a copy of. The
condition was fairly significant, except there was another
condition requiring that the whole matter be reviewed again
in three years . Staff felt that mitigated some of the
concerns for the reduced term of the lease. If commission
had no problem with a director' s modification, which the
ordinance permitted, then staff would just go ahead with it.
If that was not the case and the commission felt this was not
something they wanted staff to do under a director' s
modification, then staff would set the matter for hearing and
bring it back in about four weeks, which would be after the
neighborhood was noticed.
Commissioner Jonathan asked if the commission requested 12 or
14 parking spaces . Mr. Smith clarified that it was 12 as
outlined in condition 8 . Mr. Rudolph stated that the
director' s modification was supposed to apply to minor
revisions so what the commission was being asked to determine
was that this was a minor revision. Chairperson Beaty asked
if Mr. Rudolph had an interpretation for the commission. He
replied no. Chairperson Beaty stated that he didn't have a
� problem with the request since it was returning in three
years . Mr. Drell said that if they couldn' t secure those
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parking spaces, then they were in violation of the
conditional use permit and their leasable area would have to �
be cut back to comply with their onsite parking spaces .
Mr. Dick Baxley stated that he represented Mike
Fedderly, the applicant, and was present to answer any
questions .
There were no questions and Chairperson Beaty asked for a
motion.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Commissioner
Fernandez, determining by minute motion that the requested
amendment to condition #8 of Planning Commission Resolution
1725 to be a minor revision and within the purview of the
director' s modification pursuant to Code Section 25 . 72 . 120 .
Carried 4-0 .
B. Case Nos . C/Z 95-6, TT 28295, and PP 95-10 - FOXX
DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, Applicant
This matter was before Planning Commission December 15,
1995 and February 20, 1996 at which time the case was
continued to a date uncertain. The applicant has now �
filed a written withdrawal of the proposal .
Action:
No further action is necessary.
C. List of Discussion Items for the Joint City Council/
Planning Commission/Economic Development Advisory
Committee Meeting Agenda Scheduled for May 16 , 1996 at
4 :00 p.m. in the Administrative Conference Room.
Chairperson Beaty noted that staff provided commission with
a draft agenda and now was the time to add any items to the
agenda. Mr. Drell indicated that commission could add them
now or before Thursday. Commissioner Jonathan asked if the
summary of project areas and activities included a general
update on approved projects that were under construction,
like the interchanges, the golf course, and those kinds of
issues . Mr. Drell concurred that it would include all of the
city and RDA initiatives in terms of construction. Mr. Drell
noted that Redevelopment 101 would explain how the
redevelopment agency works, how it gets its money, and what
it can and can' t do. Commissioner Jonathan requested that
undergrounding of utilities within the city limits be
included on the agenda. Mr. Drell indicated that a possible ai
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freeway commercial zone has come up. The Steinbergs were in
r... the process of planning their whole frontage of property they
own along the freeway and there have been a lot of inquiries
now that the interchanges were being constructed. He noted
that there was some rather restrictive commercial zoning that
tends to limit the types of uses usually found at offramps
and they might want to look at that. Things like fast food
restaurants and gas stations . He felt it might be a good
idea to talk about this since they would be coming to the
city with some proposals that would be at variance with the
city's current general commercial zoning requirements .
Chairperson Beaty asked if they would get an update on the
school boundary issue. Mr. Drell said he could answer that
right now and stated that staff had anticipated a negative
response from Palm Springs, but got a rather conciliatory
response. P.S.U.S.D. hired an economic consultant and Palm
Desert did a projection of what they thought the ultimate
buildout would be relative to how much revenue producing
commercial there would be, how much country club residential
that wouldn't produce children would be, how many children
were estimated for the area, and Palm 5prings was reviewing
it. Basically it was a matter of money. They needed a deal
that would give Desert Sands enough money to serve the
educational needs and Palm Springs enough money to meet their
`•. financial projection. Relative to the joint meeting, Mr.
Drell felt staff would be getting out copies of the Core
Commercial Plan and Palma Village Plan before the meeting for
commission to review.
Action:
None.
X. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE UPDATE
None.
XI . COMMENTS
None.
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XII . ADJOURNMENT
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Moved by Commissioner Fernandez, seconded by Commissioner
Campbell, adjourning the meeting to May 21, 1996 by minute
motion. Carried 4-0. The m��,eting w�s adj�urned at 9 : 13 p.m.
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