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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING
TUESDAY - SEPTEMBER 17, 1996
7:00 P.M. - CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE
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I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Beaty called the meeting to order at 7 : 00 p.m.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Fernandez led in the pledge of allegiance .
III . ROLL CALL
Members Present: Paul Beaty, Chairperson
Sonia Campbell (arrived after minutes
approval)
Jim Ferguson
George Fernandez
Sabby Jonathan
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Phil Drell Steve Smith
Sandy Jacobson Tonya Monroe
Martin Alvarez
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Consideration of the September 3 , 1996 meeting minutes .
Action•
Moved by Commissioner Fernandez, seconded by Commissioner
Ferguson, approving the September 3, 1996 minutes. Carried 3-
0-1 (Commissioner Jonathan abstained, Commissioner Campbell
was absent) .
V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION:
Mr. Drell summarized the pertinent items from the September
12 , 1996 City Council meeting.
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VI. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None .
VII. CONSENT CALENDAR
None .
VIII. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Case No. CUP 96-24 - SALVADOR VELAZQUEZ AND DANTE NUNEZ,
Applicants
Request for approval of a conditional use permit to
establish a 1, 000 square foot restaurant with 20
seats located at 74-991 Velie Way, Suite #4 .
Mr. Alvarez explained that the applicant was requesting a
conditional use permit to allow the operation of a 1, 000
square foot restaurant located at the southwest corner of Cook
Street and Velie Way. The proposed location was one of four
suites in a 10, 000 square foot building zoned S . I . (service
industrial) . The restaurant would seat 20 people and would
provide take-out service Monday through Saturday from 7 : 00
a.m. to 8 : 00 p.m. He noted that Exhibit A in the staff report
showed that the site shares 20 onsite parking spaces and has
additional unmarked space which is used as parking and storage
in the rear portion of the lots . There were also ten off-
street parking spaces directly in front of the site on Velie
Way which could serve as overflow parking. The parking
requirement for this type of use specified that the restaurant
shall have a minimum of ten spaces per each 1, 000 square feet
of use . In order for this use to meet the standards on this
site, the building would require eight additional parking
spaces . To meet the requirements, staff looked at the parking
situation on Velie and Cook and conducted a survey of the
parking during three weekdays (Tuesday, Wednesday and
Thursday) during the expected busy hours between 11 : 00 a.m.
and 2 : 00 p.m. The table included in the staff report
indicated that there is under-utilization of parking on the
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site and there would be adequate parking to accommodate the
restaurant and the other two uses . Mr. Alvarez also stated
that the applicant also received approval to use the front
portion of the site, in particular the eight parking spaces on
the right-hand side of the lot, specifically for his
restaurant . The restaurant would have the use of the entire
parking on the site after 4 : 00 p.m. Staff recommended
approval, subject to conditions .
Commissioner Jonathan said that in the remainder of the 9, 000
square feet of the building area, one of the suites was
occupied by a CPA firm. He asked if Mr. Alvarez knew the
approximate size of that office. Mr. Alvarez replied no, but
said that he thought it was another 1, 000 square foot suite .
Commissioner Jonathan said that if this was a normal type of
office use, the parking requirement for the building would be
four spaces per 1, 000 square feet (for the CPA use) 8 , 000
square feet at two per 1, 000 square feet (which would equal 16
for the industrial use) in addition to the other 1, 000 square
foot restaurant with the requirement of 10 spaces . The total
normal parking requirement if this was a new structure would
be 30 parking spaces and they were looking at only 20 spaces .
Mr. Alvarez said that correct and that was why the survey was
conducted, to make sure there was adequate parking during the
busy hours between 11 : 00 a.m. and 2 : 00 p.m. He drove out
there on three weekdays and there was no one in the front
eight spaces . Some of the other parking spaces in the rear
were utilized, so staff felt parking would be sufficient .
Normally this would require more parking. Commissioner
Jonathan said that he understood that there were circumstances
that warrant giving an exception. He noted that the survey
was done in mid-September and we were not quite into the
season and asked if the seasonal months would have more of an
adverse impact . Mr. Alvarez referred the question to Mr.
Drell . Mr. Drell noted that these were warehouse uses and
typically industrial users were year-round. He said that he
hadn' t noticed any big fluctuations in people in the area
during the season. Commissioner Campbell said that being in
retail, she didn' t feel the restaurant use would make any
difference at all as far as the parking was concerned.
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Chairperson Beaty opened the public hearing and the applicant
to address the commission. Mr. Nunez spoke from the audience
and said he was present to answer any questions .
Chairperson Beaty asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposal . There was no one and the public
hearing was closed. Chairperson Beaty asked for commission
comments or action.
Commissioner Jonathan stated that he was concerned about the
shortage of parking spaces, but he found staff' s presentation
persuasive and there were circumstances that justify an
exception and this seemed to be one of them. He stated that
he would move for approval . Chairperson Beaty concurred and
felt that more variety was needed in that area and hoped they
were successful .
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Commissioner
Fernandez, approving the findings as presented by staff .
Carried 5-0 . Nod
Moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Commissioner
Fernandez, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1763 ,
approving CUP 96-24 , subject to conditions . Carried 5-0 .
B. Case No. ZOA 96-3 - CITY OF PALM DESERT, Applicant
Request for approval of an amendment to the El
Paseo Pedestrian Commercial Overlay Zone.
Mr. Smith stated that what was before the commission was a
proposed amendment which would alter an ordinance that became
effective in 1987 . Along El Paseo between Portola and Highway
74 there is a restriction limiting street-front first floor
uses to pedestrian-oriented retail and personal service
businesses . The original intent in 1987 from the Core Area
Commercial Plan was to limit all new uses to that criteria in
that the goal was to create a continuous succession of
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pedestrian-oriented store fronts . During the processing of
the 1987 ordinance there was input from businesses and the
ordinance ended up being applicable to commercial frontage
constructed after July 1, 1987. The proposal at this point is
to eliminate the verbiage applying it to new construction
after July 1, 1987 and making it applicable to all new tenants
in all first-floor street front spaces regardless of when the
building was constructed. This has come to the city at the
request of the El Paseo Business Association because that
group feels that future vacant spaces along El Paseo should be
filled with retail pedestrian-oriented businesses . A second
part of the amendment would change the words "new uses" to
"new tenants" . Staff felt that would help clarify things. He
said this was a Class 5 categorical exemption for purposes of
CEQA and the recommendation is that Planning Commission
recommend approval of ZOA 96-3 to City Council .
Commissioner Ferguson stated that this was prospective in its
application. Even though the buildings were constructed after
1987 it would only apply to tenants coming in after the
OEM effective date of the ordinance, whenever that is . Existing
tenants wouldn' t be disturbed, but new tenants would be
subject to this overlay. Mr. Smith concurred. Mr. Drell also
indicated that this ordinance didn' t prohibit non-listed uses,
it just made them subject to a conditional use permit process .
He felt this created a significant hurdle and an incentive for
landlords to try and find pedestrian-friendly uses and would
give the city the ability to deny them if they were
detrimental to the street .
Chairperson Beaty opened the public testimony and asked if
anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposal .
MR. DAVID FLETCHER, 74-095 Covered Wagon Trail in Palm
Desert, stated that he manages a number of buildings on
El Paseo and he was on the board of the merchants
association for the street . He said that all of the
buildings that he manages were either remodeled or built
after 1987 and they have adhered to this policy. They
would have done that regardless of the city ordinance .
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They found that certain uses were incompatible and
prevented the filling of vacant spaces as they occur.
Retail tenants were very sensitive to their neighbors and
as the street has matured, there were uses on the street
that block walking traffic and as those become vacant,
he recommended that they try and get more pedestrian-
friendly uses in those spaces . It was not a function of
when the building was built--those tenants that were
there should be there, but if the spaces become available
as a city they should try and make E1 Paseo more
pedestrian friendly and try and do something in that
direction. He recommended approval .
Chairperson Beaty closed the public hearing and asked for
commission comments or action.
Commissioner Ferguson informed commission that this issue was
before the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance Review Committee
which overwhelmingly gave its endorsement . They looked at the
purpose and the history of the original ordinance and its
evolution since that time. He said he personally would like
greater uniformity to the pedestrian flow on E1 Paseo. He
enjoyed walking down there and understood where the gaps were
and felt that overall this would be good for El Paseo and he
supported it wholeheartedly.
Action•
Moved by Commissioner Ferguson seconded by Commissioner
Campbell, approving the findings as presented by staff .
Carried 5-0 .
Moved by Commissioner Ferguson, seconded by Commissioner
Campbell, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1764 ,
recommending to the City Council approval of ZOA 96-3 , an
amendment to Chapter 25 .29, the El Paseo Pedestrian Commercial
Overlay Zone . Carried 5-0 .
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C. Case No. ZOA 96-2 - CITY OF PALM DESERT, Applicant
Request for approval of an amendment to regulate
commercial communication towers and commercial
communication antennas .
Mr. Smith explained that the proposed ordinance was to allow
regulation of commercial communication towers and commercial
communication antennas . He said that applications were
received by Pac Bell Mobile Services to install antennas
around town at three different locations . The matter went
through Architectural Review Commission and eventually to the
City Council . When it got to City Council, Council chose to
enact a moratorium, which was done through an urgency
ordinance on July 11, 1996 and then that urgency ordinance was
extended at the Council' s August 22 meeting. The moratorium
would continue in effect until July, 1997, or until a new
ordinance is in effect . He explained that what the commission
had in the ordinance before them was a series of regulations
that would apply to the communication towers and antennas .
Effectively it defines commercial communication towers and
commercial communication antennas . They are prohibited in
residential zones except under an exceptions procedure which
is outlined. It would permit the facilities in the C-1,
Planned Commercial, Service Industrial, Public, Open Space,
and in the Planned Industrial zoned districts . It would
require all commercial communication antennas to obtain
approval from Architectural Review Commission and would
require new freestanding commercial communication towers and
antennas to obtain approval of a conditional use permit
obtained through the Planning Commission. He said that Pac
Bell has filed revised applications that would be before the
Planning Commission at the next meeting (October 1) . The
ordinance would also establish minimum separation requirements
from residential zones and minimum separation requirements
between individual towers to the point where Item I comes into
play in that the separation requirements in the zones where
they are permitted is such that it encouraged the shared use
or co-location of antennas on a single mast . Lastly, it would
establish an exceptions process where if, subject to certain
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findings, the Planning Commission could approve them in a
residential situation and what they were thinking of in that
instance was if a company could come to some arrangement with,
as an example, Ironwood Country Club or Bighorn and come up
with some sort of design concept acceptable to them the city
probably wouldn' t have too much opposition to it if they made
peace with those bodies . In order to cover the south end of
the city it might be something they want to hold open. They
don' t expect to see it happen, but they have tried to provide
for it . For purposes of CEQA ZOA 96-2 is a Class 5
categorical exemption. Staff recommended that Planning
Commission recommend approval of the ordinance to the City
Council . He noted that this matter was also reviewed through
the Zoning Ordinance Review Committee at its last meeting.
Staff received some ideas from them, they tried to incorporate
those suggestions into this document and re-circulated this
draft ordinance to that group approximately ten days ago
indicating that staff would like some comments back if anyone
had any. Mr. Smith had not heard from anyone so staff assumed
the changes were satisfactory.
Commissioner Jonathan said that as he understood the amendment
if a new mast is going to go up the first step is the
Architectural Review Commission and the second step is the
Planning Commission for the conditional use permit . That
would be a public hearing process with notification. Mr.
Smith concurred that it would be a full conditional use permit
process .
Commissioner Ferguson stated that at the Zoning Ordinance
Review Committee meeting the issue was raised that by
requiring setbacks from residential zones they were actually
maximizing the visual impact to that zone in that an 85 foot
tower immediately adjacent to a residential zone would be seen
by far fewer residents then a tower set back "x" number of
feet . He asked if the 300 foot notification radius for a
public hearing was sufficient when talking about an 85 foot
tower. He asked if it should be broadened. Mr. Smith said
that it was something to consider. Mr. Drell indicated that
it could be . Commissioner Ferguson felt that people within
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300 feet would be less impacted then those outside of 300
feet . Mr. Drell suggested a distance of 500 feet .
Commissioner Jonathan concurred. Mr. Drell said that they
were talking about some very massive mailings when getting
higher. Commissioner Jonathan said that was better then
having people before the Commission after the fact . Mr. Drell
said that 500 feet gave a 1, 000 foot diameter circle . Mr.
Smith asked if that was internally inconsistent with the rest
of the ordinance . Mr. Drell replied no, not if they could
make the finding that this unique use impacts that larger area
as opposed to a restaurant or other use, where once you are
out of sight and out of traffic range it didn' t impact at all .
This would be within the sight of far more people .
Commissioner Jonathan felt they should include it in the
recommendation. Mr. Drell said that the commission could
direct staff to do some site diagrams for council of an area
and the profile seen from certain distances . Commissioner
Jonathan felt it came down to whether they wanted to deal with
those people through the due process or whether they wanted to
hear from them when the towers/antennas were being installed.
Commissioner Ferguson noted that 500 feet is a greater than
five to one ratio, tower height to notification perimeter; 300
feet is less than four to one . It seemed to him that the
people that fall within that additional 200 feet would be the
ones that would be much more visually impacted then the 300
feet . Like Commissioner Jonathan, he would like them to be
notified up front and give them an opportunity to speak about
it . He didn't feel that 300 feet was an adequate notice area.
Mr. Smith said there was a proposal for the roof at the Town
Center. The parcel that it is going on extends all the way
out to the perimeter of the mall property, which is probably
800-900 feet from the actual antenna. If they go 300 feet
beyond that, they were already noticing residents at 1, 000 or
1, 100 feet . The same thing would happen for the Gold' s Gym
site in that they would move the antenna so that it is 200
feet from the property line and then they would notice into
the residential area, which happens to be one residential
ownership at this time because it has not been subdivided, but
from the actual location of the tower, they were probably
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talking about 500 feet. Mr. Drell felt that what they should
do would be to have a unique noticing provision that the
noticing distance should be based on the location of the
tower, not on the parcel . Whatever they chose, it should be
the distance from the actual base of the tower. Commissioner
Jonathan suggested that the noticing could be the larger of
300 feet from the parcel or 500 feet from the tower. If they
just said 500 feet from the tower and it was a 900 foot
parcel, then no one was being noticed. Then they might be in
violation of the normal ordinance . Mr. Drell concurred that
they would have to do the 300 feet at a minimum from the
parcel, or 500 feet from the tower. He noted that under this
ordinance the antenna on top of the Town Center would not
require a conditional use permit . Mr. Smith agreed, noting
that it was only 16 feet above the roof, so it was not subject
to the ordinance and would only be going before the
Architectural Commission. Commissioner Ferguson stated that
he felt that when getting 85 feet into the air, which is
higher then anything else allowed, the visual impact in the
valley was such that they should broaden the notice area and
he would recommend limiting it just to communication towers . �■ii
Chairperson Beaty opened the public hearing and asked if
anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposal .
MR. DARRELL DAUGHERTY, representing Pacific Bell Mobile
Services, thanked Mr. Drell and Mr. Smith for working
with them on this. He felt it has been a good experience
for them and they would before the Planning Commission
at the next meeting. Co-location was something when they
look at sites that people have to want to do. The
industry generally didn' t want to do it for a lot of
reasons . First of all they didn' t want to be bothered
with allowing other people on their towers, generally,
and there wasn' t incentive for them to do that . He liked
parts of this ordinance that didn' t give people a choice
not to. That would be his message to the commission.
If they really wanted to work for co-location, they
should use some of these things as a tool . When they
come before the Planning Commission for their facilities,
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he wanted to let them know that there was a commitment
for co-location and that Pac Bell would stand behind that
and whatever the commission wanted to do with their site-
they would work with them. He said that he was present
and available to answer any questions regarding
technology.
Chairperson Beaty asked how many of these he anticipated were
required to cover Palm Desert . Mr. Daugherty replied that
they have three and about 14 throughout the whole valley.
They have 3-4 in Palm Springs, 1 in Cathedral City, 2 in
Rancho Mirage, 1 in Desert Hot Springs, and 1 in Indian Wells .
He said that when looking at the size of the city it was
proportional and 14 would cover the whole desert region.
Chairperson Beaty asked if this was new technology in
competition with cell phones . Mr. Daugherty concurred. He
said that about a year and a half ago the FCC auctioned off
licenses and Pac Bell received a license for new technology
called PCS (Personal Communication Services) to compete with
the existing cellular providers and they would do that on an
all digital platform whereas the existing cellular service is
analog now. He noted that the cellular companies were
currently switching their services over to digital platforms .
That process of migrating people off the analog service to the
digital was estimated to take three to five years .
Chairperson Beaty closed the public hearing and asked for
commission comments and action.
Commissioner Ferguson said that they reviewed this at the
Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance Review Committee . He thanked
Mr. Daugherty and said that he has dealt with many lobbyists
in his time and felt that Mr. Daugherty was eminently
reasonable and he felt that this was a perfect accommodation
between emerging technology and a city' s desire to regulate
its own land use. As the ordinance was drafted, they went
through a number of changes in such a way that it would not
limit emergence of new technology artificially because none of
them on the Review Committee were analog friendly and he felt
it was a good compromise . It gave the city the ability to
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evaluate each project . Ironwood came up as mentioned by Mr.
Smith. He said that he lives up there. Bighorn is back in a
cove which is traditionally difficult to service by cell phone
regions and if his country club was able to reach a compromise
where they were able to put a tower way back at the south
course where it would only be seen by a very few Ironwood
homeowners and no one objected, they should be allowed to do
SO. That flexibility was built into the ordinance, but the
ultimate control was retained by the Planning Commission and
Council . He liked the way the ordinance was drafted and they
way the committee reviewed it and endorsed the proposed
ordinance wholeheartedly with the greater notice provision for
residents .
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Ferguson, seconded by Commissioner
Campbell, approving the findings as presented by staff .
Carried 5-0 .
Moved by Commissioner Ferguson, seconded by Commissioner
Campbell, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1765, .490
recommending to City Council approval of ZOA 96-2, subject to
amendment of the legal notice radius distance . Carried 5-0 .
IX. MISCELLANEOUS
None .
X. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE UPDATE
None .
XI. COMMENTS
1 . Mr. Drell said that he was contacted by the engineer for
Katrina Heinrich and Lionel Steinberg, who were owners
of a lot of property along the freeway. They were
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putting together a master plan for all of their
properties and they would like to consult with the
Planning Commission at the next meeting. He said that
it could be as a study session item or a Miscellaneous
item on the agenda. Commissioner Jonathan asked if it
was a long agenda. Mr. Drell said that they would have
the three proposed towers on the agenda. Commissioner
Jonathan said that if the agenda was pretty light, he
would prefer the item under Miscellaneous . Commissioner
Ferguson asked how long the presentation would be; Mr.
Drell replied that it would be approximately 20 minutes .
They had some ideas of land uses which might relate to
the issue of freeway commercial zones, which the Zoning
Ordinance Review Committee would be working on in
October. They have some mixed use ideas . Commissioner
Ferguson asked if they would have items in their agenda
packets . Mr. Drell said that he could get some exhibits
from them. Commissioner Ferguson requested at least an
overview. Mr. Drell indicated that they have some land
use concepts for them to look at . Commissioner Campbell
asked if they could leave it up to the secretary to
decide on whether it would be a study session item at
6 : 00 p.m. or a Miscellaneous item depending on the agenda
length. Mr. Drell said that as far as staff knew, there
were only those three items . Mr. Drell noted that staff
didn' t know what the reaction would be to the cell sites,
although given the location of these three, they were
probably the three that staff would have chosen. He
hoped they wouldn' t be massively controversial .
Commissioner Ferguson stated that as he understood it,
under federal law they couldn' t be prohibited they could
only regulate where they are located. Mr. Drell felt
that under Miscellaneous on the agenda would be fine .
2 . Mr. Drell noted that Commissioner Ferguson asked him
about the S. I . zone and the use of the zone as a kind of
"grab bag" of miscellaneous uses and specifically
allowing restaurants . He said that staff did a search
to find out how many restaurants had been approved and
there were only two other existing restaurants . They
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were primarily to serve the area. He said that they
have, through the determination of uses not listed, put
a lot of things like churches in that area in that the
demand for the property and the buildings have fluctuated
very radically through the years, therefore, a lot of
property owners have tried to build in flexibility to
their projects by building to the office standard
development which allows them the flexibility of having
office or industrial . As of two years ago he ran a
business license check on the whole area and about 90%
of the business were still fairly strictly industrial in
nature. To a certain degree having diversity wasn' t bad
although it was difficult for staff to monitor when new
uses come that are not obviously industrial and then
staff has to do some research into what the building is
and what it was approved for and how much parking it has
and the other tenants there. He felt that they have it
somewhat under control and when there is a better
computer system, they would be able to track it better.
3 . Commissioner Fernandez noted that his term as Planning J
Commissioner is up and asked what the next step was; Mr.
Drell asked if he had been contacted by the City Clerk' s
office . Commissioner Fernandez replied no. Mr. Drell
said that all of the appointments have been extended to
December. They have gone into a system where perspective
applicants are being invited to come to commission
meetings to decide whether they really want to be in it .
The City Clerk should be contacting him and inquiring if
he is interested in re-appointment . That determines
whether they would throw his hat back into the ring and
whether or not they would be considering other ones . Mr.
Drell asked if Mr. Fernandez was interested in
continuing. Commissioner Fernandez said yes .
Commissioner Jonathan felt that was a good procedure .
4 . Mr. Smith noted that Commissioner Ferguson would be
absent from the September 18, 1996 Zoning Ordinance
Review Committee meeting and asked if any other
commissioner would like to attend. Mr. Smith said that
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the meeting would be at 3 : 00 p.m. Mr. Drell said they
would be covering building coverage in residential zones,
among other items . Commissioner Fernandez volunteered.
XII. ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner
Fernandez, adjourning the meeting to October 1, 1996 by minute
motion. Carried 5-0 . The meeting was adjourned at 7 :43 p.m.
PHILIP DRE , Secretary
ATTEST:
PAUL R. BEATY, Chair erson
Palm Desert Planning Commission
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