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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY - OCTOBER 15, 1996
7 :00 P.M. - CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE
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I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Beaty called the meeting to order at 7 : 00 p.m.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Jonathan led in the pledge of allegiance.
III. ROLL CALL
Members Present : Paul Beaty, Chairperson
Sonia Campbell
Jim Ferguson
George Fernandez
Sabby Jonathan
Members Absent : None
Staff Present : Phil Drell Martin Alvarez
Sandy Jacobson Mark Greenwood
Steve Smith Tonya Monroe
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Consideration of the October 1, 1996 meeting minutes .
Action•
Moved by Commissioner Ferguson, seconded by Commissioner
Campbell, approving the October 1, 1996 minutes . Carried 5-0.
V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION:
Mr. Drell summarized pertinent October 10, 1996 city council
actions.
VI. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None.
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VII. CONSENT CALENDAR
None.
VIII. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Case Nos. TT 28295 and C/Z 96-5 - DESERT SOUTHWEST
DEVELOPERS, INC. , Applicants
Request for approval of a Negative Declaration of
Environmental Impact, change of zone (O.S . , N. to
P.R. (4) ) and a tentative tract map to subdivide 20
acres into 69 single family lots for property located
on the northeast corner of Fred Waring Drive and Deep
Canyon Road.
Mr. Alvarez stated that the 20 acre site which fronts on both
Fred Waring and Deep Canyon Road was the city' s last date grove
with an Open Space designation. Since the construction of the
new Civic Center Park, the City set aside a new date grove to i
replace it . The zone change from Open Space to Planned
Residential four units per acre would be consistent with the
City' s General Plan designation of Medium Density Residential
and the existing land uses . The tentative tract map would
create 69 single family lots on 20 acres . He indicated that the
lots would average 8, 500 square feet with the smallest at 8, 000
square feet as required by code and the largest at approximately
10, 000 square feet . He noted that the main ingress/egress
points would be from Deep Canyon Road and a secondary access
point on the north perimeter from Moss Rose Road. The project
would have a perimeter wall which would be appropriately
landscaped as approved by the Architectural Review Commission.
The main ingress/egress points from Deep Canyon would be
landscaped with a lawn and would contain two small date groves .
He indicated that the setbacks as outlined in the staff report
met all the requirements of the Planned Residential District .
Mr. Alvarez noted that in the draft resolution condition no. 14
indicated that lot numbers 7-10, 15-22, 27-34 and 37-44 were all
suitable for two story development . As indicated in the staff
report, he noted that the proposed map and improvements were
consistent with the City' s subdivision regulations and the
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California State Map Act . For purposes of CEQA, the project
would not have an adverse impact on the environment and a
Negative Declaration of Environmental Impact was prepared.
Staff recommended approval, subject to conditions .
Commissioner Jonathan noted that there were two ingress/egress
points on Deep Canyon. He expressed concern that traffic for
the school drop-off currently backs up on Deep Canyon and asked
what consideration was given to making the ingress/egress point
in the center as the main street and having the other access
points made into cul-de-sacs . Mr. Alvarez referred the question
to the applicant. Commissioner Jonathan asked if staff knew of
any detrimental effect that would occur from moving the access
points . Mr. Alvarez referred the question to Public Works'
staff . Commissioner Ferguson asked if Mr. Greenwood had any
comments. Commissioner Jonathan also noted that there was also
a church across the street and they also have a school, so there
was traffic going both directions morning and afternoon. He
asked if anything would be lost by making the change he
suggested. Mr. Greenwood replied that moving the access point
to the north wouldn' t harm access from staff' s perspective and
i..r it could possibly make things better. Staff was hoping that the
signalization improvements that were part of this project would
help alleviate some of the congestion that occurs during school
hours . They felt it would be adequate as proposed, but there
were other alternatives . Commissioner Jonathan stated that he
did not want to hold up approval, but asked staff to study that
and make a determination if there was an improvement by going
northward, if the applicant didn' t have a problem with it, then
maybe they could go in that direction. Commissioner Ferguson
noted that Deep Canyon would be widened and asked if there would
be a left-hand turn lane or if it would go from two lanes to
four lanes. He asked what was being done. Mr. Greenwood stated
that staff had been exploring a few alternatives for the
striping on Deep Canyon. The standard section would be four
lane striping but he didn' t feel that the volumes would
necessarily call for that, especially since farther north of
there it was two lanes and would probably remain that way for
quite a while. Staff was exploring a single through lane in
each direction with a single left-turn lane widening into a dual
left-turn lane at Fred Waring and providing golf cart and bike
lanes on Deep Canyon.
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Commissioner Jonathan said that adding thaeffecond turn lane from
Deep Canyon heading south onto Fred Waring was a major
improvement to easing the traffic congestion. He suggested that
the city also consider on Fred Waring heading east, where there
were two turn lanes going onto Phyllis Jackson into the high
school, they started out as a single turn lane because there was
a previous turn lane into the development before the high school
and it was a double yellow line, so there was a distance before
the turn lane could be used. He said that if the solid yellow
line could be changed to a broken yellow line the two lines
could stack up more on Fred Waring. He felt that would further
ease the traffic flow. Mr. Greenwood replied that it was
definitely something they could explore, but a concern was that
access to the development on the south side of Fred Waring might
have a conflict, but since it was an emergency access, staff
would look into it .
Chairperson Beaty opened the public hearing and asked the
applicant to address the commission.
MR. MIKE SMITH, Warner Engineering at 35-325 Date Palm
Drive in Cathedral City, stated that they were the
engineers on the project . Regarding the comments made
about moving the entry road over, they had talked with the
Fire Marshal and they had just the amount of length they
would allow; if they moved it over they would have too long
of a cul-de-sac and they didn' t like that . That was the
reason that the entry was located where it was . They met
with Joe Gaugush and showed him several different
configurations and that was how they ended up with this
one.
Commissioner Jonathan asked for clarification regarding the Fire
Marshal' s comments .
Mr. Smith explained that the Fire Marshal has a length of
cul-de-sac that he won' t allow and right now it was
considered circulation and if it was changed it would not
provide adequate circulation. It was not a very big piece
of property and after six revisions, this was what they
ended up with.
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Mr. Drell felt that the solution for residents of this project
was that if in fact there was congestion there they could go out
Moss Rose Road.
Mr. Smith said that when the next property builds out and
the access went through to Phyllis Jackson, that would
create a lot less traffic.
Chairperson Beaty asked for clarification that the access would
go through to Phyllis Jackson. Mr. Drell explained that the
concern was that when the previous map was first proposed, it
had a connection. When it was finally approved, staff didn' t
want this to be the short cut down Moss Rose to the high school .
Mr. Smith stated that the only other comment he had was
that on Public Works Condition No. 17, the requirement was
for meandering concrete sidewalks, but on Moss Rose Road
there wasn't enough room. He stated that he already talked
with Mr. Alvarez about deleting that requirement because
there wasn't enough right-of-way or parkway width. It would
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would be driveways there. Other than that, they had no
problems with anything else. He mentioned that his client
might come back with a phasing plan because it was
surrounded by public streets on three sides and for a small
parcel, to build all of that at once would overburden it
so much at the first phase that they probably wouldn' t be
able to build it. He spoke with Mr. Gaugush about that and
he seemed to be fine with phasing the project and phasing
the off-site improvements .
Commissioner Ferguson asked if Mr. Smith or his client talked
with anyone from Sacred Heart Church. He noted that they have
had some divided opinions .
Mr. Smith stated that he spoke with Mr. Phil Suza up at the
Diocese and he understood that something would happen here
and with the spacing of their driveways, it didn' t look
like there was anything they could do. They had odd
spacing and they had several driveways that go into that
big parking lot .
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Commissioner Ferguson asked if they had seen these plans and if
they talked with anyone at the church.
Mr. Smith noted that everyone within 300 feet of the
project was notified of the public hearing. He didn' t have
specific conversations with the church itself, but with the
Diocese, Phil Suza, who was basically the person in charge
of the church. He was the real estate person and he didn't
seem to have a concern either way. He understood that
sooner or later this piece of property would develop and
access wouldn' t be allowed from Fred Waring Drive, so they
would have to exit onto Deep Canyon.
Commissioner Campbell asked if the ingress/egress on Deep Canyon
would face the school or church.
Mr. Smith replied that it was very close to their driveway
and when they actually went out and did the surveying and
engineering, they would get the centerline of their
driveway during the engineering phase.
Commissioner Campbell clarified that it would be between the
school and the church. Mr. Smith concurred and said that their
entrance faced their parking lot more than it did the church.
Chairperson Beaty asked if anyone wished to address the
commission in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposal .
MR. RICHARD OSTRIO, a resident on Clover Lane, stated that
he belongs to Sacred Heart Church and he was the President
of the Perish Council and speaking to Father Timlon about
this, Father Timlon was concerned about the ingress and
egress . He asked if they would be opposite their
driveways, although the only problem would be Sundays with
people going in and out of church. He didn' t feel there
would be a school problem, but he was concerned that their
access points would be opposite their driveways .
Chairperson Beaty explained that when the applicant does the
engineering, the area would be staked which would show the
locations .
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Mr. Ostrio said that Father Timlon was concerned with that
possibility and noted that no one had spoken with him,
although they spoke with Phil Suza who sent Father Timlon
a small map. That was the only concern of Father Timlon.
Commissioner Ferguson noted that the centerline of that driveway
was only 375 feet from Fred Waring. He thought that the
church' s entrance was a little farther north.
Mr. Ostrio said that there were three entrances, but felt
it might be more of a problem for the proposed
development' s residents on Sunday mornings .
Chairperson Beaty closed the public hearing and asked for
commission comments.
Commissioner Campbell stated that she was familiar with the
developer on this project and didn' t see any problem as far as
the tenants/residents entering or exiting the complex on Sunday
mornings . With the widening of Deep Canyon Road, she didn' t
have a problem with this proposal and was in favor of approval .
Commissioner Jonathan stated that he was very pleased to see
this particular application because it showed that when the
commission holds to what they feel is appropriate, developers
find a way of making it happen, both from an economic standpoint
for the developer and for the city and its residents . He
applauded the applicant and felt this was a very appropriate use
of that property and he would move for approval .
Commissioner Ferguson agreed with Commissioner Jonathan and
noted that a previous applicant proposed lots as small as 5200
square feet and said that it would not pencil out to do a normal
subdivision here. He also liked the improvements to Deep Canyon
that would be done and he was wholeheartedly in favor of the
project. He said that he would second the motion.
Commissioner Fernandez stated that he was a member of Sacred
Heart Church and he thought this would be a great project across
from the church and he felt it would work out fine. He thought
the project looked good and he was in favor.
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Action:
Moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Commissioner
Ferguson, approving the findings as presented by staff. Carried
5-0 .
Moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Commissioner
Ferguson, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1769,
recommending to City Council approval of a Negative Declaration
of Environmental Impact, C/Z 96-5 and TT 28295, subject to
conditions . Carried 5-0 .
B. Case No. PP 96-9 - McFADDEN/McINTOSH ARCHITECTS, Applicant
Request for approval of a precise plan of design for
a 14, 990 square foot single story warehouse office
building on a 40, 813 square foot lot at the
southeast corner of Boardwalk and Saint Charles
Place .
Mr. Smith explained that the property was presently two vacant
lots at the intersection of Boardwalk and Saint Charles Place.
The intention was to consolidate property and then construct
this building on it . He said they fall under the parking
requirement of one parking space per 1, 000 square feet and still
have the 12 parking spaces left over that would be deeded
against the property at 75-100 Mediterranean. If the property
changed hands or if someone wished to change the use to the next
level of industrial property, then condition 412 would kick in
that would allow them to demolish the east wing to eliminate
approximately 4, 000 square feet of building and pick up an
additional eight parking spaces and would allow the remainder of
the building to be used for general industrial use and the
parking standards would still provide the 12 parking spaces
required for the property at 75-100 Mediterranean. He felt that
covered both eventualities . For the purposes of CEQA this was
a class 3 categorical exemption and staff recommended approval .
Commissioner Jonathan stated that in staff' s listing of the
parking requirements in the staff report, in the column that
indicates what is provided it said 27 parking spaces. He said
that if they deducted the 12 applicable to the other property,
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what was provided was 15 and what was required for exclusive
warehouse usage and the office was 15 . In essence, in its
present form they were exactly meeting the requirement . Mr.
Smith explained that in the chart under "provided" he could have
put 15 with 27 in brackets, it would be the same thing.
Commissioner Jonathan said that if there was a conversion to an
industrial use or professional office use, they would have to
comply with the conditions of approval for the other uses to be
allowed. Mr. Smith concurred.
Chairperson Beaty opened the public hearing and asked if the
applicant wished to address the commission.
MR. CHRIS McFADDEN, McFadden/McIntosh Architects, 73-929
Larrea Street in Palm Desert, stated that they designed the
building with a structure that would be easily convertible
in the event that the use changed. Mr. Anderson' s intent
was to use this facility strictly as a warehouse building
and the office space was purely for administrative
functions within that facility, so it was a subordinate
occupancy. He provided a rendering of the project and
�... explained that this would complete the development of the
parcels along Boardwalk and they added a clock tower on the
project as a point of interest. He noted that a warehouse
building was typically bland and he included some archways
to be complimentary to Mr. Anderson' s other building. The
landscaping would be heavy like the existing building with
the rocks . He asked for any questions .
Chairperson Beaty asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposal . There was no one and the public
hearing was closed.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner
Fernandez, approving the findings as presented by staff.
Carried 5-0 .
Moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner
Fernandez, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1770,
approving PP 96-9, subject to conditions. Carried 5-0 .
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C. Case No. ZOA 96-4 - CITY OF PALM DESERT, Applicant
Request for approval of an amendment to Section
25 . 72 . 130 of the Palm Desert Municipal Code relating
to the procedure for revoking conditional use
permits .
Mr. Smith explained that the City Attorney brought it to staff' s
attention that there was a flaw in Section 25 . 72 . 130 . The way
it is presently written provides for the automatic suspension or
revocation of a conditional use permit. He noted that staff has
never had to use it, but it was advisable to correct the
situation. The City Attorney' s office provided language which
provides for a hearing before revoking a conditional use permit .
He said that this was a class 5 categorical exemption for
purposes of CEQA. He noted that the language was in the exhibit
to the draft resolution.
Chairperson Beaty opened the public hearing and asked if anyone
wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposal . There
was no one and the public hearing was closed. goo
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Ferguson, seconded by Commissioner
Fernandez, approving the findings as presented by staff .
Carried 4-1 (Commissioner Campbell voted no) .
Moved by Commissioner Ferguson, seconded by Commissioner
Fernandez, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1771,
approving ZOA 96-4, subject to conditions . Carried 4-1
(Commissioner Campbell voted no) .
Commissioner Jonathan asked if Commissioner Campbell wished to
elaborate on why she was voting no. Commissioner Campbell
indicated that when a conditional use permit was granted it was
at a public hearing and the applicant was aware of the rules and
regulations for the conditional use permit . Now if anything
happens, she felt the CUP should be revoked and then they could
come back to the commission asking for another conditional use
permit and then tell the commission what they have done to
correct the problem. Commissioner Ferguson felt that if the
city could legally do that they would.
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Ms. Jacobson explained that it couldn' t just be taken away from
them because a conditional use permit grants them a vested
right . If it was just taken away, they would be depriving them
of their rights . They had to have a hearing first and then
thereafter they could come back, although under the code they
would have to wait one year. Commissioner Ferguson noted that
was procedural due process . Mr. Drell said that basically the
commission could revoke the conditional use permit, he couldn' t.
Ms. Jacobson clarified that right now it automatically suspends
the permit and then a hearing was held. This was only changing
the suspension part .
IX. MISCELLANEOUS
None.
X. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE UPDATE
None.
XI. COMMENTS
None.
XII. ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner
Fernandez, adjourning the meeting by minute motion. Carried 5-
0 . The meeting was adjourned at 7 :32 p.m.
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PHILIP DREL , Secretary
ATTEST:
PAUL R. BEATY, Chairpe on
Palm Desert Planning Commission
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