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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING
TUESDAY - JANUARY 7, 1997
7:00 P.M. - CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
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I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Ferguson called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Jonathan led in the pfedge of allegiance.
Iil. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Jim Ferguson, Chairperson
Paul Beaty
Sonia Campbell
George Fernandez
Sabby Jonathan
Members Absent: None
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Staff Present: Phil Drell
Helene Dreyer
Tonya Monroe
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Consideration of the December 17, 1996 meeting minutes.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner Beaty,
approving the December 17, 1996 minutes by minute motion. Carried 5-0.
V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION:
None.
VI. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None.
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VII. CONSENT CALENDAR
None.
VIII. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Continued Case No. PP 96-11 - GARY COVEL, GENERAL CONSTRUCTION
MANAGEMENT, Applicant
Request for approval of a p�ecise plan and Negative Declaration
of Environmental Impact for a one story 20 unit senior assisted
living complex on property located in the R-2 Senior Overlay zone
at the southeast corner of San Carlos Avenue and Catalina Way.
Mr. Drell noted that at the last meeting there were a few issues left unresolved that
had to do with the site planning and neighborhood concerns. His understanding was
that those property owners on the east side had concern over the location of the
parking lot. They thought that maybe the building should be there and the parking
lot moved. Since one of their issues was obstruction of view, they realized that �
having a 12 or 13-foot high structure near their property would create a greater
impediment to their view than a parking lot. In terms of traffic, there was a memo
from the Traffic Engineer that the project would generate fewer trips than the
permitted single family density of six units, so they would have less traffic than
single family houses. Over time these projects would develop fewer and fewer trips
as the residents age. The other issue had to do with the development agreement.
There was a revised development agreement before commission. It had been revised
more in form than substance. Under the Senior Housing Overlay, this project is
required to provide four units within the project at affordable rents. They have dealt
with these projects before and it was difficult to determine an affordable rent for an
assisted living unit in that rent was only a small portion of the cost of these facilities.
In the past they had come up with two alternatives. One which they did at the Villas
at Palm Desert around the corner from this project. They had a 15 unit requirement
and they agreed to pay off at a rate of 510,000 a unit to go into the City's affordable
housing fund for ten units and then they agreed to allow the occupancy of five units.
Supplemental Security Income has a program by which their recipients would occupy
one of these units and the owner accepts the SSI payment minus $50.00. In that
these would be for very, very low income SSI recipients, the City would cut the
requirement in half to two. The development agreement provided the applicant a
choice of either providing two SSI units at the described rate, or to pay the City
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510,000, which was approximately 25% of the cost of building an apartment which
the City would then use to subsidize four units and the applicant would pay a total
of 540,000. Mr. Drell indicated that the applicant intends to pay the $40,000, but
the agreement allowed the applicant to advise the City in writing before construction
on which option he would prefer. Mr. Drell stated that the applicant could address
the commission to describe his efforts to satisfy the concerns of the neighbors.
Chairperson Ferguson opened the public hearing and asked the applicant to address
the commission.
MR. GARY COVEL, General Construction Management, stated that at the last
meeting there were some issues that were not resolved. He said that Mr.
Poe's concern was that there would be a fence on the south side of the
property line and the drawing included a six-foot masonry fence. At the
conclusion of the last meeting he felt that Mr. Poe's concern was resolved.
He also spoke Mrs. Southerland a couple of weeks ago and her primary
concern was the view. He explained that if they moved that parking lot to a
different location, they would have to put a building where the parking lot was
which would be more obstructive to her view. Things would only get more
'�"' cluttered instead of less. She consented that they should leave it like it is. He
stated that he called the Hightowers on a couple of occasions and spoke with
Mrs. Hightower, although this was his first occasion to see both of them since
the last meeting. He asked if the commission had any questions.
Commissioner Jonathan noted that the applicant intends to build the minimum
required parking spaces and there was insurance in the form of a bond that should
additional parking spaces be required, they would be built. Mr. Covel replied that
was correct. Commissioner Jonathan asked how that part of the parking lot would
be used while it was not being used as parking spaces. Mr. Covel indicated that it
would be landscaping. Commissioner Jonathan asked if it would be a significant
problem to build out the additional four or five parking spaces. Mr. Covel stated that
it shouldn't be a problem at all in the event that they are ever needed. Commissioner
Jonathan stated that he has some concerns that he would bring up under discussion.
He asked if in the event that the commission should feel it was appropriate to build
out the whole lot from the very start, if it would cause any kind of a structural or
configuration problem for the applicant. Mr. Covel replied no, none whatsoever..
Mr. Covel said that there was one other issue that the adjacent property
owners raised at the last meeting that had to do with trash disposal and what
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times the trucks might come and go. He contacted Desert Disposal and they
said it would be between 7:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m.
Chairperson Ferguson asked if anyone wished to address the commission in FAVOR
or OPPOSITION. There was no one and the public hearing was closed. Chairperson
Ferguson asked for commission comments or action.
Commissioner Jonathan stated that he was surprised and pleased to see that
although there we�e residents present, the objections had been resolved, which was
the purpose in continuing the matter. He felt it was gratifying to see that the process
worked. He said that he had no problem with the application. He felt it was a good
project although he had a concern with the parking adequacy. The reason was
because they were talking about building out 15 parking spaces initially, but there
were 20 units and some of the residents might not drive, but some of them might
have two cars. With 20 units built out with only 15 parking spaces, which didn't
account for the staff which was indicated to be three to service the dining room and
administrative office, he felt the number might exceed three and that didn't address
visitor parking. He felt that 15 parking spaces was inadequate and since it would be
easy to go ahead and put in the additional four of five spaces, he would not have a ?
problem approving this project, but subject to the complete build out of the whole .r1
parking lot of 20 spaces.
Commissioner Beaty asked how the 15 parking spaces were arrived at; Mr. Drell
stated that the ordinance gave the applicant the ability to ask for that reduction. He
noted that the staff recommendation supporting the reduction was from staff
observation at two other similar projects in the city. Those they did build out at one
space per unit were typically less than half full. Whether there was a more efficient
ratio of employees to residents in a larger project, he wasn't sure. Over time there
was no question that there would be fewer and fewer needed. Commissioner
Jonathan said that if it was a major construction impediment he might reconsider, but
since it was just grass in that corner of the parking lot, he felt it would be easy and
cost would be immaterial to just extend out the pavement and stripe it. He felt it
would be far thinking and wouldn't hurt the applicant. Commissioner Beaty noted
that he lives across the street from The Carlotta and there was a large parking lot
there and he would prefer to see grass. He would rather go with the application as
recommended since the applicant could add the parking later if it was needed.
Commissioner Campbell stated that she was also in favor of the project and she
concurred with Commissioner Beaty. She would rather see grass and if there were
visitors, there was ample parking along the street. Mr. Drell noted that since they '
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would be on the corner they would have a lot of street frontage. He thought that the
neighbors would probably prefer them to park on the street. A resident spoke up
from the audience and stated that she would prefer to see visitors parking in the lot
because of the number of cars going to the Senior Center that used the street.
Commissioner Fernandez stated that he was in favor of the project and agreed with
Commissioners Campbell and Beaty as far as seeing more landscaping. He also lived
across from The Carlotta and saw a lot of empty parking spaces and the additional
landscaping would enhance the neighborhood. He was in favor of the project and
more greenery.
Chairperson Ferguson added that the majority of the time he agreed with
Commissioner Jonathan on parking situations, but he would defer to staff's actual
observations of the two other senior uses rather than on speculation and stated that
if a private business needed more parking to make its business profitable, they would
put in more parking. He would rather look at grass until asphalt was necessary. He
commended the applicant for meeting with the neighbors and trying to accommodate
their concerns. He understood that they looked at a number of configurations and
what they have here was the best that could be done. The applicant's effectiveness
'""' was demonstrated by the lack of opposing testimony. He asked for a motion. Mr.
Drell asked if commission wanted to add a restriction on the trash pickup time to the
conditions of approval. Commission didn't feel compelled to add it as a condition,
noting that the City has a franchise agreement with the disposal company.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Beaty, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez, approving the
findings as presented by staff. Carried 4-1 (Commissioner Jonathan voted no).
Moved by Commissioner Beaty, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez, adopting
Planning Commission Resolution No. 1778, approving PP 96-11 . Carried 4-1
(Commissioner Jonathan voted no).
Moved by Commissioner Beaty, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez, approving the
findings as presented by staff. Carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner Beaty, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez, adopting
Planning Commission Resolution No. 1779, recommending approval of DA 97-1 to
City Council. Carried 5-0.
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IX. MISCELLANEOUS
None.
X. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE UPDATE
None.
XI. COMMENTS �
1 . Chairperson Ferguson asked members of the commission if there was interest
in attending the Planning Commissioner's Conference in Riverside.
Commissioner Campbell stated that she would be interested in attending.
Commissioner Beaty asked Mr. Drell for his opinion of this conference.
Commissioner Jonathan asked when the annual Planning Commissioners
Conference was scheduled for this year and where. Chairperson Ferguson
stated that it was from March 12-14 in Monterey. Commissioner Jonathan i
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stated that he did attend one year and for those commissioners that haven't ,,,�
been at any conference, it was wonderful. It was very educational, addressed
how to be more effective, described their role, and addressed how to
understand plans. Commissioner Beaty noted that he also attended one year
when it was in San Diego. Mr. Drell stated that the agenda for the conference
in Riverside looked interesting, although sometimes it depended on who the
speakers were. Chairperson Ferguson noted that he was a speaker at an APA
conference that was in Palm Springs at the Wyndham Hotel and he agreed that
if there is a good topic and a good panel it can be very helpful. Mr. Drell
stated that if they at least got one good thing out a conference, it was worth
attending. Chairperson Ferguson stated that he would also like to attend the
meeting in Riverside. He was also interested in the Planners Institute in
Monterey. Commissioner Campbell concurred.
2. Chairperson Ferguson noted that at the last meeting Commissioners Beaty and
Campbell were appointed to the Desert Willow Committee. After speaking
with Commissioners Beaty and Campbell after the last meeting, they agreed
that two planning commissioners wou�d attend, but they would rotate among
the three of them, much the way the City Council does.
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3. Mr. Drell noted that there was a tenant for the Ben Franklin store. It would be
a large liquor outlet. Staff also had an inquiry about a live theater group trying
to take over the old First Interstate Bank building. He also indicated that they
were close to getting a tenant for the old Lucky's building. It would either be
a single tenant or they would create a central-covered arcade, breaking it up
into small spaces for specialty shops. Staff was directing them to go with a
large tenant. Commissioner Beaty asked if there were specific conditions on
the type of tenant that could occupy the old Lucky's building. Mr. Drell replied
yes and explained that there was a 5250,000 letter of credit. If they go dark
• for more than six months without finding an acceptable tenant, and it had to
be an EI Paseo compatible user, then the City would take the 5250,000 and
use it to find a tenant. Chairperson Ferguson asked if there was any update
on tenants for Saks Fifth Avenue. Mr. Drell stated that there were several
tenants that were signed up.
XII. ADJOURNMENT
� Moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez, by
minute motion adjourned the meeting to January 21 , 1997. Carried 5-0. The
meeting was adjourned at 7:27 p.m.
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