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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING
TUESDAY - AUGUST 19, 1997
7:00 P.M. - CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Ferguson opened the public hearing at 7:00 p.m.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Campbell led in the pledge of allegiance.
III. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Jim Ferguson, Chairperson
Paul Beaty
Sonia Campbell
George Fernandez
Sabby Jonathan
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Phil Drell Steve Smith
Bob Hargreaves Mark Greenwood
Martin Alvarez Tonya Monroe
+�+ IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Consideration of the August 5, 1997 meeting minutes.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Beaty, seconded by Commissioner Campbell, approving
the August 5, 1997 meeting minutes. Carried 3-0-2 (Commissioners Fernandez
and Jonathan abstained).
V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION:
None.
VI. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None.
VII. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Case No. PMW 97-16 - FRANK TRANE, Applicant
Request for approval of a parcel map waiver to allow a lot line
adjustment between Lot 6 and Lot 7 located on Calle de la Silla.
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B. Case No. PMW 97-20 - MR. & MRS. PAUL D. LEVY, Applicant .r�+
Request for approval of a parcel map waiver to allow a lot line
adjustment between a residential lot (Lot 5) and golf course property
on Menil Place within Bighorn Country Club.
C. Case No. PMW 97-21 - FOXX DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, Applicant
Request for approval of a parcel map waiver to allow a lot line
adjustment for Lots 21 , 22 and 23 of Tract 23984-2 on Grand Canyon
Lane within The Grove.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Beaty, seconded by Commissioner Campbell, approving
the Consent Calendar by minute motion. Motion carried 5-0.
Vlll. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Continued Case Nos. TPM 28630 and ADJ 97-8 - PALM DESERT
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, Applicant
Request for approval of a Tentative Parcel Map to subdivide a 28,400
square foot parcel into two, each 13,068 square feet. Request
includes an Adjustment of 932 square feet to permit (2) 13,068 square
foot lots in the R-1 14,000 zone. Property is located on the southeast
corner of De Anza Way and San Pascual Avenue.
Mr. Drell indicated that this case was continued from the last meeting to initiate
some discussion between the applicant and surrounding property owners. Staff
was recommending approval, but also provided commission with a resolution of
denial because this item was also scheduled for City Council on August 28 at the
request of the applicant and because of time considerations. Since the Council
would be reviewing this and making the ultimate decision anyway, staff felt it
was appropriate for the Planning Commission to make a recommendation, either
yea or nay, based on what was before them.
Chairperson Ferguson noted that finding number 2 to approve the Adjustment
stated that there must be exceptional or extraordinary circumstances or
conditions applicable to the property involved that did not apply generally to
other properties in the same vicinity. He said he understood that this issue was
raised at a previous Planning Commission hearing when the request was made
by a private owner. It was denied. It went to City Council and was denied. He
asked what was different now as opposed to then. Mr. Drell replied nothing, but
stated that staff recommended approval then and was recommending approval
now. Staff felt that there were similarly situated properties which exist in that
area that have been divided and are smaller. It was an exceptionally large parcel,
almost twice the size of the zoning limit in the zone. Historically, adjustments
this small have been approved by the City, especially when the lots being created
are of the proposed size. In the general area lot sizes range from 8,000 to
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20,000 and 13,000 was probably larger than 80% of the lots in the entire City.
That was the basis of the original staff recommendation and that had not
changed.
Chairperson Ferguson asked why this property was zoned R-1 14,000. Mr. Drell
explained that when the city originally adopted the zoning map in 1975, they
generally looked at existing subdivision patterns and zoned blocks as consistent
with that pattern as they could. There were certain areas where they zoned
property high and the zoning was larger than some of the parcels. In this case
the zoning was considerably below this lot. There were a variety of lot sizes in
this neighborhood. Chairperson Ferguson noted that finding number 3 said that
the Planning Commission was supposed to make a strict or literal interpretation
and enforcement of the specified regulation would deprive the applicant of the
privileges enjoyed by the owners of other properties in the same vicinity or zone.
He stated that applied to the previous owner that was denied. Mr. Drell replied
that none of it applied to the previous owner because variances applied to
conditions of the land, not to ownership, and it applied to other similarly situated
corner parcels that have been divided in the past. Chairperson Ferguson asked
if Mr. Drell knew how many lots in the Palma Village area had lot splits done on
corner parcels of this size. Mr. Drell noted that the staff report identified three
large parcels that were granted adjustments. It typically resulted in construction
of very nice houses on them. The problem was that it has been staff's
experience that given the size of houses that typically got built in this
neighborhood, larger wouldn't get developed and the houses that have developed
on these large lots couldn't afford to landscape them and often they were not
�.. landscaped at all or half the lot was fenced off and the other half abandoned.
It has appeared to be economically impractical to develop these large lots in this
neighborhood, in most cases, although there were exceptions. Chairperson
Ferguson asked how many parcel splits had been denied previously, other than
the parcel under discussion. Mr. Drell believed that in his 17 years on staff, this
was the only one that had been denied. Chairperson Ferguson asked when the
previous request was denied. Mr. Drell replied 1990. Chairperson Ferguson
asked when it was acquired by the City. Mr. Drell deferred the question to the
applicant.
Commissioner Campbell asked if these homes would go through the Architectural
Review Commission. Mr. Drell said yes. He indicated that while a conceptual
plan was submitted with the staff report, to his knowledge it had not been
officially submitted for the city's review process. They would have to go
through Architectural Review.
Chairperson Ferguson noted that finding number 4 said that the granting of the
variance would not be detrimental to public health, safety or welfare or be
materially injurious to other property. He asked if commission should consider
diminution of property value in that analysis. Mr. Drell said they could, if in fact
the commission felt that the creation of 13,000 square foot lots would diminish
someone's property value. Chairperson Ferguson asked if that was a legitimate
factor. Mr. Drell said the commission could interpret that as they see fit.
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Chairperson Ferguson opened the public hearing and asked the applicant to
address the commission.
MS. TERRE LaROCCA noted that a couple of weeks ago she was before the
commission with a request for a lot split of this site at San Pascual and De
Anza. At that meeting the Planning Commission requested that they hold
a meeting with the neighborhood residents. To date they had not been able
to get together. If the commission so chose to continue this matter tonight,
they were willing to do that until they could hold a meeting with the
residents to try and address their concerns and alleviate some fears they
may have. They would be proceeding to the City Council at their next
meeting on April 28 to request participation in the program contingent upon
a resolution of this matter with regard to the lot split and/or identification
of a different parcel. She said that the builder has been working with the
Planning Department in trying to identify and address an acceptable design
for those sites and the developer was present to address the commission.
MR. STEVE JONES, representing the Boys and Girls Club Building Horizon's
Program, informed commission that the quality of the house that the
students build is well above average and their price of $107,000 on these
houses is close to what seemed to be the average selling price in the
neighborhood. They did a comparison for the area and it looked like some
of the selling prices had been as low as $1 10,000 in the recent year. The
house they were proposing to build was a little over 2,000 square feet
under roof, 1 ,465 square feet of living space, and about 450 square feet of
garage and mechanical area. While the homes were built by junior and Mal
senior high school students, under the direction of a project coordinator and
assistants, many facets of construction were supervised by what he felt
were some of the finest contractors in the valley. Most of the contractors
donated their time to the construction process and donated materials as
well. This included landscaping, which he felt was above average for the
area. He asked for any questions.
Commissioner Jonathan asked about previous projects that the Building Horizons
program completed.
Mr. Jones stated that they have constructed two homes each year for the
last three years in La Quinta. The last two homes were built last year with
about 24 students from area high schools. These homes were sold and
went into escrow in April and closed in late June. These homes were
typically bought by hardworking families. They just needed assistance with
affordable housing. The homes last year were sold to single mothers, one
with three children, one with two.
Commissioner Jonathan asked if he experienced any resistance from the
neighbors with any of those projects.
Mr. Jones replied no. He stated that the homes were very typical for the
neighborhood and the quality was above average for the neighborhood and
the price was a little higher than the neighborhood in that case.
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•• Commissioner Beaty noted that the commission's packet indicated that there
was to be a meeting last night and asked Ms. LaRocca about it.
Ms. LaRocca said there wasn't a meeting because they weren't able to get
the residents, as well as the developer, together. Mr. Reid, whom she
talked to on Friday, was going to be out of town yesterday. They were
more than willing to continue this until they could have that meeting.
Chairperson Ferguson asked if there was any reason, since they all appeared to
be at the meeting tonight, why this item couldn't be postponed until the end of
the public hearings to give everyone an opportunity to talk.
Ms. LaRocca agreed.
Chairperson Ferguson said his concern was that they be given an opportunity to
talk this through, talk to the builder to see what they are proposing, and his
experience had been that a lot of opposition got bred by lack of information and
once they were fully informed if they were still prepared to oppose it, he was
more than willing to listen to their arguments, but he wanted them to at least
hear, on a one-on-one with the Redevelopment Agency. He noted that the RDA
Executive Director was present, the residents were here, and that was his
suggestion. He indicated that conference room next door would be made
available and Mr. Drell would check with them as the evening progressed.
Action:
vow It was moved by Commissioner Beaty, seconded by Commissioner Campbell, to
move this hearing item down on the agenda by minute motion. Motion carried
5-0.
B. Case No. CUP 97-9 - FRANCES S. DeNUIT, Applicant
Request for approval of a conditional use permit to operate an
academic tutoring business for a maximum of 12 students within the
building located at 73-350 El Paseo, Unit No. 105.
Mr. Alvarez indicated that the subject property was located at the southwest
corner of El Paseo and Lupine. The parcel is zoned general commercial and
houses a 13,000 square foot building. This building houses 14 individually
owned units and the majority of them were used as office space with a couple
of retail spaces. The applicant was requesting to establish an academic tutoring
business for a maximum of 12 students. The business would operate from 6:00
a.m. to 12:00 noon Monday through Friday. The academic tutoring business
would provide tutoring to students ranging from seventh to twelfth grade. The
property had a separate parking lot located at the rear of the building, with a
total of 48 off-street parking spaces. The site also had 20 on-street parking
spaces which were available to the business directly in front and on the street
side, which was Lupine Lane. The tenants shared 48 spaces and each was
allocated 3.5. The school use required one space per three students and one for
each instructor. The school would have a maximum of 12 students and one
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instructor which would require a total of five spaces. Staff conducted several
site visits and parking surveys which indicated that parking was underutilized and
the five spaces required could be accommodated with this underutilized parking.
An average of 32 spaces were available on several weekdays. The building only
has one vacancy and the businesses at that location generally served local
demand on a year around basis. The property owners' association gave tenant
approval and didn't feel that parking would be significantly impacted. Staff
recommended approval.
Commissioner Campbell asked if it was unit number 105. Mr. Alvarez indicated
it was 105 on the application, but when he checked this evening unit 105
appeared to be occupied by another user. He asked that the applicant clarify that
question.
MS. FRANCES DE NUIT, the applicant, informed commission that the front,
less the 200 square feet, was currently occupied by a friend of hers as an
incubator for her retail clothing. Ms. DeNuit said that she has the remainder
of the building and their agreement to meet the requirements of the Fire
Marshal was that the current pass-through door that is currently closed
would be open during the school hours to meet the necessary health and
safety codes.
Commissioner Campbell asked if she would keep the retail frontage and if the
students would be using that front door.
Ms. DeNuit said that the front door would serve as a second door. The
students would enter off the parking lot, which would be the front door for
the school. The retail would remain in the front.
Chairperson Ferguson asked Mr. Alvarez what effect, if any, the Pedestrian
Overlay Zone had on this building. Mr. Alvarez replied no effect.
Chairperson Ferguson opened the public hearing and asked if anyone wished to
speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposal.
Commissioner Beaty asked for clarification regarding the type of students that
would be using this service since the hours would be 6:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m.,
which were normal school hours.
Ms. DeNuit stated that she was a musician and each student would become
a pianist. She said she had a teaching studio for more than ten years and
headed Music Teachers Association of California up in Stanislaw County for
many years. They started at 6:00 a.m. before regular business office hours
start.
Commissioner Beaty asked if she would be tutoring in music only, or in various
other subjects.
Ms. DeNuit said that this would be a full academic, private school.
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+r. Commissioner Beaty asked for clarification that these students would not be
attending another high school.
Ms. DeNuit replied no, private school.
Commissioner Jonathan noted that the application before the commission was
for a conditional use permit that was described as an academic tutoring business.
Ms. DeNuit said that was correct.
Commissioner Jonathan asked if that was different in some way from a private
school.
Ms. DeNuit replied no.
Commissioner Jonathan concluded that this was an application for a private
school.
Ms. DeNuit confirmed that was correct.
Commissioner Jonathan said that students would then be dropped off, would
stay there for the majority of the school day and be picked up at the end.
Ms. DeNuit said that was correct, unless they drove their own cars.
Commissioner Jonathan asked for clarification on the student ages.
Ms. DeNuit said they would be grades seven through 12.
Commissioner Jonathan asked if they were required at that age to have physical
education/facilities.
Ms. DeNuit replied no.
Commissioner Jonathan asked if this would be a state licensed school.
Ms. DeNuit said that the state doesn't license private schools. They provide
an affidavit and if the student wants to use a private school in lieu of
attending public, then the curriculum had to be provided. Some may only
want to attend for one year and she said she uses the seminar approach to
learning so that many people might choose to come to this tutoring
environment as a one or two year project. She said the state of California
does not require physical education every year.
Mr. Drell asked if this was similar to home schooling.
Ms. DeNuit replied no.
Commissioner Jonathan asked if the schooling operation would be qualified to
grant diplomas.
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Ms. DeNuit replied yes. She explained that she is a licensed administrator
in the state of California and has a preliminary administrative services
credential. This was her specialty area.
Commissioner Jonathan asked if the curriculum would be in compliance with
state requirements for graduating with a high school diploma.
Ms. DeNuit said that there are no state mandated requirements for private
schools, however, in this particular environmental she was following the
state's framework which the public schools in the state follow with her
curriculum design because she felt that was critical. She said that she was
applying for accreditation, Western Association of Schools and Colleges,
that accredit both public and private schools in the western states.
Commissioner Jonathan said they wouldn't be seeing school kids running around
in the parking lot doing physical education exercises.
Ms. DeNuit replied no.
Commissioner Campbell asked for clarification that a child could begin at Ms.
DeNuit's school in the seventh grade and finish through the twelfth grade.
Ms. DeNuit said they could, but it wouldn't be likely. She was going to
encourage a one-year enrollment in her program.
Commissioner Campbell asked if she would be teaching all the subjects, not just
music.
Ms. DeNWt indicated they would have integrated language arts and social
sciences and this year the theme was American democracy and
volunteerism. The science and mathematics would be an integrated
program and their laboratory would be the Living Desert in terms of their
observations. She also planned to take the students to Cabo Pumo, south
of La Paz, for an intercession for language and science and she would be
working with the university in La Paz for their science curriculum and marine
science there.
Commissioner Campbell asked when the music sessions were conducted if she
would begin that at 6:00 a.m. and most businesses would begin at 8:00 a.m.
She asked if the other tenants knew that this was what was being proposed.
Ms. DeNuit said they knew she had her concert grand in there and she plays
every morning.
Commissioner Campbell asked if there were any objections.
Ms. DeNuit said they liked her music, so far, and sometimes they came over
and asked her to play.
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Chairperson Ferguson closed the public hearing and asked for commission
comments.
Commissioner Jonathan noted that the area is zoned General Commercial and
asked if schooling was a permitted use under that zoning pursuant to a
conditional use permit. Mr. Drell replied that historically it has been. They have
approved and sometimes not approved schools in the C-1 zone in the past.
Commissioner Jonathan noted that they have approved preschools in residential
zones, but didn't recall them in the General Commercial zone. He asked if it was
a permitted use. Mr. Drell said that permitted conditional uses included grocery
stores, hospitals, hotels, mortuaries, and public utilities. Basically what was
prohibited were industrial uses in residential areas. Historically they have
considered these, if they have been small enough and a low enough intensity, in
the General Commercial zone. Mr. Drell noted they have also rejected some. He
recalled that there was a large vocational school that was originally located in the
area that the City encouraged to relocate when it became too large. He said
there was a computer school that was approved on Highway 1 1 1 . They also
have had the ballroom dance schools that were approved. A karate school.
They have been very sensitive to them because they could, especially when they
involved older students and large numbers and a turning over curriculum with
class after class with students coming and going. That was something that has
been considered. Some were approved and some were denied.
Commissioner Campbell said that as far as being on El Paseo and as President
of the El Paseo Business Association, they have almost exempted that building
+�... from the Pedestrian Overlay zone because it was not located close to the
sidewalk, so as long as there is a retail use in the front portion, she was not
opposed to the tutoring school at this location. She felt it would bring more
people to the street since the parents would be picking up the younger students
that didn't drive. She was in favor of the school and moved for approval.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Motion carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1823, approving CUP 97-9,
subject to conditions. Motion carried 5-0.
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C. Case No. CUP 97-11 - KELLY YAMADA, Applicant .nf
Request for approval of a conditional use permit to operate a 4,200
square foot massage/health establishment for property located at 74-
121/125 Highway 1 1 1 .
Mr. Drell commented that massage establishments were regulated by the Zoning
Ordinance to a certain extent and to a greater extent by the Municipal Code. The
issue before the Planning Commission was its narrow land use impact and
whether it was appropriate as a personal service, not how it relates or complies
with that section of the code that specifically regulates the employment,
location, etc. That would be an issue for the City Council when they apply for
their massage permit and there would be proposals based upon the applicant's
request, and to a certain degree with staff's support, to suggest some
amendment to that code. This was purely how a personal service or salon would
impact land use.
Mr. Alvarez explained that the subject property is located on the south side of
Highway 1 1 1 approximately 200 feet west of El Paseo. The site has six off-
street parking spaces in front of the building. The applicant would also add eight
additional spaces in the rear of the building, repaving both parking areas. The
proposed operation was for a massage/health establishment within a 4200
square foot unit. The establishment would contain a variety of uses which
include retail use, a small office space, massage rooms and an exercise/
instruction room. He broke down the specific uses by their square footage, the
parking requirement by the City's ordinance, and the number of spaces required.
He said that a total of 16 spaces were required based on the specific uses. The
applicant would have a total of 14 off-street spaces. In front of the building
there were also four on-street spaces which are directly in front of the building.
He felt these spaces could accommodate the two spaces that were deficient
from this project. He indicated that the hours of operation would be from 8:00
a.m. to 8:00 p.m. seven days a week. The business would offer group classes
like yoga and stretching in the mornings, massage classes in the afternoons, and
some community education. The retail part of the business would vary
depending upon the times of day people chose to shop. As far as parking, staff
was prepared to recommend approval with the two deficient spaces being
accommodated by the on-street parking. Based solely on its land use
compatibility and zoning ordinance requirements, this project met those
requirements.
Chairperson Ferguson asked if there was a rear entry into this building. Mr.
Alvarez said there was and access was from an alley which runs off of El Paseo.
Chairperson Ferguson said he was trying to ascertain how realistic it would be
that people would parking in the rear of the building. Mr. Alvarez stated that
there is other parking in the rear that is utilized through that alley. There was a
dentist office which sits in back. He felt it could be well utilized. Chairperson
Ferguson said he would address that with the applicant as well.
Chairperson Ferguson o ened the public hearing and asked the applicant to
address the commission.
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�,. MRS. KELLY YAMADA addressed the commission and said that she and her
husband would own the business together and introduced Mr. Gary
Hopkins, the current owner of the building. She stated that she was
present to answer any questions.
Chairperson Ferguson asked if Mrs. Yamada anticipated that people would use
the back parking lot area and being able to access their facility through the back
door.
Mrs. Yamada said they could make the back door accessible for public use
or they could come around to the front.
Chairperson Ferguson asked how many employees she would have.
Mrs. Yamada indicated that would vary on the use at a given time. They
would have six massage rooms, an instructional area usually one instructor
at a time, one or two people in the office, and one person looking after the
retail area.
Chairperson Ferguson suggested a condition of approval that the employees be
required to park in the rear of the facility. Mr. Drell said that could be added.
Mrs. Yamada concurred.
Commissioner Campbell stated that when she completed her site inspection, she
`+ noticed that the parking to the east of the building was not for public parking,
but belonged to another building. None of her employees or customers would
be able to park in that location.
Mrs. Yamada said that those spaces were fairly well marked as to their
restricted use now and the anticipated times of higher use would be after
hours of most businesses, on weekends when the resort clientele comes in,
all day Saturday, and after hours.
Commissioner Campbell asked if Mrs Yamada had noticed how lit the alley is in
the evening.
Mrs. Yamada stated that they would be happy to put in additional lighting
if it was necessary.
Chairperson Ferguson asked for a rough approximation of how many employees
would be present during a slow time versus a high use time.
Mrs. Yamada said that if, on a Saturday, they had six treatments going on
at the same time, that would mean six employees, one in the Desert
Massage Associate's office and at least one in the retail area.
Chairperson Ferguson stated that he was very impressed by Mrs. Yamada's
proposal included with the Commission's packet labeled Exhibit A and wanted
to make it clear for the record that they were talking about the type of services
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similar in nature in terms of quality and professionalism that they provided at
Marriott's Rancho Las Palmas, La Quinta Resort, the Ritz Carlton, the Spa Hotel,
etc.
Mrs. Yamada said that all of the therapists would have a minimum of 500
hours, which is higher than required by Palm Desert.
Chairperson Ferguson asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposal. There was no one. Chairperson Ferguson closed
the public hearing and asked for commission comments.
Commissioner Beaty stated that he was very impressed by the presentation and
thought it seemed to be a professional operation. He was in favor and move for
approval.
Commissioner Jonathan asked if that was subject to the additional condition of
approval requiring employee parking in the rear. Commissioner Beaty concurred.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Beaty, seconded by Commissioner Jonathan, approving
the findings as presented by staff. Motion carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner Beaty, seconded by Commissioner Jonathan, adopting
Planning Commission Resolution No. 1824, approving CUP 97-1 1 , subject to
conditions as amended. Motion carried 5-0.
IX. MISCELLANEOUS
A. CONTINUED CASE NOS. GPA 97-3, C/Z 97-9, PP 97-9 - LOWE
ENTERPRISES COMMERCIAL GROUP, INC., Applicant
Per Planning Commission direction on July 15 and August 5, 1997,
presentation of a resolution recommending to City Council approval of
a General Plan Amendment from Office Professional to District
Commercial, a Change of Zone from Office Professional (O.P.) To
District Commercial (PC2), Precise Plan of Design for a 125,000
square foot retail commercial center, amendment to the existing
development agreement and Negative Declaration of Environmental
Impact as it pertains thereto for an 11 .95 acre site at the southwest
corner of El Paseo and Highway 1 1 1 .
Mr. Drell noted that this item was continued to the last meeting to allow the
commission to see a more final development agreement. In the commission's
packet there was a first draft of a more amended development agreement and
he just passed out a second draft which occurred and had some minor
corrections as a result of discussions with the applicant's attorney and was
assured that they were nonsubstantive changes. The commission also had a
definitive traffic study and a one paragraph summary of it. The mitigation
measures required and identified were the same ones that were included in the l
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�. last report. East and west bound left turn lanes from Highway 1 1 1 to Town
Center Way and El Paseo, eastbound right turn lane from Highway 1 1 1 , resigning
existing lanes, El Paseo/Town Center Way, reconfiguring the existing signal, and
the installation of a traffic signal at El Paseo and Painters Path. The conclusion
was that as a result of this project the level of service would remain at "C". In
the year 2010 the level of service would be "D". He was assured by the Traffic
Engineer and in studying the report, that intersection would be at "Y with or
without that project as a result of normal growth. This one project at 125,000
square feet was probably one tenth of the commercial square footage located on
the four corners: the Town Center, Palms to Pines, and 1 1 1 Town Center. He
stated that he would like to delete one of the conditions of approval listed as
Public Works condition 18 requiring the construction of a bridge. He clarified
that this approval did not require the construction of a bridge. The bridge is
shown on the plan and staff knew that the applicant intends to build it, but it is
not a required improvement. He said there might be further discussions during
the next week or so relative to that issue when it goes to Council. He indicated
that it had to do with certain issues within the Redevelopment Agency DDIA.
He said that the substantive amendments to the Development Agreement were
as described in the last report relative to the requirement for a gourmet market,
control of the tenants, the restaurants and pad stores, position of the adjustment
to the agreement relative to the changed use, the changed size of the project,
the fees, etc.
Commissioner Campbell asked for clarification that the applicant would not be
�r. mandated to build the bridge. Mr. Drell agreed and said they were
recommending the deletion of that condition. Commissioner Campbell asked if
the developer was still planning to build it. Mr. Drell deferred the question to the
developer. Once the plan was approved, the City would expect the developer to
build it unless an amended was requested for any reason, but the bridge would
not be a specific requirement.
Chairperson Ferguson asked if the plan approved by the commission in July with
a bridge would be approved tonight, they were just not requiring him to build
what was approved earlier. Mr. Drell said that they have never approved a plan.
Commissioner Jonathan informed the commission that this was one of the two
continued matters on the agenda that he reviewed the minutes and listened to
the tapes on and he planned to participate in the discussion and vote on the
matter. He understood that back in July Planning Commission gave approval and
simply directed staff to prepare the appropriate resolutions. Mr. Drell said that
the commission directed staff to prepare resolutions of approval and prepare
conditions of approval since there weren't any and they had yet to vote on that
resolution. Chairperson Ferguson said that the site plan before commission then
was not before the commission tonight. Mr. Drell said it was, the site plan was
the same. Commissioner Jonathan clarified that they have a site plan that
includes a bridge, but the city wasn't requiring them to build it. Commissioner
Jonathan asked why they were doing that since it was inconsistent and asked
what the purpose was in deleting it. Mr. Drell said it wasn't being deleted from
the plan, but as a condition of approval. For example, there were three pads
shown out front. If the developer came in and said he didn't want to build on
one of the pads and wanted to keep it open, the city couldn't say that they had
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to build that building. It was an amenity being provided which he need not
provide. Commissioner Jonathan felt there were other implications which were
very significant, including traffic flow, diversions and so forth. If the commission
chose not to delete the condition, he asked if staff had a specific objection or if
staff saw a possible problem in not deleting that condition. Mr. Drell suggested
that should be answered by a representative of the Redevelopment Agency.
Commissioner Beaty asked if this was the same bridge that was addressed under
the Fire Department conditions. Mr. Drell concurred and clarified that if a bridge
is built, it had to be built to a certain standard.
Mr. Dave Yrigoyen, a Redevelopment Agency representative, said they were
present to address that specific item with regards to building the bridge.
Essentially their concern was that the Disposition Development Agreement that
they initially agreed to with Lowe Development identified that should the City or
Agency request or require the building of the bridge, the Agency would
participate with the construction of that bridge in the amount of $400,000. That
was placed in there as an option in the event that the City or Agency saw a need
for that to be developed, they would do so. They have had several discussions
with the City's Engineering Department with regard to the development of that
bridge and essentially the traffic patterns that they way generated at that
development would not require the development of that bridge as a condition for
approval of that development and essentially what they were saying was that
since that issue was not something that would require the approval of the
development, it should not be something that the City would require for the
development and the developer would build it. If he saw a need for it and the
City or Agency saw a need for it, then the City or Agency would assist the
developer in doing that. Chairperson Ferguson concluded that in all this time the
applicant has been operating under the assumption that they would build a bridge
and it wasn't until tonight that the city decided they didn't want a bridge
because it would cost too much. Mr. Yrigoyen replied that it wasn't necessarily
that they didn't want it, but that it should be an option when the City or Agency
saw a need for it, but not as a condition of approval of the development. The
prior development did not require the bridge to be built and essentially it was
solely at the option of the City or Agency to assist in the development, whether
they saw a need for it or not. Commissioner Jonathan noted that Mr. Yrigoyen
was partly motivated from a financial standpoint, in his opinion, and what he
was hearing Mr. Yrigoyen say was that they didn't have a specific objection to
the bridge, but from the Agency's perspective, they didn't see a need to make
it a condition of approval. Mr. Yrigoyen said that was essentially correct.
Commissioner Jonathan asked Mr. Drell if the bridge exists in the precise plan,
if it would be a violation of the Planning Commission's approval if the bridge did
not get built. Mr. Drell said the applicant would have to come back with an
amendment to the precise plan.
Chairperson Ferguson asked which engineers Mr. Yrigoyen was referring to; Mr.
Yrigoyen said they talked with Joe Gaugush and Dick Folkers, who essentially
indicated to RDA that was not a condition that they would place on the
development and that was not something they saw a need for with regard to
traffic circulation patterns. Chairperson Ferguson asked Mr. Greenwood if the }
traffic study and his memo were predicated on a bridge being there or if in his
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.. professional opinion it was immaterial. Mr. Greenwood replied that the traffic
study is based on the bridge being there and shows approximately 5 percent of
project traffic using that bridge. Specifically, 10 percent of exiting traffic. He
believed that the peak volume was about 40 vehicles per hour. If those 40
vehicles were to use the other three project driveways, he didn't believe that
would seriously affect the level of service. It might make some difference, but
he felt it would remain in the same basic range. He clarified that the overall level
of service for the intersection would be C in the year 2010 based on this traffic
study. The D was the worst movement at an intersection that would be a
particular left turn or particular through movement, so the worst movement
would be a D but the overall intersection would be a C and that represented very
good traffic conditions.
Commissioner Jonathan suggested that it might be appropriate to continue this
matter to a later point on the agenda and revisit the earlier matter since the
people who were formerly first were now back. Chairperson Ferguson said he
still had a lot of questions about this case and agreed with Commissioner
Jonathan.
Mr. Yrigoyen pointed out that in their review of the August 5 continued
conditions of approval, that item was not a condition of approval at that time and
was now a condition of approval at this point in time. He was wondering if that
was an issue at that time, why it wasn't a condition of approval then.
Chairperson Ferguson said it was because he didn't know about it. Mr. Yrigoyen
said that he didn't mean him specifically, he just wanted to bring out at this time.
%W Chairperson Ferguson asked for a minute motion to continue this discussion until
after they resume the discussions on the.parcel split.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Commissioner Campbell,
postponing this item to later on the agenda by minute motion. Motion carried 5-
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Continued Case Nos. TPM 28630 and ADJ 97-8 - PALM DESERT
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, Applicant
Request for approval of a Tentative Parcel Map to subdivide a 26,136
square foot parcel into two, each 13,068 square feet. Request
includes an Adjustment of 932 square feet to permit (2) 13,068 square
foot lots in the R-1 14,000 zone. Property is located on the southeast
corner of De Anza Way and San Pascual Avenue.
Chairperson Ferguson reopened discussion on this public hearing and asked for
the applicant to address the commission with a progress report.
Ms. LaRocca thanked the residents for meeting with staff. They discussed
the background of-this project and how they got to where they are tonight.
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In addition, the program was described and how it has worked in the city
of La Quinta and how they expected it to work in the city of Palm Desert,
along with a description of the design and construction of the house. They
came to some agreements and that was that it was a good program and
that the quality of the house was not going to be a negative quality. It
would be of high quality construction because of the supervision given to
the students. They were not able to agree on the split of this lot at this
time, but she indicated for the record that the house is 2,000 square feet
under roof. They anticipated that the appraised value would be around
$130,000 although it would sell for much less because of the Agency's
participation in making it affordable. With that, she suggested that the
commission take comments from the residents.
Chairperson Ferguson noted that the findings required for this application
sounded similar to that of a variance, yet they were being told it was an
adjustment and they've previously considered exceptions. He asked for
clarification. Mr. Drell said that it is an adjustment, which is a minor variance.
Typically the adjustment is heard at staff level. It is an in-office decision.
Notices go out. Based on response to the notice the Planning Director makes the
decision. Based upon his intimate knowledge of the history of this property, he
immediately declined to make that decision and scheduled it before the Planning
Commission. A variance under 10 percent on lot sizes is called an adjustment
in the code, but it was in the same section as variances and required the same
findings as a variance. Chairperson Ferguson indicated that the same standards
the commission applies were the same as if it were a greater than 10 percent #
variance. Mr. Drell said it was a matter of interpretation, but the commission
could evaluate degree of hardship, degree of exceptionality, etcetera, based on
the degree of variance or adjustment requested. The greater the variance from
the code, the greater burden has to be placed on making those findings. With
a teeny adjustment, maybe they only had to find a teeny hardship. Chairperson
Ferguson said that could mean it depended on the eye of the beholder. Mr. Drell
concurred and said it was a matter of judgement.
Chairperson Ferguson asked if anyone wished to address the commission in
FAVOR or OPPOSITION.
MR. J. TERRY REID, 73-691 De Anza Way in Palm Desert, stated that he
had a couple of question for RDA. First, they received legal notices in the
mail and said that the last one they received, the one for August 28, said
that the Case No. was TPM 28630 and was to be put in the Post on August
14. It was, but in the Post is said Case No. TPM 25900. He asked which
one they were going to use and about the expiration on TPM 25900.
Chairperson Ferguson asked Mr. Reid if he was sincerely confused about why he
was at the meeting tonight or if he was raising a technical objection.
Mr. Reid said it was technical because he had others to go along with this.
Chairperson Ferguson referred the question to the City Attorney and staff
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,., Mr. Alvarez stated that he could clear up the confusion. Originally this parcel
map was noticed under the Case No. TPM 25900. Soon after, they found out
that the parcel map had been denied and would have to given a new number.
Once it was noticed again for City Council, the correction was made with the
new parcel number.
Chairperson Ferguson asked the City Attorney if the notice was legally defective.
Mr. Hargreaves stated that generally, notices reviewed under a substantial
compliance prejudice standard, so if there was substantial compliance and no one
could bring forth any real prejudice from whatever anomaly might have existed,
then the notice would be adequate.
Mr. Reid said that he had no opposition, although he had more opposition
on the notice and the property assessor parcel number. He asked if the City
owned the prescribed APN number 627-143-009 as advertised in the legal
notice.
Chairperson Ferguson said he assumed they think they do.
Mr. Reid stated that he had the answer to that. He said that the owner of
lot 009 resides in Los Angeles, Mr. Robert S. Scott. The notice states that
APN.
Chairperson Ferguson asked him again if he was raising this as a technical
deficiency.
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Mr. Reid said that the legal notice was inaccurate and misleading. It said
the southeast corner and it was on the northwest corner.
Chairperson Ferguson asked Mr. Reid if he was confused about which piece of
property that is being discussed tonight. He asked if he relied on the APN
number and parcel map number, or if he recognized the map and notice.
Mr. Reid said he recognized the map and notice and then when he checked
the APN number that was when he found the problem.
Chairperson Ferguson clarified that the City does own the parcel in question.
Mr. Reid agreed, but not as listed under that APN number.
Chairperson Ferguson concurred, but noted that if it was in substantial
compliance and there was no confusion generated by it other than his very
diligent research.
Mr. Reid said that the only other thing was, if they let them build on that lot
and gave them an approval, then they could put an injunction not to build
those houses because it was advertised falsely. He asked if that was
correct.
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Chairperson Ferguson deferred to the City Attorney. Mr. Hargreaves answered
that if a court reviewed the adequacy of the notice of standard to be in
substantial compliance and prejudice, then if someone would come forth with
evidence that there was actual prejudice due to confusion with the notice, then
the court could possibly hold that the notice was inadequate.
Mr. Reid stated that he felt it was an admirable program for the high school
students to build those homes and he was in favor of that, but was
opposed to any lowering of the value of their houses.
MR. BOB DOWNS, 73-748 De Anza, stated that he lives directly across the
street from this piece of property. He said he has no problem with the lots
being split as long as the houses had 2,000 square feet or better of living
area and that they do a better job of showing them the plans of what they
would look like and more detail on exactly what would be built there. If
they don't go at least 2,000 square feet on the house, he was totally
opposed to any split. With 2,000 square feet, if it was sold a second time
it would be worth that much more.
Chairperson Ferguson asked Mr. Downs how many square feet his home is.
Mr. Downs said his home is 2400 square feet, plus a garage.
Commissioner Jonathan noted that Mr. Downs was referring to a 2,000 square
foot minimum living area, exclusive of a garage.
Mr. Downs concurred and did not want it to include any other out building.
The 2,000 square feet should only be for living, dining, bedrooms, as long
as it was really a living area.
Commissioner Jonathan asked if that was because the surrounding homes were
that size or larger.
Mr. Downs agreed that the homes he knows of were that size or larger. He
said there were smaller lots and smaller houses, but that was why they
became a city to start with because they could direct the way they wanted
to go and the County of Riverside let people do what they wanted up to a
certain point. Since they became a city, most of that had gone away. He
felt this was a direct case of going back the other way of where someone
gets what they want and didn't worry about anyone else in the
neighborhood.
Chairperson Ferguson asked if Mr. Downs presented this concern to the
Redevelopment Agency.
Mr. Downs said yes, but only since he arrived at the meeting tonight.
Chairperson Ferguson noted that with housing projects such as this, they record
documents against the title on the property and asked if that would happen in
this case.
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Mr. Downs thought they could put the CC&Rs where the house had to be
built.
Chairperson Ferguson added restricting use and transferability in the future which
may affect the value that Mr. Downs believes these will have upon its second
transferral.
Ms. LaRocca spoke from the audience and indicated that there would be
regulatory agreements.
Chairperson Ferguson said his only point was that it might not have the resale
value that Mr. Downs anticipates.
MR. C. ERIK BALTZAR, located on the south side of the lot, stated that his
original house was over 2800 square feet and as far as $105,000 being an
average, he owed over $130,000 on his house. He presumed what they
were saying was that he should walk away from his house and having paid
down on it all these years is a waste. As far as the high school program
was concerned, they were all for it. They'd like to see them build one
house on this lot. This is a magnificent lot. Unfortunately it was a corner
lot and on a corner lot there were greater setbacks than on a normal lot. If
there was some kind of arrangement that the city could come up with, put
in a 2500, 2800, 3000 square foot home, the whole neighborhood would
be working with them. They didn't want to see a magnificent lot split
becoming like everything else. If they looked in the neighborhood, they
would find the largest drug bust in Palm Desert. One house over from him
there was a small house, small lot, renters and across the street and up one
house they couldn't keep renters in that house and there were constant
theft and constant problems, constant noise at all hours day and night.
Police departments were having to expand their services, more units and
more officers because they were bringing in undesirable elements. They
were advertising for problems. He wanted to see the integrity of these lots
preserved simply because some day he would like to sell his house and at
least get out of it what's owed on it and if possible a little extra would be
nice. They were looking at a crime area, an investment area because of
health, safety and welfare and if they looked at the distance from the fire
hydrant on the corner of San Pascual and De Anza to his driveway, they
scarcely have room to park a car, which was very unsafe. He has seen
people park across the street from his house and be rammed because of
people coming around the corner too quickly. There were a lot of problems
with that area. He said it was a very long area from the fire hydrant down
the face of De Anza and two driveways on that street would be very
congestive. He stated that at the other house there were cars parked no
the lawn, on the driveway, beside it, and in front because there wasn't
enough room. He wasn't trying to say this was bad, they were saying that
it flies in La Quinta because the average lots in La Quinta were 50 x 100
feet. A house like this would fit quite well on that kind of a lot. This lot
was over 100 by 200 feet and this was the only place in the valley that he
was aware of that there was a lot that size. He asked why they should cut
it down and degrade it and make it like everyone else. They have
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something special and they should try and keep that. He acknowledged
that some of the houses haven't been landscaped, but he thought they
needed to look into some social issues and other problems that weren't
really government related as to what has happened to some of the lots and
why they didn't develop the way they wanted them developed. He felt
commission should vote no on this even though it was a good project and
come up with a way to let the Boys and Girls Club to build one house on
that lot and help their property values go up and get someone in there that
would increase their safety and help stabilize the market and preserve what
they have already gotten.
Chairperson Ferguson said he hoped that Mr. Baltzar wasn't suggesting that
crime was associated with the number of square feet in a home.
Mr. Baltzar said that the number of rentals increases crime.
Chairperson Ferguson clarified that he wasn't talking about rentals.
Mr. Baltzar felt that the more youngsters there were in a smaller
environment where they didn't have adequate room to play or to grow. The
other day there were kids throwing bottles and breaking bottles on rocks.
They should be home playing. He asked why they weren't home playing
and were out breaking beer bottles and abandoned bottles and trash and
answered it was because they didn't have room at home to play. The lots
were too small.
Chairperson Ferguson stated with all due respect that his own children live on a
lot that is 3,000 square feet smaller than the one proposed here.
Mr. Baltzar said that his children have parents and have direction.
Chairperson Ferguson asked if he was suggesting that anyone who lives on a lot
of this size or has a home of this size weren't fit parents.
Mr. Baltzar replied no, but from what he sees in that neighborhood right
now, they need to preserve the integrity of what they have and the
greatness they have in that neighborhood, which is the size of the lots and
try to stabilize them.
Chairperson Ferguson said he wasn't trying to give Mr. Baltzar a hard time and
those were not his issues and he hoped that because the city has programs that
assist people in getting $130,000 homes didn't make them hoodlums or children
evil. The city has Desert Rose which is a high quality low and moderate income
housing development with almost no crime, Merano is a private development
starting in the $130,000 range and they have no crime problems and the city
manager lives there, and he had a difficult time finding the nexus between the
size of the lot and the size of the home and the crime in Mr. Baltzar's
neighborhood. That didn't mean he didn't have other concerns, but he was
troubled by some of the conclusions he thought Mr. Baltzar was drawing about
socioeconomic status.
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Mr. Baltzar suggested that Chairperson Ferguson talk to the police
department to ask them about the increase in crime in their neighborhood
and the need for more units and more officers to comb the neighborhood.
Chairperson Ferguson said he didn't disagree with Mr. Baltzar, but pointed out
that they were talking about brand new homes, not dilapidated absent owner
homes that were leased out at a fraction of whatever value they may have had.
He agreed that there were problems in the Palma Village area but he wasn't sure
that what the Redevelopment Agency proposal contributed to those problems.
Mr. Baltzar felt that they were trying to take a neighborhood that was set
up to have large lots, large homes and comfortable surroundings for the
people that enjoy that particular element, irregardless of social economic
standings away from them, and creating something different that was not
intended to be that. If people want to live in La Quinta that was wonderful.
If people wanted to live off Haystack and Highway 74 that was wonderful.
Of the three people they talked with in the other room, two lived in
Bermuda Dunes and didn't live in Palm Desert. One lived off of Haystack.
None of them live in this neighborhood. They didn't want smaller houses
or smaller lots in their neighborhood.
MRS. BETTY CRAWFORD, 44-560 San Pascual, stated that she canvassed
her immediate block and all around San Carlos and San Juan, across De
Anza at several places. Because of the heat she hadn't been able to get to
everyone, but did have a lot of signatures of people that just don't want the
�. lot divided. They voted against it seven years ago and still felt the same
way now. She turned in the petition. She also said that she had a letter
that should be turned into the City Council.
Chairperson Ferguson said that the commission could review the letter to get it
into the record and then they would forward it on to City Council for her.
Chairperson Ferguson stated for the record that he was handed a letter from
John Bayardo and about 30 signatures of residents on San Pascual who were in
opposition to the proposal. He circulated the documents to the other
commissioners.
Chairperson Ferguson invited the applicant to readdress the commission.
Ms. LaRocca stated that with regard to the tentative parcel map, when that
was submitted they did note that there was an incorrect APN number and
they immediately contacted the developer and he contacted city staff. They
assumed that change was made but it may not have been. The
Redevelopment Agency owns parcel number 627-171-001 , not 009.
Regarding to the Unit Regulatory Agreement, that regulatory agreement
would be recorded with the County Recorder's office and it would restrict
resale price of the home based on a formula usually in conjunction with cost
of living increases or increases in median income by HUD. There would be
restrictions with regard to income of a buyer. The house would have to be
owner occupied. It could not be a rental property. There would also be
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various other conditions included in the regulatory agreement. In response
to that question, there would be a regulatory agreement recorded.
Mr. Jones said that it was asked in their meeting if he lived in this
neighborhood what he would think of this project. He thought there was
a great mix of housing in this neighborhood and in this particular area.
There was a wide range of home sizes and if there were no precedents for
lot splits, then he might think about it, but there is precedence and the
homes they are proposing are not all that much different if different at all
from other homes in the immediate neighborhood. They came to the
Redevelopment Agency with a market value of a little over $125,000. RDA
put a cap of $107,000 on the house. That wasn't to say they would build
a smaller house or a lesser house, but that was the cap that the
Redevelopment Agency gave them. If they were to sell it at market rate,
they would go back to $125,000 as the minimum price. They anticipate a
very close review by the Planning Commission because of the nature of this
program. Mr. Drell addressed a number of concerns at the last meeting that
they have responded to with a new site plan and they expected to go
through a lot of rigorous review on this program before they get under way.
He thought it was the nature of it and expected to do better than typical.
They expected the design quality to be better than typical because it is a
program that draws a great deal of attention, not only in the community,
but nationally. This program has been awarded top honors by the Boys and
Girls Club in 1996 as one of the best educational programs in the country
within the Boys and Girls Club system. They have received many other
accolades for this program and the vacant lot was probably more of a
distraction and more of a cause for problems in the neighborhood than the
two homes they propose to build there.
MR. CARLOS ORTEGA, Executive Director of the Redevelopment Agency,
stated that staff has given the commission the rules to consider and he
wouldn't talk about crime. He wanted to relay a story to the commission.
About ten years ago the City owned 12 lots in the Palma Village area, lots
around 7,000 square feet in size. They had a proposal to build on 11 of
those under the self-help program and the neighborhood was very
concerned that those lots would be built for affordable homes and as a
consequence, the conditions of approval in terms of size and design and
quality of design were more astringent on these then they would have been
had they not been under this program. What resulted was that the homes
built under this program were of higher quality. They were larger than those
that existed in the area and the families were screened. The families that
moved into the homes had a more stringent screening than would normally
apply in the open market. Looking at those homes now, they were better
kept than those in the surrounding neighborhood. If that was an issue, he
didn't think that this was something the neighbors needed to worry about.
Those families were well screened before they could participate in the
program and they have an incentive to do well because they have all those
restrictions.
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►•• Chairperson Ferguson closed the public hearing and asked for commission
comments.
Commissioner Campbell asked Mr. Jones if the home on the new plan was the
same number of square feet (1400 square feet).
Mr. Jones concurred and said the revised plan was for 1 ,465 square feet,
plus the garage and mechanical area.
Commissioner Campbell asked if he would have any problem building a home
2,000 square feet in size as requested by Mr. Downs.
Mr. Jones said they wouldn't have a problem other than they wouldn't fall
within the parameters of affordable housing and would not be economically
feasible for them.
Chairperson Ferguson asked why it wouldn't be economically feasible.
Mr. Jones clarified that they were under a cap of $107,000 for an
affordable home and to increase the footage from 1465 to 2000 square feet
wouldn't work.
Chairperson Ferguson addressed the question to the Redevelopment Agency. He
felt that the commission was put in an impossible situation by the
Redevelopment Agency and if it was a matter of simply increasing the square
footage to help preserve property values, he asked why that couldn't be worked
out.
Ms. LaRocca stated that the home would have to be available for a family
within certain income parameters, no higher than 120% of the county
median income and this home was targeted to families of about 80% of the
county median income; 100% of the county median for a family of four was
$46,300. If they took a family at 80%, they were talking about $32,000-
$36,000 annual income and they could not afford a home of 2,000 square
feet given the sales price unless the Agency was willing to buy that
mortgage down. That is what would have to happen.
Commissioner Campbell asked for clarification that the Redevelopment Agency
could buy the mortgage down.
Ms. LaRocca concurred and would have to be an Agency decision.
Commissioner Jonathan indicated that they had a situation where both parties
are right in some senses. The applicant has a good project before the
commission that was conceptually very appealing. It was good for the people
involved that would do the construction, good for the people involved that would
occupy the homes and it could be good for the neighborhood to have something
other than a vacant lot. The problem seemed to be the concerns of the
neighbors on the deterioration of their neighborhood and/or their property values.
It seemed that if they could allow the applicant's request to split the lots,
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because if this lot was a few square feet more this wouldn't be an issue before
commission. It was close enough that the applicant, in his opinion, has a right
to split the lot. However, to deal with the residents' concerns which have some
degree of validity, the requirement for 2,000 square feet of living area was
reasonable for the 14,000 square foot lots. If they imposed that requirement
that was a reasonable compromise of both parties. The Redevelopment Agency
would then not be required to build and if the condition made it economically
unfeasible to build it, so be it. However, if the Agency saw a need and wanted
to subsidize the mortgage or do whatever it needed to get the project built in
such a way that it was palatable to the neighbors, then they could have a win-
win situation. Unless there was another idea that seemed to be the only way to
have a win-win situation, which was specifically to allow the lot division, but
require a minimum 2,000 square foot home on each lot of living space.
Chairperson Ferguson noted that he requested that this be continued at the last
meeting in the hope that the Redevelopment Agency could get together with the
residents. That didn't happen until tonight. His concerns about the Agency and
he alluded to this last week. There was a private property owner that came to
the City and asked to divide that lot and the Planning Commission said no; it was
appealed to the City Council and they said no, then all of a sudden the City steps
in, buys the lot and wants to do the exact same thing because they are an
adjunct to the City and have more power and authority than a private property
owner and all of a sudden the commission was being asked to say yes. That
troubled him enormously. He thought that people wanted to have faith and trust
in their government and the perception that the city wouldn't allow the previous
property owner to do it so that we could come in and buy it ourselves he found
particularly troubling. The other aspect that concerned him was that he didn't
believe that the standards for an exception, the deviation, the variance or
whatever they wanted to call it, were met. He didn't think there was an
extraordinary hardship by not granting the parcel split. He thought there was an
extraordinary loss of opportunity for the neighborhood and for the City. He had
no quarrel with Desert Horizons whatsoever and thought they would build quality
housing. He was convinced that low and moderate income affordable housing
was not a crime problem and worked in the city. It troubled him that the
residents were never asked if they wanted this in their neighborhood before the
city bought the parcel. When he said that he thought the Agency put the
commission in an impossible position, he thought they had. If the commission
turns the request down the city is stuck with a 28,000 square foot lot or so, but
that was really the City's fault. In his opinion they should have done their
homework. If they go ahead and grant the parcel split, he agreed with
Commissioner Jonathan that they were talking about a de minimis variation of
what the zoning is in the area and if someone came in with exactly a 28,000
square foot lot and wanted to split it into two 14,000 square foot lots, they
wouldn't be having this discussion. What troubled him about the residents, and
he didn't impute this to all of them, was two things. Number one was Mr.
Downs' comment about 2,000 square feet making him happy and he wasn't sure
it would make the rest of them happy and didn't want to forge that compromise
right now. Number two, they live in a community where the median age in Palm
Desert is now 31 .5. There are children and people of moderate income and
means. He wouldn't equate that with crime. He knew there was crime in their
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..• neighborhood, knew there were dilapidated houses in the neighborhood, and
knew that there were absentee owners that didn't take care of their properties,
there were approximately 200 weed abatement cases from people who don't
take care of their property. He didn't believe it was fair, right or just for them to
impute all those social evils onto the Redevelopment Agency and Desert
Horizons. He has seen the homes in Desert Rose, our other housing projects and
they do work and decent people earn less than $50,000 per year. He didn't
want to impute those comments to everyone, but to the extent that they were
worried about vandalism and crime because of what they were doing here, he
has never seen any evidence of it in our city. Having said that, he had to choose
whether to go with the city and a program that is beneficial to students and
which in his own view felt was ultimately beneficial to the neighborhood, or
should he defer to the residents because they live there, it was their
neighborhood and they know what is good for their neighborhood under a
standard where the City is asking for something that is extraordinary and it was
akin to a variance and there must be exceptional hardship which he didn't see.
Given a choice of those two options, he had to go with the residents. Had the
proper homework been done and if they had worked with the residents and this
project hadn't been forced upon them without their prior consent or consultation,
they might not be having this meeting tonight. He wanted to see some sort of
resolution worked out and wasn't sure the time they have it tonight was
appropriate at all and didn't know if there was a resolution in terms of how big
the homes are and if the Redevelopment Agency could "eat it" and wasn't
comfortable making the Redevelopment Agency build 2,000 square foot homes
tonight if it didn't meet with their approval, so he would not be voting in favor
of the parcel split tonight. He would be more than happy to vote for additional
time for them to talk or in the alternative he would have to vote in the negative.
Mr. Downs spoke from the audience and asked if he would be willing to ask
for a show of hands on who would be in favor if there was a condition
requiring a 2,000 square foot minimum living area.
Chairperson Ferguson did so and noted that it appeared that the vote was
unanimous in favor.
Mr. Downs asked Mr. Ortega to address the issue.
Chairperson Ferguson stated that he didn't want to put Mr. Ortega in a position
of having to analyze this economically and giving them a decision tonight.
Commissioner Jonathan said he appreciated Chairperson Ferguson's comments
and he agreed that they were put in an awkward position that none of them like
and they would prefer applications where the applicant and all residents are in
agreement. Unfortunately as hard as they try, that doesn't always happen and
they can't always have all the parties involved completely satisfied. He said he
was motivated in this case to find a compromise that is maybe workable to all
parties involved and he was convinced, particularly after seeing the show of
hands, that the compromise he proposed earlier is a reasonable one. He would
make a motion to that effect.
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Chairperson Ferguson clarified his point that it wasn't that they could achieve quad
unanimity of purpose every time, it was just that he didn't feel the effort had
been made and since the City was the applicant, he felt the onus was on us to
make that effort and not wait until the night of the Planning Commission
meeting.
Commissioner Jonathan said that he was speaking more from his heart that he
felt uncomfortable whenever there isn't complete agreement and preferred it
when everyone was happy and felt that perhaps with this compromise it might
eventually result in that. He said his motion would approve the parcel split with
the requirement that each residence have a minimum living area of 2,000 square
feet. Chairperson Ferguson asked for a second to the motion.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Commissioner Campbell,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Motion carried 5-0.
Moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Commissioner Campbell,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No.1825, approving TPM 28630 and
ADJ 97-8, subject to conditions as amended. Motion carried 5-0.
Chairperson Ferguson called for a two minute recess. Chairperson Ferguson reconvened the
meeting and stated that the commission would continue with Miscellaneous Item A which
was continued from earlier in the meeting.
IX. MISCELLANEOUS
A. CONTINUED DISCUSSION OF CASE NOS. GPA 97-3, C/Z 97-9, PP 97-9 -
LOWE ENTERPRISES COMMERCIAL GROUP, INC., Applicant
Per Planning Commission direction on July 15 and August 5, 1997,
presentation of a resolution recommending to City Council approval of
a General Plan Amendment from Office Professional to District
Commercial, a Change of Zone from Office Professional (O.P.) To
District Commercial (PC2), Precise Plan of Design for a 125,000
square foot retail commercial center, amendment to the existing
development agreement and Negative Declaration of Environmental
Impact as it pertains thereto for an 11 .95 acre site at the southwest
corner of El Paseo and Highway 1 1 1 .
Chairperson Ferguson noted that the discussion left off at whether or not
condition number 18 should be included in the conditions of approval. He
opened it back up for commission discussion.
Mr. Drell felt that the issue was that there are two agreements: a development
agreement and a DDIA with the Redevelopment Agency. The applicant was
requesting that those agreements be amended to allow him to do a project which
those agreements do not presently permit him to do and like any agreement
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•• when one party opens up that agreement for renegotiation, then technically all
the points become open for renegotiation. The City and the Redevelopment
Agency have the option of refusing to amend the agreement. How they condition
it or what obligations are made per this new agreement was something that they
could base on the fact that they were now granting approval of a land
entitlement that was specifically withheld when that first agreement and DDIA
were signed. Therefore, as part of the granting of this amendment to the
agreements, what was included in the first didn't have to be included in the
second.
Chairperson Ferguson stated that if he understood it correctly, the developer who
submitted the precise plan (which he wasn't at the meeting to consider although
he listened to the tapes and read the minutes) he was under the assumption that
there would be Redevelopment Agency money to fund the bridge, put it in the
site plan, and had staff prepared resolutions of approval back in July when this
was voted on, it would have been in there and they wouldn't be having this
discussion. But for staff thinking that it would be denied and not preparing
resolutions of approval and this being continued over a month, now it looked like
they were trying to save $400,000. Mr. Drell stated that he was unaware of the
provision of the connection between the requirement of a bridge and the
Redevelopment Agency participation in the project. He was unaware of any
financial participation or didn't remember any financial participation by the
Agency. In his discussions with the developer on this particular project, he didn't
believe he ever said that he must have a bridge. Once it was there, we said he
should have it and it was shown, but was unaware of the Agency's financial
obligation.
Mr. Ortega addressed the commission. He said that they were the ones
that negotiated the agreement and he could provide the background. He
recalled that when those properties came up for rezoning in 1990 there
were a lot of concerns from the neighbors behind them as to giving the
parcel access. That was a big issue. Consequently the City Council
decided to zone it Office Professional and the reason they negotiated that
in that specific fashion was they said that if they denied them access from
the streets such that practically the only way they could access that parcel
was through Desert Crossing, and the City makes that decision and
wouldn't give them all that access for traffic purposes, but they still felt
that if they complied with the Office Professional zoning, that they could tell
them to get it through Desert Crossing and under those circumstances they
would participate. There was testimony that said that was not the case at
all. That it would not make an essential difference because they have now
provided other accesses onto that parcel. Also, the zoning and the plan that
were the subject of the DA and DDIA was what was before them. What
they were saying is that based on circumstances that they are considering
right now, the zoning and different use and the traffic circulation says that
given the accesses that are before them, the fact that the bridge does not
become an absolute requirement and they were asking that the bridge not
be a condition of approval.
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Chairperson Ferguson asked the applicant to comment on their understanding of
the bridge.
MR. TED LENNON, 72-058 Clancy Lane, stated that he too was involved
in the development of the original DDIA with Mr. Ortega and the City and
he had a different recollection of it. The issues at that time where it was
originally going to be part of the original funding and it was at the City's
request that it be put off and only become part of the package if and when
the other side of the property was developed and with that, they said that
was okay and fair as long as the money was set aside and budgeted for and
it was called for in the agreement. They worked with staff to have the
bridge and the original statement of conditions that came from traffic
division did in fact have the bridge in it and then for some reason the next
edition came out and they subsequently wrote to Chairperson Ferguson a
letter saying that condition #18 had suddenly come out of the agreement
that they had. They went back and negotiated with Mr. Drell and the bridge
issue and it all came back in. He thought with this agreement that they had
reached all conditions of approval with the city with the exception of one
item about the replacement of existing businesses. He thought they had
renegotiated that. This agreement says that if they vacate a building they
have to have a new tenant operating full within six months and he thought
they renegotiated that to have a firm contract within six months and in
within one year. That was the only thing he thought was left as a change
and that they had negotiated everything else. The bridge itself he thought
was an obvious need of the project given that they have three right outs
from the project at this time and part of their traffic mitigation which is in r.r1
here as a condition of approval called for the bridge and when he originally
brought up the question of why the bridge was out, he was told that it was
missed and the-other paragraph would cover that. It was agreed and was
presented to commission back in the proposal.
Chairperson Ferguson said his concern was that Mr. Lennon and Mr. Smith had
many meetings with Sandpiper residents. The site plan went through
innumerable revisions with certain concessions being made. Chairperson
Ferguson said he met with Mr. Hoover and several of the association members
and as he understood it, the site plan was a negotiation of what the developer
could live with and what Sandpiper could live with. His assumption was that Mr.
Lennon had essentially $400,000 to bargain with because he was counting on
money coming from the city and negotiated a site plan with all the concessions
in it and the city was pulling away the $400,000. He asked if that was
accurate.
Mr. Lennon said that was close.
Commissioner Beaty asked about the total cost for the bridge.
Mr. Lennon said it hadn't been re-costed, but they were usually looking at
about $60 per square foot. It was a two-lane bridge, a pedestrian right-of-
way, and was designed for golf carts.
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�... Commissioner Beaty asked if it was $800,000.
Mr. Lennon said guessed that it was between $350,000 and $450,000.
Maybe $500,000.
Commissioner Campbell stated that she couldn't understand how we went
through all of these meetings and then all of a sudden now, when it was their
understanding that there would be a bridge there, now all of a sudden the
Redevelopment Agency was asking that the condition be excluded. Mr. Drell
clarified that he was not requesting the deletion of the bridge, they were
requesting that it not be required. Chairperson Ferguson asked if, in the final
analysis, the project as sited needed a bridge. Commissioner Jonathan felt that
the issue between the applicant and the Redevelopment Agency was a financial
one. The precise plan has a bridge and the Planning Commission would be
approving the site with the bridge and if they were not going to build a bridge,
it would have to come back before the commission and they could disapprove
it at that point. Since this was slated to go to the City Council anyway at its
next meeting, he was comfortable with granting the approvals and if necessary,
leave this one condition #18 aside and advise the City Council that the
commission feels this is an issue and was largely a financial one. The
commission was approving the project with the bridge and the council could
decide on the financial aspect. Chairperson Ferguson said that he was very
uncomfortable with that. He didn't feel there was anything taboo about
financing. Having sat through meetings with Sandpiper and having sat through
meetings with the developer and knowing that they were banking on the
assistance from the city to pull the rug out from under them now at the 1 1 th
hour was unconscionable. He was not saying they couldn't take it out. He felt
they should approve what everyone thought was being approved and let council
worry about removing that condition. Commissioner Jonathan said they were
approving a precise plan that has a bridge. Mr. Drell noted that the commission
was recommending approval to council. Therefore, it was ultimately on the
Council's head. Chairperson Ferguson asked if condition #18 would be in there.
Mr. Drell said if the commission chose to have that as a condition, then that
would be their recommendation to council. Chairperson Ferguson stated that the
concern in his mind was that the traffic problems and ingress and egress were
really created when there was an absolute moratorium placed on any access off
of Painters Path. Therefore they had people being compressed into awkward
traffic problems that created congestion and which he felt was an illogical
situation. He wasn't here at the meeting and the commission voted approval.
He thought that the bridge was a release valve for some of that traffic, 40 cars
per hour which he didn't feel was de minimis and he also felt it benefit the
residents to have access from Desert Crossing without having to go out on
Highway 111 . Commissioner Jonathan said he agreed with him completely.
Chairperson Ferguson stated that now, everything was open to renegotiation just
because they continued it for two months. He suggested that they be given
access from Painters Path or give them what they thought they had and had
agreed to all along. Commissioner Jonathan stressed that they would not be
changing the approval. The approval contains the bridge. The inclusion or non-
inclusion of condition #18 was strictly a financial issue. They could replace the
wording on 18 to say "who is going to pay for the bridge". That was what
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condition #18 was addressing. The real issue of whether they have a bridge or
not was nonexistent because the precise plan has a bridge and the commission
was recommending the project with a bridge. He felt it was important that they
do so because he felt that bridge was important. Chairperson Ferguson indicated
they were only approving a precise plan that was drawn up the way it was
drawn up because the understanding was that the city would be requiring a
bridge. That was the only reason that precise plan looks the way it does. In
order for the city to be honest about this, he wanted to approve it the way
everyone thought it was and if the city wants to come back and say they didn't
want to make this a condition, let the city council take it out. Commissioner
Beaty felt the point had been made and was ready for a motion. Mr. Drell said
he wanted to respond to a comment made by Mr. Lennon. He said Mr. Lennon
was correct that in their discussions on the development agreement, page 4,
dealing with the replacement of existing businesses relative to the requirement
that if a qualifying existing business relocates in the property, it was the
obligation of the developer to get a replacement tenant in within six months and
he would be willing to suggest that they add a sentence to the effect that if a
lease has been signed and tenant improvements begun pursuant to that lease,
the city may approve extension to one year if tenant improvements require such
an extension. If they have a lease and have them doing physical construction on
that lease, the city could extend that from six months to 12 months.
Chairperson Ferguson suggested that a one year extension could be granted if
staff deems it reasonably warranted. Mr. Drell concurred. Mr. Lennon said that
was fine.
Chairperson Ferguson said he would like to make a motion including that change
to the development agreement and including condition of approval #18 requiring
the construction of a bridge. Commissioner Campbell stated that she would
second the motion. Commissioner Jonathan asked if Chairperson Ferguson
would consider amending the motion to add to that a notice to City Council that
condition #18 has financial implications that should be considered. Chairperson
Ferguson stated that he didn't want to entertain that amendment only because
he felt it was obvious. He felt Mr. Ortega would bring it up. Commissioner
Jonathan stated that should the council read the minutes, he would be objecting
to the motion and the reason he was doing so was because he felt that condition
of approval number 18 was superfluous in terms of the requirement of a bridge
from the Planning Commission standpoint. He thought that the financial
implications of condition 18 were irrelevant to the commission's function. He
did, however, endorse the precise plan which has the bridge as part of their
requirement. Mr. Drell said that the commission could direct staff in its
presentation before the city council to emphasize that point. He was sure the
point would be made at the meeting. Chairperson Ferguson stated that at least
two council members were with him at meetings with the President of the
Homeowners Association when the bridge was discussed at length and its
relative necessity. Chairperson Ferguson called for a vote.
Action:
Moved by Chairperson Ferguson, seconded by Commissioner Campbell,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Motion carried 4-1 (Commissioner
Jonathan voted no).
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'�• Moved by Chairperson Ferguson, seconded by Commissioner Campbell, adopting
Planning Commission Resolution No. 1826, recommending to City Council
approval of GPA 97-3, C/Z 97-9, PP 97-9, amendment to the development
agreement, and certification of the Negative Declaration of Environmental Impact,
subject to conditions as amended. Motion carried 4-1 (Commissioner Jonathan
voted no).
Mr. Ortega stated that he wanted to point out that condition 18 had been
added since the last time commission considered it. That was why they
were not complaining at the last hearing.
Commissioner Jonathan agreed and said he heard him the first time and heard
that very clearly. The condition was not present on July 15. Chairperson
Ferguson said there weren't any conditions in July. Mr. Drell said that was
exactly it. There were no conditions before the commission then. Mr. Smith
clarified that it wasn't in the record of August 5 either. Commissioner Jonathan
clarified that he used the wrong date. Mr. Drell explained that it was
inadvertently left out. It wasn't in the commission's packet on August 5.
Chairperson Ferguson noted that this was going in the minutes to the City
Council and the Planning Commission did not approve a project without the
requirement for a bridge. The developer was told all along that the bridge was
required and now through inadvertence, and he was not suggesting misfeasance,
it changed the calculus based on his involvement and he thought that the council
deserved to review it in the fullest context possible and thanked Mr. Drell for his
clarification.
B. CONTINUED DISCUSSION OF COMPLIANCE WITH CONDITIONS OF
APPROVAL FOR CASE NO. CUP 91-8 - SOUTHWEST COMMUNITY
CHURCH.
Mr. Drell stated that he had a meeting with Mr. Richards, Mr. Philips (the
administrator), and Mr. Rick Baylor (the youth minister). They went over all of
the alleged transgressions. Staff emphasized to the church that they should at
the very least behave like a responsible residential neighbor and try to anticipate
what activities would be disturbing, not wait until the complaint to occur.
Certain items they agreed to address like the shininess of the roof and had
agreed before to put something on it. Relative to the noise and supervision
issues, Mr. Richards agreed to give them one month of trial to see if their
behavior would improve. The church agreed to place a security guard until 2:00
a.m. on the parking lot to try and better police the activities in the parking lot
even after events were over. Mr. Drell said he suggested that relative to the
volume of the music, they should all sit in Mr. Richards' backyard and adjust the
volume until they arrived at an acceptable level. Staff would report back in
another month to see how well it went. If the complaints continue, a full
investigation would be conducted and they could initiate the hearing process.
Commissioner Campbell asked if Mr. Richards would be keeping a daily diary.
Mr. Drell said that was correct. He also noted that the church expected to break
ground on the new facility on the first of September. They were aiming for July
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and the permit required them to break ground by September. Chairperson
Ferguson asked if their plans were timely submitted. Mr. Drell thought their
plans were all through the County; he thought it was a financial problem.
Chairperson Ferguson asked if Mr. Richards was mollified. Mr. Drell said he
agreed, based on staff's admonishment to the church, to be a little more
sensitive and anticipate what sort of things would be disturbing if they were
living in the residential area and their noisy teenage child had a rock band. There
were certain things you would tell your child to do before the neighbors called.
Chairperson Ferguson asked if they would be hearing back from Mr. Richards.
Mr. Drell said he would hear back within 30 days and would report back to
commission, either with a recommendation to initiate the process.
Commissioner Beaty noted that there was a report in Mr. Richards' dialogue
relating to comments by Mr. Smith and asked for clarification that Mr. Smith was
received with some indignance by members of the church. Mr. Smith said he
didn't know whether they were indignant orXr not, but someone had to be the tla
guy and it was him. Commissioner Beaty said that it was reported by Mr.
Richards that Mr. Smith said that he was received with indignance. Mr. Smith
felt it was a matter of interpretation. The church had located the air conditioners
in some other location and when he reviewed the matter, he observed the
location of the air conditioners were of some concern to the commission and he
had not been party to that discussion previously so he said they would have to
be relocated or the job would be stopped until the public hearing process could
be revisited to relocate them. The construction people didn't really see the
concern. Later on, perhaps the same day, Mr. Wes Oliphant came in and they
chatted and the pads were relocated. They would have preferred not to relocate
them. He wasn't sure what the advantage was or if it was more cost effective
to relocate them, but they had agreed to locate them in a certain area when it
went through the public hearing. Commissioner Beaty thought there was more
to the indignance than that one incident with the air conditioner. Mr. Smith said
that his only other contact with them was Mr. Richards had called relative to the
shininess of the roof. He went out to the site and ran into the administrator out
there and they walked the site and looked at it and agreed that it was quite shiny
and he agreed to take care of it. That was back in June. Commissioner Beaty
thanked Mr. Smith for his clarification.
Chairperson Ferguson stated that the recommended action on this item was
continuance and asked for a motion.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner Beaty, continuing
consideration of CUP 91-8 compliance to September 16, 1997 by minute
motion. Motion carried 5-0.
C. CONSIDERATION OF STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY ABANDONMENT FOR A
VACANT PARCEL OF LAND GENERALLY ABUTTED BY DELLA ROBIA LANE
AND CROSBY LANE WITHIN IRONWOOD COUNTRY CLUB.
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taw Mr. Drell explained that this was a piece of ground that was previously dedicated
to the City as right of way. The City Engineer is saying that it is of no value to
the City any longer and if it was given to the City for nothing, the owners could
get it back for nothing. He said it would have been a cul-de-sac.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Commissioner Campbell,
determining, by minute motion, that the subject right-of-way vacation is in
conformity with the City's General Plan. Motion carried 5-0.
X. COMMITTEE MEETING UPDATES
A. CIVIC CENTER STEERING COMMITTEE - None.
B. DESERT WILLOW COMMITTEE - (August 19, 1997)
Chairperson Ferguson noted that the committee met today and the
committee heard a very creative, far reaching and expansive plans to put in
a train emanating from a tunnel underneath the terminal at Ontario Airport
terminating through a tunnel in Desert Willow and coming up the Union
Pacific tracks. The committee thanked him for his idea and informed him
that the idea of train service from Ontario was a significant concern to not
only Palm Desert, but every other city in that the Riverside County
Transportation Commission would be a good venue for him to look at. Mr.
Farzaneh went to the White House and the Federal Department of
Transportation in Washington. They also reviewed some change work
orders. He said that they approved a bid for the south course and it went
to Park West. Commissioner Beaty had raised some questions about
vendors of Park West who have not been paid in a timely fashion. They
held up their qualifications as a bidder at some point to make sure they got
paid and he was told that everyone was paid. Park West was the prevailing
bidder.
Commissioner Jonathan asked about the issue of prevailing rates and the
effect of being a Charter city. Chairperson Ferguson said there was some
discussion about holding off the bidding on the south course until after the
November election. The problem with it is that our charter would not
change the law that governs the Redevelopment Agency. They were still
required under public health and safety code to use prevailing wage. Mr.
Drell said we are also contractually obligated to Intrawest to produce a
course in a certain time frame and we could incur significant penalties.
Chairperson Ferguson said that even if we waited it wouldn't save us any
money. The City would save money on its public works contracts that
don't involve federal money because of the Davis Bacon Act. He informed
commission that the cost for the golf course was $9,030,840.48. The
committee asked them to prepare two documents stating why they need
another course, basically going through the development agreement with
Intrawest and outlining the financial benefits to the City of the Intrawest
agreements so that people would understand why the course is being built
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and they would also address the charter city issue and why they shouldn't ..
wait for the vote. He said they decided to landscape the northern portion
of the project, the southern curb of Frank Sinatra, hold off on the median
landscape at this point until they put development on the north side of the
road and they got a conceptual design for a 30,000 square foot clubhouse
which will be the subject of some discussion. The 40 page proposal
included banquet rooms, dining, restaurant facilities, etc. He felt it was a
good sized clubhouse. Commissioner Jonathan asked who would own and
operate the clubhouse. Chairperson Ferguson said the city would own it
and Kemper would operate it. The cost would be over $5 million.
C. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE - None.
D. PROJECT AREA 4 COMMITTEE - None.
E. PALM DESERT/RANCHO MIRAGE MONTEREY AVENUE CORRIDOR
PLANNING WORK GROUP - None.
F. ZONING ORDINANCE REVIEW COMMITTEE - None.
Chairperson Ferguson stated that one item that came up at Desert Willow
today on zoning ordinance review and that had to do with hotel room sizes.
Mr. Drell said that it was something they could discuss at their next
meeting. They got a presentation that was kind of a sneak preview of the {
proposed Courtyard/Residence Inn project. While the Residence Inn units
would be substantially larger than the City's requirement which is 375 •�
square feet per room and would be 400, 500 and 600 square feet. The
Courtyard side of the project was predominately between 300 and 350
square feet. It would require an amendment to our code for hotels, either
raising it or allowing them to average the room sizes. The average would
probably be substantially larger than the 375. That would be something
that had to go through the process. It would go to Zoning Ordinance
Review Committee for a recommendation on that issue.
Xl. COMMENTS
Mr. Drell introduced Ms. Ruth Ann Moore, the City's new Business Support
Manager. He noted that the city separated the code enforcement function from
the business license function. Code was now under the Building Department.
The emphasis of the Business Support Center was going to be assisting business
and using the contact which we normally have through business license and her
job will be to promote retail, tourism and economy and assist people as a liaison
and going out and recruiting businesses. The commission welcomed Ms. Moore.
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r.. XII. ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Commissioner Beaty, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez,
adjourning the meeting by minute motion. Motion carried 5-0. The meeting was
adjourned at 9:22 p.m.
PHILIP DRELL, Secretary
A TES
IA ES ER USON, Chairperson
Pa m Desert PI ng Commission
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John R. Bayardo
44-500 San Pascual St.
Palm Desert, CA 92260
August 13, 1997
Mayor of the City of Palm Desert
City Counsel of the City of Palm Desert
73-510 Fred Waring Road
Palm Desert, CA 92260
RE: Prospective Zone change
(southeast corner of De Anza and San Pascual)
Dear Mayor Kelley and City Counsel Members:
I would like to voice my concern regarding a proposal to change the
zoning ordinance on the vacant lot located on the southeast corner of
De Anza and San Pascual in Palm Desert. I have been a resident of
Palm Desert since 1989 and I believe that the change will lower
property value in the area and possibly bring a tainted element
should the development go to low-income housing. The area was
established as a single family residential area (which is why I
purchased and developed land here). It was never intended to house
duplexes or other types of multi-family structures. I am against any
change in the zoning ordinance.
Ver,, truly yours,
JOHN R. BAYARDO
receive any notice of the impending BUILDING HORIZON PLAN. This plan
calls for the division of one single lot at the corner of DeAnza at San
Pasqual, into two parcels with Low Income Houses. These home owners
refused one other simular plan afew years ago.
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This petition has been signed by Concerned Home Owneraq that did not
receive any notice of the impending BUILDING HORIZON PLAN. This plan
calls for the division of one single lot at the corner of DeAnza at San
Pasqual, into two parcels with Low Income Houass . These home owners
refused one other simular plan &few years ago.
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