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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING
TUESDAY - NOVEMBER 18, 1997
7:00 P.M. - CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Ferguson called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Fernandez led in the pledge of allegiance.
III. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Jim Ferguson, Chairperson
Sonia Campbell
George Fernandez
Members Absent: Paul Beaty
Sabby Jonathan
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Consideration of the November 4, 1997 meeting minutes.
Action:
Moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez,
approving the November 4, 1997 meeting minutes. Motion carried 3-0.
V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION:
Mr. Drell summarized pertinent November 13, 1997 City Council actions.
VI. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None.
VII. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. CASE NOS. PMW 97-24 AND PMW 97-25 - CENTURY CROWELL
COMMUNITIES, Applicant
Request for approval of two parcel map waivers within TT 24254
(Sonata II) to allow for a series of lot line adjustments.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner
Fernandez, approving the Consent Calendar by minute motion. Motion
carried 3-0.
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Vlll. PUBLIC HEARINGS
Anyone who challenges any hearing matter in court may be limited to raising only
those issues he/she or someone else raised at the public hearing described
herein, or in written correspondence delivered to the Planning Commission at, or
prior to, the public hearing.
A. Case No. DP 03-81 Amendment #1 - U.S. FILTER CORPORATION AND
MIKE HOMME, Applicants
Request for approval of an amendment to the existing development
plan to permit minor additions at each end of the existing office
building located at the southeast corner of Cook Street and Country
Club Drive.
Mr. Smith indicated that the request was for approval of a 4546 square foot
addition (2273 square feet at each end of the existing office complex occupied
by U.S. Filter Corporation). They had designed it to be single story. They
pushed it closer to the street to the point where it would be in line with the
existing wing walls and the shed roof which covers the existing structure. That
aspect of the application required the modification of the approved development
plan. While they would be deleting eight parking spaces on the site, Mr. Smith
explained that they continued to have 70 spaces so the parking was consistent
with the ordinance. Staff felt that of the options available to the applicant with Void
the building designed facing the intersection in a diagonal fashion. There was an
existing average setback of 56 feet. With the addition the average setback
would be lowered to about 52 feet, so there would still be considerable setbacks.
Other options would be to allow two story development (which staff didn't think
would be a good idea) or they could put the unit further into the parking lot and
they would end up with more parking spaces being deleted. Staff felt this was
probably the best way to proceed. He indicated that the findings could be met
as outlined in the draft resolution and the proposal was a Class 1 Categorical
Exemption for CEOA purposes. Staff recommended approval and asked for
questions.
Chairperson Ferguson asked if the 32-foot setback was there because of the
development plan or because of an ordinance requirement. Mr. Smith replied
both. Chairperson Ferguson asked if the requirement of the ordinance was 32
feet. Mr. Smith explained that both Cook Street and Country Club Drive are
arterial streets. The ordinance prescribes 32 feet. With the building and
development plan as it exists, the main structure itself was at 32 feet. The shed
roof and wing walls come to within 20 feet. Chairperson Ferguson noted that
the commission was not being asked to approve a variance or exception and
asked how that process worked. Mr. Smith informed commission that
development plans were, at some point in the early 1980's, replaced by precise
plan applications. In this instance, the amendment to the development plan
would accomplish the variance. Mr. Drell indicated it was an exception.
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Chairperson Ferguson clarified that the commission was not being requested to
make findings to support a variance, but to support findings for an exception.
Mr. Drell concurred. Chairperson Ferguson asked what the standard was upon
which the commission was supposed to find an exception. Mr. Drell said it was
the best solution that did no harm. Chairperson Ferguson asked the City
Attorney if this was the legally proper way to do this. Mr. Hargreaves said he
hadn't reviewed that particular issue and he hoped that staff thoroughly reviewed
that particular aspect of it. Mr. Drell stated that this zone allows the
modification of standards with the approval of an amendment to the
development plan or precise plan. Chairperson Ferguson asked if there were any
other questions for staff. There were none.
Chairperson Ferguson opened the public hearing and asked the applicant to speak
first and then anyone wishing to address this application.
MR. MIKE HOMME, 46-300 Desert Lily, stated that he was present to
answer any questions.
Chairperson Ferguson asked if anyone wished to address the commission in
FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposal. There was no one and the public
hearing was closed.
Commissioner Campbell stated that she passes by there every week and as long
as the building was one story, she didn't think anyone would notice the addition
once construction was complete. She was in favor of the additions and would
move for approval.
Commissioner Fernandez said that he was also in favor of the project.
Chairperson Ferguson agreed and said he saw no harm associated with this
request. His only concern was trying to find a showing of extraordinary
hardship, but if they didn't have to, then he thought it was great and was a good
solution.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Motion carried 3-0.
It was moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1838, approving DP 03-81
Amendment #1 , subject to conditions. Motion carried 3-0.
B. Case No. ZOA 97-4 - CITY OF PALM DESERT, Applicant
Request for approval of an amendment to Chapter 25.16 of the
Municipal Code, Development standards of the R-1 zone.
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Mr. Smith noted that the other night when he presented the Home Based
Business Ordinance to the council, they suggested that he not go through the
details. He asked if the commission wished him to go into detail or if he should
just respond to questions.
Chairperson Ferguson asked if the commission had any questions from their
review of the staff report. Commissioners Campbell and Fernandez both
indicated they didn't have any questions.
Chairperson Ferguson opened the public hearing and asked if anyone wished to
speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the item. There was no one and the public
hearing was closed.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Motion carried 3-0.
It was moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1839, recommending to City
Council approval of ZOA 97-4. Motion carried 3-0.
IX. MISCELLANEOUS
A. REQUEST FOR A DETERMINATION OF USE TO ALLOW AN ART GALLERY
IN THE PC-4 ZONE.
Mr. Drell distributed a map of the area in question and explained that this was
a request for determination of use/ordinance clarification question relative to a
potential application in the PC-4 zone on property on Highway 74 south of the
El Paseo Collection. He said the general area extended from the end of the El
Paseo Collection parking lot up through the property where La Paon Restaurant
is located. The area is zoned PC-4 and is the Resort Commercial zone which is
a zone designed for properties to be developed as one master plan. It was zoned
that way when the property was under single ownership. Subsequently, that
property had financial difficulty and the property is owned by two or three
ownerships. The property where the question is occurring is owned by Churchill
Management or Fred Fern and Company. At least four lots to the south are
owned by D. Hubbard and he was unclear as to who owns the La Paon site. He
stated that the PC-4 zone requires as a primary use on a project site to be a
restaurant or hotel. There were two ways to look at it. One individual lot (eight
remaining undeveloped) or as one project/one site. There is a restaurant on the
site, La Paon Restaurant. Once a hotel or restaurant is part of the project, then
there is a whole list of associated resort tourist retail uses of which art galleries
is one which can be developed in association with a hotel or restaurant. He
thought it was probably unreasonable to expect every single parcel to have a
hotel or restaurant on it. The interpretation he was making was that the
existence of a restaurant on what was originally the project site qualifies for the
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w..► associated uses to apply for a conditional use in the zone. The determination at
this point was if they are eligible to apply for a conditional use, not that they
were being approved. He recommended that they be eligible to apply.
Commissioner Campbell asked if La Paon owned their own lot or if someone else
owned it. Mr. Drell thought they bought the lot, but he couldn't tell for sure
from the map. He noted that they were the furthest south in this group of
parcels. Commissioner Campbell asked if these parcels would be the first two.
Mr. Drell said they would be the first two parcels adjacent to the El Paseo
Collection parking lot. Chairperson Ferguson asked if this would fill the space
between the restaurant and the parking lot. Mr. Drell replied no. He indicated
that there would be four parcels in between. The restaurant was on parcel 12
at 45-640 Highway 74. Chairperson Ferguson asked if the four parcels to the
south of that parcel were vacant. Mr. Drell concurred. Chairperson Ferguson
noted that there were eight appurtenant parcels and then the two subject
parcels. He asked, under Mr. Drell's interpretation, how many associated uses
could go on these parcels anchored just by the restaurant, all eight? Mr. Drell
indicated that this was an odd zone and was never very successful at doing what
it was supposed to do. People build hotels or restaurants if they decided they
liked a site and if it made financial sense. They have basically abandoned this
zone almost everywhere else. An option would be to rezone this C-1 , but in this
particular case since it was still a different sort of property than one would
expect, he was not recommending that it be rezoned C-1 . He felt that a lot more
control was retained over respective uses with the PC-4 zone, where virtually all
�,.. the uses would be conditional uses, other than hotels and restaurants. The
option was to say no, that it should be master planned and the property owners
should get together, but he didn't feel it was likely. He felt they should consider
this use, which is a logical progression up from El Paseo. Commissioner
Campbell noted that now there are only two land owners. Mr. Drell concurred.
Chairperson Ferguson agreed that he didn't want to see the zone changed to C-
1 , but legally if they took the farthest parcel away from the restaurant and said
it was closely associated enough, someone coming in on one of the four parcels
in between would have a pretty good argument that the city was being selective.
Mr. Drell concurred. If for some reason the city wanted to hold this whole
property out waiting for a hotel that was an option.
Chairperson Ferguson asked if the commission could approve this parcel and
refer the matter immediately to the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance Review
Committee to determine what should be done with these parcels. Mr. Drell said
that could be done and at least they could initiate the discussion. There were
really just two choices and on all the other parcels they actually went through
the same sort of thing. The Desert Crossing site was also zoned PC-4, the Toys
R Us site was zoned PC-4. Chairperson Ferguson asked if the city did zone
changes on those sites. Mr. Drell replied yes. He also thought that the Mervyn's
site was also zoned PC-4. They changed the zones and on Highway 1 1 1 it made
sense and they didn't think that any more big hotels would locate on Highway
111 . The ultimate question came down to whether or not the commission
wanted an art gallery in this location. If they felt an art gallery was an
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appropriate use to consider, then they could allow them to apply. If the
commission felt that the integrity of the whole area should somehow be
protected, then they wouldn't allow them to apply. Chairperson Ferguson stated
that he would like to let the art gallery go ahead and apply for a conditional use
permit. He just felt it was intellectually dishonest to have a zone for a hotel and
he would not be in favor of a hotel there. Mr. Drell explained that a hotel or
restaurant was of equal value.
Commissioner Campbell asked about the existing parking lot and Club 74, since
that was a restaurant, and if there were two lots there. Mr. Drell said that
technically the Club 74 restaurant was in the C-1 zone. Club 74 and Daily Grill
both. They had never been zoned PC-4. Commissioner Campbell asked if Mr.
Drell would consider the two lots there. Mr. Drell agreed that there were
restaurants all around it, but that was why it was before the commission.
Chairperson Ferguson asked if Mr. Drell's interpretation could be limited to say
that for each hotel appurtenant to the PC-4 zone, one associated use would be
supported. That would allow one other person to come in eventually. Mr. Drell
concurred. Chairperson Ferguson also requested that CZORC be asked to sit
down with property owners to see what they want to do. Mr. Drell informed
commission that one of the CZORC members was in the process of trying to put
together a hotel deal on the remaining property. Chairperson Ferguson thought
that seemed like a noisy location for a hotel, but that wasn't before them, the art
gallery was, and he was in favor of letting them apply for a conditional use
permit. Commissioner Campbell and Commissioner Fernandez were also in favor.
Mr. Drell asked if the commission would like to hear from the applicants.
Commission concurred.
DAVID AND LISA AUSTIN, the owners of Imago Galleries on El Paseo,
addressed the commission and said they have been in Palm Desert for seven
years. Mr. Austin said they were talking about opening a 12,000-18,000
square foot gallery with a sculpture garden. They currently host fund
raisers for the Palm Springs Desert Museum often in the gallery and this
would enable them to do something on a much larger scale with regards to
charitable events. The architecture would be consistent with El Paseo and
they felt it would be a landmark and an asset. If there was a hotel next
door, it would be a great asset. He said that Fred Fern was very pleased
with the idea of them working next door to his restaurants and retail
businesses.
Commissioner Campbell said that if they were happy to be in that location that
was great and if they didn't need the foot traffic.
Mrs. Austin felt that it was high end enough that a step off of El Paseo was
fine and they needed more space. They were in just under 4,000 square
feet of space now. They had another 3,000 across the street and another
1 ,500 feet of warehouse space. She said they would like to combine all of
that. Mr. Austin stated that in the level of gallery that they are, they were
more of a service business than retail business. They do attract the retail
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public and would build something that would make people want to stop.
Mrs. Austin said they get a lot of walk-in traffic, which was nice, but they
also do a lot of things for the community like the McCallum Theater. They
have a lot of calls for people doing events. They could only do a sit down
dinner for 40-50 people at this point.
Commissioner Campbell said she would be sorry to see them leave El Paseo, but
she felt that they would still be an asset to El Paseo because it was just a walk
away.
Mrs. Austin didn't feel that they were leaving El Paseo. They were
expanding and growing. Mr. Austin said that they were planning to be there
for 20 years or they wouldn't be building a building. El Paseo would be
growing somewhat and there wouldn't just be frontage on the street, so
they would start it.
Commissioner Campbell said she was in favor of it. Chairperson Ferguson said
he looked forward to their application.
Action:
• It was moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez,
determining by minute motion that an art gallery use would be eligible to apply
for a conditional use permit in the PC-4 zone and referring the matter to the
Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance Review Committee. Motion carried 3-0.
Commissioner Campbell asked the Austins how soon they would be applying.
They responded that their first step would be to hire an architect.
X. COMMITTEE MEETING UPDATES
A. CIVIC CENTER STEERING COMMITTEE - (No meeting)
B. DESERT WILLOW COMMITTEE - (November 18, 1997)
Chairperson Ferguson indicated that the committee reviewed the time line
for the south golf course. They were getting ready to go out to bid for the
clubhouse. They heard that there is a party interested in putting an 800-
room hotel that would occupy both the main hotel site and the ancillary 300
room hotel site, which sounded almost too good to be true, but at least
they were interested and they would see what happened. He .said that
would finish the main section of development in Desert Willow. There was
still the parcel at the southeast corner that was vacant and the frontage
parcel on Country Club. That would put them at about 1400 rooms, which
was almost capacity for the two golf courses. Chairperson Ferguson asked
if it was more than capacity. Mr. Drell said it was when the time share was
added in. Chairperson Ferguson asked if the Marriott had overflow, and
they had two courses and 940 rooms. Mr. Drell concurred and indicated
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they also had the 600 timeshare units. Chairperson Ferguson said that ..r
would pretty much put them at capacity. Mr. Drell said that the build out
of timeshare was about 15 years. Commissioner Campbell asked if that
included the Marriott Courtyard also. Chairperson Ferguson said no, they
were fenced off and while they could play our course, they would have to
get into their cars to get there. Mr. Drell noted they weren't getting any
special access to the course. He said that if people were waiting in line to
play the golf course and the hotel was full that would be great. Chairperson
Ferguson said he would wait until they submitted something to discuss the
financial aspects of the deal, but it was being said that it would insure the
financial solvency of Palm Desert for probably the next 30-50 years.
C. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE - (No meeting)
D. PROJECT AREA 4 COMMITTEE - (No meeting)
E. PALM DESERT/RANCHO MIRAGE MONTEREY AVENUE CORRIDOR
PLANNING WORK GROUP - (No meeting)
F. ZONING ORDINANCE REVIEW COMMITTEE - (No meeting)
XI. COMMENTS
1 . Commissioner Fernandez asked what was happening on Hovley Lane near
El Dorado across from Indian Ridge because the fence was down in Indian v�
Wells. Mr. Drell said he wasn't sure but at one time Palm Desert was
working with Indian Wells to widen Hovley Lane on Bill Bone's land. He
said he would find out.
2. Commissioner Campbell congratulated Chairperson Ferguson on being
elected to the City Council. Chairperson Ferguson said it has been a
pleasure working with everyone and he would like the commission's input
on a replacement since they have to go through that process.
Commissioner Fernandez also congratulated Chairperson Ferguson.
XII. ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez,
adjourning the meeting to December 2, 1997. Motion carri d 3-0. The meeting
was adjourned at 7:30 p.m.
PHILIP DRELL, S cretary
ATTEST:
ONIA M. CAMPBELL, Acting Chairperson
City of Palm Desert, California
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