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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING
TUESDAY - DECEMBER 2, 1997
7:00 P.M. - CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE
I. CALL TO ORDER
Acting Chairperson Campbell called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Jonathan led in the pledge of allegiance.
III. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Sonia Campbell, Acting Chairperson
Paul Beaty
George Fernandez
Sabby Jonathan
One Vacancy
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Phil Drell Martin Alvarez
Bob Hargreaves Tonya Monroe
Steve Smith
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Consideration of the November 18, 1997 meeting minutes.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Fernandez, seconded by Acting Chairperson
Campbell, approving the November 18, 1997 minutes as submitted. Carried 2-0-2
(Commissioners Beaty and Jonathan abstained).
V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION:
None.
VI. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None.
VII. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. CASE NO. PMW 97-29 - ANTHONY C. CORONA, Applicant
Request for approval of a parcel map waiver to allow a lot line
adjustment between Lot 6 of Tract 4018 and Lot 116 of Tract 6685-1
within Avondale Country Club.
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B. CASE NO. PMW 97-30 - DR. SURESH SHAH, Applicant
Request for approval of a parcel map waiver to allow a lot line
adjustment to combine three parcels into one at the southwest corner
of Fred Waring Drive and San Pascual.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Beaty, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez,
approving the Consent Calendar by minute motion. Motion carried 4-0.
Vill. PUBLIC HEARINGS
Anyone who challenges any hearing matter in court may be limited to raising only
those issues he/she or someone else raised at the public hearing described herein,
or in written correspondence delivered to the Planning Commission at, or prior to,
the public hearing.
A. Case No. CUP 09-78 Amendment No. 2B - THE STANLEY B. ROSE
COMPANY AND RESTAURANTS UNLIMITED, INC., Applicants
Request for approval of an amendment to a Conditional Use Permit to
allow enclosure of a 538 square foot patio at 73-101 Highway 1 1 1 .
Mr. Drell noted that the applicant is now known as RUI One Corp. Mr. Smith ••�
stated that the restaurant in question is Palomino and they have an existing patio
area to the left of their entrance that was approved as part of an amendment in
1993. They were seeking approval to enclose that patio area at some point in the
future. The area is 538 square feet and an area this size created a parking demand
of eight spaces. Palomino was participating in the creation of the new parking lot
adjacent to Highway 74 behind the Shell gas station. The applicant indicated they
would be participating to a level of ten spaces. They needed eight and as a result
of their participation there would be adequate parking to allow the future
enclosure. Staff recommended approval subject to conditions. He noted that the
commission received a letter from the applicant's attorney, Mr. DeLateur. Staff
concurred with Mr. DeLateur's request and suggested that at the end of condition
number three that the sentence be added: Should the applicant participate in the
construction of the public parking lot in excess of eight parking spaces, the excess
space(s) shall be available to any future conditional use permit amendment
application of The Stanley B. Rose Company or RUI One Corp.
Acting Chairperson Campbell opened the public hearing and asked the applicant to
address the commission.
MR. STEVEN DELATEUR, the attorney for the applicants, stated that staff
gave a good report and he was present to answer any questions. He just
wanted to make sure that the commission understood the amendment to the
condition since the enclosure might not be done right away and there was a
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�. sentence in one of the conditions of approval that said the condition to go
forward would be satisfied by his client's participation in this parking lot so
they didn't have to come back every year to get the conditional use permit
renewed. That was the primary concern. He understood that has been taken
care of in the conditions.
Commissioner Jonathan asked if Mr. DeLateur was satisfied that the concern as
stated in his letter of November 25 had been adequately addressed in the
conditions as presented.
Mr. DeLateur said it was satisfactory with the amendment as stated orally by
staff. They wanted to make sure that if they want to enclose another patio,
perhaps outside where the bar area is, that those two spaces could be used
for that project as well.
Acting Chairperson Campbell asked if anyone wished to address the commission
in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposal. There was no one and the public
hearing was closed. Acting Chairperson Campbell asked for commission
comments.
Commissioner Beaty stated that he was perfectly satisfied and that it was nice to
see the parking requirement satisfied and planned for the future and he would
move for approval.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Beaty, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Motion carried 4-0.
It was moved by Commissioner Beaty, seconded by Commissioner Fernandez,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1840, approving CUP 09-78
Amendment No. 29, subject to conditions as amended. Motion carried 4-0.
B. Case No. DA 97-3 - PACIFIC ASSISTED LIVING, INC., Applicant
Request for approval of a Development Agreement for a one story 20-
unit senior assisted living complex on property located in the R-2 Senior
Overlay zone at the southeast corner of San Carlos Avenue and Catalina
Way.
Mr. Smith noted that commission dealt with this property at San Carlos and
Catalina about a year ago with Precise Plan 96-1 1 and it was approved. A couple
of weeks later the commission considered Development Agreement 97-1 for this
property. It went through the full process naming the applicant and owner as
General Construction Management Corp. In actual fact midway through the city
processing the property changed ownership to Pacific Assisted Living, Inc.,and the
City Attorney advised staff that in order to execute the development agreement
it had to reflect the current ownership. Hence, the development agreement was
before the commission with the only change being the name of the property
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owner. Everything else remained identical. He said this did not effect or impact
or change the precise plan itself, only the development agreement. Staff
recommended approval of this new development agreement.
Commissioner Jonathan asked if the development agreement as proposed was
simply a substitution of names and it was identical in every other respect, including
the three possible ways to satisfy the lower/moderate unit requirements. Mr.
Smith concurred.
Acting Chairperson Campbell oogened the public hearing and asked the applicant to
address the commission.
MR. GARY COVEL, General Construction Management, stated that he was
responsible for this glitch in the process and he wasn't sure how he was
responsible for it but he was. He represents Pacific Assisted Living and
somehow their names got on it as owners instead of as representatives. He
said he was present to answer any questions. Everything remained exactly
the same.
Acting Chairperson Campbell asked if anyone wished to address the commission
in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposal. There was no one and the public
hearing was closed. Acting Chairperson Campbell asked for commission
comments or action.
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Commissioner Jonathan stated that it looked good and moved for approval.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Commissioner Beaty,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Motion carried 4-0.
It was moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Commissioner Beaty,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1841 , recommending to City Council
approval of DA 97-3. Motion carried 4-0.
C. Case No. RV 97-2 - MR. AND MRS. THOMAS BORISKI, Applicants
Request for approval of a permit to allow the parking and storage of a
10-foot high by 23 foot long camper trailer in the side yard of the
property located at 44-251 San Jose Avenue.
Mr. Alvarez noted that the current configuration of the property was on display and
indicated that the property is located at the end of San Jose Avenue, which is a
cul-de-sac street just west of Portola. He explained that the applicant was
requesting approval to park a RV in front/side yard of their property since the siting
of their residence prevents the applicants from placing the RV in the rear yard. The
ordinance allowed the RV to be placed in the front yard when it was not possible
to park it in the rear and if it is screened adequately from the adjacent neighbors
and the public streets. The ordinance states that adequate screening is six foot
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high solid wall, fence or landscaping in accordance with city code. This matter
was before ARC on November 25 and the minutes were before the commission.
At that meeting the applicants proposed to screen the RV with two six foot high
eight foot long removable solid wood panels which would screen the front and
connect back into the carport. He stated that Exhibit B showed that and the
panels. The panels would be mounted on three and a half inch solid metal posts
and would be placed in front of the RV to be easily removable when it needed to
be moved. Exhibit B also showed where those panels were proposed to be placed.
ARC felt the wood panels were unacceptable to screen the RV and were not in
accordance with city codes. Wood fencing is prohibited as an approved material
in the front yard and the commission suggested parking the RV diagonally in the
side yard as noted on Exhibit B and screening the cul-de-sac street with
landscaping. At that point the applicant felt that solution was not feasible and the
matter was continued to a later date until the applicant could propose something
that was acceptable. Staff noticed property owners within 300 feet and received
two letters of opposition. One letter with no comment and basically no problem.
Those letters came from property owners directly to the north and one to the
west. At this point staff recommended that Planning Commission approve the
Architectural Review Commission's suggestion to allow the applicant to park the
recreational vehicle in the side yard diagonally and go back to ARC and have the
landscaping approved by the commission. He demonstrated the diagonal parking
and landscape area (see Exhibit A attached hereto).
Commissioner Jonathan asked for clarification that the Architectural Review
Commission looked at the proposed solution that Mr. Alvarez was presenting to
Planning Commission and rejected it. Mr. Alvarez said no, ARC reviewed the
proposal by the applicant for six foot high wood panels in front of the RV and on
the sides. Commissioner Jonathan asked what the difference was between the
two proposals. Mr. Alvarez clarified that the ARC's recommendation was to place
the RV diagonally. Mr. Drell said they would be putting the RV in the corner, Lien
landscaping it. Witti the applicant's request they couldn't landscape in front of the
RV because that was how the applicant would get the RV out of that spot. In this
case, by pushing it into the corner they could landscape in front of it and still have
access to the driveway. The principal screening would ultimately be a hedge or
plant material. Commissioner Jonathan said that the staff report indicated that
ARC found the proposed six foot high wood panel to be unacceptable and asked
how a six-foot wood panel differed from what staff was presenting to the
commission. Mr. Drell clarified that the picture with the wood panels was the
applicant's proposal. That was what ARC rejected. The diagonal proposal was
one of the ARC commissioner's suggestions as to a solution to allow landscaping
to screen the RV and still allow it to be accessible to the driveway. The applicant
felt it was not acceptable, so ARC said if that was not acceptable, the applicant
should come up with another solution and it was continued. Commissioner Beaty
asked if the screening would be a hedge or a six-foot block wall at the front and
that was what staff was recommending. Mr. Drell concurred. Commissioner
Jonathan noted that ARC continued the matter and asked why the commission
was getting it before a decision was made. Mr. Alvarez indicated that the matter
had already been noticed for hearing. Commissioner Jonathan asked if ARC
wanted to see it back to work on it. Mr. Drell said that staff was recommending
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that it go back to ARC in either case. If Planning Commission wanted to continue
it pending ARC final resolution that was something they could do as well.
Commissioner Jonathan said that if the commission didn't say just let ARC deal
with it, he was suggesting that Planning Commission resolve it at Planning
Commission level with a recommendation ARC. Mr. Drell said that the Planning
Commission recommendation was to say yes, the diagonal solution in concept is
acceptable and leave it up to ARC to work out the final details. If Planning
Commission wanted to see it back, they could, or they could just let ARC work out
the final design.
Acting Chairperson Campbell opened the public hearing and asked the applicant to
address the commission.
MRS. MARGARET BORISKI, the applicant, stated that the location on the side
of the carport where their trailer presently exists was on a concrete pad with
a little block wall/retaining wall around it. Where ARC and staff want them
to put it is all landscaped with grass and has sprinklers. They would be
digging out a lot of dirt and she felt the diagonal concept that the
Architectural Review Committee came up with exposed more of the trailer to
the street than being on the side of the carport. They would have to put in
another pad, if they could just install gravel, and then pay for the re-sprinkling
system. They would have to redo the sprinklers and haul out the dirt and put
in hedges or something in front, but they felt that more of the trailer would
show by being out in the front yard than on the side of the carport. She i
asked for any questions.
Commissioner Jonathan noted that Ms. Boriski was not enamored with staff's
solution.
Ms. Boriski said that they would do that if the Planning Commission told them
to and if that was what they had to do, but as it is, the front side of the
trailer shows and now the whole side and front, when driving down the street
or turning into the cul-de-sac except for where there would be a hedge, so it
didn't make that much sense to them. She felt they were hiding more of the
trailer than by putting it out in front.
Commissioner Jonathan said that Ms. Boriski preferred the trailer on the side with
the two panels.
Ms. Boriski concurred and said that if the commission wanted something on
top of the six foot high panels, they would be happy to add some type of
lattice work or something on top of the panels to get as high was ten feet.
Commissioner Jonathan noted that part of the problem was that wood fencing in
a front yard was in violation of the city codes.
Ms. Boriski said that they thought that section was part of the side and didn't
realize that and they have wood on the other side of the house. Behind the
trailer was all wood so it was compatible with the existing wood fencing
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around their house now. They were trying to be compatible with the existing
material.
Mr. Drell added that the Architectural Commission could make an exception and
if after all is said and done they keep coming back to the same solution, then there
is a method to make an exception to allow wood fencing of some design if that
turns out to be the best solution.
Acting Chairperson Campbell said that if it was parked diagonally and there were
oleanders in front, they would grow higher than six feet and if they got as high as
ten or 12 feet, they would hide the trailer completely. Mr. Drell concurred.
Ms. Boriski said they would be agreeable to planting oleanders if it were out
in front instead of the side of the carport.
Mr. Drell said that to a certain extent as they look at Exhibit B, planting oleanders
in front in any case might to a certain degree at certain angles might also screen
the RV where it is sitting.
Ms. Boriski thanked the Planning Department for all their help.
Acting Chairperson Campbell noted that Ms. Boriski stated that she has had this
vehicle for one year and asked if that was correct.
Ms. Boriski said this RV was purchased in April of this year. It was a brand
new trailer.
Acting Chairperson Campbell also noted that Ms. Boriski had another one for 15
years.
Ms. Boriski clarified that she has owned the house for 15 years and they had
a 27-year old trailer that they had for a couple of years. They had it parked
in that spot.
Acting Chairperson Campbell said they had it parked in that spot for all those years
and only now there was a problem.
Ms. Boriski said they were trying to comply with the ordinance and they
called the city to find out about the ordinance and that was why they did the
concrete pad and the fencing around it and they bought the wood to place in
front of it, but they hadn't gotten around to the permit.
Acting Chairperson Campbell asked for clarification that the pad was built prior to
application.
Ms. Boriski said it was a few years old.
Acting Chairperson Campbell noted they did that without requesting a permit and
in all of these years there had never been any complaints from the neighbors.
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Ms. Boriski said they had asked all of their neighbors prior to bringing it down
if there was any concern and everyone was supportive prior to them putting
it there.
Acting Chairperson Campbell asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION.
MRS. EMMA HULL addressed the commission and informed them that she
lives across the street from the applicants and she had no objection to the
trailer whatsoever. It was a nice, neat appearing one and it was perfectly all
right with her. She has lived there for 30 or so years and it was a middle
class neighborhood that they live in. It was allowable to her and she was in
favor.
MS. JEAN MARTIN, 44-276 San Jose Avenue, stated that she lives cater
corner from the Boriskis. She had not been informed prior to the first trailer
coming into the neighborhood and she thought that on the first day it did
arrive she approached Maggie and Tom about being good neighbors and doing
something to mask the trailer. It was a smaller trailer than the existing one
there now. She has spoken to them on five occasions about doing something
to shield it. Ms. Martin stated that she has lived in that house for 36 years
and she was concerned about property values in the area. She noted that the
north side of Highway 1 1 1 has an abundance of illegal trailers and three on
San Jose alone. There weren't any on the south side of Highway 111 . She
said that she would like to work with them in some way, but there were
many trailer storage facilities in this area and it wasn't terribly expensive and
to her the best scenario would be to have the trailer moved and put into a
storage area and then there wouldn't be any problems for any of them, the
Boriskis included. Her concern with the first plan they had was that the city
ordinance stated that the trailer couldn't extend past the roof line. This was
quite a few feet beyond the roof line of the carport. The original plan by the
Boriskis was for a six-foot wall and that meant there were four feet of trailer
still exposed, a bright white trailer which to her was like "here I am" and it
really made it stand out more. The diagonal position was perhaps the best
solution as long as whatever is fencing it is higher than the trailer and that it
isn't exposed at all. As long as it couldn't be seen from the street. She said
she would really like to work with them on this, but that seemed to be
impossible and she knew they were upset with her objection to their trailer,
but she has lived there too long and has put too much money into this
residence to have this get started.
Acting Chairperson Campbell closed the public hearing and asked for commission
comments.
Commissioner Beaty felt that this was unfortunate. He indicated that the people
most effected would be the people across the street. He noted that one letter said
it blocked the view from their kitchen. He liked the solution of moving the RV to
a storage unit, but he would defer to sending it back to ARC for another solution
or acceptance of the proposal.
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tow Commissioner Jonathan concurred with Commissioner Beaty. He had sympathy
for both the applicant and the neighbors, but in its present form he would have to
side with the neighbors. Unfortunately for the applicant, the ordinance was there
specifically to guard against what is happening here and that was unfortunate
because he felt the applicant was well intentioned. There is an ordinance and a lot
of thought and years that went into the development of the ordinance and it was
there for a reason and that reason was to guard against what is happening here.
On the other hand he felt that the neighbors were willing to be reasonable so he
felt that to send it back to ARC and give it one more try to come up with some
kind of resolution that would be acceptable to everyone. There were residents that
have lived there 30 and 36 years and he had faith in the citizens and given more
opportunity with ARC they could find an amenable solution. He thought it was
Ron Gregory's comment in the ARC minutes where he said there was a solution
for this somewhere. He would be in favor of giving ARC, the applicants and the
applicant's neighbors one more opportunity to work it out.
Commissioner Fernandez also concurred. He would like to see this go back to ARC
and let them make a decision. As neighbors he felt that an acceptable solution
could be worked out.
Acting Chairperson Campbell also concurred and asked if the Planning Commission
wanted the item to return to the commission or if they just wanted to leave it up
to ARC. Mr. Drell suggested that if it was clear that everyone involved is happy,
then it didn't have to come back to Planning Commission. If there was still some
dispute, it would come back. Commissioner Fernandez agreed.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Beaty, seconded by Commissioner Jonathan,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Motion carried 4-0.
It was moved by Commissioner Beaty, seconded by Commissioner Jonathan,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1842, approving RV 97-2, subject
to conditions as amended. Motion carried 4-0.
Commissioner Beaty said that in the event that the applicant accepts the
alternative, they have talked about oleanders in the past and there is a disease that
will probably wipe them out, but for the applicant's information, they probably
wouldn't want to plant oleanders. Mr. Drell said there were other substitutes
available.
IX. MISCELLANEOUS
None.
X. COMMITTEE MEETING UPDATES
A. CIVIC CENTER STEERING COMMITTEE - (No meeting)
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B. DESERT WILLOW COMMITTEE
Mr. Drell stated that Intrawest originally expressed interest in developing the
hotel sites and backed away from that and they were now back and were
probably the hot proposal on the table to develop. Commissioner Beaty asked
if that was what was reported at the last meeting. Mr. Drell concurred. He
said they discussed it in detail. Commissioner Beaty said it was in the
minutes from two weeks ago. Mr. Drell said they talked about it some more
and they have made a very good proposal to build 800 rooms over a five year
period and a village complex associated with it. There was another offer that
had been on the table for a 300-room hotel and this offer was not only for the
whole property, but more per acre for the land. In essence they were
committing to come up with plans to the city by February for the finishing out
of the two other interior pads. Commissioner Beaty asked if that would leave
only the 22-acre site. Mr. Drell concurred, as well as the ten acres on
Country Club for which there were good offers. Commissioner Campbell
asked when the sidewalk would be completed. Mr. Drell said they were
working on it now and should be soon.
C. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE - (No meeting)
D. PROJECT AREA 4 COMMITTEE - (No meeting)
E. PALM DESERT/RANCHO MIRAGE MONTEREY AVENUE CORRIDOR
PLANNING WORK GROUP - (No meeting)
F. ZONING ORDINANCE REVIEW COMMITTEE - (November 19 and December
2, 1997)
Mr. Drell said he only attended the December 2 meeting and they discussed
the sign ordinance and probably in January there would be an amendment
before the commission. Mr. Drell said that given the fact that the
commission's representative to ZORC moved to the City Council, he asked if
they wanted to appoint a new representative from the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Jonathan suggested that if the appointment of a new
commission was eminent that they could wait only because they were close
to the time to vote to appoint Chair and Vice Chair. Acting Chairperson
Campbell concurred and asked when the next ZORC meeting was scheduled.
Mr. Drell said two weeks from tomorrow, December 17. Commissioner
Jonathan hoped there would be a replacement before then. Acting
Chairperson Campbell said that she would attend the next meeting.
XI. COMMENTS
None.
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XII. ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Commissioner Fernandez, seconded by Acting Chairperson
Campbell, adjourning the meeting to the next regular meeting on December 16,
1997 by minute motion. Motion carried 4-0. The meeting was adjourned at 7:45
p.m.
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PHILIP DRELL, ecretary
ATTEST:
,ZDNIA M. CAMPBELL, Acting Chairperson
Palm Desert Planning Commission
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