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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING
TUESDAY - MAY 18, 1999
7:00 P.M. - CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
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I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Jonathan called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Lopez led in the piedge of allegiance.
III. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Sabby Jonathan, Chairperson
Paul Beaty
Sonia Campbell
Cindy Finerty
Jim Lopez
�, Members Absent: None
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-- - Sta�fi Present: Phil Drell, Director-ofi �ommunify Uevelopment
Bob Hargreaves, City Attorney
Martin Alvarez, Assistant Planner
Mark Greenwood, Transportation Engineer
Tonya Monroe, Admi�istt'ativ� Secretary
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: ,
Reques# #o�: �s�deration of the April 20, 1999 m�eting minutes.
Action:
It was �oved by �inmissianer Campbeil, seconded by Commissioner Finerty,
approving the� April 20; 1999 rninutes as submitted. Motion carried 4-0-9
(Com�nissioner Beaty abstained). '
V. SUMM�►RY OF EOUNCI� ACTION
` Mr. Drell summarized pertinent April 22 and May 13, 1999 City Council
actions.
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VI. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None.
VII. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Case No. PMW 99-5 - AVONDALE VILLAS, LLC, Applicant
Request for approval of a lot line adjustment to expand lots into
a more regular shape within Avondale Golf Club, Tract No.
26553.
B. Case No. PP 97-10 - MONTEREY PROPERTIES, Applicant
Request for approval of a second one-year time extension for an
approved precise plan of design allowing the construction of a
7,460 square foot office building on property at 44-377
Monterey Avenue. �
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Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Beaty, seconded by Commissioner Finerty,
approving the Consent Calendar by minute motion. Motion carried 5-0.
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VIII. PUBLIC HEARINGS
Anyone who challenges any hearing matter in court may be limited to raising
only those issues he or she or someone else raised at the public hearing
described herein, or in written correspondence delivered to the Planning
Commission at, or prior to, the public hearing.
A. Case No. TPM 29246 - COACHELLA�VALLEY WATER DISTRICT,
Applicant
Request for approval of a tentative parcel map to subdivide one
parcel into two single f�mily lots. Property is located on the
west side of Portola Avenue, 700 feet south of Catalina Way at
44-491 Portola Avenue.
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Mr. Alvarez noted that an exhibit was on display. He explained that the
property is zoned R-1 and currently had a single family residence with a
detached garage located on parcel two. The request was to subdivide this
property into two lots. Parcel one would have a total of 9,000 square feet and
parcel two a total of 9,729 square feet. Condition of approval number six
required a 20 foot dedication for future roadway widening. With that
dedication those parcels would be 7,600 square feet for parcel one and parcel
two would be 8,130 square feet. Minimum lot size in the R-1 zone is 8,000,
so parcel one became a bit deficient but the ordinance allowed a credit prior
to dedication so both parcels met the minimum requirements including the
minimum 70 foot lot width. The two parcels were consistent with the
ordinance and staff recommended approval. For purposes of CEQA, this
project was a Class 15 Categorical Exemption.
Commissioner Campbell asked what would happen with the parcel where the
well was at De Anza if Portola was going to be widened. Mr. Greenwood
explained that there was a Public Works project in the works scheduled for
construction this summer to widen Portola in that area and build curb and
gutter. Commissioner Campbell said she thought that one side was fine and
�• they were going to widen the other side and asked if instead they were going
to widen both sides. Mr. Greenwood indicated that ultimately they would
have to widen both sides.
Commissioner Beaty noted that the property in question was the abandoned
Palm Desert Water Services site. He indicated that the structu�e in the back
was described as a detached accessory structure and asked if that would be
allowed to stand as it is. Mr. Alvarez said currently it was nonconforming in
that it was built prior to the city's incorporation, but it could continue as is.
If a new single family residence was built, hopefully it would be abandoned.
Commissioner Campbell pointed out that the structure was quite high in
comparison to the house. She asked how high it is. Mr. Alvarez said he didn't
know the exact height, but indicated�tFiat perhaps the applicant could answer
that question. Commissioner Beaty indicated that it seemed to be the intent
of the Water District to abandon the property and sell it. His question was if
they had to leave the structure in place or if there was any way they could
have that structure removed. He felt it was an eyesore. Mr. Drell asked Mr.
Hargreaves if as part of the parc'el map the commission could require an
improvement on some of the property to be demolished and cleared.
Commissioner Beaty asked if they could question the applicant before asking
' legal counsel. Mr. Hargreaves asked if the structure at this point was a public
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nuisance or a particular code enforcement issue. Mr. Drell asked if it was in
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a reasonable condition. Mr. Alvarez said it seemed to be in a structurally �
reasonable condition. Mr. Drell said the problem was that it was originally
permitted because it was on the same parcel as a primary dwelling. In an R-1
zone they could have accessory structures if there was a primary structure.
They would now be a separation. Mr. Alvarez said both structures would be
on one parcel. Mr. Drell indicated that if the single family dwelling and the
accessory structure was still on the same parcel the answer was that they
were perfectly legal as long as they don't fall into disrepair and become a
public nuisance. Commissioner Beaty pointed out that for anyone looking at
that lot it would be a great place to set up an auto mechanics facility.
Chairperson Jonathan asked if the structure was deemed unsightly if it could
be deemed a public nuisance. Mr. Hargreaves advised that it would have to
be very seriously unsightly with code enforcement kinds of problems. Mr.
Drell explained that it had to be due to deterioration, not because of the
original design. Commissioner Lopez asked if this was subdivided and the
house stayed there, and the house was empty and abandoned, if it could just
stay there. Mr. Drell said the house had to be secured and maintained. It
couldn't become a public nuisance. If they didn't maintain the property and
it became a public nuisance, then they could have the whole thing torn down. �
Commissioner Lopez indicated there was currently an abandoned car there and
it just seemed one step toward the beginning of deterioration. Mr. Drell said
that as a separate matter they could pursue those code enforcement issues
independent of the parcel map. Mr. Alvarez asked if not having a secured
building constituted a nuisance. Mr. Drell said if the building was not secured
and it was obviously abandoned and there were weeds growing around it, they
could get code enforcement out there. Mr. Greenwood informed commission
that the building was not secured. The out building did not have doors on it,
so it might be a code enforcement issue right now. Commissioner Beaty
suggested after hearing public testimony that the commission consider a
continuance. Commissioner Finerty agreed. Chairperson Jonathan asked if
staff knew the height of the structure and whether it is potentially in violation
� of the ordinance. Mr. Drell said it would be nonconforming in any case. He
thought it predated city incorporation. Chairperson Jonathan stated that he
wasn't saying it was a current problem, but the commission was not
compelled to allow the request. Mr. Drell said it required approval because the
commission had to determine whether the request was consistent with our
ordinances. Chairperson Jonathan noted there was also an exception to the
ordinance being requested and he thought that provided the commission with
some ability to add conditions.
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Chairperson Jonathan opened the public hearing and asked the applicant to
address the commission.
MS. ALICE LEE, 54-082 Avenida Bermudas, stated that she was
present representing CVWD from Warner Engineering. She said she
didn't know the height of that structure and it hadn't been questioned
before.
Chairperson Jonathan asked if she knew the intended plans for the site.
Ms. Lee indicated that CVWD wanted to sell the two pieces of property
separately--the house and the garage as one piece and the other lot as
a vacant lot.
Chairperson Jonathan asked if they intended to sell the piece of property with
the structure as is with the structures.
Ms. Lee said yes. She explained that they had been trying to sell it as
one large lot and hadn't been able to, so they wanted to split it. She
� thought the house was boarded up.
Commissioners Campbell and Lopez said it was.
Ms. Lee thought the structure behind it was an open shell.
Commissioner Beaty said it was a workshop for the old water district.
Ms. Lee said she has seen it but didn't know anything about it.
Commissioner Beaty said the commission would like to see the lots sold and
improved, too, but he personally would like to hear how CVWD would feel
about destroying the structure in the back while the opportunity was there.
Ms. Lee said she was sure they would prefer not to. They would like
to just sell the property.
Chairperson Jonathan indicated there was some discussion about continuing
the matter to give CVWD an opportunity to review the situation and perhaps
consider razing that rear structure. One of the things the commission would
� be considering was an exception to the ordinance in terms of the lot size and
as he understood it, they were not compelled to grant that exception so
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perhaps they could work together and find an amiabie solution to everyone's
needs.
Ms. Lee said her understanding on the lot size was that they were
within the ordinance. The staff report said the applicant was to receive
credit for the original lot size, the 9,000 square feet.
Chairperson Jonathan said she might be perfectly correct. The reason this
goes through an approval process is because approval is not automatic and the
request could be denied, not that he was suggesting that it would be. On the
other hand, if CVWD could find a way to meet the city's needs, he was sure
they could find a way to meet theirs, although that wasn't a proposed bargain.
Ms. Lee didn't think this had been mentioned to them before.
Chairperson Jonathan indicated this was the commission's first time of
reviewing this as well. He was just saying there was some discussion about
a postponement so everyone could deal with these issues.
Commissioner Campbell suggested that Ms. Lee ask CVWD if they could pare ,�
down that hanger back there. Commissioner Finerty suggested the removal
of the abandoned car. Mr. Drell said that obviously CVWD should look at it
because the city's code enforcement staff would be looking at. Commissioner
Finerty noted it would be very hard to sell a piece of property in earnest given
its current condition.
Chairperson Jonathan asked if anyone wished to give testimony if FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposal. There was no one and the public hearing was
closed.
Commissioner Beaty had made his comments and suggested a continuance to
see if the Water District could be encouraged to destroy that structure and
remove it. Commissioner Campbell added to clean up the property. Mr. Drell
indicated that justification could be that it appears to be industrial in nature
and by subdividing it according to the R-1 standards it was obviously being
denoted for residential use and it was therefore appropriate to remove the old
industrial improvements. Commissioner Beaty noted that with the Water
District's resources this could be taken care on in half a day without a
problem. Commissioner Finerty asked if that was a motion. Commissioner
Beaty concurred. Commissioner Finerty said she would second it.
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Chairperson Jonathan reo�ened the public hearing.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Beaty, seconded by Commissioner Finerty,
continuing TPM 29246 to June 1, 1999 by minute motion. Motion carried 5-
0.
B. Case No. PP 98-1 Amendment No. 1 - MR. AND MRS. DOWGIALO,
Applicants
Request for approval of an amendment to a precise plan to
demolish an existing 856 square foot garage and allow the
construction of a 2,046 square foot office building at 44-835
Portola Avenue.
Mr. Alvarez noted that in March of 1998 the commission reviewed this project
and recommended approval to city council. The March project included a
general plan amendment, change of zone from residential to office and the
�+ remodel of the existing residence to a 2,300 square foot office. That building
also included a detached garage structure located at the southwest corner of
the property which was just going to be used for storage purposes only. The
applicant now requested that demolishing of that building and requested an
amendment to the precise plan to build a freestanding 2,000 square foot office
building. Plans and elevations were on display. The new building would have
a maximum height of 16 feet 4 inches. There would be 16 total parking
spaces on the site which would be sufficient to accommodate the demand
required by the ordinance. The Architectural Review Commission granted
preliminary approval on May 1 1 and stipulated one condition that the south
wall running along the perimeter tie in at the corner and that area be heavily
landscaped. With that condition they granted preliminary approval. The
project meets all requirements and has been previously assessed for purposes
of CEQA. Staff recommended approval.
Commissioner Campbell asked if the applicant knew that with that number of
parking spaces that building could not be used for dental or medical uses. Mr.
Alvarez said there were aware of that and intended to use this facility as
general office. Commissioner Campbell said there was only one handicapped
parking space provided and asked how many there should be. Mr. Alvarez said
� the requirement was for one handicapped space for the first 25 spaces.
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Chairperson Jonathan onened the public hearing and asked the applicant to
address the commission.
MR. DOWGIALO, 77-200 Avenida Arteaga in La Quinta, said his only
comment was what led to this finaliiation was that the arch and site
committee on the garage that was there had requested extensive
renovation. When they finally got into bidding it and priced it out it
wasn't worthwhile to keep that old building. Arch and site actually got
what they were originally hoping to get and that was for them to finish
off the project. They decided to do it in one shot and get it done.
Commissioner Campbell felt this would look a lot better too rather than just
having that structure there.
Chairperson Jonathan asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposal. There was no one. Chairperson Jonathan asked
for commission comments.
Action: s
It moved by Commissioner Finerty, seconded by Commissioner Campbell, ,�p
approving the findings as presented by staff. Chairperson Jonathan
commented that this was a perfect use of that site and looked like it would be
a wonderful project. He thanked the applicants for putting it together and
called for the vote. Motion carried 5-0.
It was moved by Commissioner Finerty, seconded by Commissioner Campbell,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1924, approving PP 98-1
Amendment No. 1, subject to conditions. Motion carried 5-0.
IX. MISCELLANEOUS
None.
X. COMMITTEE MEETING UPDATES
A. ART IN PUBLIC PLACES - (No meeting)
B. CIVIC CENTER STEERING COMMITTEE - (No meeting) �
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C. DESERT WILLOW COMMITTEE - (May 4 and 18, 1999)
On May 4, 1999 Commission Finerty noted that Rudy Acosta would be
going to work for Golf Dimensions. They needed a project manager to
oversee completion of the clubhouse. For Planning Commission
purposes, there was a lot line adjustment for Montecito Homes that
would probably be coming before them. May 18, 1999 there was
discussion about David Leadbetter expanding his learning center. They
would upgrade the fixtures and finish the inside of the entrance where
the majority of the retail was would match the proposed mahogany
wood. They would also go ahead with a master signage program and
hire a consultant. What would be coming before Planning Commission
would probably be that Intrawest would be asking for directional
signage for the casual traveler because they had all kinds of people
coming in having no clue where they were going.
D. PROJECT AREA 4 COMMITTEE - (May 17, 1999)
Commissioner Finerty indicated there was major discussion with regard
� to the traffic flow and stop signs at Kansas and Hovley Lane. The
committee was making a recommendation to City Council. Hopefully
the wall contract would be awarded in August as well as the
landscaping. The neighborhood park that Planning Commission
approved went out to bid and came in over 5250,000 more than what
was originally anticipated, but they would try and make it work.
Commissioner Finerty asked if Mr. Drell could add something regarding
the regional park. Mr. Drell clarified on the neighborhood park that they
got an engineer's estimate on the park and the decision was whether to
go to bid or to pare it down. The decision was to go ahead and pay for
what we want. Regarding the regional park, there would be a tract map
going to Planning Commission in the next three or four months for the
120 acres east of the Country Club industrial office park. Between that
and Regency Palms on the north side of Country Club across from the
Resorter. It was being shown as a 27 acre park site, part of which was
dedication, retention area and land to be purchased. There was also
discussion of an elementary school site on the property. The rest was
being proposed as 8,000 square foot minimum sized residential lots all
the way back to the freeway. Chairperson Jonathan asked what kinds
of amenities the regional park would contain. Mr. Drell thought it
� would probably contain some softball/baseball fields, maybe more of the
multi use aspect of it like the Civic Center, tennis courts, soccer fields,
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basketball, etc. Commissioner Lopez asked for clarification that the
park would be in addition to the homes or one or the other. Mr. Drell
said it was 120 acres so approximately 30 acres would be elementary
school/park site and 90 acres for the homes. He noted that it would
require a change of zone. It was zoned R-1 12,000 right now.
Chairperson Jonathan asked what was wrong with that zone. Mr. Drell
said that the city was in a position to negotiate on the value of the
property.
Commissioner Beaty asked Commissioner Finerty what the discussion
was about the stop signs at Kansas and Hovley Lane. Commissioner
Finerty indicated it was being said that there was too much signage in
the street and everyone got confused and also presented a problem for
those coming out of the Resorter. They agreed if they were to move
the stop sign back behind the exit entrance to the Resorter that would
allow them to get out easier. They also talked about putting in an
access lane in the center. Mr. Drell said it was kind of a channelization
lane so left turns out of the Resorter would be channeled into the center
lane and would not conflict with right turns out of Kansas.
Commissioner Beaty said he has heard lots of snide comments about ,,,�i
those signs and he applauded the action because he has gotten stuck
getting out of Kansas there and something had to be done.
Commissioner Finerty said they were also planning to put a signal at
Hovley and Warner Trail which would also help.
E. PALM DESERT/RANCHO MIRAGE MONTEREY AVENUE CORRIDOR
PLANNING WORK GROUP - (No meeting)
F. ZONING ORDINANCE REVIEW COMMITTEE - (April 28, 1999)
Commissioner Campbell noted that they discussed RV permits and
currently the screening requirement included a six foot fence, but they
knew that didn't screen any of the RVS. Also, Member Benson felt that
once a permit was obtained, it shouldn't run with the land. If the
property was sold, the new buyer would need to get a permit if they
had an RV. This would discourage having storage in front of the home.
Mr. Drell noted that a revised ordinance was adopted by Council and it
was essentially the same as the current ordinance with the exception
that it removed the misleading inference that if there was six feet of
screening they could screen a 10 foot RV. The screening provision was
a subjective decision dealt on a case by case basis by the ARC as purely '�
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a design issue and the Planning Commission had been removed from the
process. Therefore if there was an appeal of the ARC decision, it would
go directly to the City Council since it was a design issue, not a land
use/planning issue. By removing the six foot definition it would make
it clear and the vast majority of the current RVs in front yards would not
be able to comply and it would make it clearer and the process quicker,
although in reality it was no more friendly to RV owners. Commissioner
Campbell noted that besides disallowing RV storage in the front was a
consensus to allow storage on the side yards but the height could not
exceed six feet. Mr. Drell indicated that was not adopted as part of the
ordinance. Commissioner Campbell indicated it was a consensus of the
committee to do that. Mr. Drell said that the Council created a separate
RV review committee which was quite divided but did vote to basically
stick with the current standards with the clarifications relative to the six
feet.
XI. COMMENTS
w�. None.
XII. ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Commissioner Lopez, seconded by Commissioner Finerty,
adjourning the meeting by minute motion. Motion carried 5-0. The meeting
was adjourned at 7:37 p.m.
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PHILIP DRELC� Secretary
ATTEST:
SABBY JONATH N, Chairperson
Palm Desert Planning Commission
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