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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING
TUESDAY - OCTOBER 19, 1999
r� 7:00 P.M. - CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Jonathan called the meeting to order at 7:01 p.m.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Beaty led in the pledge of allegiance.
III. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Sabby Jonathan, Chairperson
Paul Beaty, Vice Chairperson
Sonia Campbell
Cindy Finerty
Jim Lopez
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Philip Drell, Director of Community Development
Bob Hargreaves, City Attorney
Steve Smith, Planning Manager
Martin Alvarez, Associate Planner
Tonya Monroe, Administrative Secretary
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Consideration of the October 5, 1999 meeting minutes.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner Beaty,
to approve the October 5, 1999 minutes as submitted. Motion carried 5-0.
V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION
Mr. Drell summarized pertinent October 14, 1999 City Council actions.
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VI. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None.
VII. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Case No. PMW 99-01 - FOXX DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION,
Applicant
Request for approval of a parcel map waiver to merge two lots
more particularly described as APNs 627-020-004, 627-020-005
at 73-061 Fred Waring Drive.
B. Case No. PMW 99-14 - VLADIMIR PRAVDIC - Applicant
Request for approval of a parcel map waiver to merge two lots
to create one large lot to facilitate the expansion and remodel of
an existing residential building APNs 628-160-002 and 003.
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Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner Beaty,
approving the Consent Calendar by minute motion. Motion carried 5-0.
Vill. PUBLIC HEARINGS
Anyone who challenges any hearing matter in court may be limited to raising
only those issues he/she or someone else raised at the public hearing described
herein, or in written correspondence delivered to the Planning Commission at,
or prior to, the public hearing.
A. Case No. HDPP 99-2 - YOLANDA FUENTES MENDOZA FOR ROY W.
CARVER, Applicant (Continued from October 5, 1999)
Request for approval of a hillside development plan to allow
grading and construction of a 3,200 square foot single family
dwelling on a 7.5 acre site in the hillside residential zone at 72-
275 Upper Way West.
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Mr. Drell noted that this project was in complete compliance with all the
specific requirements of the Hillside zone. It's design was such that it
succeeded in blending to the greatest extent possible with the natural terrain
with its color, architectural style and the plan for grading and renaturalization
of all disturbed areas. Therefore, staff was recommending that Planning
Commission recommend approval of this project to the City Council.
Commissioner Lopez informed commission that he would be abstaining since
this was a continued case and he was absent from the last meeting.
Chairperson Jonathan noted that the matter was continued to ensure proper
public notice was given. Chairperson Jonathan oogened the public hearing and
asked the applicant to address the commission.
MS. MENDOZA spoke from the audience and said that she thought the
project spoke for itself.
Chairperson Jonathan asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION. There was no one and the public hearing was closed.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Beaty, seconded by Commissioner Campbell,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Commissioner Finerty
complimented the applicant on their great hillside development sensitivity and
felt they couldn't have done it any better and it was greatly appreciated.
Chairperson Jonathan agreed and called for the vote. Motion carried 4-0-1
(Commissioner Lopez abstained).
It was moved by Commissioner Beaty, seconded by Commissioner Campbell,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1949, recommending to City
Council approval of HDPP 99-2, subject to conditions. Motion carried 4-0-1
(Commissioner Lopez abstained).
B. Case No. TT 29489 - SEVERIN & CO. LLC, Applicant
Request for approval of a one lot subdivision for 470 senior
residential units previously approved as part of the Portofino
project.
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Mr. Drell stated that this was a requirement of the State Department of Real
Estate. They would be marketing these units with a life tenancy feature and
that had been defined by the State as most of them and that this was a form
of real estate, therefore, to regulate it there had to be a map. For the State
Department of Real Estate to regulate properly there had to be a subdivision
map and were requiring one. This would be a typical air-space condominium
map, although units would not be sold in fee, they would be life tenancy. It
didn't in any way effect the design or any of the planning issues associated
with the project. Therefore, staff recommended approval.
Chairperson Jonathan asked for confirmation that there was no change in the
project as previously to the commission. Mr. Drell said that was correct.
Chairperson Jonathan opened the public hearing and asked the applicant to
address the commission.
MR. MIKE SMITH, 73-185 Highway 111 in Palm Desert, stated that
they had no objection to the condition of approval. He said he did want
to make one note on the discussion on the staff report. It said that it
was due to the number of units and that wasn't what triggered the
DRE. They wanted to control it but didn't know how and figured this
was the best way. That was why they were filing the one unit
condominium map. Other than that the project was identical to what
was presented to the commission. This was why the project hadn't
gone forward--it was because of the State.
Chairperson Jonathan asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposal. There was no one and the public hearing was
closed.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner Finerty,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Motion carried 5-0.
It was moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner Finerty,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1950, approving TT 29489,
subject to conditions. Motion carried 5-0.
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C. Case No. CUP 91-8 Amendment - SOUTHWEST COMMUNITY
CHURCH, Applicant
Request for approval of an extension of a conditional use permit
for a 6,400 square foot metal building at 73-251 Hovley Lane
West.
Mr. Drell indicated that the request had to do with the much discussed metal
building on Hovley which was originally approved for one year and extended
until September 30, 1999. It was originally approved hoping that Southwest
Church's facility would be completed by now. They believed they would be
able to vacate the use of this building or the need for this building by January
1 , 2000. They had since received a request to extend the use of the metal
building until that time. The building was first approved to house the church's
youth activities which are quite extensive and had been held outdoors. As a
result it generated a lot of complaints from the neighborhood as a result of
these large groups of kids outdoors often into the evening. Unfortunately,
there was good news bad news for the neighborhood. The bad news was that
�.. the church still had three months in which they would be occupying the
property. The good news was that it was now a certainty that they would be
gone. When the city first approved the use in 1998, it was not a certainty
that the church would be successful in relocating and had not yet broken
ground. The good news was that the more significant impact on the
neighborhood, which was the general activities of the church on Sunday due
to its great popularity and all the wonderful things it does created a significant
inconvenience and hardship on that neighborhood. On balance the decision to
allow the metal building originally so that the outdoor activities could go
indoors had resulted in positive impacts on that neighborhood. There was still
the accompanying use of the building on the evenings during the week which
still caused some disruption just by virtue of the fact of having that many
people going in and out of that facility. No matter who they were, it was a
disruption. Since the last meetings and hearings on the Temple Sinai proposal,
there didn't seem to be as much unanimity in the neighborhood as to the
course of action relative to that metal building. Mr. Richards and Mr. Wiley
were both present. Without the use of the metal building, the activities that
were outside that went indoors were now outside again and even though they
were outside on the church property and whether or not they were amplified.
It was true that the existing conditions to the permit forbid any amplification
outdoors anywhere on the property. Practically speaking, 200-300 kids could
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be noisy with or without amplification. He thought it was preferable to have
the children's activities indoors somewhere. The question was where. On
Saturday and Sunday when there are adult services in the main sanctuary,
especially on Sunday, and the surrounding lawn area around the metal was a
parking lot, the activities associated with what goes on in the building were
probably dwarfed by what goes on in the parking lot. And since there were
few alternatives for the church in terms of where these kids could go on the
weekends, staff recommended that they be permitted to continue to use the
metal building on the weekend. During the week where the availability of the
main sanctuary was fairly open, staff was recommending that the metal
building activity be closed and if at all possible scheduling of the main
sanctuary be reorganized to accommodate all the youth activity as well as
whatever adult activities might exist. His understanding was that there might
be a conflict on a Tuesday night with a marriage encounter group. He wasn't
sure what the magnitude of the number of adults who participated in that
were, whether in fact they needed the facilities of a 1 ,200 seat auditorium or
whether there were other alternative facilities for them and indicated the
applicant could address that. Right now staff was recommending that during
the week the metal building and therefore all activity on that five acres be „
eliminated for the week. While this might be something of an inconvenience
for the church, staff felt it was an acceptable trade off given the
inconvenience suffered by the neighborhood over the years. Therefore,
Condition No. 6 was amended of the original conditional use permit to read,
"Use of the metal building shall be limited to Saturdays between the hours of
12:00 p.m. and 8:00 p.m. and Sundays between 8:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m.
Uses shall be prohibited Monday through Friday. Activities previously
scheduled during the time periods prohibited by this conditions shall be
relocated to the main church sanctuary and rescheduled as necessary. All use
of the building shall cease on January 2, 2000 and shall not resume until
remodeling is completed in connection with CUP 99-7", which was the Temple
Sinai conditional use permit. He asked for any questions.
Commissioner Campbell asked if other conditions could be imposed on them
in answer to Mr. Wiley's letter. Mr. Drell said yes. He mentioned that those
conditions already existed and should be enforced relative to dust control. The
existing condition requires a dust free surface. Mr. Wiley suggested that they
try to replant with annual rye, but he wasn't sure that would be particularly
effective at this point in time given that annual rye needs about a month to
establish itself and wasn't sure if even at that tender stage it would survive in
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a parking lot. But they needed to employ and it sounded like there were some
problems currently with their irrigation system, those problems had to be
corrected and a irrigation schedule established prior to any use of the field as
a parking lot to insure that there is no dust. Those were existing conditions.
Chairperson Jonathan opened the public hearing and asked the applicant to
address the commission.
MR. ROGER PHILLIPS, 73-330 Caliandra Street in Palm Desert, thanked
staff for their recommendation. He thought they had an alternative for
Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday for the adults. There were about
300 adults that also met and he knew staff wanted to reschedule
things, but there were so many bodies and they just couldn't fit them
in. Their suggestion was to put the adults in the metal building.
Therefore, that would take away some of the noise so during the week
they wouldn't have any high school or junior high or any children of any
age in the metal building except a parent that carried in a child or
something. If they put the adults in the medical building there wouldn't
... be the noise they had before. The second suggestion was on the dust.
Right now he had given his managers, and he didn't care about the
sprinkler system which they would have to tear up and make a bunch
of noise, so they bought a bunch of hoses and he was telling them to
water the place down every day before they park there. They would
just take the hoses out and by hand water down the locations so there
wouldn't be any dust. That was their suggestion. He thought it was
one that would cause less conflict and still be able to do some work
with a lot of people which was a very important program for them.
Commissioner Campbell asked if he was saying that the metal building would
be used by the adults.
Mr. Phillips concurred that it would be during the week. On the
weekend they couldn't because there were 3,000 people in church on
Sunday. It would be hard to get them in the metal building during the
weekend. There would only be adults during the week.
Commissioner Campbell asked if they were going to put the adults in the metal
building Monday through Wednesday, who would be in the main sanctuary.
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Mr. Phillips said the teenagers. The students would go there.
Chairperson Jonathan asked which days the metal building would be in use by
the adults.
Mr. Phillips said Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday.
Commissioner Campbell asked during what hours.
Mr. Phillips said 6:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m.
Commissioner Lopez asked Mr. Phillips to elaborate on how they would take
care of the dirt and sand on the weekend itself.
Mr. Phillips said he told his maintenance crew to buy hoses and they
would carry them out and start spraying them down Saturday before
the service on Saturday night and then on Sunday morning do it before
people come on Sunday. That was the only way they were going to s
keep it down. They could go out there and try to dig up the pipe but
that would cause more dust and more problems. They didn't need more
dust and construction so they just bought a bunch of hoses and they
would spray it down all the time.
Commissioner Campbell asked if Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday that
parking lot where the grass is was not used at all.
Mr. Phillips said they don't park any cars there except on Saturday night
and Sunday.
Commissioner Campbell asked if they would also be able to remove those
cones on Sunday night when the services were over, because they were there
on Monday.
Mr. Phillips said they have been doing it on Monday, but that was fine.
They would remove them Sunday night right after church.
Chairperson Jonathan asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposal.
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MR. JAMES H. RICHARDS, of 40-840 Avenida Estrada located on the
west side of the grass parking lot of the church, said that he has had
somewhat of an adversarial relationship with Southwest Community
Church in the past, but he had been working directly with Roger Phillips
lately and he didn't see how moving people from the sanctuary building
to the metal building or vice versa would have a tremendous impact.
People would still come and go. That wasn't a negative comment. He
was saying that he didn't have a problem with their request to use the
building. Whether it was the sanctuary or the steel building was moot.
It wasn't the fact that there were people in the steel building, it was the
comings and goings. At other times, when there have been people, he
called Mr. Phillips directly and he had been working with him with their
security guard on clearing up the issues. But in general, they had been
doing much better. If they have activities outdoors, skateboarding and
that sort of thing, there were lots of lights and lots of kids, but they
ended at 9:30 p.m. or so, and people left. They didn't linger. That was
the sound issue. It wasn't when the thing was going on so much, it
was the impact of people hanging around and no one knowing about it.
That was taken care of. He had requested of Mr. Phillips that sprinklers
be removed from the roof of the building because it was creating a
glare, but now that temperatures were cooler that had been done. He
believed that Mr. Phillips was working on taking an external alarm
system off of the steel building because it was being triggered by kids
jimmying the doors or earthquakes. That was resolved. So they were
moving forward and he didn't see one way or another why they had to
be in the sanctuary versus the steel building. That wasn't an issue. He
could say that they could endure for another three months, but it
wasn't even that because it would be the same business as usual for
three more months, for the most part. He didn't see why they should
have to shuffle themselves around for this particular time period.
Chairperson Jonathan asked for confirmation that Mr. Richards wouldn't object
if there were teenagers actually using the metal building during the week.
Mr. Richards replied no.
MR. JERRY WILEY, 40-900 Avenida Estrada, said that he has been at
city hall many times during the last three years on the Southwest issue.
This morning he had an appointment in Indio and took Fred Waring out
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and he went by the new Southwest Community Church. It was a
beautiful church. He also noticed that they had grass everywhere.
Trees everywhere. Shrubs everywhere. It was a beautiful, beautiful
facility. On his way back from Indio, he saw it all again. He got back
to his residence and what did he see? A field that was half dirt, half
grass. Bright orange cones that had been out there the last five or six
weeks that had not been picked up. All of a sudden they were picked
up late yesterday afternoon. He asked where they were the last five or
six weeks. Also, the letter they have from Mr. Moore was very
consistent with the letters the commission and residents of Hovley Lane
have been receiving for the last three years. They way that it was
consistent was that it had threats in it. The threats were that if the
commission didn't agree to take out number three that he thought had
to do with the amplified music and the PA system, basically what he
was going to do was go ahead and violate that and make a lot of noise
if they closed the metal building down. That was a threat. The last
sentence in the letter, "Without the removal of this item we will have
to halt our normal operation to hundreds of teenagers which will put us '
out of business." He asked how many people in the room thought that
Mr. Moore would be put out of business. No one raised their hand.
Because he wasn't going to go out of business. That was just another
lie. The residents of their area were tired of all these lies and
commitments and he recommended that the planning commission deny
this conditional use permit.
Chairperson Jonathan closed the public hearing and asked for commission
comments.
Commissioner Campbell stated that she lives on Hovley Lane West, not as
close to Mr. Richards or Mr. Wiley that are next to the church. She felt that
this has come before the commission many times and she felt they should
grant an exception to condition number six. Mr. Phillips stated that the
sprinklers would be taken care of, the cones would be taken care of and if the
youth was moved to the main facility instead of the metal building, that would
be fine with her. As Mr. Richards stated, it didn't make any difference to him
either. She was in favor of granting the extension to January 1 , 2000.
Chairperson Jonathan said that was with modification to the staff
recommendation to amend condition number six in that Commissioner I
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Campbell was in favor of weekday use Monday through Wednesday of the
metal building by adults from 6:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. Commissioner Campbell
said that would be fine because either way, the adults and/or the youth would
be there. Chairperson Jonathan said staff's recommendation was to exclude
weekday use of the metal building completely. The applicant indicated that
they were really squished for space and that they would like the adults in the
metal building. Commissioner Campbell asked who would be using the metal
building on Saturday and Sunday. Mr. Drell said the teenagers would use it
then. Chairperson Jonathan felt that was consistent with the staff report. It
wasn't the weekend usage, but the weekday use, specifically Monday through
Wednesday 6:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. that was the only modification to staff's
recommendation. Chairperson Campbell said she would like to go with staff's
recommendation for Saturday and Sunday. Only for the youth. Mr. Drell said
that was correct and Monday through Wednesday it would be for the adults
only.
Commissioner Lopez asked if with this recommendation of changing the
amended area that meant they would need to change the wording to allow
Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday from 6:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. He said his
impression was that the church was really attempting to move ahead in a
positive manner by alleviating the dust problems and working with the
community as far as the use of the building. He would approve of the use of
it on the weekends as well as the Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday and then
monitor it carefully so that they are getting the cones up and making sure that
the dust is handled properly.
Commissioner Beaty asked Mr. Phillips if there was any chance that the church
would not be finished by January 1 , 2000.
Mr. Phillips said he was about the 7,000th person to ask and their
schedule was staying firm.
Commissioner Beaty stated that as far as he was concerned, this issue had
gone beyond ridiculous. They've all spent way too much time and city staff
had spent way too much time on it and the residents. He hoped that if the
commission grants this one, this would be the end of it. He would be in favor
as amended. He thought they could tolerate it for three months. With all due
respect to Commissioner Lopez, he indicated that the commission has heard
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them say before that they want to comply, want to do this, want to be great,
but it hasn't happened.
Commissioner Finerty concurred with her fellow commissioners. It didn't
matter to her whether it was adults or kids using the metal building.
Chairperson Jonathan also concurred. He thought Monday through
Wednesday use was fine. He was very much aware of the history that the
church has had with the neighbors and it had been a constant source of
disappointment as to the lack of effort and consideration and cooperation. He
was not going to battle two and a half more months, but if this was before the
commission for a one-year extension, it would be tough going from his
perspective. His sincere hope was that for the next two and a half months
that the church would put in a truly good faith effort to be a good neighbor its
last few weeks there. Based on that, he would also concur. He asked if the
commission was talking about Monday through Wednesday, 6:00 p.m. to 9:00
p.m. for adults only, teenager, or it didn't matter. Commissioner Beaty said
the request was for adults only and he was in favor of that. Chairperson
Jonathan asked for a motion to that effect.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Beaty, seconded by Commissioner Campbell,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Motion carried 5-0.
It was moved by Commissioner Beaty, seconded by Commissioner Campbell,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1951 , approving CUP 91-8
Amendment, subject to conditions as amended. Motion carried 5-0.
Commissioner Beaty commented that if dust control wasn't taken care of and
if the cones were not removed, he asked what was going to happen. Mr. Drell
said it would be a violation and they could send Code Enforcement down
there. He thought the dust would be controlled. Commissioner Beaty
requested that the church follow through as they indicated. Mr. Drell noted
that staff has cited Sunrise Company and other construction companies for
lack of dust control and thought they could do the same in this case.
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D. Case No. CUP 99-11 - ROBERT NEAL ROUZIER, M.D., INC./
PREVENTATIVE MEDICAL CLINICS OF THE DESERT, Applicant
Request for approval of a conditional use permit to allow a 2,954
square foot medical office located at 77-564 Country Club Drive,
Suite 320.
Mr. Smith indicated that the property was in the industrial park at Country
Club and Desert Park Drive. These were the 2 two-story buildings on the west
side of the intersection. They were specifically talking about Building "B"
which was the westerly most building. Building "B" was some 26,000 square
feet. The request was to put a 2,900 square foot medical office in it. As
commission would recall, in 1998 the city amended the parking code for
medical offices requiring up to six spaces per 1 ,000 square feet of use and
requiring a conditional use permit. Staff conducted a parking survey in this
parking lot over the last week and found a vacancy of between 49.6 and
52.7% of the spaces. That represented 64-68 parking spaces on average.
Staff spoke with the building management people and with this occupant the
building would be 100% occupied. Staff was quite comfortable that parking
was available to support this medical office use. Notwithstanding, staff was
suggesting a condition number four which would limit the number of
employees to four: one doctor and three staff members which would be
consistent with the letter on file dated September 17, 1999. With that staff
recommended approval, subject to conditions. He asked for any questions.
Commissioner Campbell noted there was now a doctor and three staff. She
asked how they would know if they were going to have any additional staff.
Mr. Smith said they would technically need an amendment to this conditional
use permit to expand the use. How would staff know? They would receive
complaints from other tenants in all likelihood. Mr. Drell said that if there was
a parking problem, then they would become aware and they would find out
why. If there was no parking problem, then staff probably didn't care. If a
problem results and it turns out that they have three doctors and a staff of ten
and that was why there was a problem, then they would deal with it.
Chairperson Jonathan opened the public hearing and asked the applicant to
address the commission.
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MS. CAROLYN ROUZIER, 2052 North East Cerritos Drive in Palm
Springs, and the Palm Desert address would be 77-564 Country Club.
Commissioner Campbell asked how many offices the facility would have.
Ms. Rouzier said it was one office with two exam rooms. It wasn't a
surgical center.
Commissioner Campbell asked how often appointments were schedules.
Ms. Rouzier said it depended upon the complexity of the appointment.
Anywhere from a simple 15 minute appointment to an hour for complex
appointments.
Commissioner Campbell asked if they would have two patients there. If they
booked one for 15 minutes, they would make sure they were out of the
parking lot before another one was taken.
Ms. Rouzier said no, she was sure the next person would be in getting
ready for the next appointment. But with four staff members and 18
parking spaces, even having three waiting shouldn't be a problem.
Commissioner Campbell noted that there was also a dentist in that building
also.
Ms. Rouzier concurred and thought that he probably went through the
same procedure to count parking places.
Chairperson Jonathan asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposal. There was no one and the public hearing was
closed.
Commissioner Campbell asked Mr. Smith if, with a dentist located there, if he
was there before the change was made. Mr. Smith said yes. Commissioner
Campbell said then that they really didn't have any idea how many staff. Mr.
Smith said that he knew there was ample parking there.
Chairperson Jonathan said he knew the council liked to hear an explanation of
the commission votes and he wanted to state that he was in general favor of
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the application, but he would vote against it only because he thought a good
committee chose to create a new parking standard for medical use and council
chose appropriately to approve that and to establish and maintain a precedence
and a pattern of granting exceptions to that standard was unwise and
inappropriate. He was fully cognizant of staff's parking study and he believed
and didn't question it's veracity, but he has seen parking studies used to
manipulate and justify various positions, so he tended to discount them. His
feeling was they should change the parking standard if they were going to be
consistently granting exceptions, or they should abide by them. Only for that
reason he was going to vote against the project.
Commissioner Campbell stated that she would be doing the same thing. She
wanted to abide by that ordinance also. No exceptions. Chairperson Jonathan
asked if there was a motion for approval. There was no response.
Chairperson Jonathan asked for a motion of denial.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner Finerty,
denying the project and directing staff to prepare a resolution of denial for
adoption at the next meeting. Motion carried 5-0.
The applicant spoke from the audience and said she didn't understand the
action. Chairperson Jonathan informed Ms. Rouzier that staff could address
her question in greater detail, but essentially the application at this point by the
Planning Commission had been denied. She did have an opportunity to appeal
the decision to the City Council. If she called the Planning Department
tomorrow they could guide her through that process. Ms. Rouzier spoke again
about the parking, and Chairperson Jonathan informed her that the public
hearing was closed so the commission wouldn't be entertaining further
testimony. He felt that staff could answer most of her questions and she had
the opportunity to appeal the commission's decision to the City Council.
Chairperson Jonathan informed commission that he would be abstaining from
the next item on the agenda because he was a property owner near that
project. He asked Vice Chairman Beaty to lead the commission in that matter.
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E. Case No. PP 99-15 - ROBERT RICCIARDI for NICK CONTI, Applicant
Request for approval of a Negative Declaration of Environmental
Impact and a precise plan to construct a 10,000 square foot
industrial building located at 42-710 Melanie Place.
Mr. Alvarez noted that the site plan and elevations were on display. He noted
that the location of the property was on Melanie Place. He pointed out the
KESQ facility to the north, Cardiff Limousine, and to the east was CVWD's
waste water treatment property. Mr. Alvarez indicated that the property was
basically an infill industrial property consisting of a 10,000 square foot
industrial building. There was a two-story element in the front portion at 26
feet high. The remainder of the project would be 22 feet high, one story, and
would house the industrial warehouse area. The Architectural Review
Commission granted preliminary approval at their September 14, 1999
meeting. The design of the project was a standard industrial building
consisting of split face precision block and stucco finishes. In terms of ,
parking, the project would have 17 onsite parking spaces sufficient to meet
the parking ordinance requirements of two per 1,000. The building had 8,500
square feet of usable space that takes into account the 15% reduction for non-
usable space which in this case includes a portion of the mezzanine, which
was used for storage only, portions of the stairwell, restrooms and utility
areas. Staff recommended approval of the project, subject to the conditions.
Commissioner Campbell asked if Mr. Alvarez knew what the building would be
used for. Mr. Alvarez said the applicant indicated that it would be used for a
counter top manufacturer and installer.
Vice Chairperson Beaty opened the public hearing and asked the applicant to
address the commission.
MR. ROBERT RICCIARDI, 75-090 St. Charles Place, Suite A, Palm
Desert, stated that he was in agreement with the staff report and they
were finishing up on the working drawing so that they could submit
plans right away to get moving on the project.
Commissioner Campbell noted that the Architectural Review Committee
approved the building but they had some questions regarding the trees and
landscaping.
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Mr. Ricciardi said they wanted bigger plant material. He said they
would be glad to provide it. That was no problem.
Commissioner Campbell said they wanted trees in the parking lots and not
oleanders.
Mr. Ricciardi said they wouldn't be oleanders.
Vice Chairperson Beaty asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposal. There was no one and the public hearing was
closed. Vice Chairperson Beaty asked for commission comments.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Lopez, seconded by Commissioner Finerty,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Motion carried 4-0-1
(Chairperson Jonathan abstained).
It was moved by Commissioner Lopez, seconded by Commissioner Finerty,
'�► adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1952, approving PP 99-15,
subject to conditions. Motion carried 4-0-1 (Chairperson Jonathan abstained).
Vice Chairperson Beaty turned the meeting back over to Chairperson Jonathan.
F. Case No. PP 99-13 - BRIAN MCNABB for HOMA, LLC, Applicant
Request for approval of a Negative Declaration of Environmental
Impact and a precise plan of design to construct a 3,000 square
foot Jiffy Lube facility on the west side of Washington Street,
165 feet north of Avenue of the States.
Mr. Alvarez said the proposal was for a 3,000 square foot Jiffy Lube facility
located in the existing Albertson's/SavOn shopping center. The property
fronted on Washington Street just north of Avenue of the States. This was
one of three remaining commercial pads within the shopping center which was
originally approved under the County's jurisdiction. By way of background, he
pointed out that the property was at the southeast corner of the project. He
pointed out SavOn, Albertson's and the bank. The pad itself was 21 ,500
square feet and was currently vacant and pregraded. It has 26 onsite parking
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spaces. This proposal originally came to ARC on August 24. At that point it
was denied and based on its original design, being a blank industrial type
building with split face walls, exposed overhead doors to Washington and to
the shopping center. As a result of that denial, the applicant submitted revised
plans which fully incorporated design elements and details of the shopping
center which were consistent with the city's architectural design standards.
Site planning issues had also been resolved in terms of screening the overhead
doors that service the bays. The project would gain access from Washington
.Street. Vehicles would then travel west and swing around into the bays.
There was an alternate entrance from within the shopping center also. In
terms of architectural compatibility, design standards to meet the city's
requirements, the project as shown on the rendering fully complied with and
met the expectations of design quality for the City of Palm Desert. The
Architectural Review Commission voted to grant preliminary approval at its
September 14 meeting. The building itself was 17'4" high with a 25' tower
element. As seen in the rendering, the architecture had been fully sensitive to
the function of the property, which was a service facility providing oil changes
to vehicles. No vehicles would be stored onsite over night. Customers would
wait onsite while their vehicles were being serviced. In terms of parking, a
parking analysis of the entire shopping center was done. This pad was part
of the existing Albertson's shopping center and shared parking and easement
rights. Based on the numbers and square footages that were also included in
the commission packets on the site plans, the project as a whole had a 5.5
parking spaces per 1 ,000 square feet of use ratio. This was consistent with
the regional commercial parking requirement. In terms of CEQA, staff was
recommending that commission approve a Negative Declaration of
Environmental Impact and approval of the project as it meets all the Zoning
Ordinance requirements.
Chairperson Jonathan asked for some detail about how the bays were
screened from Washington Street. Mr. Alvarez pointed out the east elevation,
the tower element would provide some opportunity for views into the store to
the waiting area. The portions of architecture directly to the south and
portions of the north and east corners were completely solid architectural
elements. They included stucco finishes to match the existing architecture and
solid ceramic detailing. In terms of screening the overhead doors, there were
solid architectural features in both the north and east sections which faced
Washington.
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Chairperson Jonathan opened the public hearing and asked the applicant to
address the commission.
MR. BRIAN McNABB, BSD Enterprises, 8842 Saturn Street in Los
Angeles, stated that he was speaking on behalf of the applicant. The
applicant was present, the owner, as well as the business owner and
residents of the area who were here if commission would like them to
address their feelings for this project. He said they supported the staff
report and had reviewed the conditions and were satisfied with them.
He said he just wanted the commission to know, and they probably
didn't hear it very often, but it was a great pleasure working with the
staff and the person who answered the phone for the planning staff.
Chairperson Jonathan said they do hear it quite often but it was nevertheless
appreciated. He thanked Mr. McNabb for saying that.
Chairperson Jonathan asked if Mr. McNabb was okay with the Architectural
Review Commission's required changes.
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Mr. McNabb said they have actually modified the site plan and the one
before the commission complied with it.
Commissioner Lopez asked if they required a franchise to operate Jiffy Lube's
since it was a national organization.
Mr. McNabb confirmed that it was a national organization and would be
a franchise.
Commissioner Lopez asked if there were guidelines as to the storage of
vehicles overnight and things along that line that were brought up a little
earlier. If there was some type of rules and regulations they would operate
under.
Mr. McNabb said there were two parts of that. One was that, Jiffy
Lube, as part of their rules, didn't allow the franchisee to store the
vehicles. Two, there was a property manager that was on the site most
of the day and if there was fall down on the part of the franchisee, the
property manager would be after them.
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Chairperson Jonathan asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposal.
MR. DICK BAXLEY, 38-395 Nasturtium in Palm Desert, stated that he
was speaking on behalf of the applicant and hoped that the commission
would approve the project.
Chairperson Jonathan closed the public hearing and asked for commission
comments.
Commissioner Campbell stated that it was a beautiful building and was a great
location for it. She moved for approval.
Commissioner Beaty felt it was too nice to be a Jiffy Lube. He seconded the
motion.
Chairperson Jonathan said he would like to add his compliments to the
Architectural Review Commission that he thought might have had a hand in
the beautiful design. He hoped they would see it soon and the commission
appreciated their good efforts. Commissioner Campbell said they were going
to want all of them to look like this. Mr. Drell said it was the first one they've
ever approved in the city. There was once one proposed behind the Toy's R
Us building that ended up getting denied. Chairperson Jonathan asked if there
was further discussion.
Commissioner Finerty thought it was a beautiful building, but she felt that Jiffy
Lube or a similar facility could be more appropriately placed in the service
industrial zone and would recommend west of Select Properties at Country
Club and Washington. Jiffy Lube or another similar organization in her opinion
was not the vision of the city; she thought it was best suited in a center where
there were grocery stores and drug stores. She would be voting against it.
Chairperson Jonathan called for the vote.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner Beaty,
approving the findings as presented by staff. Motion carried 4-1
(Commissioner Finerty voted no).
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It was moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner Beaty,
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 1953, approving PP 99-13,
subject to conditions. Motion carried 4-1 (Commissioner Finerty voted no).
IX. MISCELLANEOUS
A. REQUEST FOR DETERMINATION OF GENERAL PLAN CONFORMITY
FOR STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY AND PUBLIC SERVICE EASEMENT
ABANDONMENT FOR DESERT COUNTRY CIRCLE AND PALMA VISTA
UNIT NO. 1
Mr. Drell noted that the commission had a report from the City Engineer. He
said that typically the city received right-of-ways from property owners for
specific purposes. The City Engineer had concluded that these were no longer
necessary and were recommending that they be abandoned back to the
original property owner.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Lopez, seconded by Commissioner Campbell,
determining that the subject street right-of-way and public service easement
abandonment is in conformity with the Palm Desert General Plan. Motion
carried 5-0.
X. COMMITTEE MEETING UPDATES
A. ART IN PUBLIC PLACES - (No meeting)
B. CIVIC CENTER STEERING COMMITTEE - (No meeting)
C. DESERT WILLOW COMMITTEE - (October 19, 1999)
Commissioner Finerty said there was good news to report. They had
a draft agreement for a potential four star hotel. Potential operators
might be Four Seasons or Regent. They were looking at about 375
rooms. If this deal should fall through, although this company recently
sold the Loew's in Santa Monica and another hotel in Boca Raton, but
if it did fall through, Hilton, who recently bought out Proemus, was
ready to step in. It would be located to the east of the clubhouse. Both
companies were interested in reserving the right for the other parcel
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west of the clubhouse. Commissioner Lopez asked if it was the land on
Portola. Mr. Drell said no, there were two properties directly on either
side of the clubhouse in the interior. The first one was what we used
to call the conference center site. They were requesting an a five-year
option on the second site. There would probably be some provisions
that given certain occupancy rates, they would have to execute that
option or lose it. If they were doing great, they would be encouraged
to proceed with the second one. Commissioner Finerty said they were
looking to close escrow by June of 2000. Commissioner Campbell
asked what the opening date of the clubhouse was. Commissioner
Finerty said it was January 15, 2000.
D. PROJECT AREA 4 COMMITTEE - (October 18, 1999)
Commissioner Finerty informed commission that the meeting was
basically informational. The walls were progressing nicely down Hovley
Lane. It was much appreciated by all of the people in the surrounding
area. Washington was being widened. Work began yesterday. They
had a lot of work to do in p short amount of time and they were asking
everyone to stay off of Washington so they could get this work
accomplished. There would be six lanes. Three in each direction with
right and left turn lanes in each of the four quadrants. It should be
great and hoped they would get it done in time for the tennis
tournament. It went from 1-10 to Highway 1 1 1 .
E. PALM DESERT/RANCHO MIRAGE MONTEREY AVENUE CORRIDOR
PLANNING WORK GROUP - (No meeting)
F. ZONING ORDINANCE REVIEW COMMITTEE - (No meeting)
XI. COMMENTS
Commissioner Lopez asked if there were any plans to do a wall along Fred
Waring similar to Hovley Lane for the homes on the north side. Commissioner
Finerty stated that because most of the walls along Fred Waring were not in
disrepair as they were on Hovley, the plan was to install a sidewalk and then
a retaining wall where they would then have landscaping that would hide the
variety of walls they had. It would be made to look much better and she
thought they were anticipating going out to bid fairly soon on that.
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Commissioner Lopez said it was really remarkable how nice that wall was.
Commissioner Finerty concurred and noted that it only took four years.
XII. ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner Beaty,
adjourning the meeting by minute motion. Motion carried 5-0. The meeting
was adjourned at 8:10 p.m.
PHIL P DRELL, ecre ary
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SABBY JONATHA , Chairperson
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