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I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Campbell called the meeting to order at 7:01 p.m.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Tschopp led in the pledge of allegiance.
III. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Sonia Campbell, Chairperson
Sabby Jonathan, Vice Chairperson
Cindy Finerty
Jim Lopez
�,,, Dave Tschopp
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Phil Drell, Director of Community Development
Bob Hargreaves, City Attorney
Steve Smith, Planning Manager
Mark Diercks, Transportation Engineer
Tonya Monroe, Administrative Secretary
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Consideration of the April 15, 2003 meeting minutes.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Finerty, seconded by Commissioner
Lopez, approving the April 15, 2003 minutes. Motion carried 4-0-1
(Commissioner Tschopp abstained►.
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V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION �i
Mr. Drell summarized pertinent April 24, 2003 City Council actions.
VI. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None.
V11. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Case No. PMW 03-08 - CHARLES HENDERSON AND LOUIS J.
D'AMBROSIA, Applicants
Request for approval of a parcel map waiver to allow a lot
line adjustment between properties located at 48-884
Mariposa Drive and 48-878 Mariposa Drive.
' Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Commissioner
Finerty, approving PMW 03-08 by minute motion. Motion carried 5-0. �
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B. Case No. PMW 03-06 - THE RESERVE COMMUNITY
ASSOCIATION, INC., Applicant
Request for approval of a parcel map waiver to allow lot
consolidations within the Reserve (identified as Lots F, G
and a portion of B of Tract 27710-1 )
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Finerty, seconded by Commissioner
Jonathan, approving PMW 03-06 by minute motion. Motion carried 5-0.
VIII. PUBLIC HEARINGS
Anyone who challenges any hearing matter in court may be limited to
raising only those issues he, she or someone else raised at the public
hearing described herein, or in written correspondence delivered to the
Planning Commission at, or prior to, the public hearing.
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�"' A. Case Nos. GPA 03-02, C/Z 03-01 and PP 03-05 - JAMES AND
LUCILLE FEIRO, ET.AL., Applicants
(Continued from April 1 , 2003)
Request for approval of a general plan amendment from
residential (medium density 5-7 units per acre) to office
professional, a change of zone from R-1 13,000 to O.P.
(Office Professional), a precise plan of design for a 3,000
square foot single storey office building, and a Negative
Declaration of Environmental Impact as it relates thereto.
The general plan amendment and change of zone apply to
three lots on the west side of Deep Canyon Road: 44-605,
44-655 and 44-675 Deep Canyon Road. Precise plan of
design applies to property at the northwest corner of
Ramona and Deep Canyon Road, known as 44-605 Deep
Canyon Road.
Mr. Drell explained that the applicant was still working to redesign the
project to meet the Public Works street widening requirements. Staff was
recommending a continuance to June 3, 2003.
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Chairperson Campbell noted that the public hearing was still open from
April 1 and invited anyone to address the commission. There being no
one, Chairperson Campbell asked for a motion of continuance to June 3,
2003.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Finerty, seconded by Commissioner
Lopez, by minute motion continuing this matter to June 3, 2003. Motion
carried 5-0.
B. Case Nos. C/Z 03-02, PP/CUP 03-03, TPM 31350 and DA 03-01 -
JEWISH SENIOR COMMUNITY OF THE DESERT FOUNDATION,
Applicant
Request for approval of a change of zone from PR-5 to PR-5
S.O. (Senior Overlay), a precise plan/conditional use permit
for a 55-unit two-story senior assisted living housing
facility, a tentative parcel map to subdivide the site into two
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parcels, a development agreement to restrict development �
and operation of the residential facility and a Negative
Declaration of Environmental Impact as it relates thereto for
the project located at Temple Sinai, 73-251 Hovley Lane.
Mr. Smith explained that correspondence was circulated to the
commission from Richard O'Donnell, petitions against the proposal from
Marlene LeBost, Henry LeBost, Ross and Diane Bloom, Bruce M. Gottlieb,
Patricia Vanderpool, Barbara Jenkins, Josef Braig, a letter from Kevin and
Gloria Winter, and a letter from Jerry Wiley.
Mr. Smith pointed out the site plan on display and explained that the
property was located on the south side of Hovley Lane between
Monterey and Portola at the Temple Sinai site. The applicant was seeking
approval to permit a 55-unit, two-story senior assisted living housing
project on the westerly portion of the property. He said that the project
received preliminary architectural approval from the Architectural Review
Commission (ARC).
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Mr. Smith stated that they received considerable neighborhood response
from the circulation of the legal notice. Neighbors questioned project
density, traffic, height, noise and other matters. As of the writing of the
staff report, the applicant had not and still had not presented an
affordable housing program component fo� inclusion in the development
agreement. Also at the time he wrote the report, he hadn't yet received
the parking and traffic study which was received the day before and
circulated to commission at the meeting. Without the completed
development agreement information, staff was not prepared to go
forward with a recommendation. Accordingly, staff was recommending
a continuance of the matter. The purpose of this hearing was to better
identify the issues of neighborhood concern. He stated that he would
briefly go over the project and then the project architect had a power
point presentation to make for the commission.
Mr. Smith described the project in detail, including a review of the
parking being required and provided. He noted that a parking study had
been conducted by Urban Crossroads which was distributed to
commission just prior to the meeting as mentioned earlier. He discussed
site intensity, height and setbacks. He stated that the building §
architecture received preliminary approval from the Architectural Review
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ARC meeting staff expressed concern with the architecture, specifically
that it appeared to be more of an office institutional {ook rather than
residential. Staff felt the architecture should be more residential in
character. ARC granted preliminary approval of the plans that were
before the commission. He stated that project landscaping would be
consistent with the Desert Willow theme and that also received
preliminary ARC approval.
Mr. Smith explained that the project required a change of zone to add the
Senior Overlay. Senior Overlay was designed to provide increased density
and special development standards to encourage the development of
various forms of senior housing in the city. When the overlay was
created, it was anticipated that senior projects would be requesting
densities in excess of 20 units per acre. Due to the significantly lower
traffic and other impacts of senior housing, the Senior Overlay allowed
those densities based on population per acre. The project as proposed
would increase the permitted number of units on the 2.56 acres from 13
units to 55 units. Projects between 10 and 100 units under the
Affordable Housing Inclusionary Requirement Mandates must provide a
�"""` minimum of 10% moderate income units and 10% low income units.
Staff had not received a proposal from the applicant as to how they
would address the affordable housing component.
Mr. Smith noted that there was also a parcel map being requested to
create the 2.56 acre parcel and then the remainder. He concluded and
asked for any questions.
Commissioner Tschopp asked how big the school was and how many
parking spaces it required. Mr. Smith explained that the school serves K-
7. He said that when he was out at the site at 2:55 p.m., in the area of
the school and administration section of the Temple there were ten cars
parked. Commissioner Tschopp asked if staff knew if the school was at
attendance capacity right now. Mr. Smith didn't know and indicated that
was something the applicant could respond to. Mr. Drell said that schools
typically weren't in session during the services and were calculated as an
ancillary use. The peak use was either Friday, Saturday or Sunday and
the church use dwarfed the requirement of the school and the weekday
use of the school was easily accommodated by that peak. Commissioner
Tschopp clarified that here they weren't just talking about a church and
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schooi, but a senior project, and school parking could become worse and
that was what he was trying to determine.
Commissioner Jonathan said he wanted to understand the calculation of
the parking, regardless of the actual experience or usage. The facility has
324 existing spaces. According to staff's report, the Temple requirement
is 189 and that is what leaves a 134 parking space surplus. He asked for
clarification on the calculation of 189. He was reading 86 spaces for the
sanctuary and 103 spaces for 3,600 square feet of assembly area. Mr.
Smith said that was correct. It was his understanding that they have
seating for the 257, plus an area of assembly beyond that.
Commissioner Jonathan noted that the demand that staff calculated of
189 did not include the school. Mr. Smith confirmed that it did not.
Assuming that the matter would be continued, Commissioner Jonathan
asked if staff would calculate the total parking demand for all uses
including the school. He understood there would be discussion as to
whether or not that requirement was simultaneous, etc., but he just
wanted to understand the demand for each component.
Commissioner Jonathan noted that the commission was just given the
parking and traffic study at the meeting so he had not had a chance to
review it, but he would before the next meeting. His question was if staff
knew whether or not the parking analysis addressed the parking and
traffic impact of the 13 homes versus 55 senior units. He asked if that
was addressed in the analysis or if staff had considered that. Mr. Smith
didn't believe they did that analysis. He said staff typically looked at 10.1
on a single family residence. Commissioner Jonathan clarified that was
10.1 trips per day on a single family residence. Mr. Smith concurred.
Commissioner Jonathan noted that 10.1 times 13 would be around 130-
131 . He asked what it would be on the 55 units. The answer was 191
per day. Commissioner Jonathan noted that the conclusion would be that
the traffic impact of 13 residential units would be greater than the traffic
impact of 55 senior units. Mr. Smith said that was right.
Regarding the architecture, Commissioner Jonathan noted that staff
continued to feel that the architecture was not sufficiently residentially
oriented. He asked if it would be staff's recommendation that, if the
commission agreed with that conclusion, that the design issues go back
to ARC for further consideration of what staff's recommendation was, ��
specifically with regard to the architecture. Mr. Drell said there were two
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�" perspectives. If the commission agreed with that position and was
otherwise inclined to approve the project, then they could refer it with
comment back to ARC for them to look at it. There had been some
discussion since that meeting that there might be some virtue in it
looking more like an extension of the Temple and not look like housing
since the current use of the property was institutional / educational /
religious. Having an ambiguous building that looks like an extension of
that might be a positive design aspect relative to compatibility. Ultimately
it was an aesthetic judgement as to whether they felt it was appropriate
or inappropriate and if they wanted ARC to take another look at it.
Commissioner Jonathan said he didn't know how he or the commission
felt about the architecture yet, so hypothetically if they wanted an
architectural redesign, he assumed they would be able to reserve the
ability to look at the enhanced or modified architecture before giving final
approval. Mr. Drell said yes, especially if it was in response to the input
from this hearing. Architectural Commission did not have that input.
Mr. Diercks clarified the traffic counts. It was determined that 13
residential units would generate 130 trips and 55 senior units would
�"'" generate 191 trips per day. Weekday trips. Mr. Drell said that one trip
was from there to a destination and a second trip was counted for the
trip back. So one car going to and fro generated two trips.
Chairperson Campbell noted that they were talking about the parking
spaces for the project having a maximum of 56. She asked about the
employees working there including the dining room, the kitchen, the other
facilities and how many employees that would entail and how many
parking spaces they would be using. Mr. Smith explained that the parking
provision in the code assumed that of 55 spaces required, that would
also take care of the employee component. He had been running counts
at Palm Desert Villas across from the Senior Center at Catalina and San
Pascual. It was a 77-unit project and they put in 59 parking spaces. They
had been averaging 21 cars in the lot. Today at 3:30 p.m. there were 22
cars. He said they could see the residential component at one place and
the employee cars in another area closer to the entrance. He said it
seemed the code took that into account. Chairperson Campbell asked if
Mr. Smith was assuming that these people didn't all have cars. Mr.
Smith said it had been staff's experience. Mr. Drell noted that this is an
assisted living project and these were people who needed assistance for
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daily activities like dressing, eating and bathing. A large portion didn't
have a car to begin with and for better or worse, as the project aged, the
number of cars would decrease and the cars that were there typically
didn't move very often other than the employee cars.
Chairperson Campbell opened the public hearing. She noted that staff
was recommending that this matter be continued to June 3. She asked
if the applicant wished to address the commission.
MS. JEAN CHARRUS, President of Senior Housing Development,
addressed the commission. She said she represented the proposed
project. She stated that they are a non-profit independent
foundation looking to purchase the land at Temple Sinai, but they
weren't in partnership with Temple Sinai. She wanted that clearly
understood.
Their mission statement was that the Senior Community of the
Desert was a not-for-profit charitable organization providing a
continuum of services to seniors in an environment that promoted �
wellness, choice and innovation. This was a project that was
thought of some 30 years ago by a gentleman that lived in the
desert and died in the desert and left a small amount of money in
a trust account which was handled by a trustee. This was the
money that was brought to them to think about promoting senior
assisted care housing for their citizens so that they would have an
environment to grow into their senior years with dignity. She said
this wasn't a party house, this was not a transient house, this was
not a hotel. These were people who would live and live quietly
within this domain. They just wanted to have the ability to provide
this kind of an environment for a 55-unit building allowing 20% for
scholarship for some people who don't have the means to live in
dignity to the end of their days and they wished to provide that
opportunity.
There weren't cars for everyone living in assisted care housing.
That was why the amount of traffic that had been talked about
was more than adequate and overstated. She didn't think they
would have a need for that much. She was sure that if her mother
was living there she would want to visit her and if she came in on �
a Sunday or Saturday she would drive a car onto the property to
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�» visit her parent. That was probably the most traffic they would
see. From company coming to visit. These people weren't infirm
by any means. Assisted care didn't mean nursing care, it meant
people who are ambulatory and can function but need some help
in perhaps taking their medication and perhaps bathing. But this
was not a nursing home.
The ambience of the project would be elegant, it would be
beautifulty landscaped, and it would be described by Pam
Touschner, their architect from WWCOT. Ms. Charrus stated that
she herself was a resident of the desert and was very active in this
community and would never lend her name to anything she didn't
respect or have good feelings about. She thanked the commission.
MS. PAM TOUSCHNER, of WWCOT, addressed the commission.
She said she was also a resident of Palm Desert. Using a power
point presentation, she showed the commission the site and
described the project and its goals. She said it was very important
that they fit in with the neighborhood, that they work with a
campus concept, that they acknowledge the fact that there is a
�' school there, and that the type of individuals they were building
for provided a synergy between this kind of project and a school
and that they work within the codes in terms of height. They
didn't want to go any higher than what was proposed, so they
knew they would have a very flat, horizontal type building. They
really wanted to also acknowledge the concerns of the climate.
They wanted to make sure there were overhangs and spaces for
shade so that someone could stop and rest. They also didn't want
a lot of ramps, stairs or mobility issues.
She showed the first floor plan with the landscaping. She said
when they started to design this project they wanted to make sure
that all the units had access to the outside or some type of
balcony if they were on the second floor. At the front door was
where they had a drop off and entrance to administration. She
showed where the services would be located and that included
offices and the kitchen. She described the buildings as fingers with
some units. She showed the location of the dining and multi-
purpose area that opened to a dining courtyard. There was a pool.
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She said there was a total of three courtyards that they centered ''�
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the units around.
Another aesthetic issue was along the side where they placed a
bocce ball court and some other types of outdoor activities which
go into a walkway that allowed walking for exercise around the
project. She showed the location of the school and existing play
area that they would maintain and explained that they designed a
porch on the first and second floors to allow for people to sit there
and engage with the school and watch the kids playing. In the
lower play area, kids could play with kids that were visiting or
children from the school.
She showed the location of the fire access that they were required
to have by code. What they did was incorporate what was
required for the school and the housing together. It was combined
and they reduced the amount of hardscape. They had a hammer
head at the end of that fire access. She said it could also serve the
residences on the other side and a fire truck to come back out.
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Next came the second floor plan. She pointed out the location of �
the roofs of the first floor. She stated that from their property line
back to the face of the building, that was 100 feet before the
second story started. To the west of the building, she showed the
property line and said they were setback 120 feet and an
additional 27 feet to the face of the units. The second floor
component was exceptionally small and was half or less of the
surface area and they had quite a bit of setback from both the
street and the residences. The units on the first floor didn't have
windows on the west elevation so no one could look out on the
residences next door. She said everything was in a north and
south direction.
She showed elevations facing Hovley and explained that the
second story was setback 100 feet from the street. The first story
was 1 1 feet and then dotted in behind was the higher element.
Next was the east elevation, the entrance to the project, the
street, and the second floor component. The balconies were
grouped together. It was a shading device that served as an
architectural element and also allowed for shading on the ;;�
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�r balconies. She said there were some differences in terms of
materials and color. Some of the low walls were block and stone
and the base of the building was stucco.
On the south elevation, there was a patio where a person could
look out onto the school. The second story at that point was 147
feet from the wall of the residence.
Ms Touschner showed the west elevation and the second story
looking toward the west. She pointed out the closest piece of the
building to the residence and all of that was setback 120 feet. She
also showed a section through the site as well as the location of
the existing one-story housing, the backyard, an existing six-foot
wall, and then the 27'8" to the beginning of the first floor of the
building and then where they were at 157. That gave them a
sense of the relationship. She said there was a person on a second
floor balcony and some lines which were the view lines that
someone would see standing from those balconies. Anyone
standing there was actually looking onto the �oof of the one-sto�y
residence.
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She then showed a picture of the site from Hovley and a picture
of what the building would look like in that location. It was a
computerized model and then there was a composite of the two
images. It showed the existing landscaping and they wanted to
keep the mature trees. They also added new trees. She said that
would give them a sense of what the building would look like
given the landscaping there now and what they were proposing.
She asked for any questions.
Commissioner Lopez said he went to the site and looked at the existing
Temple and school and what people might see when they were driving
down the street. He thought the proposed architecture didn't really fit in
with the residential, stucco, red tile roofs that exist in the entire
neighborhood. He wasn't sure it really fit in with the Temple and school
either. He asked what her intent was when she designed it.
Ms. Touschner said they wanted the architecture to match both
the surroundings, the Temple and the school. At one point they
were using the same colors of the Temple on the building.
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Architectural Review suggested that they use the same colors and �
just express that it was a different building. That was when they
started to look at putting in some walls that had some colors on
it. The base color was similar to what was being used at the
Temple and on the school, so there was some compatibility there.
But then they introduced a new color onto some of the walls to
break it up and make it look different. She thought that made it
look more residential and was much more characteristic of what
happened at these types of projects and apartment buildings.
Mr. Smith distributed a material sample board to the commission.
Ms. Touschner said that in terms of the red-roofed houses, they
didn't have the luxury of the height to do a red roof. To take that
particular design element and copy that from the neighborhood
wasn't something they were able to do. Homes could actually go
to a higher height because of that and allowed them to do that.
But they wouldn't be able to do that with the two-story
component. �
She said they showed the Foundation different drawings and
different pictures of built projects so they could get a sense of
what they were talking about from an architectural point of view.
What kept coming up was contemporary. They were really looking
for something that was more contemporary and dealt with the
neighborhood. She stated that there were many contemporary
homes in that neighborhood and not all of them had red roofs.
Commissioner Lopez noted that there was a letter to Mr. Drell with their
staff report and Ms. Touschner went through several topics that were
discussed at the community meeting.
Ms. Touschner explained that they held two different community
meetings. One was at the end of February/early March and last
week they held another one. What was in the letter were the
questions that were asked and she summarized the discussion
they had on the additional elements.
Chairperson Campbell asked Ms. Touschner how she thought the last �
meeting went.
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� Ms. Touschner thought that overall it went very well. They
welcomed the opportunity to explain the project. She thought
some of the criticisms were really from people who didn't know
the project or didn't understand it. If someone didn't know
anything about the project, it could be scary. She said there were
a lot of comparisons made to other projects in the area or in the
city of Palm Desert and they were able to say, no, they were not
type of facility. Someone spoke earlier and said these were people
who needed help with dressing. She said that was not the case.
It was really about medication management and they might need
a little assistance in terms of preparing their food and those kinds
of things. But if they needed to be helped physically, two
individuals taking them out of a wheel chair or anything along
those lines, then this was not the type of facility they would be at.
She said they welcomed the opportunity to explain what type of
facility this was and that these were really active, healthy adults
that were just looking for an alternative way of living.
Chairperson Campbell asked if any comments were made about the
architecture by the residents.
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Ms. Touschner said there was nothing negative.
Ms. Charrus stated that she received a letter that she wanted to
submit for the record in support of the project Isee Harold Rabin
letter attached hereto as Exhibit A►. She also received a number of
calls and was happy to give them information about the project.
Commissioner Tschopp noted that the Senior Overlay allowed the project
to go from 13 units to 55 units. He asked if Ms. Charrus was conducting
an economic feasibility study to see if that was going to work
economically to fill the units with people age 62 and older.
Ms. Charrus stated that going by what currently exists in the
desert and other establishments in Rancho Mirage and Palm
Desert, she said they were one of the smaller units and it did take
some time to establish a reputation and recommendation, which
was word of mouth, but there were many people they knew of in
the scholarship area that were readily available for immediate
housing. They didn't intend to do anything precipitously. They
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would see that they were properly financed and that they have a
good fiscal plan and that they do a fund raising campaign. She said
they really wanted to do this in a healthy manner so that they
meet all their responsibilities to the people who live there and to
the neighborhood in general.
Commissioner Tschopp asked if she was aware of the difficulties other
housing projects in the Senior Overlay have had in trying to fill their
rooms.
' Ms. Charrus said yes, but they were on a larger scale and it took
a bit longer for them. In this instance, the professionals who gave
their estimate thought it would take between six months to a year
to accommodate all 55 units. It might take longer, but it might
take less, and financially they had to be prepared for that.
Commissioner Tschopp noted that the low to moderate income
requirements require 20%, or approximately 1 1 units, to be set aside and
he asked if she believed that was something that would work. .�
Ms. Charrus said yes, it would. That was what they anticipated �
doing and it was the dream of the gentleman who left them the
money in the first place. For this to be part of the mix. That was
what started them off and she hoped they could get to the point
where those numbers would increase in time. Initially they needed
paying guests.
Speaking from past Planning Commission experience, Commissioner
Tschopp said that if this project was approved, he hoped the commission
would not see them back in the future asking for the Senior Overlay to
be relieved. He explained that the commission has seen other projects
built in the Senior Overly come back stating that they can't rent the units
because of the age 62 age requirement and requesting to decrease the
age to age 55 or provide other relief for them.
Ms. Charrus informed commission that she is involved with the
Good Samaritans of the Desert and a number of different
organizations that were "champing at the bit" and people called
her all the time wanting to know if this was their next residence.
She said she really was not terribly concemed. They just needed
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�,,, to be prepared to carry themselves for a logical period of time. She
couldn't anticipate the future about changing overlays, but they
would make every endeavor to be fully rented and to care for their
people in a dignified manner.
Chairperson Campbell asked for testimony in FAVOR of the proposal.
There was no one. Chairperson Campbell asked if anyone wished to
speak in OPPOSITION. She noted that she had a Request to Speak card
from Mr. Jerry Wiley and invited him to address the commission first.
MR. JERRY WILEY, 40-900 Avenida Estrada in Palm Desert,
addressed the commission. He stated that he had a couple of
clarifications for Mr. Smith and Ms. Charrus before getting into his
brief presentation.
Chairperson Campbell requested that speakers refrain their comments to
five minutes. There were many people present and she also requested
that they not be repetitious.
Mr. Wiley said he understood completely. He condensed his
�w presentation from basically seven or eight pages to three, but felt
the first clarification questions should not apply toward the five
minutes.
He asked Mr. Smith how many square feet the p�oposed 55-unit
senior housing complex was.
Mr. Smith said he didn't know. Mr. Drell asked the architect. Ms. Charrus
spoke from the audience and said slightly under 70,000 square feet.
In looking at the plans, Mr. Wiley noted that the kitchen, which
was a full service kitchen, looked extremely large and asked how
many square feet the kitchen area was.
Mr. Drell said that while the architect was doing the calculation, Mr.
Wiley should proceed.
Mr. Wiley asked if the kitchen would serve three meals per day.
Mr. Drell said yes.
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Mr. Wiley asked Ms. Charrus for the definition of scholarship.
Mr. Drell explained that technically, the City defined in the ordinance
what affordable housing was, so it was really a City definition, meaning
a City requirement, which was most important. That was an issue they
acknowledged had not been determined yet, especially in a project like
this where historically they've had a hard determining, given the level of
services provided, what is affordable. That was part of the reason it had
not yet been determined and why they hoped to have a better answer
at the next hearing.
Mr. Wiley reiterated that what Mr. Drell was saying was that the
scholarship and low income meant the same thing.
Mr. Drell said that was correct. Scholarship meant assistance; people
paying less than market rate for the units.
Mr. Wiley noted that in Ms. Charrus' opening statement, she said
they would have ambulatory patients there. He asked if that was
correct.
Ms. Charrus said ambulatory residents. This wasn't a hospital.
Mr. Wiley asked if that meant the same thing as a nursing home.
Ms. Charrus said no.
Mr. Drell explained that ambulatory meant the person was able to walk
under their own power. These are people who aren't confined to a
wheelchair. These facilities are licensed under the State as residential
facilities. They weren't licensed or regulated as medical facilities. They
were still on the residential side of land use, not medical.
Mr. Wiley thanked them both for that clarification.
Ms. Charrus indicated that the kitchen was approximately 2,000
square feet.
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� Proceeding with his presentation, Mr. Wiley noted that three or
four years ago there was a similar proposal before the Planning
Commission. The proposal at that time was to build an Alzheimer's
senior assisted facility at the corner of West Hovley and Monterey
Avenue. With the help of the residents in the area and the
commission, that was defeated and he was proud to say there
were some beautiful homes there now. He said they were very
nice and were $375,000 to 5400,000. That area was known as
Hovley Court and he thanked the commission for their expertise
and vote in that matter. He believed at that time the vote was 5-0
to reject the PR-5 zone change.
Mr. Wiley stated that he received the first letter from Temple Sinai
and the first letter to the homeowners about the preschool, and
they committed to all the residents that attended that they would
be a good neighbor. The second letter he received from Temple
Sinai again promised that they would be a good neighbor. He said
that in fact Temple Sinai over the past two or three years has been
a bad neighbor. The way the church had been a bad neighbor was
noise, kids screaming, teachers yelling at kids, parents honking
�'' horns and yelling at kids, and increased traffic flow on Hovley. It
took the area residents two or three years to get the grass, trees
and shrubs planted that the Temple promised would be there
before the preschool opened. That did not happen. It took
approximately another two years for the church to put in the
grass, trees and shrubs.
The Air Quality Management District came down and inspected
them. Sand was blowing in everyone's pools adjacent to their
property. They were warned. He didn't know if they were cited or
not. Shortly thereafter they put in the grass. They had violations
of the conditional use permit. He said he had a letter from Phil
Drell if anyone wanted to take a look at it after the meeting. He
said it listed all the conditional use permits that Temple Sinai had
committed during that brief two or three year period.
Mr. Wiley stated that the proposed PR-5 CUP change was totally
unacceptable to the overwhelming majority of area residents. He
felt this commercial project should be built elsewhere in a
commercial zone. Increased traffic, cars, service trucks, food
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delivery for a complete service kitchen, mostly noisy, stinky, diesel
trucks. The recommendation of himself and the concerned area
residents was no on a PR-5 zone change. No on any conditional
use permit and no, no, no to the commercial, two story 55-unit
development in their neighborhood. He thanked the commission.
Referring to the other Request to Speak card that was turned in,
Chairperson Campbell asked Mr. Bob Lea to address the commission.
MR. BOB LEA, 40-780 Avenida Estrada in Palm Desert, passed out
a letter to the commission. He explained that it was information
regarding the proposal and an example of a petition that was
circulated in the neighborhood (see the letter and blank petition
submitted attached hereto as Exhibit B). He showed the
commission a stack of papers and stated that in his hand were
315 petitions against the project. Mr. Lea stated that of those
people they were actually able to see, some were for it and some
were against the proposal. Ninety-four percent (94%) of the
people responding to their survey were totally against this project.
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He heard it said that the proposal of the Jewish Senior Community �
Foundation had been on the drawing board for more than one year.
He thought it seemed strange that none of his neighbors learned
of it until just days ago or possibly two weeks ago as he did.
Why? Why wasn't the pulse of the neighborhood obtained earlier?
Why weren't his neighbors informed? Or developers? Or real estate
agents who could fully inform prospective home buyers what was
brewing in the neighborhood? He asked why.
Two. He heard it said that there was a need for senior assisted
living facilities. That might or might not be true. But he could say
it was a terrible thing that someone would deliberately choose to
build in the middle of an upscale new residential neighborhood. No
businesses were on Hovley Lane West from Monterey to Portola.
There was only the Temple and the elementary school. The
nearest commercial building was a mile away, a shopping center
on Country Club and Monterey. He didn't believe that the valley
has been that fully developed that there was only one piece of land
remaining and that property was on Hovley Lane West. �
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� Three. He heard it said that the facility needs to be build on
Temple property because the land could be purchased much lower
than elsewhere and subsequently the rents charged would be
lower. However, the government subsidized units also alleviated
the problem anywhere the facility was built, not just on Hovley
Lane. Even so, those weren't valid reasons to build a commercial
building in a 100% residential neighborhood. Property was
available in other areas of the city and in the valley where similar
facilities were already located.
Four. He had heard it said that the residents of the senior assisted
living facility wanted to be located near school children to watch
them play. He said watching them play was one thing, but children
at play typically scream with high pitched voices and make
excessively loud noises. These were irritating, disturbing and
annoying to one's ears and nerves. He said he knew because he
heard them during the school hours and it wasn't very relaxing. He
thought that most other senior citizens would agree with him.
Five. He said he had in his hand petitions signed by over 300
�"` people, about 315 in the neighborhood that strongly opposed this
proposal. They canvassed the Hovley West neighborhood and in
that canvass they found that 94% of the people adamantly oppose
the construction of a senior assisted living facility in the
neighborhood. Most of them were absolutely furious about the
proposal. Many stated that they would not have purchased a home
here had they known such a facility was to be built. They want
the zoning to remain as their neighborhood now is, PR-5. They
knew that traffic and noise would increase greatly and they were
afraid to see what could be on the horizon later on. They were also
aware that once such a building was erected, the door was open
for expansion of more buildings on Hovley. That was totally
unacceptable.
In summary, no matter what the arguments were for building the
facility, one for seniors needing assisted care, it simply didn't
belong, nor did it fit in this neighborhood. If it did not fit, then
neither minor flaws in language or refining details on definitions of
low income housing changed their position whatsoever. The
results of any further studies or delays were moot. He stated that
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he was strongly against the proposal. And not just him, but more
than 300 of his neighbors. He thanked the commission.
MR. ERNIE SHAFFER, 40588 Diamondback Drive in Palm Desert,
informed commission that his street was immediately north of the
project and was curiously omitted on all of the maps he had seen
at the meeting. He stated that he was present in a dual role. As a
resident of the community and also the Executive Director and
General Manager of Brighton Gardens of Rancho Mirage which is
an assisted living and skilled nursing facility.
He thought it was a beautiful project. Being in the business for 22
years, he saw the vision and thought it needed to be built, just not
in this location. He stated that he was before City Council about
four years ago almost saying the identical things that Ms. Charrus
said this evening. Believing that there was a need, believing that
they would fill the senior living facility within six months to a year.
However, they have been in operation for over 2.5 years and they
remain between 50% and 60% occupancy. �
Between December of 1999 and December of 2000, over 450 „�
assisted living units became available between the cities of Palm
Desert and Rancho Mirage. They were all struggling. The need is
there, but it wasn't being filled in the assisted living facilities. This
area had an abundance of home care and there was also an
economic status that allowed people to stay at home with
companions, 24-hour care, home care, etc. To add another 55
units, even 55 units, would not make sense in an already
saturated market. He noted that Marriott International opened
Brighton Gardens of Rancho Mirage. The feasibility study they did
when they began the project showed that it would take until the
year 2005 for them to fill it. In other words, Marriott was willing
to subsidize for five years knowing that was how long it would
take to fill. Marriott sold all of its senior living properties about two
months ago. If Marriott International couldn't make a go of it, not
only in this market but across the country, he was curious how
anyone else could. He was personally familiar with two owner-
operators in the Palm Desert and Rancho Mirage area that were
currently going out of business.
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� Another issue he wanted to address was the definition of
ambulatory. This facility would be licensed by the Department of
Social Services and being intimately familiar with Title 22 which
was the California code that governed senior assisted living
facilities, the definition of ambulatory didn't mean they couldn't
walk. The definition of ambulatory meant they have the ability and
the cognitive status to remove themselves from a dangerous
situation in the event of an emergency in the building. They did not
need to be ambulatory in the sense that they could walk.
He also wanted to clarify that 2.5 years ago when Brighton
Gardens opened, they had several "independent" seniors. He was
here to tell them 2.5 years later that it was nursing care. It was
going to continue to be nursing care. The residents that he cared
for in his assisted living project were the skilled nursing residents
of five years ago. He has been in this business for 22 years and
had seen the trends. Even if it didn't start out as a nursing facility,
it would end up as a nursing facility.
Traffic would include commercial deliveries, employees based on
`�""' the amount of residents and he anticipated between 35 and 40
employees, give or take per shift, family members and visitors.
And there would be a lot. Emergency vehicles, home health,
visiting nurses, medical staff, pharmacy deliveries, and he said the
list went on and on.
At this point he was opposed to this project as a homeowner and
as an assisted living operator. He thanked the commission.
MS. DEBBIE PERRY, 40800 Avenida Estrada, addressed the
commission. She said there were a couple of issues she wanted to
discuss that she had heard at the meeting. Her backyard backed
up right to the synagogue. She wanted to make it very clear that
the children she heard had never screamed. The children she heard
were extremely happy, they were very well adjusted, they played,
they learned from their teachers, and it was a pteasant
environment to hear them. What disturbed her terribly as a parent
and grandparent was to put an adult facility on the same property
as a children's school. With the employees and the people living
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there, she didn't think they had a right to be on the facility as
children that were learning in a school environment.
She didn't think the facility belonged in their community. But she
thought the synagogue had done a beautiful job in the way it had
built this facility, maintained the facility and the children that went
there were delightful. She thanked the commission.
MR. LARRY HADDOCK, 40755 Avenida Arcada off Hovley Lane
West, addressed the commission. He said he wanted to point out
a few things. First of all, if this council rejected the Alzheimer's
center along Monterey on its own separate parcel, which he
believed was quite a bit bigger parcel, he asked why the council
would even consider approving this project as it was proposed to
be crammed onto this small section of property between the
Temple and the existing homes behind a well area.
Secondly, he didn't think it was any single issue that would kill
this project, but it was a combination of issues they had to take i
into consideration. All the issues together demanded that the :�
project be denied. He thought the planners had a lot more studies ,,,�
to complete and when they completed these studies, they would
find they didn't do ample homework on what it would take in the
ingress and egress area. They wanted to share the driveways with
the Temple for fire trucks which was required when someone was
having some sort of heart failure along with the other emergency
response vehicles, ambulances, the delivery trucks, and the food
service equipment.
He didn't think the project took into account any room for growth
at all in the congregation of the Temple, in the attendance or
expansion of the school, or senior center staff in the future. The
numbers they were presenting now seemed to take the parking
and the ability of that piece of property to handle the ingress and
egress. It was maxed out right now. The Temple had been there
a few years, but as people that have been around Palm Desert
knew, the previous tenant of that building, Southwest Community
Church, totally exceeded the limits of that property after they had
been there five or six years. The growth of that congregation �
caused traffic and parking to spill out onto Hovley Lane on both
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�► sides of the street. People were parking almost down to Portola
and Monterey. They were parking on neighborhood streets on
Estrada and other streets. He didn't see how putting this facility
on that property could allow the Temple to experience its
inevitable growth. He thought it would be irresponsible of this
council to approve such a project that would limit or make it
impossible for the Temple Sinai to handle its inevitable and almost
sure growth as a congregation in the future. He thanked the
commission.
MR. KURT SHUPE, 40905 Avenida Estrada, addressed the
commission. He said Avenida Estrada was immediately west of
this project. As well, he said he is a practicing architect in the city
of Palm Desert with offices on Fred Waring Drive. He felt this
hotel-like structure was really misplaced in his neighborhood. A
70,000 square foot structure in the middle of a neighborhood of
single family homes was out of place. He thought the elevations
that they saw on display were very difficult to read due to the low
contrast and the plans in particular were very hard to discern. But
to him they revealed a very block-like structure that was just not
�" well suited to the neighborhood where the architectural style of
the immediate environment was tile roof, Mediterranean, and it
was peacefully residential in nature.
To him the complete lack of additional parking would bring them
back to the days when Southwest Community Church services
brought considerable parking to the surrounding streets of Hovley
and Avenida Estrada. When the school on this parcel was built and
its roof-mounted mechanical equipment was suddenly visible from
his neighbors' living rooms in the adjacent homes, quite a few of
his neighbors sold their homes and moved elsewhere. The impact
of this two-story project would be much more drastic and it would
destroy the peaceful use of their adjacent homes. He thought this
project belonged on a much larger piece of land in an area of taller
and more densely populated buildings such as on Country Club
Drive or Fred Waring Drive. Putting bocce ball courts and service
drives immediately behind the yard walls of his neighbors' homes
would just destroy their quality of life.
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He stated that he wanted to read a short note from his wife who
couidn't be at the meeting. "To whom it may concern at the City
of Palm Desert. This letter is to advise you that I am completely
against the proposed senior housing project on Hovley Lane West.
As a real estate broker in the community, I do not think the project
would add to our current property values. The parking does not
appear adequate for 55 units plus the Temple services. Please
protect our property values by voting against the proposed project.
Respectfully submitted, Robin Shupe of 40905 Avenida Estrada."
He thanked the commission.
MR. JACK MENZIA, 40-780 Centennial Circle in Palm Desert,
addressed the commission. He thought anything he would say
would be redundant. The only purpose for being at the microphone
now was to ask the commission if it was possible for them as a
commission this evening to not grant a continuance, but kill this
project tonight as it was very obvious that the people in
attendance strongly opposed it. He asked if it was within their
power to not grant the continuance and kill the project tonight so �
that they could all go away relaxed. Then he asked if he was going
to get an answer to that question. �
Commissioner Jonathan explained that it was one of the options before
the commission.
Chairperson Campbell asked if anyone else wished to address the
commission. Chairperson Campbell asked if the applicant had any
rebuttal comments.
Ms. Charrus said she wanted to submit to the council that the
mailing list they got was from the city council. The architectural
firm made the request and she wasn't sure if it was to the title
company or to someone in the city council or city offices for a list
of the names of the residents. The first letter they sent out, which
was to over 300, many came back because addresses were
incorrect or the parties had moved, or the resident/owner lived in
another local. Three members showed up. When they decided on
a second meeting because a lot of people felt left out, they asked
for an updated list and it turned out afte� they made their mailing
that they were told there it was incorrect. The left side was not
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� included and they were given an additional list and that letter was
sent out in plenty of time fo� this commission meeting. She said
she could not go as a party of one around to the neighborhood and
find out every address and name. They asked for a list and the
lists were provided and all of the returned mail they got was
returned to their architectural firm and they would follow up to see
where the errors existed.
She stated that she was sorry to hear that Brighton was not doing
well. She wished it was. She didn't know how many residents live
at Brighton and asked how many people lived there (Mr. Shaffer
said 60.) Regarding the argument about the Temple growing, if the
church grew to such an extent they built a building down near 1-10
on Cook Street or some place down valley, if the Temple was to
do that well, she hoped they would have the same opportunity to
move on to a larger parcel of land and build a new unit.
The campus concept was not a very strange concept. She said she
is a grandparent and enjoys the laughter of her grandchildren. She
could understand upon occasion if children were out playing in the
�"""' yard that they could be disturbing to the residents. She stated that
they have nothing to do with the school nor with the Temple
directly. The concept of being on a campus was very enriching. It
was enriching to children, it was enriching to seniors and the
programming that existed in the Temple could be complementary
to the residents besides the programming that the residents would
have in-house. It would provide for those that would follow that
faith to have a place to go. She said this was a non-sectarian,
Jewish sponsored residence. It was open to anyone. To say that
this was a pariah in the neighborhood was very unkind to senior
citizens. She didn't know how old the people were in the room,
but they would all get old some day and they all might need some
assisted care. She hoped no one would close the door on the face
of anyone that needed it. She said she didn't bring a cheerleading
group with her to applaud everything. She really felt that
consideration should be given to what they said was their ultimate
mission and goal. Being considerate of the neighbors and how they
feel, she had no intention nor did anyone on her board, not to be
a good neighbor or respect the rights of other people and the way
they live. She had nothing but Canadian geese where she lives and
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she would take people over them any day. There were lots of
things that go on in every neighborhood that could create a
problem and they weren't looking to create a problem.
Chairperson Campbell noted that staff was recommending keeping the
public hearing open and continuing this to June 3. She asked for
commission comments.
Commissioner Finerty said she would like to make Mr. Menzia's
suggestion come true. She noted that she has been on the commission
when many projects like this have come before them and she had raised
the issue of saturation several times. She regretted that so many were
struggling. But the big issue here was that commercial didn't belong in
residential. Period. Therefore, there was no need to continue the
application. She commended all of them for getting their group together
and for doing a very good job and not being redundant. She was very
impressed by Mr. Lea. They were very valid points. Mr. Shaffer as well.
She appreciated him sharing his side from the Brighton Gardens point of
view. She said the commission didn't have a resolution of denial, but she
was prepared to move and direct staff to prepare that resolution. '�
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Commissioner Tschopp acknowledged that staff was recommending a
continuance, but the applicant had heard the comments and had not yet
given the city a housing proposal that was required with the application,
so he felt they owed it to the applicant to ask if they v�anted to continue
this to be able to make their package complete, or if after hearing the
community's comments, if they wanted to have the matter decided right
then.
Ms. Charrus spoke from the audience and said they would like a
continuance.
In that case, Commissioner Tschopp thought they should allow a
continuance. But he had a few comments. He thought the project was
very nice. He thought the parking was adequate and that 30 extra car
trips per day was not excessive for a major thoroughfare street like
Hovley and which would become worse. He thought the architect had
done a tremendously good job on the interior of the proposed
development. That would be a nice place for elderly people to live. But .�
he wasn't enamored by the outside. He didn't think it fit with the
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�, neighborhood and looked too much like a commercial building. He didn't
think it complemented the residential homes in the area.
Secondly, economically he didn't think they had done the homework
required to have a facility like this built. There was another gentleman
that spoke on the points he was trying to raise earlier and the concern
was if they build a project like this and it didn't succeed, the applicant
would typically come back looking for a lower age limit to hopefully rent
it out quicker. If that didn't work, they would want to turn it into an
apartment complex and he didn't think that was the intent of the Senior
Overlay. When they came seeking a Senior Overlay, they should have
done their homework and show they can actually make it work
economically and he wasn't convinced they had done that yet.
Lastly, it was very difficult to look favorably on a project when they have
so much of the neighborhood opposed to it. He didn't think they had
done their homework yet with the neighbors in convincing them this is
right. They could continue it and he would be glad to hear it, but he
hoped they would address his concerns before the next meeting.
� Commissioner Lopez thanked everyone for attending. He acknowledged
that there was a lot of emotion and passion in the room pertaining to
people's feelings toward the project itself. Regarding density, he didn't
think this project's density was right for this location. Height and
setbacks were probably fine. The areas of most concern included noise,
and he knew about that since he had had his mom in a couple of places,
and there was a lot of exterior noise from emergency vehicles, etc.
Regarding the vehicle trips per day, 13 houses versus 55 and 130 versus
191 , that was an increase and one that was over and above residential
areas, but Hovley was a huge street and could easily handle this traffic
and it would one day. Because of the way this community is growing,
that was a thoroughfare that is very accessible and drivers miss a lot of
traffic signals compared to Country Club and Fred Waring and Hovley
Lane would continue to get busier. He said he rides his bike down that
road and it was nice right now, but it was going to get busier. He stated
that the issues before them were difficult issues. Staff was
recommending a continuance and the applicant was also recommending
a continuance, but he didn't think even continuing this project would
make a difference. It didn't belong in this particular location. He pointed
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out that this wasn't a popularity thing, so he wasn't looking for any
applause. Speaking frankly, he said there were moments during the
meeting where ladies and gentlemen shouldn't treat other ladies and
gentlemen like they did. He didn't think this project, even with a
continuance, would find enough support and wouldn't address the
questions they had before them. He agreed with Commissioner Finerty
that they should request a resolution of denial.
Commissioner Jonathan thought it would be unfair to the applicant to not
give them an opportunity to really think about the comments they had
heard tonight, both from the neighbors and from the commission. He
thought that in the interest of fairness and justice they owed it to the
applicant, the neighborhood, and the city to give the applications due
course. So he thought it would be preemptive and inappropriate to not
provide that opportunity. He thought the comments made were largely
substantive. He was not a fan of some of the behavior, specifically the
applause and snickering. It didn't do them justice. He knew they were
good people. Other than that, some comments were substantive. But a
few weren't in his mind. To compare this to an Alzheimer's facility was
comparing apples to oranges. To talk about the Temple was irrelevant. �
The Temple was not the applicant. The 55-unit 70,000 square foot �
structure was. Other than purchasing the property from the Temple,
there was no relationship. In his mind, comments about the Temple, the
behavior of the kids, etc., were just irrelevant to this application.
The other comments that had to do with traffic, height, the design, with
impact on lifestyle and so forth were relevant to him and he urged the
applicant to consider those comments because he thought they had
merit. As they look at applications, he thought they had a debt to
existing neighbors to insure, because they were there first, that they not
be unfairly impacted by a new project. He reminded everyone present
that their homes were part of a new project at some point and the
commission heard from their neighbors, some of which didn't want them
there either. So the commission owed that debt to them, as they did to
the neighbors who existed before them. But they also owed a debt to the
overall community.
Whether there was satu�ation in the market for senior housing, assisted
house, he didn't know. No insult was meant, but he wasn't going to trust
the �epresentation of a competitor. But they didn't hear anything to the �
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� contrary from the applicant. So he believed in the forces of a free market
place and he hoped the applicant had in fact done their homework and
determined that there is a need and demand for the product they are
suggesting, but he had not heard anything about that either way from the
applicant.
The architecture was an issue. He thought that a more effective
transitional type of design that took it from a Temple to residential would
be more appropriate. So architecture was an issue, traffic, parking, and
the various other impacts that would occur. In light of all that, he thought
the applicant had now had an opportunity to hear the comments of the
commission, to hear the very real concerns of the neighbors, and he was
in favor of giving the applicant one more opportunity to address those
before he personally arrived at a conclusion.
Chairperson Campbell agreed that they should give the applicant another
opportunity to answer the questions before the commission, to present
a development agreement and to allow commission to study the traffic
information the commission had in front of them. As far as the
architecture was concerned, she didn't think it was the appropriate
� location. It didn't blend in with the neighborhood around Hovley. She
thought it should be more blendable and that they needed to really study
the traffic pattern and the parking situation. She thought the commission
owed it to the applicant to give them an opportunity to address all these
issues and come back again. She asked if there was a motion.
Commissioner Jonathan noted that staff was recommending a
continuance to June 3. He made that motion.
Mr. Lea spoke from the audience calling for a point of order. He
requested that he be given another opportunity to speak.
Chairperson Campbell said no.
Mr. Lea argued that he raised his hand earlier wanting to speak. He
objected to the fact that the applicant had the last word.
Chairperson Campbell explained that the applicant has the last word and
was given the opportunity to offer rebuttal comments. Mr. Lea would
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have the opportunity to speak again June 3. Mr. Drell confirmed that
Chairperson Campbell was correct.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Cornmissioner
Tschopp, by minute motion continuing this matter to June 3, 2003.
Motion carried 3-2 (Commissioners Finerty and Lopez voted no).
Commissioner Jonathan explained that the public hearing was continued
to that meeting so there would be further opportunity for anyone and
everyone to speak.
Mr. Wiley spoke from the audience calling for a point of order. He
asked if Chairperson Campbell was telling him that he couldn't
make a comment at this time.
Chairperson Campbell confirmed that was correct.
(Note: As people were leaving, staff and the City Attorney advised Mr. Lea that he �
had to submit the 315 petitions he said he had if he wanted them to be included as
part of the record. He declined to do so.)
IX. MISCELLANEOUS
None.
X. COMMITTEE MEETING UPDATES
A. ART IN PUBLIC PLACES - (April 16, 2003)
Chairperson Campbell informed the commission that the meeting
was mostly informational in nature.
B. CIVIC CENTER STEERING COMMITTEE - (No meeting)
C. LANDSCAPE COMMITTEE - (April 21 , 2003)
Commissioner Finerty said she was unable to attend.
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D. PROJECT AREA 4 COMMITTEE - (No meeting)
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�r E. ZONING ORDINANCE REVIEW COMMITTEE - (No meeting)
XI. COMMENTS
Commissioner Jonathan noted that a couple of ineetings ago he
mentioned the parking lot issue at Augusta's. He wanted to go on record
that Sunday at 2:20 p.m. he drove by and not only was the Portola
entrance to the parking lot closed off with cones and a car, but so was
the other street. So both entrances to the parking lot were blocked off.
Mr. Diercks said that Mr. Smith mentioned that to him the day before. He
looked at it on the way to the meeting tonight and the same thing was
happening. Portola was coned off and a car was blocking the side street.
Mr. Diercks said he went up to the guy there and handed him his card
and told him to have his boss call him and informed commission that
there would be a letter written within a week to them. He said he would
give a copy to Commissioner Jonathan so that he would know it was
done. Commissioner Jonathan thanked him.
Chairperson Campbell explained that there was a special occasion on
� Sunday. It was a fund raiser for the Animal Sar�aritans from 4:00 p.m.
to 6:00 p.m., so it was a private event that wasn't open to the public.
Commissioner Jonathan said that if that was the only occasion that
would be okay. Mr. Diercks said that it was that way tonight at 6:30
p.m. There was nobody in the parking. There were only three cars there.
So it was something they do all the time.
Commissioner Tschopp said they continually did that to encourage people
to use their valet parking. Sometimes they didn't even use cones and
used cars to block both entrances. Mr. Drell explained that the City's
valet permit system required them to make self parking spaces available.
They had to get a permit from the City and they would not get that
permit if they gave the City a plan which monopolized the entire parking
lot. He said they would be in touch with them. He suggested that they
research the status of that permit and said technically it should be
something they reviewed every year. Mr. Diercks said that each permit
is renewed on a yearly basis. They had to come in and pay 525.00. Mr.
Drell said that at that time they reviewed complaints and compliance and
things that have come up in the past.
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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION MAY 6 2003
XIi. ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Chairperson Campbell, seconded by Commissioner
Tschopp, adjourning the meeting by minute motion. Motion carried 5-0.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:54 p.m.
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April 3, 2003
Dear Jean:
Thank you for the information you gave me regarding the proposed Jewish Senior
Community Housing Development for Palm Desert. My wife and I are active 80 year olds.
However, the time will soon come when we will seek a supportive living environment and
what you describe would be perf'ect. We have relatives that live in The Weinberg Assisted
Living Center in Deerfield (Ilinois and they are extremely satisfied. When our time comes
to seek assisted living we would love to have the same type of facility here in Palm Desert.
We are leaving for home soon. When we return in November ( would like to become an
active supporter of the project. My experience has shown that a Jewish Senior Assisted
Living Center is an asset to the entire Community and should be strongly supported.
t will contact you when we return.
Sincerely yours,
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Dr. Harold Rabin PhD.
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THIS IS A PETITION AGAINST ZONE CHANGES AND CONDITIONAL
USE PERMITS TO BUILD SENIOR HOUSING FACILITY,
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The Jewish Senior Community Foundation of the Desert has proposed the building
of a 55-unit, one and two-story senior housing facility at the front of the Temple
Sinai property on Hovley Lane West.
I am protesting this proposed apartment complex planned for Hovley Lane West to
be built in the middle of new and recendy built single-family homes in a PR-5
zoning area. Sign and da.te below and bring to the Palm Desert Community
Development Department, 73510 Fred Waring Drive, Palm Desert, CA 92260.
Name
Signature:
Address:
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Date:
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Apri130, 2003
Dear Homeowner,
�"` You may or may not be aware that Jewish Senior Community Foundation of the Desert in
cooperation with Temple Sinai is proposing to build a Senior Housing Project. It would be
a 55-unit, one and two story housing facility, located at the front of the temple's property at
73251 Hovley Lane West, between Monterey and Portola, in Palm Desert. The complex would
be for residents age 62 and older. Twenty percent of the units, or 11 apartments, are being
designated for low-income housing and would then quality for federal grants_
The Hovley Lane West residents do not want an apartment complex on the temple property for
the following reasons:
1. The property in question is currently zoned PR-5 for residential use with no more
than five houses per acre. Areas zoned PR-5 are given such designations so that
homeowners can be reassured that their investment will not be impaired by a
development not cc>nforming to the present code. The proposal would change the
density to twenty-two(22)residential units per acre. This hig6 density is not
acceptable to us.
2. The proposed building will be like an apartment complex but yet it will be more like
a commercial basiness venture because, as an assisted living facility, it will be
providing restawarn, laundry, nursing care, and other services to its residents_
�""` 3. A venture of this type should not be located in the middle of an area surrounded by
residential singi�-famity homes, on and offHovtey La.ne West, with valuations
ranging from $350,OOQ to$b0�,000. This complex will impact our property
negatively. Either ow values wili decrease, or they may not increase as they
otherwise woutd. Our residential neighborhood should not be tumed into a business
neighborhood_
4. The proposed 55-unit building will bring an increase in tratTic on Hovley Lane
West. Many different suppliers will be bringing food and supplies(i.e. trucks
bringing food items, meats, bakery products, beverages, and others)from very early
morning hours and throughout the day_ These trucks will likely be of the diesel-
powered type and lazge, loud and noisy. Such trucks, and the number of them, do not
belong in our residential area._ In addition, there will be many emergency vehicles
responding to medical needs at atl hows of the day and night.
5. The approval of the proposal would be setting a bad precedent in our neighborhood
and could lead to other proposals of the sa.me nature_
6. Thorough envirnnmental impact studies have not yet been made. This includes
studies on traffic, noise, lights, sight lines, and others. Unacceptable study results
would be another reason this project should not be built in our neighborhood.
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Imagine the many serious concerns and problems that would be created with this commercial ,
business venture (assisted care housing project) in the middle of single-family homes such as <�
ours. We simply don't believe it fits in our neighborhood.
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The nearby communities of Rancho Mirage, Indian Wells, and LaQuinta have not permitted or
condoned such a venture within their city limits to date. Why is the Palm Desert Planning
Commission seemingly pushing and condoning such a zone change and granting a conditional
use permit to allow a negative impact on our bea.utiful community�
The residents on Hovley Lane West request that all homeowners join in helping to defeat the
proposed PR-5 zone change and accompanying conditional use permit, which would allow this
commercial business(assisted care housing project)to be built here_ Twice in the past several
years, neighborhood residents have defeated similar proposals. With strength in numbers, we
can do it again.
Here is what you can do. First, sigo the enclosed petition against tbe housing projeet and
return it to the person who persona(ly gives you this notice, or yau drop it off at the Pa1m Desert
Community Developmerrt Department, 73510 Fred Waring Dr., Palm Desert, CA 92260.
Second, attend the public hearing on Tuesday,May 6,at 7:Q0 p.m. in the Council Chambers at
the Palm Desert Civic Center, 73510 Fred Waring Drive, Palm Desert, California. Your
presence,joined by many other like-minded individuals,will give a strong message that this
neighborhood on streets from Hovley I,ane West are united in their opposition to the proposal.
Both husbands and wives should be there. Please ciear your schedule for this date, mark your
calendars, and plan on attending_ This is a must meering.
Thank you for your important support and help_ You are helping to protect our neighborhood
and property values.
The Residents of Hoviey Lane West