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I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Tschopp called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Lopez led in the pledge of allegiance
III. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Dave Tschopp, Chairperson
Jim Lopez, Vice Chairperson
Sonia Campbell
Cindy Finerty
Sabby Jonathan
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Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Phil Drell, Director of Community Development
Bob Hargreaves, City Attorney
Steve Smith, Planning Manager
Ryan Stendell, Planning Tech
Phil Joy, Associate Transportation Planner
Tonya Monroe, Administrative Secretary
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Request for consideration of the May 17, 2005 meeting minutes.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner
Finerty, approving the May 17, 2005 meeting minutes. Motion carried 4-0-0-1
(Commissioner Lopez abstained).
V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION
Mr. Drell summarized the pertinent May 26, 2005 City Council actions.
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VI. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS .r►
None.
VII. CONSENT CALENDAR
None.
Vill. PUBLIC HEARINGS
Anyone who challenges any hearing matter in court may be limited to raising
only those issues he, she or someone else raised at the public hearing
described herein, or in written correspondence delivered to the Planning
Commission at, or prior to, the public hearing.
A. Case No.TPM 33646-SCOTELLE DEVELOPMENT, LLC,Applicant
(Continued from May 17, 2005)
Request for approval of a tentative parcel map to subdivide a
4.27-acre parcel into seven parcels located at 39-800 Portola
Avenue.
Mr. Drell indicated that Commission had the staff report and the plans were
on display. He said this map was simply subdividing an existing approved
project. There were no changes to the project. This would just allow them to
sell individual buildings. He said there were mutual access easements
recorded between all the parcels so the parking lot still works and
recommended approval.
Chairperson Tschopp opened the public hearing and asked the applicant to
address the Commission. There was no response. Chairperson Tschopp
asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposal.
There was no one and the public hearing was closed.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Finerty, seconded by Commissioner
Jonathan, approving the findings as presented by staff. Motion carried 5-0.
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It was moved b Commissioner Fine y rty, seconded by Commissioner
Jonathan, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 2333, approving
Case No. TPM 33646, subject to conditions. Motion carried 5-0.
B. Case No. PP 05-06 - NORTH SPHERE ASSOCIATES, LLC/KEN
STENDELL, Applicants
Request for a precise plan of design to allow the construction
of two (2) industrial warehouse buildings totaling 19,360
square feet. The property is located at 73-750 Spyder Circle.
Commissioner Jonathan advised that he would be abstaining from the
discussion and voting on this matter and left the room.
Mr. Drell explained that the request was for two industrial buildings. The
project would meet all standards of the General Plan and zoning
designations. The architect received approval by Architectural Review and
staff recommended approval.
Regarding the west elevation, Commissioner Finerty asked if it was up
against another project. Mr. Drell said it was against another zero lot line
building. He confirmed that was why it was design was so blank.
Chairperson Tschopp opened the public hearing and asked the applicant to
address the Commission.
MR. KEN STENDELL, representing the owner of the property, at 48-
200 Birdie Way in Palm Desert, addressed the Commission. He
explained that he is the contractor hired to process this project. He
thanked staff for their help in processing this project and he hoped it
received approval. He asked for any questions.
Commissioner Campbell noted the Planning Commission received a
memorandum from Diane Hollinger, the City's Landscape Specialist,
regarding some of the landscaping. Ms. Hollinger thought the landscaping
was inadequate with the way the rocks were placed and with some of the
planting. She asked if Mr. Stendell agreed to the changes recommended.
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Mr. Stendell said yes. He already submitted a revised plan and they
were actively working on it, at which time they would have the
corrected landscape plan submitted concurrent with the grading plan
as City staff indicated.
There were no other questions and Chairperson Tschopp asked if anyone
wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposal. There was no
one and Chairperson Tschopp closed the public hearing. Chairperson
Tschopp asked for Commission comments.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Finerty, seconded by Commissioner
Campbell, approving the findings as presented by staff. Motion carried 4-0-0-
1 (Commissioner Jonathan abstained).
It was moved by Commissioner Finerty, seconded by Commissioner
Campbell, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 2334, approving
Case No. PP 05-06, subject to conditions. Motion carried 4-0-0-1
(Commissioner Jonathan abstained).
Commissioner Jonathan rejoined the meeting.
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C. Case No. VAR 05-02 - ABBASS AND JUDITH KAMOUIE,
Applicants
Request for approval of a variance to allow a freestanding 13'
x 29' patio cover 12 feet in height setback 3 feet 2 inches from
the property line.
Mr. Ryan Stendell reviewed the main issues of the staff report and
recommended denial.
Chairperson Tschopp opened the public hearing and asked the applicant to
address the Commission.
JUDITH AND ABBASS KAMOUIE, 74-431 De Anza, addressed the
Commission. Mrs. Kamouie didn't now if any of them had parents that
have Alzheimer's, but said Abbass's mother has it and it was getting
extremely bad. They had to keep her inside with them and make sure
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all the doors were locked, because if she got out, she would run away
and they didn't want that to happen to her. The only enjoyment she
gets is going out to this structure and is able to enjoy the shaded area
because she is an older lady and they didn't want her out in the sun.
This way she was able to enjoy that. They also had grandchildren
who were able to play with their toys in the shade because the sun
can be very bad for children.
She said she comes from the south and is a housewife and didn't
understand why this was a problem. To her, they weren't doing
anything to hurt anyone. She noticed that it said they were harming
other people's property and their property values were going down
because they had to look at this structure. They were the ones that
remodeled their house and brought everyone's property values up.
Why would they want to bring the neighbors' property values down
now? Why would they want to bring their own property value down?
That was something she couldn't understand. If they were doing
anything that was like putting in a bar or putting in a casino, that was
something she could understand. This she couldn't understand at all.
The structure that Mr. Stendell was saying was on the side in the
back, that has been there for almost ten years. When they remodeled
their house, the inspectors came and no one at that time even
bothered telling them they couldn't do that, so they just naturally
assumed that it was okay to do because it wasn't a dwelling. They
understood that a dwelling would need a permit. A patio structure no
one lived in and it was just enjoyed. She was also assuming that no
one would want to see a dog locked up 24/7 so she couldn't
understand why anyone would want to see this poor old lady locked
up 24/7, even with them because they could get out, but they couldn't
let her out unless they went with her because she couldn't get out of
the house. She said she had pictures if anyone wanted to see them
of what the property looked like before they remodeled and what it
looked like now.
Mr. Kamouie noted that all of the remodeling was done with City
permits. They've been living in the house over 15 years. He
personally went to all the neighbors with a petition and every one of
the surrounding neighbors around their house signed that they had no
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problem with the structure. He asked the Commission to tell them
what they had to do.
Commissioner Finerty asked Mr. Stendell if it was possible for the applicants
to erect a patio cover that meets city code. Mr. Stendell said yes. They
already have an existing attached patio cover off their house and if they
wanted to have the rear yard patio cover conform, it could only be ten feet
in height at maximum setback ten feet from property line. If they want to
move that patio structure to that appropriate location, he would be happy to
grant approval. However, the side yard structure was not allowable under the
ordinance. It would have to be moved so far off of the property line to
become the rear yard before staff could start looking at approval for that one.
He said there's room back there. The lot size is close to 18,000 square feet,
so there was a lot of room back there to move these into the appropriate
locations and start looking at approval on that one.
Commissioner Finerty asked if the applicants were willing to move the
structures into the appropriate locations.
Mr. Kamouie explained that the problem was that they also had a
guest house and the place they put the patio up, there was already
concrete underneath and everything on the flooring was already done.
Then if they tried to move the patio somewhere else, all the
landscaping and the view of the green they have would be
demolished and it would just look like they were in Los Angeles or
New York with all the concrete and everything around. There was
absolutely no more room to move the patio toward the house. If they
moved ten feet, there was no space left to even walk. It was not
anything desirable to have, for the kids to play and the grandma to sit
down and enjoy the kids playing.
Commissioner Finerty pointed out that the issue Mrs. Kamouie raised is that
there is no area without this patio for the kids to play or Mr. Kamouie's
mother to sit out and enjoy the scenery, but if they were to move this patio
structure, which is not in compliance, to the area Mr. Stendell suggested,
then they would be in compliance and the kids and his mother would be
happy.
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Mrs. Kamouie said they would then destroy the view because all the
fruit trees would have to be moved or gone because the other place
is cement and they couldn't put cement there.
Commissioner Finerty noted they also had to take into consideration that the
structure right now isn't in compliance, so if they were desiring to have an
appropriate patio structure like anyone in Palm Desert, they would have to
comply with the ordinance.
Mr. Kamouie said that was why they were at the meeting; to see what
they could do to leave the patio the way it was standing.
Commissioner Finerty didn't think they could.
Commissioner Jonathan pointed out that it was mentioned that there was an
inspection. They built the patio cover and there was an inspection done. He
asked if that was correct or if he misunderstood.
Mrs. Kamouie said he misunderstood. When they remodeled their
home, at that time one of the structures that was on the side, they
were also doing it and no one ever said to them that they couldn't do
it and they assumed it was okay. Mr. Kamouie said that when one of
the Code Enforcement officers came to the house, Mr. Kamouie
welcomed him and showed him the property and the patios. He asked
about the patio and Mr. Kamouie said it was built when they had the
house remodeled and it was standing there. The Code Officer said
they didn't catch it, but this other one they had to work on. Mr.
Kamouie said he stopped and then they never came back to them for
a long time, so he came to the City of Palm Desert himself to see the
status and what he should do and if he should stop. They checked
everything and they had absolutely no record of the complaints. Then
when Code asked him what he was doing there, he said he came in
to comply with what they had to do because it wasn't finished
completely and he was told there weren't any complaints and then
later on some issue of the light came up and they came back. But it
wasn't his intention to do something to bother his neighbor or take the
Commission's time coming to this point. If he knew from the beginning
that he didn't have to do that, he wouldn't have done it. Now it's there.
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Commissioner Finerty said she appreciated that, but now this has all come
to light and he was aware and so she would urge him to still be able to enjoy
it, but move the project into compliance.
Commissioner Jonathan said before the applicant was directed to do that
there would be other testimony and discussion because Commissioner
Finerty didn't speak for the entire Commission and they hadn't made that
decision yet. They were there to get input from him. He asked if Mr. Kamouie
understood that the ordinance allows these kinds of structures, but subject
to certain restrictions. And that was an attempt to meet the needs of the
homeowners, as well as their neighbors. So they had to draw some
guidelines. No one was telling them they couldn't have shade structures,
they were just saying it wasn't in compliance with the standards that have
been set. The question before the Commission tonight was if there were
circumstances that warranted an exception. So they were getting their input
and he thanked them for that and then they would see if anyone else wanted
to give them input, then they would have discussion.
Mrs. Kamouie thanked him. Mr. Kamouie said he came in to fix the
problem. He came to the City of Palm Desert and they said if he
wanted to do this, he needed to bring in a blueprint, a plan, put it on
a disk, put in on a digital picture, and he handed it to the engineering
department to see where everything was built out. Whatever the
instructions said. Mrs. Kamouie said they were also going to put in a
ceiling fan and a mister because of Abbass's mother and their
grandchildren, who were small, but they stopped everything when Mr.
Kilpatrick came in from Code Enforcement. They hadn't done
anything else since then. She thanked the Commission.
Chairperson Tschopp asked if anyone in the audience wanted to speak in
FAVOR or OPPOSITION to this matter. There was no one and the public
hearing was closed. Chairperson Tschopp asked for Commission comments.
Commissioner Campbell indicated that this wasn't in compliance and if they
allowed such things, then everyone in the city could do the same thing. She
would deny the variance.
Commissioner Finerty concurred.
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Commissioner Lopez said this was part of their job that is probably the most
difficult because they understand that there was obviously no intent, but
there are certain guidelines and ordinances that they really need to enforce
throughout the community and they try to be as flexible as they can and
come up with ideas as to how they can correct or at least mitigate the
situation. He thought that was still their intent. They just needed to work with
staff on how they could make this work and bring it into compliance in the
future. But he would have to concur with his fellow commissioners and deny
the request.
Commissioner Jonathan said he couldn't bring himself to agree to an outright
denial. He thought the applicants were well meaning and well intentioned
and were caught in a situation that wasn't in compliance with the ordinance.
But the structure was already there and he felt a little heartless telling them
to just tear it down, particularly since they seemed to have the support of
their neighbors by and large. However, the structure isn't in compliance and
they do have rules for purposes of being followed. His suggestion, and he
certainly appeared to be in the minority, would be to continue the matter and
give the applicant an opportunity to work with staff and come up with an
alternative. For example, he didn't think there was room for the side yard
structure. He thought that would have to be eliminated. But there might be
a way to modify the rear structure, maybe to lower the height or some other
solutions he wasn't aware of, and if there wasn't, he would be in agreement
with his fellow commissioners and vote for denial, but he just hated to do this
to a well meaning and well-intentioned individual.
Chairperson Tschopp stated that the road to heaven is paved with good
intentions, but the code itself is very specific. It says that variances and
adjustments from the terms of the code shall be granted only due to special
circumstances and it spells out exactly what those special circumstances
are. None of them were met in this case. The second thing was they had a
letter from a neighbor who wanted to remain anonymous that said the lights
are overpowering and the height is an obstruction to them. It has and is a
detriment to the neighbors and that is the reason he thought the code was
there. Additionally, looking at one of the pictures he was presented with,
there was room in the backyard for a structure of this nature to be placed that
would comply with code, so he thought there were some very viable
alternatives. So he, too, was opposed to granting the variance. He asked for
a motion.
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Action: ad
It was moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner
Finerty, approving the findings as presented by staff. Motion carried 4-1
(Commissioner Jonathan voted no).
It was moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner
Finerty, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 2335, denying Case
No. VAR 05-02. Motion carried 4-1 (Commissioner Jonathan voted no).
D. Case Nos. C/Z 04-06, PP 04-32 and TT 33120 - ROBERT MAYER
CORP., Applicant
Recommendation to the City Council of approval of a series
of applications (change of zone, precise plan of design,
tentative tract map and Negative Declaration of
Environmental Impact) to facilitate development of a mixed
use residential (33 single family lots) and commercial
(30,550 square feet) neighborhood commercial center on
8.63 acres at the northeast corner of Monterey Avenue and
Country Club Drive, 73-100 Country Club Drive.
Mr. Smith distributed a materials sample board and then reviewed the
main points of the staff report. He also informed Commission that a letter
was received right before the meeting from the Palm Desert Merano
Homeowners Association representing 126 homeowners and read the
concerns listed (copy of letter attached hereto as Exhibit A). Staff
recommended that the Planning Commission recommend approval of the
project to the City Council and asked for any questions.
Commissioner Jonathan asked for the commercial building, identified as
Lot 34, what was at the rear of that building. It looked like there was
something protruding from the rear of the building and asked if those
were loading docks, because he didn't see a road to the back. He was
asking if there would be loading activity between the building and the
residential structures. Mr. Drell said there was no access behind that
building. Mr. Smith indicated there was a four to five-foot sidewalk
across the back of the building. Commissioner Jonathan said he just
wanted to confirm that because it looked like there was something
sticking out there. Mr. Drell confirmed that it would either be empty or
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landscaped space. He said there are doors, so there would have to be a
sidewalk, but there was no vehicle access.
On the residential portion, Commissioner Jonathan asked if either
entrance would be gated. Mr. Smith said it was his understanding both
access points were gated. Commissioner Jonathan asked if there were
any stacking issues on the Country Club entrance. Mr. Smith said no, it
was sufficiently deep, but beyond the turn into the commercial. Mr. Drell
said the gate wouldn't be at Country Club, it would be beyond the
commercial side. Commissioner Jonathan said his concern was when
there was one, two or three cars waiting to get in, do they prevent
someone that using that as an access into the commercial portion? Did
staff feel there was enough depth there to accommodate that situation?
Mr. Smith said yes, it was right-in and right-out at that point so most of
the traffic would utilize the first opportunity.
Commissioner Lopez said in looking at the conditions of approval, he was
concerned about the back of the building they were just talking about. He
asked if that was conditioned to make sure that the landscaping wouldn't
all of a sudden disappear for a much wider access back there. Mr. Smith
said it wasn't so conditioned, however, an amendment such as that
would be an amendment to the precise plan and would come back
through the Planning Commission. Mr. Drell asked if there was a standard
condition for the landscaping maintenance agreement. Mr. Smith said
yes, Condition No. 7. Commissioner Lopez asked if that was sufficient.
Mr. Drell said yes, and there was now a very diligent staff following up
on them.
Commissioner Lopez asked if the applicant was aware of the single-story
requirement for Lot 33. Mr. Smith said yes. Commissioner Lopez asked
for confirmation that there was no plan or layout for that lot yet. Mr.
Smith confirmed there was no plan.
On that same subject, Chairperson Tschopp said that the way it read in
his report it is one unit. He asked if they were talking about one unit
being limited to single story. Mr. Smith said yes. Chairperson Tschopp
asked if the other units that would be two-story backing up to Merano
were not part of the conditions. Mr. Smith explained that there are no
other units immediately adjacent to Merano. There is a street around that
side of the property. That is the exception.
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Chairperson Tschopp asked about the left turn distance from Monterey
to the intersection. He assumed it was deemed not a problem. Mr. Smith
indicated that Public Works Department worked at length with the
applicant's engineer to come up with this access configuration.
Commissioner Campbell noted that the Architectural Review Committee
approved the buildings, the strip mall and the others the way it was
presented. Mr. Smith indicated that was not the way it started out. He
confirmed this was a lot better than it started out. It went through
several iterations.
Chairperson Tschopp opened the public hearing and asked the applicant
to address the Commission.
MR. LARRY BROSE with the Mayer Corporation, 660 Newport
Center Drive, Suite 1050 in Newport Beach, California, addressed
the Commission. He thanked staff. He said they had a late, last
minute crunch getting everything in so they could be at the
meeting tonight and staff did an outstanding job performing to get
this on agenda, which was very important to them.
As a clarification to Commissioner Jonathan's question on the
Country Club entry, he indicated it is an exit only for the
residential. Cars would not be going westbound on Country Club
to turn right to be stacking there to conflict with the traffic
movements in and out of the commercial. There was also a
manned pedestrian gate for that linkage to allow their future
residents an easy access over into the commercial so they can
walk instead of getting into their cars.
They concurred with staff's recommendations with a few
clarifications. Specifically, in Community Development Condition
No. 13 where there is a prohibition of a "food store" in excess of
15,000 square feet, they would see in the minutes from the
Council action when giving this a mixed use general plan
designation, there was a limitation of a supermarket. If they go to
the ordinance for PC-2, supermarket is specifically spelled out as
an allowed use, so his suggestion was a clarification from "food
store" to "supermarket" so that there was no question from either
side.
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Commissioner Jonathan asked if he was drawing a distinction from a
food store and grocery store.
Mr. Brose said he read food store unless it changed.
Commissioner Jonathan said maybe he just didn't understand his
comment.
Mr. Brose said the point was that in the Council's action it was
specifically limiting a supermarket, which in the code a
supermarket is an allowed use in this zoning designation.
Mr. Drell said it is allowed, but to use this designation and be consistent
with the general plan they had to create a condition that would delete
that as a permitted use.
Mr. Brose said he was still agreeing to the limitation of no
supermarket, it was just the semantics. Is it called a supermarket
or a food store to be consistent with the code.
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Mr. Drell said the important number is the 15,000 square feet. He didn't
believe there was any absolute definition of what a supermarket is. It has
changed over the years. The important distinction is the size. At some
point in time, when does a food store become a supermarket? Practically,
on this site given the three acres they physically couldn't put in a
supermarket anyway. But just to be clear, 15,000 square feet would
allow certain specialty food stores like Trader Joe's and at what point
does that become a full service grocery store? Staff thought 15,000
square feet was a reasonable defining point when a specialty food store
becomes a grocery store.
Commissioner Jonathan clarified that the applicant was not objecting to
the condition, he was just seeking clarification.
Mr. Brose said that was right. Regarding Community Development
Condition No. 9, there was a question on the single story
component. In a perfect world they would love to keep a two-
story unit there for lots of good reasons. It would be an orphan
unit and they would rather not have to design a single-story
component. With the suggestion being to keep the condition
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unless they were able to get approval in some written format from
the immediately impacted neighbors in the Merano tract which
would allow for the two-story unit. So the onus would be on them
to go to their neighbors to see if they would approve, allow, or not
object to the two-story component. If that was not the case,
because the point was made that they have not taken a single-
story component through architectural review, if they were unable
to get the neighbors' approval or the neighbors' buy off, they
would like to take the single-story floor plan just to the Community
Development Director instead of having to go back through ARC.
So the single-story component would be substituted with two-
stories if the neighbors allowed it. If not, take the single-story floor
plan back to the Community Development Director.
Public Works Condition No. 16, he read the condition as
somewhat limiting. He understood in practice that it doesn't occur
that way, but how he read it was that unless and until all of the
rights-of-way are dedicated, and that would be through the
recordation of the map, the most common practice was that they
would not be able to pull any permits for the project, including a
grading permit. As the Commission knew, the process typically is
that the map takes a little bit longer than a rough grading permit.
Assuming Palm Desert allows the pulling of the grading permit and
the causing of the rough grading of their site, he wanted to
propose that the language be revised to prior to the issuance of
Certificate of Occupancy or some other milestone down the road,
instead of the map recordation for when they could pull their
permits.
For Public Works Condition No. 24, he didn't understand what it
meant to have a maintenance agreement for 25% of the cost.
They were to design and construct the signal at Via Scena at
Country Club and enter into a maintenance agreement for 25% of
the cost. He asked if that really meant 25% of the cost of the
maintenance or 25% of the signal. He wasn't sure.
Mr. Joy replied it was 25% of the cost of the maintenance of the signal.
Public Works Condition No. 25 where they were conditioned to
construct the center median on Monterey to the northerly
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..�. extension of Tract 27882, he assumed that meant the Merano
subdivision.
Mr. Joy said that was correct.
Mr. Brose said they were okay with that; however, he understood
from a meeting he had with the engineer of record at the Merano
subdivision and Joe Gaugush, that in fact the existing assessment
district that they also participate in had as a line item the
improvements of that median and he understood from that
meeting that that was the next improvement that the assessment
district was going to fund. He didn't know if there was a shortfall
or if they were looking for them to substitute in for the
assessment district, he would rather not do that seeing as the
dollars were already there and they were already paying for that
now in the assessment for their property.
Mr. Joy said they might have to look into it a little further. It was the first
he had heard about the assessment district itself. He knew there was talk
�.. about having that access onto Monterey Avenue closed so that the
Merano residents would not be able to turn southbound onto Monterey
Avenue, but would allow a left turn from southbound Monterey into his
project. It would need to be researched.
Mr. Brose said they could take a look at that. The assessment
district also had as a line item the cost for the installation of the
signal at Country Club and Via Scena. That was sometime in the
90's and he knew the dollars allocated back then probably
wouldn't cover the costs today.
Commissioner Jonathan asked if there was an existing assessment
district.
Mr. Brose said yes.
Commissioner Jonathan asked if it was funded.
Mr. Brose said yes.
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Commissioner Jonathan said it was Mr. Brose's understanding that it
included the median on Monterey.
Mr. Brose said yes.
Commissioner Jonathan indicated that what Mr. Brose was suggesting
is that Condition No. 25 be modified to indicate that the developer would
construct and pay to the extent that it is not covered by the assessment
district.
Mr. Brose said that was correct.
Mr. Joy said that would leave the language vague enough so that they
could research that the assessment district actually is for that purpose.
Commissioner Lopez said there was also an understanding that the
assessment district also covers the signal.
Mr. Brose said that was correct; however, he believed the district
was 1994, 1995 or 1996, the mid 90's, and some of the dollars
were spent doing a slurry on Monterey that wasn't in the
assessment district, so the dollars have shifted around and time
hasn't been their friend with costs. To be honest with them, he
didn't know how many dollars remained, but he did know that the
two line items for the median and the signal were in the
assessment district.
Mr. Drell said that in the discussions he has had, the presumption was
that these conditions would apply to expenses above and beyond what
is left in the assessment district. The engineer was aware of the district
and there's money there, they were just acknowledging that there would
be more money required to finish these two items. These monies are
available to get them part way.
Mr. Brose concluded and said he was present to answer any
questions.
There were no further questions of the applicant and Chairperson
Tschopp asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR of the proposed
project.
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"o MR. HANK GORDON, 33 Churchill Lane in Rancho Mirage, said
that his company would be developing the commercial portion of
the application. He wanted to make two points clear to them.
When the staff member from the Planning Department said there
would be a drive-thru, this was not particularly a drive-thru. These
were prescription pickup windows. People couldn't drive through
and order things from the drug store except prescriptions.
Regarding the questions that Commissioner Lopez raised about the
rear doors, he stated that all of the loading is done through the
front doors. The accesses are through the front doors. The
purpose of the rear doors was for fire exiting required by city code.
When a unit is 1 ,500 feet or larger, two exits are required. That
was the only purpose of the rear doors.
Chairperson Tschopp asked if anyone wished to speak in OPPOSITION
to the proposed project.
MR. MICHAEL CARLE, 209 Strada Fortuna in Palm Desert,
low addressed the Commission. He stated that his property is adjacent
to the proposed development by the Mayer Corporation. He didn't
know if the Planning Commission was aware of it, or who was on
the Planning Commission at the time, but he had been on the sales
task force for Diamond West Homes that developed Merano. At
the time the Mayer Corporation owned that property; it was called
Avondale and they sold it off to Diamond West Homes and he
came on board. He also bought a house there.
At the time they were selling Merano properties to homeowners,
it was stated to the homeowners that the property was zoned R-7.
Mayer Corporation at one time tried to go back in with the
Lucky's/Albertson's store that is now vacant across the street
from Plaza de Monterey. That was turned down by the City
Council.
He said he wanted to go through a couple of things that are
concerns for the homeowners of Merano. He said he is the
president of the homeowner's association. The present plan the
Mayer Corporation came up with on the commercial side of the
development, even the mixed use zoning they were here for
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tonight, they couldn't see why there would be a need for more
commercial buildings on the corner of Monterey and Country Club.
There was a white elephant across the street right now that is
vacant which was the old Albertson's store and there is plenty of
space there. Some of the tenants have already gone out of
business there as well since the anchor store moved over to
Rancho Mirage.
There was plenty of commercial space that would be built down
the street. They would have the Sam's, the Wal-Mart, Lowe's.
Merano would like to see Mayer Corporation develop this for what
it was intended to be developed, R-7, seven units per acre
residential, and allow the whole parcel to be developed residential.
They wanted to stuff 33 houses on a portion of this lot and then
squeeze in this commercial site. What if the Walgreens didn't go
in there? Then they have retail on both of those other buildings
which they already discussed tonight. The one at the northeast
corner on that property, you can't space it on there. The
gentleman explaining the plan said that building did not fit on
there. Then there is another strip mall adjacent behind these new
houses going in there and he didn't see where they could validate
having more commercial building on that parcel when it looked to
him that they were just trying to stuff on this project more
commercial buildings. Is there a need for it? When the main
objection to the homeowners, the 126 homeowners that live in
Merano, is that it is zoned R-7, they would like to see it stay R-7
built with residential and have the whole lot built residentially.
That's what the master plan originally called for. Mayer
Corporation elected not to develop that residentially. They're the
ones that made the decision not to develop that into residential
properties when they went through with Merano.
Basically from the standpoint of the Merano homeowners, he said
they were opposed to seeing anything other than residential going
onto that parcel. There is plenty of commercial space vacant right
across the street that they have been looking at vacant for about
two years; since Albertson's moved over to Rancho Mirage. They
have that and all sorts of retail space over there that is vacant.
Now they were going to allow a zoning change to go in and allow i
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them to build more commercial retail space? He didn't see where
the justification was on that.
Yes, the residential property plan looked good. That was fine. It
looked good to Merano homeowners. They've tried to work with
them and this was the best thing they've come up with so far. He
said this was the third go around with the Mayer Corporation and
they had been present at the meetings when they've tried to
develop this land and every time, in some way, it has some
commercial with it. He asked why they couldn't have all
residential? That was basically what the homeowners from Merano
were going to say.
As far as the homeowners allowing them to go in and build a one-
story structure within a two-story development and every other
house in there is two-stories, that didn't make any sense. That
didn't make sense to them at all. They asked the Mayer
Corporation when they presented to the Board of Homeowners
from Merano, who has been maintaining Via Scena? They have.
The Merano homeowners. They've been paying to maintain that
street, maintain the water retention basin, maintain the landscape
and now all of a sudden they would get the new development and
who would help them maintain that? Where was their water runoff
going to go? Is it going into their water retention basin they've
maintained over all these years? They asked the Mayer Corporation
that. They asked Transwest Housing, who proposed to build them,
if they would pick up some of the cost of the maintenance of the
retention basin. To him, that didn't make sense for them to have
paid all these years to maintain that retention basin.
City water runs in there. That was fine. It runs off of Country Club
Drive. All the water that would come off of that project would go
into their retention basin. Who would maintain that if something
went wrong? Where down the line does the Merano homeowners
have to pick that up if something were to go wrong with that
retention basin if it gets clogged up? The City isn't going to come
out and do it. It wasn't the City's responsibility. It would fall back
onto Merano homeowners.
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To allow them to build a one-story structure in a two-story
development didn't make sense. And then they have more
commercial going in. What about the traffic? What about the
noise? What about the security issues that would face not only the
new homeowners here, but the existing Merano homeowners?
What about them that have already been there? There's security,
traffic, noise, rodents. Who knew what would go in that retail
section? There could be food joints going in there. They don't
want to be backed up against something that will be a China Jo's
or a Chinese restaurant or something in that strip mall. And it very
likely could be because once they get it built, it's there and they
could lease it to whoever they wanted to and it would be a food
source of some sort in there.
They would have security issues. What about the lighting on the
commercial property 24/7? And that's a 24-hour Walgreens.
What about the lighting issue to the Merano homeowners and the
new residents if they go in there? And the traffic flow pattern on
Monterey. What would happen to their back gate that goes onto
Monterey? If that went through and they allowed that median to
go in there, would that cut off their access to go south on
Monterey Avenue? It probably would, so they would only be able
to go right out of their back gate. They only have one entrance,
Via Scena. They have to come down to Monterey and Country
Club to go through that light to go south onto Monterey. He didn't
see where this plan had really been well thought out as far as the
existing Merano homeowners, the new homeowners when they
did go in, and how that affects everyone else.
Mr. Carle asked about the flow from the stop light and the
assessment district that the Mayer Corporation is talking about.
There was an assessment district. The money was set aside back
in the 1990's. Yes, the money was set aside. Are they going to
put a light up there? Are they going to put a light at the end of Via
Scena to allow Merano homeowners to go east on Country Club
Drive? And there's also a light down at Suncrest that allows those
people to get into Suncrest. There's the distance between those
two lights and then they would stop again at Monterey Avenue ,
and Country Club. He didn't see where that all fell into the mix.
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Basically, the issue before them as homeowners of Merano was
the commercial. One, lights burning 24/7. His property would be
right up against this commercial piece. If he was one of the other
homeowners, yes, he wouldn't be too opposed. Yes, it's blocking
off all their views, but at least they've got residential behind their
property. There are three homeowners, himself, Shirley, and Jill
Lovingfloss that will be buffered up right against this commercial
and they will deal with them. What about security? Anyone could
hop over that block wall into any one of their backyards. There's
a security issue there. What's in place to make sure that doesn't
happen? There are delivery trucks and trash bins that will be there.
He certainly didn't want to be woken up at 7:00 a.m. with trash
trucks emptying out their garbage with their trash receptacle and
where it is placed. To him it didn't make a lot of sense to allow it
to go mixed use when it was zoned R-7.
He just wanted to bring that up to the Planning Commission and
appreciated their time. The secretary of the Merano Homeowners
Association submitted a letter to the Planning Commission and he
thought they would be given a copy. It was given to the clerk. He
asked them to please read it through and see some of the other
concerns the Merano homeowners have because he didn't address
them all this evening. He thanked them. (A copy of the letter is
attached hereto as Exhibit A.)
Chairperson Tschopp asked if there was anyone else wishing to speak in
OPPOSITION to the application. There was no one. Chairperson Tschopp
asked if he had any rebuttal comments.
Mr. Brose addressed the Commission. He said they've had many
go arounds, as Mr. Carle had referred to, on the application here.
The application that was originally submitted, and the Commission
might remember him standing up before them pleading during the
General Plan process for commercial designation on the corner of
the property, which they did recommend to City Council and it
was denied. They were before them today with a mixed use. They
have gone through many iterations and gone through many
architectural review committees on the project. They believed it
was a sound project. They believed they've met many peoples'
concerns on the property.
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There were a couple of issues that were brought up. Lighting.
They don't intend to and wouldn't have lighting 24/7 on the
commercial center. Any lighting they had would be conditioned
through the design review of having down lit low level lighting. He
thought Palm Desert was one of the dark sky cities.
With regard to the retention basin, the property currently drains
into the Merano retention basin, as does the Desert Greens golf
course to the north of Merano. So there was a relatively large
tributary area. They met with the Merano Board of Directors a few
months ago. They did discuss the issue of maintenance and shared
maintenance for the retention basin for the landscaped areas that
they presently maintain in the street, in the parkways, and they
were certainly willing to work with them to help improve what
might be a deficient basin, as well as the long-term maintenance
of the basin and the landscaping on the common street they would
share. He asked for any questions. (There were none.)
Chairperson Tschopp closed the public hearing and asked for Commission
comments.
Commissioner Finerty said they have been through a lot with this corner
and she would say that they had it half right now. Half right meaning the
residential. Throughout the General Plan process and all the other
renditions that have come before them she has always been against
commercial and she hadn't changed her mind. She was still against
commercial. She agreed with most of Mr. Carie's points of view and it
was kind of the same story, different application. There was no need for
additional commercial with the empty building across the street and
commercial backed up to all these residents just didn't blend toward the
kind of development she would like to see in Palm Desert. If any kind of
a mixed use were to be allowed, she would prefer office professional,
perhaps as a buffer backed up to Monterey and Country Club. Ideally,
though, she concurred that it should all be residential. For that reason,
she was opposed.
Commissioner Jonathan noted that the staff report indicated that the
Council on March 15, 2004 voted unanimously (Councilperson Ferguson
was absent) to designate the site as a mixed use commercial/residential
area. Staff in the past, as indicated in the staff report, had recommended
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approval of commercial use on that corner no less than three times.
That's one of the busiest intersections in the Coachella Valley. His
personal opinion was that any element of residential was inappropriate
for that corner, but because of concerns of the residents the applicant
has through time, time and time again, made accommodations and he
believed has reached a point that is consistent and in agreement with the
General Plan as supported by the Council and by staff. In accordance
with that land, he didn't think they could ever hope for anything better.
It is a beautiful project, the commercial element is very attractive and
relatively low scale, the residential element is very attractive. It is
medium density and in many respects is preferable to high density, so he
thought that was a reasonable compromise and accommodation. Based
on the zoning, based on the General Plan, based on staff's support,
based on Council's support for this use at that location, and based on the
design that the applicant has implemented, he was strongly in favor of
the project before them.
Commissioner Lopez thought that both commissioners were correct in
that they have gone through many phases with this particular location
%NW and he tended to concur with Commissioner Jonathan that this is one of
the busiest intersections we have in our community right now and he
could not imagine having his backyard or a backyard backing up to that
particular intersection on a day in and day out basis. The mixed use
option on this particular application was one that seemed to fit well with
the plan. There was a buffer between that corner and the remaining
residential areas in that particular area.
He was concerned about Lot 33 and the single story use. He believed
that condition should remain. He didn't think there was a lot of room for
flexibility on that condition only because they might get the okay from
the current owner and then the next owner could be mortified by what's
there and he thought it would hurt the resale value. Overall, he thought
the mixed use plan was as good as anything they had seen so far and he
was in favor of the recommendation.
Commissioner Campbell agreed that they have discussed this corner
many many times. This is the best that has been proposed. The thing
that she objected to was the building to the north. It probably didn't work
out on paper if that building wasn't there. She objected to granting a
variance and noted that they didn't approve a variance for a previous
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agenda item because of the closeness to the residential neighbor. Also,
Lot 33, the one story home, as far as she was concerned, she would
rather have not just one, one-story home there, because if there is a two-
story home right next to it, if they are upstairs they can look into these
other people's yards. So some of those homes, three or four of those
homes, she felt should be one story homes so that it would be farther
away from the residential area at Merano.
She knew they couldn't say what this commercial could have, but again,
she agreed with Mr. Carle with regard to food. They had a problem with
Sagewood when they complained about the odor from a restaurant near
them and this would apply to the same project. So she was really yes
and no with regard to this. Again, she could see that they have a lot of
commercial that is vacant across the street, but yet it is a very busy
corner. She didn't know if they could have any say on what should go in
there and what shouldn't go in there. She said she really was opposed to
it and would rather have all residential.
Chairperson Tschopp said it is mixed use residential zoning at this time
and it is consistent with the General Plan. Truthfully, if they looked at
that corner, in his opinion it was not residential friendly and he truly
thought the whole corner should probably be more commercial. But given
the limitations of the zoning placed on it by the Council back in 2004, he
thought this was a great attempt to try to work into the mixed use
zoning, the buffer of homes next to some commercial buildings that he
thought were as well placed as they could be given the limitations on the
land, the access and so forth. So overall, he was in favor of it. He wasn't
crazy about the circulation, but he would trust at this time the engineer
and the staff in looking at the circulation through there and so forth.
Overall, he thought it was a good attempt given the limitations placed on
this land and he was in favor. He did not have a problem with two-story
homes because they typically didn't impact a view as bad as the
landscaping. And trees seemed to most times impact landscaping more
than a second story home did, so he wouldn't have a problem with the
developer being able to discuss with the adjoining three neighbors, and
if they had a consensus to build a two-story, they ought to go forward.
The next owners would be able to see what they would get and probably
would have it easier than the current owners. So given that, he was in
favor of the project. He asked for a motion.
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Action:
Commissioner Jonathan said he would make a motion for approval to
include modification to the Department of Community Development
Condition 9 to enable the applicant to obtain design approval through
Community Development rather than going back through the full process
through ARC; Public Works Condition No. 16 to enable the applicant to
obtain a grading permit at an earlier trigger point to the satisfaction of the
Planning Department; and Public Works Condition No. 25 to clarify that
the applicant is responsible only for those costs not covered by the funds
that exist in the assessment district.
Mr. Drell asked if he wanted to add a condition relative to their
participation and maintenance of the retention basin. Commissioner
Jonathan said yes. Commissioner Lopez seconded the motion.
Chairperson Tschopp called for the vote. Motion carried 3-2 (Commissioners
Campbell and Finerty voted no).
It was moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Commissioner
Lopez, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 2336, recommending
to City Council approval of Case Nos. C/Z 04-06, PP 04-32 and TT 33120,
subject to conditions as amended. Motion carried 3-2 (Commissioners
Campbell and Finerty voted no).
Mr. Drell noted that this was a recommendation to the City Council and there
would be a hearing scheduled before City Council.
IX. MISCELLANEOUS
A. Status Report on Valet Parking and Outdoor Music at Augusta
Restaurant.
Mr. Drell said there was further correspondence between Public Works and
the operator of the valet about the permit. As a result of that, the valet
withdrew from the restaurant, so for the last few weeks there hadn't been
valet services. The owner of the restaurant believed it was now complete
chaos and people were choosing now to park on the street rather than to
brave the chaos of the parking lot. He informed the owner that what she
needed to do was make application for a revised permit. If that revised permit
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was denied, then she would have an appealable action to the Council and
then the whole issue of the valet ordinance would get thrown up to the
Council. For better or worse, that's the process. She applies for permission,
gets denied, and then goes on. He noted that the last action the Commission
took was not an action, it was just direction to enforce the permit. She tried
to appeal that, but he explained she couldn't appeal that since no one had
taken an action against it. She had to ask for a modification.
He said there was mis communication on the music. Apparently the band
has been using an acoustical blanket around its back. She never told him
that it was installed, so they would try to get Code out there this weekend to
do some measurements and see how effective it's been. That was the
status. If it turned out that it is still in excess, then staff would be coming back
to the Commission with that report and request initiation of the amendment
of the CUP process, which would be a hearing dealing with the specific
condition for outdoor music.
Action:
None.
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B. Case No. TT 30438 Amendment#2 - Destination Development
Follow-up review of Planning Commission Resolution No. 2327
Condition No. 2 on the design of the Stone Eagle maintenance facility.
Commissioner Jonathan informed Commission that he would be abstaining
from discussion and voting on this matter and left the room.
Mr. Drell said the matter was really informational.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Finerty, seconded by Commissioner
Campbell, receiving and filing the staff report by minute motion. Motion
carried 4-0-0-1 (Commissioner Jonathan abstained).
Commissioner Jonathan returned to the meeting.
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C. Case No. PP 03-10 - Gill Desert Properties
Follow-up review of Planning Commission Resolution No. 2229
Condition No. 21 of the Gill office project at the northeast
comer of Cook Street and Hovley Lane.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Finerty, seconded by Commissioner
Campbell, to receive and file the staff report by minute motion.
Mr. Ricciardi asked to address the Commission. Chairperson Tschopp invited
him to the podium.
MR. ROBERT RICCIARDI said he wanted to go over the history. He
informed Commission that what they had here was a building which
came out approximately 16 feet on each end. They cut the building
down 16 feet on each end. They now have an outside deck that the
offices can use. The applicant, his client, would not like to lose that in
the building, so what he was really asking is if there was a chance the
Commission would reconsider. Was there a chance? So they were
coming asking for mercy, not justice.
Commissioner Finerty asked if this would have to be publicly noticed. Mr.
Smith explained that if the Commission was going to consider going at less
then what the condition specifies, then they would need to have a noticed
public hearing so that the interested parties could be noticed.
Mr. Ricciardi said that was fine. If the Commission said they would be
glad to reconsider, they would go that route. If they said no, they
wouldn't go that route and would go with the Commission's approval
tonight.
Chairperson Tschopp said that was irregular and explained that the
Commission's opinions are formed in part on the basis of what the audience
has to say. They weren't able to help him tonight.
Mr. Ricciardi said he understood that, but as he recalled, it wasn't
based on anyone in the audience originally. It was based more on the
Commission. It was based on aesthetics. He showed the plans of how
the building would look if it was approved tonight. He also showed
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how they had it designed originally. He said there really wasn't much
difference.
Mr. Drell asked Mr. Ricciardi to point out the cut back area.
Mr. Ricciardi did so.
Commissioner Campbell said she liked the revised version better.
Commissioner Finerty agreed. She also noted that in the staff report under
background it said at the public hearing neighbors expressed concern with
respect to a two-story building proposed at the center of the property.
Accordingly, Planning Commission imposed two conditions to limit the impact
of it. She asked how they could go back on that? Mr. Drell said they would
have to reopen the public hearing.
Chairperson Tschopp said that Mr. Ricciardi could work with staff and get it
on an agenda and have a public hearing. Commissioner Campbell noted that
otherwise, he already had a motion and a second.
Mr. Ricciardi said he would go ahead with the Commission approving ,
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it and would think about it later. He thanked them.
Chairperson Tschopp noted that there was a motion and a second and
called for the vote. Motion carried 5-0.
D. Request for Initiation of a Zoning Ordinance Amendment to
Clarify Time Extensions for Conditional Use Permits, Variances
and Adjustments for Phased Projects
Mr. Smith explained that staff was requesting that Commission direct staff to
initiate a change to allow the clean up of the language with respect to time
extensions on conditional use permits, variances and adjustments. The
concern is with respect to phased projects. Currently the code is vague or
silent and they would like to come up with something to cover it. As well,
while they were doing a little bit of research on this it was noted that two and
a half lines were left out. The Planning Commission recommended the one
version and somehow two and a half lines were left out of the version that
went to the Council. So staff wanted to add that back in. So staff was asking
that Commission direct staff to initiate the amendment. Mr. Drell said they
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haven't exactly figured out time. The next item on the agenda was a case in
point, which really prompted this. They might want to talk about it now, too.
Commissioner Jonathan asked that they be kept separate. Mr. Drell said that
was fine.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Jonathan, seconded by Commissioner
Finerty, by minute motion, directed staff to initiate a zoning ordinance
amendment to clarify time extensions for conditional use permits, variances
and adjustments for phased projects. Motion carried 5-0.
E. Case No. CUP 99-7 -TEMPLE SINAI, Applicant
Request for approval of a one-year time extension for the
unbuilt portion of the CUP 99-7 approval.
Mr. Drell noted that they have the request. It was his understanding that it
Iwo was a financial issue. They would build it tomorrow if they had the money.
They are starting a capital campaign this fall. If a big donor comes along and
gives them money, they would hopefully build it. They were asking for
another year. They would like more, but staff took the most conservative
interpretation of the current code. Yes, they did need extensions and at a
certain point in time their initial vesting based on their completion of phase
one eventually evaporates.
The question he wanted to ask about their previous action is what their
thoughts were on the question they left open in the background discussion.
How much did someone have to do? If they finished three quarters of it, is
that enough to vest them for the last quarter forever? If they finish less of it,
is there a period where they want to see it back? He asked if the
Commission had any guidance or suggestions. At what point and what
degree of completion should the extension be required?
Commissioner Campbell felt like this was a different category. She would
grant an extension for this one. It is different when a developer builds phase
one and then he runs out of money to build phase two. But this being a
church, to her she put it in a different category. Mr. Drell said it wasn't
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whether or not they should grant extensions. The question was at what point
in time they should be required to ask for them.
Commissioner Jonathan said that was why he wanted to separate the
discussions, because item D addressed what he was talking about, which is
kind of a conceptual discussion of phased construction. But Item E is a
specific request, which may or may not be necessary, but it is on the agenda.
Mr. Drell said that was correct. To be safe, since Ms. Solowitz felt that
current staff would not necessarily be here forever, Ms. Solowitz wanted to
make sure she had something. Commissioner Jonathan said that was fine.
He agreed with Commissioner Campbell and didn't have a problem with that.
They could come back to the conceptual discussion and his response to that
was he wasn't sure. That's why he voted in favor of D, because he would like
to ask staff to study the matter and come back with some alternatives, some
discussion and/or if they were ready for an amendment. But it was a thorny
one, as Mr. Drell knew, so that was why they were discussing it. But he
wanted to initiate with staffs professional analysis of the issue and come
back to the Commission with something.
Chairperson Tschopp said that he would disagree with both Commissioner
Jonathan and Commissioner Campbell. Their job wasn't to look at who is
building a project, it's how it's going to fit into the city down the road and how
it will change. Whether it's a church, temple, or football stadium. It needed
to come under the same guise. if they run out of money, that's their problem.
Raise it or get it from the bank, but it wasn't a problem the City should be
dealing with. They should be looking at how it fits into the neighborhood.
Commissioner Jonathan said it is subjective, though. They had the Living
Desert before them at the last meeting and he was the sole vote against the
extension. But Commission, appropriately/understandably said yes, let's
extend. So it is a judgmental issue. When do they say yes? For the Living
Desert, it's probably for the same reason. They don't have the money in the
bank and want more time. So that's why extensions come before them.
Mr. Drell said that when they come before the Commission they can always
say yes or no. For any reasons the Commission can grant extensions or
deny them. Up until this point when a project starts and they build half, staff
has been giving people longer than a year of ceased motion. So the question
is at what point after they have ceased construction of a phased project do
they have to ask for extensions.
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Commissioner Jonathan said with even not phased projects, because they
have instances when a developer starts with the grading or some substantial
improvement and stops. So he thought what the issue would come down to
from staff is what the period of non-construction activity that then triggers the
requirement for an extension or denial of the extension. That is the crux of
the issue. And it does relate to Temple Sinai, but they don't have that
amendment ordinance before them at this point.
As a compromise, Commissioner Lopez said that perhaps they would want
to go ahead and extend this request for a certain amount of time, a year, and
then at that point in time they would have a more definitive guideline. Mr.
Drell agreed. And then hopefully they would have more information on their
prognosis.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Lopez, seconded by Commissioner
Campbell, by minute motion, approving a one-year time extension of Case
No. CUP 99-7. Motion carried 5-0.
X. COMMITTEE MEETING UPDATES
A. ART IN PUBLIC PLACES
Commissioner Campbell reported that the meeting was informational
only.
B. LANDSCAPE COMMITTEE
Commissioner Finerty reported that the meeting was canceled.
C. PROJECT AREA 4 COMMITTEE
Commissioner Finerty noted that the last meeting update was at the
last meeting.
XI. COMMENTS
None.
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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION
JUNE 7, 2005
XII. ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Commissioner Lopez, seconded by Commissioner
Jonathan, adjourning the meeting by minute motion. Motion carried 5-0. The
meeting was adjourned at 7:40 p.m.
PHILIP DRELL Secretary
ATTEST:
DAVID E. TSCHOPP, Chairperso
Palm Desert Planning Commission
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Haim Desert Merano Homeowners Association
President: Michael Carle
Secretary: Irwin Sandler
245 Strada Nova
Palm Desert, CA 92280
Tel: 760-861-2328 Fax: 760-779-5372
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Monday, June 06, 2005
To Whom It May Concern:
This letter represents the voice of one hundred&twenty six home owners in the
residential development of Merano, which is located directly adjacent to the 8.63 acres
on the comer of Monterey Ave and Country Club Drive proposed for a zoning change, as
requested by the Mayer Corporation.
This is not the first time that a request for a zoning change has been put before you.
Originally the request was for the entire parcel of land. That request was denied. The
Merano residential development is the result of the original zoning initiative within the
Palm Desert Master Plan. The Mayer Corporation voluntarily chose to leave the
remaining 8.63 residential acres undeveloped. However, a few years ago another
request for zoning change came to you asking for the remaining 8.63 acres to be zoned
commercial for the then proposed Lucky/Albertson project. That request was also
denied.
Now the Mayer Corporation is requesting a modification of the zoning for partial
commercial and partial residential development The homeowners of Merano object to
any zoning change from that clearly established in the Palm Desert Master Plan.
r.. The new Albertson's in Rancho Mirage has left the Plaza de Monterey anchor store
empty for at least two years. What is to become of the vast space in the middle of a
struggling shopping mall?
What could be the compelling reason for a zoning change? Within two miles south on
Monterey there are already fully developed commercial centers and, to the north, on
Monterey and Dinah Shore, construction is under way for a Super Wal-Mart, Sams Club,
Lowes and others. The proposal before you indicates a Walgreens as the anchor.
What's to become of the Walgreens across from the Westfield Shopping Mall?
Surely there is already enough commercial development for the comer of Country Club
and Monterey. The Palm Desert Master Plan dearly indicates the comer lot adjacent to
the entrance to Merano was to be residential. What is the overriding reason for making
a change?
We have attached a history of the proposals to date and points of opposition for any
development other than that of the agreed zoning of residential.
Sincerely,
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Merano Board of Directors
June 7, 2005
History
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• The parcel of land which is the subject of this hearing was part of a single ..
parcel which includes what is now the residential community of Merano.
• Prior to the development of Marano, the City of Palm Desert refused a
zoning change request that would have permitted a REGIONAL
SHOPPING CENTER on the entire site.
• The City upheld its own Master Plan and retained the R-7 zoning for the
entire site.
• The owner then chose to develop Merano, a conforming use of the land,
on approximately%of the site and requested a zoning change to
commercial for the remaining %of the parcel that is the subject of tonight's
hearing.
• Again, the City of Palm Desert upheld its own Master Plan and permitted
the development of Merano as a conforming residential community but
refused to change the zoning for the 8.63 acre portion that is the subject of
this hearing and retained the R-7 zoning for the entire parcel.
• The owner has made numerous attempts at putting a commercial
development/shopping center on this land including a request for a zoning
change to commercial that was the subject of a hearing before this
commission and City Council during the summer of 1998.
• Again, the City upheld its own Master Plan and denied the request for a
change of zoning from R-7 to commercial.
• Since then, the Robert Mayer Corp has made additional presentations to
the Board and residents of Merano seeking support for a zoning change
request. Each and every request has resulted not only in a lack of support
by the owners of homes in Merano but in an overwhelming outpouring of
opposition to the request.
• The land is stilt zoned R-7.
• The construction of the proposed 2-story homes immediately backing up
to the proposed commercial buildings and a commercial parking lot is an
ill-conceived plan.
• The PLAZA de MONTEREY is a retail neighborhood shopping center and
is located directly across Country Club Drive—on the south east comer of
Monterey Avenue and Country Club Drive. This commercial center is and
has been largely vacant for an extremely longtime—in some cases in
••• excess of 1 %years. With the amount of pre-existing vacant commercial
space already at this intersection, there is absolutely no justification or
compelling reason to support the requested change of zoning from the
City of Palm Desert's Master Plan to allow the blight of an unneeded,
unwarranted, and unwanted additional strip mall at this intersection.
• The owners of homes within Merano, like the other residents of Palm
Desert, look forward to the day when the vacant land on the northeast
comer of Monterey Club and Country Club is properly developed.
However, this mixed use project is not the proper development plan for
this strictly residential R-7 property.
On behalf of the 126 homeowner's of Merano, we ask that the Planning
Commission continue to uphold the zoning of the Palm Desert Master Plan and
deny the request for a change of zoning for this mixed use project.
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Traffic congestion
Cost of maintenance due to deterioration from higher usage
Cost of landscaping It
Vehicular noise
Vehicular lights
Gate security
Traffic Signals
Paridna Lot
Lighting for lot
Lighting for security devices (strobes etc)
Noise of cars/homs
Noise of people and shopping carts
Delivery trucks
Truck reverse warning signals
Specific Retail Concems
Location dose to Merano wall
Security
Noise of compressors, air conditioning systems, and ventilation systems
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Shopping carts
Excessive delivery traffic and noise of bucks
Location of loading docks and inherent noise problems (truck.reversing horns)
2417 Operation
Litter
Cooking smells
Other woes of business which might be included
Service stations
Restaurants
Fast food
Take-out food operations
Arcade game type businesses
Others types of nuisance businesses
Plans for Nearby Properties
Ownership of other Monterey Ave/Country Club Drive intersection properties
Plans for the vacant lot in Rancho Mirage
Direct effects on Merano homes
Blockage of views
Excessive noise
Security concems both at gates and walls
Increase costs of maintenance of roads
24/7 operation infringes on enjoyment of home/property during leisure hours
Aesthetic concems
Diminishing property values
Who does Proposed center benefit?
In the view of the board of directors and homeowners of Merano, the only beneficiary is
the Mayer Corporation