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I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Lopez called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Tanner led in the pledge of allegiance.
III. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Jim Lopez, Chair
Cindy Finerty, Vice Chair
Sonia Campbell
Van Tanner
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Dave Tschopp
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Phil Drell, Director of Community Development
Bob Hargreaves, City Attorney
Steve Smith, Planning Manager
Ryan Stendell, Assistant Planner
Phil Joy, Associate Transportation Planner
Tonya Monroe, Administrative Secretary
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Request for consideration of the March 21, 2006 meeting minutes.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner
Finerty, approving the March 21, 2006 meeting minutes. Motion carried 5-0.
V. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION
Mr. Drell summarized pertinent March 23, 2006 City Council actions.
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VI. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None.
VII. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Case No. PMW 05-10 -BIGHORN PARTNERS, LLC AND BIGHORN
DEVELOPMENT, LLC, Applicants
Request for approval of a parcel map waiver to allow a lot line
adjustment for property at 888 Crescent Fails, Palm Desert.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Finerty, seconded by Commissioner
Tschopp, approving the Consent Calendar by minute motion. Motion carried
5-0.
VII1. PUBLIC HEARINGS
Anyone who challenges any hearing matter in court may be {imited to raising
only those issues he, she or someone else raised at the public hearing �
described herein, or in written correspondence delivered to the Planning
Commission at, or prior to, the public hearing.
A. Case No. TPM 34211 -WILSON JOHNSON CRE, INC., Applicant
(Continued from March 21, 2006)
Request for approval of a tentative parcel map to subdivide
83.2 acres into 22 parcels for property located befinreen Portola
Avenue and Cook Street north of Gera{d Ford, more
particularly described as APN's 653-280-035, 653-390-091
and 653-390-071.
Mr. Drell informed Commission that a continuance was being requested to
April 18 to allow time for one unresolved issue.
Chairperson Lopez noted that the public hearing was still open and asked if
anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION. There was no one. The
public hearing was left o en and Chairperson Lopez asked for action by the
Commission.
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Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Finerty, seconded by Commissioner
Campbell, continuing Case No. TPM 34211 to April 18, 2006 by minute
motion. Motion carried 5-0.
B. Case Nos. C/Z 06-02, PP 06-01 and TT 34304 - SINATRA& COOK
LLC, Applicant
Request for recommendation to the City Council of approva! of
a change of zone, precise plan of design, tentative tract map
and Negative Declaration of Environmental Impact for 268
condominium units and a 39,792 square foot neighborhood
commercial center on 19.6 +/- acres north of Frank Sinatra
between Cook Street and College Drive, 37-755 Cook Street.
Mr. Drell said that staff wanted to review this case along with the University
Park application, but there were some unresolved items. Staff requested a
continuance to April 18, 2006.
� Chairperson Lopez o ened the public hearing and asked if anyone wished
to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION. There was no one. The public hearing
was left o�en and Chairperson Lopez asked for Commission action.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Finerty, seconded by Commissioner
Campbell, by minute motion continuing Case Nos. C/Z 06-02, PP 06-01 and
TT 34304 to April 18, 2006. Motion carried 5-0.
C. Case No. CUP 06-02 - TERRY AND CARLEY CECHIN,
Applicants
Request for approval of a conditional use permit allowing a
detached accessory structure/ motor home garage with a rear
yard setback of 15 feet to property line at 77-717 Mountain
View.
Mr. Stendell reviewed the staff report and recommended approval, subject
to conditions.
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Chairperson Lopez o�ened the public hearing and asked the applicant to
address the Commission.
MR. TERRY CECHIN, 77-717 Mountain View in Palm Desert,
addressed the Commission. He was present to answer any questions.
He said the neighborhood was pretty much set back that way and
assured that the project would be nice when done.
Chairperson Lopez asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITlON to the proposed project. There was no one and he cl sed the
public hearing. He asked for Commission comments or action.
Commissioner Finerty said it was a job wefl done and moved for approva{.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Finerty, seconded by Commissioner
Campbell, approving the findings as presented by staff. Motion carried 5-0.
It was moved by Commissioner Finerty, seconded by Commissioner
Campbell, adopting P{anning Commission Reso{ution No. 2384, approving
Case No. CUP 06-02, subject to conditions. Motion carried 5-0. �
D. Case No. C/Z 06-04 and University Park Master Plan - PALM
DESERT FUNDING LP, Applicant
Request for a recommendation of approval to the City Council
of the University Park Master Plan, a change of zone to add
the Planned Community Development Ove�lay Zone (PCD) to
the existing PR-5 zoning, and a Negative Declaration of
Environmental Impact as it relates thereto for 190 +/- acres
generally located south of Gerald Ford Drive and east of
Portola Avenue, 74-500 College Drive.
Mr. Smith reviewed the staff report, noting a correction to the total acres of
park land as being 11.2 acres, not 8.3. He recommended that Planning
Commission recommend to City Council approval of Case No. C/Z 06-04 and
� the University Park Master Plan.
Commissioner Tschopp asked if the Community Facilities District (CFD)
would also contain a maintenance fund or if the park maintenance would be
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picked up by the City in the future. Mr. Smith replied that the City would
maintain the parks after acceptance of the parks. Mr. Drell said no, the parks
are city facilities and maintained by the City, like all public parks.
Commissioner Tschopp asked if the height exception on the units would only
go to ARC (Architectural Review Commission). Mr. Smith explained that the
way it was structured at this point was that all actions of the ARC were
available for Council review and call up. That was the normal process it
would go through.
Commissioner Tschopp asked how many, what percent, of the models were
anticipated to be requesting height exceptions. Mr. Smith said the applicant
would have to address that question.
Commissioner Tanner noted that interior setbacks were usually 14 feet
combined with a minimum five feet on one side, but the applicant was
requesting 10 feet combined. He asked for the purpose of the smaller
setbacks. Mr. Smith said bigger houses. Commissioner Tanner asked if it
was bigger houses or more homes. Mr. Smith clarified that the map at that
standard had already been approved for 270 lots.
"� Commissioner Campbell asked about the price range of the homes. Mr.
Smith said the applicant could answer that question.
Commissioner Finerty asked for confirmation that there would be a
homeowner's association. Mr. Smith said yes, that all the streets would be
private but not gated. Mr. Drell said no, they were public. Mr. Smith noted
that they were only 33 feet wide. Mr. Drell said that didn't matter.
Chairperson Lopez indicated that in the information given to them, these
were considered private streets. Mr. Drell said the main spine streets through
the project were all public. Commissioner Finerty asked if those would be
maintained by the City. Mr. Drell said that was correct. They were being
installed through the CFD and maintained by the City as a public street. The
smaller streets would be private and maintained by the HOA. He thought
there would be multiple HOA's; one for each of the neighborhoods.
Commissioner Campbell asked if there would be any gates. Mr. Smith said
no.
Mr. Drell noted that landscape maintenance of the parkways would also be
the responsibility of the HOA's.
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Chairperson Lopez o�ened the public hearing and asked the applicant to
address the Commission.
MR. TOM HOVER, 3 San Joaquin Plaza in Newport Beach, said he
was the representative for Palm Desert Funding Corporation. He said
they worked closely with staff to prepare the document they had
before them and he was present to answer any questions.
Commissioner Finerty noticed in the book they were given that there were
four styles: Tuscan, Spanish Monterey, Santa Barbara and Desert Prairie.
She asked which architecture would require the 28 feet in height.
Mr. Hover informed Commission that they were the master developer.
They would be selling these different sites to merchant builders who
would come before them with their prospective product. The product
being shown was a prototypical product designed by their consultant
to show typical product and architectural styles. It would vary
depending on the product the builder wanted to bring in. The lots were
narrow in nature and additional height would allow more square
footage, but also provided a lot of diversity in architecture. So as far
as the different styles, it would really depend on the lot size and the
architecture that went with the builder's submittal. �
Commissioner Finerty asked for confirmation that they wouldn't know what
percentage would require a height exception.
Mr. Hover thought it would be fairly high given that the percentage of
the preponderance of the product was pretty small. There were
smaller and larger lots and the higher height would allow higher
square footage. The other thing that was popular today was a 10-foot
plate on the first floor because people like more vertical space inside
the house. On the two-story houses, there would be nine feet on the
second floor, a foot in between for the floor joist, so right there with
10, 9 and 1 they were at 20 feet. That would only allow for a very
shallow roof. The elevations in terms of the illustrations by the
architect in the book primarily reflected a steeper pitched roof.
He offered to take the Commission out on a project tour. He noted
that the property has a lot of topo on it and there was quite a bit of fall,
approximately 100 feet. It was now mass graded. So in terms of
location, there weren't any preexisting communities nearby or
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adjacent to the property, so when driving by the property, it was
difficult to discern whether it was a 24, 26 or 28 foot height because
some were below street level and some were elevated above the
slope, so it was pretty hard to discern height differences with the topo.
It was harder to ascertain the height difference because of the varying
topography.
In those areas Mr. Hover pointed out where the medium density would be,
Commissioner Finerty asked if he was saying that was where the 100-foot
fall was and that it was also below street level.
Mr. Hover replied that the 100-foot fall went all the way across the site
and identified on the map the location that was below street level (the
area east of Portola, Portola and Gerald Ford).
Commissioner Campbell asked if he would have any idea of home prices.
Mr. Hover said he could give them a range. He guessed today they
could range from the mid $300,000 to $900,000 depending on the
size and lot size, amenities and so forth.
` Commissioner Finerty asked if the$900,000 would fall under the low density.
Mr. Hover said yes.
Commissioner Finerty asked about the square footage.
Mr. Hover said they ranged from about 1,300 to 3,500 square feet.
Commissioner Finerty asked in the triplex, other than the low density, the
range of square feet.
Mr. Hover said it was in the book, but thought it was 1,700 to 2,600
square feet for the triplex.
Chairperson Lopez said the plan itself was in front of them, which was a very
attractive booklet. The booklet went through the site plan and was pretty self-
explanatory and gave them the criteria regarding the streets, the overall look
of the potential building, and the landscaping. He asked for confirmation that
the architecture was an example and was not what was going to be built.
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Mr. Hover said they were showing styles encouraged for the builders
to provide diversity within the community and diverse architectural
style. The styles were very popuiar right now. They encouraged that
diversity instead of having everyone come in with a straight forward
Mediterranean with barrel top roofs and stucco.
Chairperson Lopez stated that the "meat" of this document was really going
to be the criteria and the site plan along with the landscaping. That was really
the "meat" of the proposal. Mr. Drell said those were the standards by which
the plans would be judged. So they do set a standard for the level of detail
and authenticity of architecture. Part of the function was when one of the
merchant builders design something, they have this document to see what
is expected. They expected something as good or better in terms of the
architectural examples.
Commissioner Finerty said she knew that was what they expect, but the
problem was the Planning Commission didn't get to look at the project when
it is sold off to merchant builders. It would go to ARC and if City Council
didn't like it, they could call it up. That bothered her. She would feel better if
it could come back to the Planning Commission so they could see if what
was represented to them was what they were actually going to get. Mr. Drell
said they could make that recommendation relative to the process. He said �
it didn't need to be a public hearing, it could be a Miscellaneous agenda item
with a recommendation to the Council if they wanted to review it.
Commissioner Finerty said she really liked what she saw; she hoped it wasn't
lost in communication from what they were shown and what merchant
builders wanted to build.
Mr. Hover thanked her and said for what iYs worth, the product on
page 24 was an actual builder's product. That was their preliminary
design on a 10-acre site.
Commissioner Finerty asked for clarification if it was page 24 or page 25.
What she was seeing on page 25 wasn't as nice as on pages 58 forward.
Mr. Hover said that was preliminary and was actually done by another
architect. They weren't as far along on their design process as they
were on the other product types. He thought they would see it
enhanced in the submittals.
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Commissioner Finerty hoped he was right.
Mr. Smith assured the Commission that that project would be coming
through Planning Commission with the precise plan review. They just
received the apptication this week. In six or eight weeks they would be
seeing that project specifically.
There were no other questions. Chairperson Lopez asked if anyone wished
to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the project.
MS. MARYJO KALAMON, 74-083 Scholar Lane, said she lives at the
corner of Gerald Ford and Portola. She said this was the
neighborhood to the east. When she moved in, there was supposed
to be more green area then she was seeing at this point, so her
question to the Commission was looking at the big picture here, what
was left of the public green areas. She could see the lot divisions
drawn in the middle, but not in the other areas. She asked what
exactly was going to be on the corner of Portola and Gerald Ford, the
southeast corner. She asked what kind of housing it was proposed to
be. Her last question was the traffic problem. She asked if traffic was
going to get crazy on Portola. She asked if everyone went either east
"' to Cook to get on the freeway or west to Monterey to get on the
freeway. She asked what was going to happen with all the traffic and
how they were going to get all these people moving in out to work and
so forth. She also said parks were important.
Chairperson Lopez asked Mr. Drell to address Ms. Kalamon's concerns.
Mr. Drell agreed that the corner of Gerald Ford and Portola should have a
little more green. It didn't really show up that well on the exhibit. He thought
the depth of that landscaping on Portola was 30 feet. (Mr. Bob Ross from
RBF spoke from the audience and said it was 15-16 feet.) Mr. Drell asked if
that map was before the Commission. Mr. Smith said yes, it was the next
map on the agenda. Mr. Drell said that question would be answered then, but
the speaker should take a look at the book. She was handed a book and he
explained that it described a variety of unit types. He also said there were 11
acres of park included in the plan. One of the other developments that would
occur, when they look at that master plan of the general plan map, they were
going to have a big park at the corner of Gerald Ford and Portola, but that
had actually shifted north and the City, in association with the parcel map
that was continued to April 18, had one of the parcels the City was buying.
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It was a 30+ acre parcel which would be another community park similar to
Freedom Park which would be built there. Not on the corner, because the
price of that land was a little prohibitive, but toward the north up against the
freeway.
Mr. Drell explained that the depth of landscaping at the corner needed to be
at least 50 feet from curbline to project perimeter wall, but he said they would
be able to see that when they got to the next map on the agenda and what
those exact dimensions were. If they were not that width, they should be. But
again, the projects on Portola on the other side have about eight feet of
landscaping. Hopefully they were doing much better than that and had at
least twice that depth on this side and the 24-foot parkway. But they would
look at that map next.
Chairperson Lopez noted there was a question regarding traffic and how it
was going to be addressed.
Mr. Drell said it was studied as part of the general plan. One thing this project
had, which was unusual in terms of developments they were used to which
have very limited access where they end up with a concentration of access
that create bottlenecks. As seen in this plat, there was a street out to Portola, �
two major streets out to Gerald Ford, a street out to Cook Street and a street
out to Frank Sinatra. So the project had five major accesses to allow people
to go in every direction instead of concentrating tra�c. He used Palm Valley
Country Club as an example. He thought they had a similar number of units
and only two driveways. This had a similar number of units with five
driveways to disperse the traffic.
In terms of the recreational facilities, they hoped a lot of the trips would be
internal. A certain number of the trips would be internal to the commercial
areas which would be developing on Cook and Gerald Ford. So in the
analysis in getting origins and destinations closer together,that would reduce
traffic and congestion. That was also why they were widening Gerald Ford
to six lanes. Portola would also ultimately be widened to six lanes. In the long
term, there would be an interchange built at Portola.
In comparison to the rest of the city, this was going to be a very intensely
circufated area with lots of alternative options for people to get from place to
place, thereby reducing the traffic at any one point.
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There were no other questions. Chairperson Lopez asked if anyone else
wished to address the Commission.
Mr. Drell had another comment. He believed that ultimately there would be
a signal at Julie where College hits Portola. That would allow people on
Shepherd to have a signalized access going north and south.
There was no one else wishing to speak. Chairperson Lopez Ic osed the
public hearing and asked for Commission comments or action.
Commissioner Finerty stated that she liked what she was seeing and liked
the layout, but as stated before, she was concerned about the difference in
the book in architecture on pages 23, 25, 27, 29, 31 and 33 versus what they
were seeing on pages 58 through 65. For that reason, she would feel better
and have a level of comfort if the projects� came before the Planning
Commission after ARC review and perhaps before going to Council,
especially if there was a height exception.
Commissioner Campbell noted that this case was asking them for a
recommendation to City Council. As Mr. Smith stated, the other individual
sites, homes, etc., would come in front of the Planning Commission anyway.
""' But this was a recommendation to City Council. She said she would go
ahead and move to recommend approval to City Council. Commissioner
Tschopp said he would second the motion.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner
Tschopp, recommending approval to City Council.
Commissioner Tschopp commented that the proposal was consistent with
the general plan and it was on the lower side of inedium density. He
understood there was a considerable topography change there that could
give some latitude to different height limits on the houses. But he shared
Commissioner Finerty's comments on the expectation of extremely superior
architectural design and quality given what they were shown as examples
that would behoove the granting of those requests for heights and setbacks.
But that was the kind of standards they were looking for. So he was in favor
of this, but he would also like to see the project come back before them
given the height if it was granted. Mr. Drell said the project architecture.
Commissioner Tschopp said yes.
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Commissioner Tanner stated that he, too, was in favor of the project. He
asked for a clarification from Mr. Smith who said this would come back
before the Planning Commission as the merchant builders buy the parcels.
Mr. Smith clarified that when he responded to that he was talking about
Parcels A and B specifically in the master plan, which were cluster and triplex
units which go through a different process. Unless they specifically specify
that the architecture come back through Ptanning Commission on the single
family lots, the three maps before the Commission next on the agenda would
not through the normal course come back to Planning Commission.
That being said, Commissioner Tanner thought the project was great and
was something that particular area needed, but he too would like to see and
be able to control what goes there, as opposed to looking at a variety of
different architectural schematics. He concurred with Commissioners Finerty
and Tschopp.
Mr. Drell said this got back to their perennial discussion of architecture
versus site planning and the authority of the architectural commission and
authority of the Planning Commission. They were not going to control the
a�chitecture. That was the statutory purview of the Architectural Commission,
appealable to the City Council. They could still request as pa�t of the process
the ability to review and comment on it, which is what they normally do. �
Commissioner Finerty noted that they've had this discussion before and
stated that Planning Commission does have the authority to review what
ARC does and she has had that confirmed by members of the Council.
Commissioner Tschopp pointed out that they were being asked to grant
exceptions on something they hadn't seen that would be on the actual plans.
Mr. Drell said they weren't. Commissioner Tschopp said they were in terms
of height exceptions. Mr. Drell said they weren't granting exceptions. They
were providing the opportunity for exceptions. The exceptions wouldn't be
granted until they actually see the actual architecture. What the applicant
was suggesting and what they were obviously taking issue with was that the
exceptions would be handled through the architectural review process, which
is Architectural Review and (if called up) City Council.
Commissioner Tschopp asked for correction if he was wrong, but the way he
read this was the general plan was for 18 feet and this was granting 24 feet
with a 28-foot approval by ARC. Mr. Drell said no, in the general plan the PR
zone is 24 feet. So they are asking for, and in reality they could always ask
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for the exception, the PR zone has a very generalized exceptions section in
it. They've approved an eight-story hotel in the PR zone, which was a little
higher than 24 feet. So this was narrowing the exception a little bit. It was a
wink to the developer. The purpose of this document was to provide
guidance to a developer. It is saying that as a matter of right they are only
guaranteed 24 feet, which is what the ordinance said. If they make the case
that the various factors of interior and exterior architecture justify 28 feet,
they can ask for 28 feet. In fact, they could ask for 28 feet without this. But
again, the language in the existing PR zone allowed them to ask for anything
they wanted. This provided a little bit of an acknowledgment that there will
be reasonable consideration of heights up to 28 feet if their architecture
justified, it. If the Commission wanted as part of the process, which it
sounded like they did, in essence they wanted to provide input on that
decision and that was a recommendation they could make to be included in
this document as part of this process. Then if there was a controversy, the
Council could decide.
Chairperson Lopez asked if it would be a recommendation on the University
Master Plan and on the following items coming up. Mr. Drell said it would be
in the book because the process describes the height as being part of the
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architectural review process, which was ARC reviewable by City Council.
Commissioner Tanner asked if the recommendation for up to 28 feet was for
the entire project, not just Parcels A and B. Mr. Drell said that any unit in the
entire area would be eligible to ask for 28 feet. Again, there was no obligation
on the City to grant anything over 24 feet to anybody. So again, it was a
matter of them making the case. He noted that Falling Waters made the
case for 32 feet. Marriott made the case for 80 feet. Over the last three or
four years, mainly generated by the market desire for these larger interior
spaces, it has been more driven by the interior and the 10-foot and 9-foot
plates that people want. That adds three feet right there and gets them from
24 to 27. And then there was staff's desire to get variety. One of the criteria,
and in all the projects they have approved exceptions, he didn't think any
project has had uniformity of 28 feet or any exception, it has always been
justified by creating some ups and downs in the ridge heights and peaks that
has been a justification. If they read the exceptions section in the book, it
talked about the sort of things that would warrant an exception. But again, if
they wanted to participate in that discussion they needed to insert that as a
recommendation in the language to go to Council, in the booklet document,
to say that it would be reviewable by both ARC and Planning Commission.
They could ask for that and was why it was before them.
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Action:
Commissioner Campbell amended her motion to include Planning
Commission review. Commissioner Finerty appreciated that and also pointed
out that the applicant stated that the majority of the units would requi�e the
24 to 28 feet. Commissioner Tschopp seconded the amended motion. He
noted that they all have a very high comfort level with ARC and the Council,
but they were looking at something nice here and wanted to see that; even
if it was just four feet, it could make a big difference and they have seen
good architecture in the past and expect it on this project. So it would be nice
to have a say on it in the future.
Chairperson Lopez commented that the plan itself and the need for this
recommendation to City Council was one that gives the entire project a
guideline for builders and developers in the future. He liked this document
and the meat of it; obviously, there was a lot written into the statistics than
in the pretty pictures, but thought it was a great idea and agreed with the rest
of the Commission that they would like to be active in what does go there in
terms of the heights and height exceptions. The topography could allow a lot
of variations in that area because of the flow of the land. He personally would
like to see a lot of different things going on in there instead of just having a
tract of homes with flat roofs and that would add a lot to that particular area. �
He was in agreement to recommend approval to the City Council with the
amendment.
Chairperson Lopez called for the vote. Motion carried 5-0.
It was moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner
Tschopp, adopting the findings and Planning Commission Resolution No.
2385, recommending to City Council approval of Case No. C/Z 06-04 and the
University Park Master Plan as amended, subject to conditions. Motion
carried 5-0.
E. Case No. TT 34055 - PALM DESERT FUNDING COMPANY LP,
Applicant
Request for approval of a 244-1ot residential tentative tract map
and Negative Declaration of Environmental Impact on property
located at the southeast corner of Gerald Ford Drive and
Portola Avenue, 74-255 Gerald Ford Drive.
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Mr. Smith described the map and location and reviewed the staff report. As
indicated in the report, he said they currently don't have plans for dwellings
on the lots. The conceptual architecture in the master plan was reviewed and
granted conceptual approval. If they include an exception and if the City
Council concurs with Planning Commission's recommendation, then the
height exception would be coming back through the Planning Commission.
Regarding the question as to landscape widths along Portola and Gerald
Ford, Mr. Joy advised there was 24 feet. It was considerably in excess to the
west side of Portola. Mr. Smith recommended approval of the project, subject
to the conditions.
Mr. Drell stated that there would not be a separate Negative Declaration for
this map in that the CEQA process would be completed with the Master Plan,
so the individual maps would not require the additional CEQA analysis.
Chairperson Lopez asked if this applied to all three maps. Mr. Drell said yes.
Since they didn't have any plans for the dwellings, Commissioner Campbell
asked if it was correct they didn't know how many would be single-story and
how many would be two-story homes in this particular area. Mr. Smith said
that was correct.
~ Mr. Drell said that in theory these could be custom homes by individual
builders. Again, if they wished to review the architecture when it is submitted
to ARC,they could relay it onto Planning Commission as well. Commissioner
Finerty said that would be great.
There were no other questions for staff. Chairperson Lopez o�ened the
public hearing and asked the applicant to address the Commission.
MR. TOM HOVER, Palm Desert Funding Corporation, indicated that
this map was part of the master plan previously presented and he was
present to answer any questions.
There were no questions for the applicant. Chairperson Lopez asked if
anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposed project.
There was no one and the public hearing was clos . Chairperson Lopez
asked for Commission comments or action.
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Action:
Commissioner Finerty moved for approval with the amendment that the plans
come back through the Planning Commission after Architectural Review
Commission review.
Commissioner Campbell asked if it was known yet if these were going to be
individual lots or custom homes. Mr. Drell said he was sure they would not
be custom homes. Commissioner Campbell seconded the motion.
Mr. Smith noted that Public Works conditions of approval were distributed to
the Commission, but were not included in the draft resolution and needed to
be incorporated into the resolution. Staff indicated that they were stapled to
the staff report. Mr. Drell said they were the usual list of suspects.
Chairperson Lopez noted that they had before them a motion and a second.
He asked for any other comments or questions. There were none and he
caNed for the vote. The motion carried 5-0.
It was moved by Commissioner Finerty, seconded by Commissioner
Campbell, adopting the findings and Planning Commission Resolution No.
2386, approving Case No. TT 34074, subject to the conditions as amended. �
Motion carried 5-0.
F. Case No. TT 34057 - PALM DESERT FUNDING COMPANY LP,
Applicant
Request for approval of a 141 residential lot tentative tract map
and Negative Declaration of Environmental Impact on property
located south of Gerald Ford Dcive east of the future Pacific
Avenue, 36-200 Pacific Avenue.
Chairperson Lopez noted that this would not include the Negative
Declaration. Mr. Drell concurred. Mr. Smith reviewed the staff report and with
the addition of the Public Works conditions of approval recommended
approval.
Chairperson Lopez o ened the public hearing and asked if the applicant
wished to address the Commission. The applicant (Mr. Tom Hover) was
present, but did not have any additional comments. Chairperson Lopez
asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposal.
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There was no one and the public hearing was closed. Chairperson Lopez
asked for Commission comments or action.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Campbell to approve the findings as
presented by staff. Commissioner Finerty requested the addition of a
condition for project review by the Planning Commission after approval by
the Architectural Review Commission. The motion was seconded by
Commissioner Tschopp. Motion carried 5-0.
It was moved by Commissioner Finerty, seconded by Commissioner
Tschopp, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 2387 as amended,
approving Case No. TT 34057, subject to conditions as amended. Motion
carried 5-0.
G. Case No. TT 34074 - PALM DESERT FUNDING COMPANY LP,
Applicant
Request for approval of a 72-lot residential tentative tract map
and Negative Declaration of Environmental Impact on property
� located south of Gerald Ford Drive and east of the future
Pacific Avenue, 74-300 College Drive.
(The Negative Declaration was removed and the CEQA determination
changed to previously assessed under Case No. C/Z 06-04 and the
University Park Master Plan.)
Mr. Smith reviewed the staff report and recommended approval, subject to
the addition of the Public Works conditions into the draft resolution.
Mr. Drell said he had one minor clarification relative to the public/private
street question. In that these parks are public parks, although the streets will
be privately maintained, there will be public easements on the accesses to
the public parks guaranteeing that those public parks would be available
within the city, as well as to the people on Shepherd Lane. He said that
would include a dog park in the middle which would be a public facifity like
all of our public facilities and available to all residents in the city.
Commissioner Finerty asked how it was that there was going to be private
funding, she assumed through HOA dues, for public streets. Mr. Drell said
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there wouldn't be. It would be a private street with a public easement on it as
opposed to public streets owned by the City. Most all other streets are
actually dedicated in fee to the City. The anomaly was the fact that these are
public parks which they had to insure public access to, but it didn't make
sense to have some streets within the project publicly maintained and
privately maintained. So the developer agreed to keep them all private,
maintain them all, but agreed to place a public easement. It was no different
then the parking structures at the mall that have public easements on them,
yet they are privately owned and privately maintained.
Commissioner Tanner asked Mr. Smith if the exterior would be walled or an
open community. Mr. Smith said it would be walled along Gerald Ford,
Portola, Pacific, College and University. Mr. Drell said that as designed, all
the lots back on and will have pretty generous 24-foot parkways with a
curbside street tree program, off the curb sidewalks, and all the main streets
would have a bike path. Commissioner Tanner said that the public parks
would not really be accessible except through entering into that
neighborhood using those streets. Mr. Drell said that was correct. That was
why they were ungated and why there were public easements. In function,
the streets accessing the parks would be public streets. The�e would be
public easements on them in perpetuity. From the City's point of view, it was
the best of all possible worlds. "�
With this development being walled and the development to the west being
walled, Commissioner Tschopp pointed out that the requirement for the bus
shelter, but had no access from the interior of the development out to that
bus shelter on Gerald Ford. He asked if it was anticipated that other bus
shelters would be built on Pacifica or College Drive. Mr. Smith said that
Sunline was in the process of coming up with a plan. Unfortunately, they
were working on the best available information at this point.
Commissioner Tschopp said it seemed that being the pedestrian friendly
area they were trying to encourage, to have a bus site out on Gerald Ford
without access to the interior units being built that would house the people
that would use the bus seemed to be somewhat out of line.
Mr. Drell said that was a good point and there probably should be, especially
in that first tract (TT 34055), pedestrian access because they have almost a
quarter mile along Gerald Ford. College has numerous access points. Where
there was little access was onto Gerald Ford or Portola for that tract they
already looked at. Commissioner Tschopp thought the bus stop should be
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on College Drive. Mr. Drell agreed that it should be on College Drive adjacent
to one of the access streets or both access streets. They've anticipated,
although staff hadn't seen it yet, that College Drive would be an ideal route
for the bus and it would get people to Berger, which accessed the
commercial and the residential, one side of the street or the other, and it
would keep the bus off of the congestion of Cook and those intersections.
They were trying to make the case to Sunline that College is where the bus
should be going to maximize the ability to pick up both residences and
commercial patrons and college students. He asked how that condition was
worded. Mr. Smith said they got one memo from Sunline asking them not to
do anything and then a memo from the City's transportation person
requesting it on Gerald Ford saying that if there were no buses there when
the tracts go forward, then the condition may be waived.
Chairperson Lopez said the Sunline memo stated that they were reviewing
it. Mr. Drell agreed and indicated that it said not to start putting bus stops in
places until they know thaYs where they want them. Mr. Smith said they have
a philosophical difference relative to bus pullouts. They were going in with
both hands tied behind their backs. Mr. Drell said that Sunline's position was
for 24 feet. They have room to put in bus stops. Sunline's other position is
that over time bus stops change as areas develop. The locations shift around
� and they aren't in a position to say this is where they want investments. He
said current costs of a turnout shelter combination was approximately
$50,000 and was a considerable expense until they know where they want
it.
Chairperson Lopez opened the pubiic hearing and asked if the applicant had
any additional comments. Mr. Tom Hover spoke from the audience and said
no.
Chairperson Lopez asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION to the proposed project. There was no one and the public
hearing was close . Chairperson Lopez asked for Commission comments
or action.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Campbeil, seconded by Commissioner
Finerty, approving the findings as presented by staff. Motion carried 5-0.
It was moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner
Finerty, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 2388 as amended,
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approving Case No. TT 34074, subject to conditions as amended to include
project review by the Planning Commission after Architectural Review
Commission approval relative to height exceptions. Motion carried 5-0.
IX. MISCELLANEOUS
None.
X. COMMITTEE MEETING UPDATES
A. ART IN PUBLIC PLACES
Commissioner Campbell reported that there was no meeting.
B. LANDSCAPE COMMITTEE
Commissioner Finerty reported that the Landscape Committee would
meet on April 5.
C. PROJECT AREA 4 COMMITTEE
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Commissioner Finerty reported that the meeting was canceled.
XI. COMMENTS
None.
XII. ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Commissioner Tschopp, seconded by Commissioner
Campbell, adjourning the meeting by minute motion. Motion carried 5-0. The
meeting was adjourned at 7:20 p.mr—�
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