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HomeMy WebLinkAbout0206 �i'""T"" "`� MINUTES ��� PALM DESERT P�ANNWG COMMISSION . � � �_�� _� � , , TUESDAY - FEBRUARY 6, 2007 � � � � � � � � � � � . � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � I. CALL TO ORDER Chairperson Campbell called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. II. PLEDGE OF AL�EGIANCE Commissioner Tanner led in the pledge of aliegiance. OI. ROLI. CAL� Members Present: Sonia Campbell, Chair Dave Tschopp, Vice Cnair Connor Limont Mari Schmidt Van Tanner Members Absent: None Staff Present: Steve Smith, Acting Dir. of Community Development Dave Erwin, CiYy Attorney Ryan Stendell, Assistant Planner Phil Joy, Associate Transportation Planner Tonya Monroe, Administrative Secretary IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Request for consideration of the January 16, 2007 meeting minutes. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Tschopp, seconded by Chairperson Campbeli, approving the Jan�ary 16, 2d07 meeting minutes. Motion carried 4-0-1 (Commissioner Tanner abstained). MINUTES PAI.M DESERT P�ANNING COMMISSION FEBRUARY 6 2007 V. SUMMARY OF COUNCI� ACTION Mr. Smith summarized pertinent January 25, 2007 City Councii actions. VI. ORAL COMMUNIGATIONS None. VII. CONSENT CALENDAR None. VIII. PUBLIC HEARWGS Anyone who chalienges any hearing matter in court may be limited to raising only those issues he, she or someone else raised at the pubiic hearing described herein, or in written correspondence delivered to tne Planning Commission at, or prior to, the public hearing. A. Case No. PP 06-11 - STUDIO E ARCHITECTS, Applicant (Continued from November 21 and December 19, 2006 and January 16, 2007) Request for approval of a precise plan of design for a 2,770 square foot World Savings Bank at 73-051 Highway 111, APN 627-192-043. Commissioner Limont and Commissioner Schmidt both stated for the record that they Iistened to past meeting tapes for Case No. PP 06-11 (November 21 and December 19, 2006} and reviewed the supporting documents and plans and were eiigible to vote on this matter. Mr. Smith distributed a Iandscape comment sheet received Iate this afternoon from Diane Hollinger of the Landscape Division. He said that in the memo she indicated a few minor issues, which he thought basically said the landscaping is almost there. One issue was tne number of trees in the parking area. There is a code requirement for a certain minimum number and it looked like there needed to be one or two more trees. Secondly, on the west side of the building they were showing a series of tall palm trees 2 MINUTES PALM DESERT P�ANNING COMMISSION FEBRUARY 6 2007 and he definiteiy concurred that they needed some canopy trees in that area. But other than that, that part of the plan had been taken care of. Relative to the architecture, Mr. Smith said the matter was before the Commission at their last meeting and the indication seemed to be if they had adequate Iandscape treatment on that west elevation, probably the improvement to the architecture versus what they had seen back in November, that it was probably ready to proceed. With the modifications necessary to appease the Iandscape folks, staff recommended approval, subject to conditions, including the additional conditions relative to iandscaping. Commissioner Tschopp clarified that stafF's recommendation was to take into consideration and incorporate Ms. Hollinger's landscape recommendations into the plans prior to going to Council. Mr. Smith clarified that the plan wouldn't necessarily go to Councii. There were no exceptions to code that would necessitate that. If the matter were approved at this body, it wouid be complete at Planning Commission unless appealed. Commissioner Tschopp said that the pians to be approved would incorporate Ms. Hoilinger's requirements including additional boulders and Iow plant material. Mr. Smith thought she was looking for medium material as shown in the rendered photograph, which had fairly tall palms and they've got quite a bit of shrub material at the base, but they didn't have anything in tne middle. Commissioner Tschopp asked if those would be incorporated into the landscape pian. Mr. Smith said yes. Staff was willing to go forward with this, but only if they added this. Commissioner Tanner noted that as they went through Diane Nollinger's Iist, it appeared that the east side of the building did not have adequate shade for the parking and asked if that was something the City was required to do or if it was a requirement of Wacnovia. Mr. Smith ciarified that there was a code requirement of one shade tree for every three parking spaces. In the memo Ms. Hollinger noted it for the benefit of Iandscape architect that it was a requirement they would have to comply with. Commissioner Schmidt indicated that in the staff report the buiiding was described as 25 feet high and on the drawing 24. She asked which was correct. Mr. Smith agreed that the drawings indicated 24, but the applicant 3 MINUTES PALM DESERT PLANNING GOMMISSION FEBRUARY 6 2007 at the Iast meeting said 25, so he went with the more egregious number and thought the applicant could address that when he comes fonroard. Commissioner Schmidt said she would defer the rest of her questions for tne applicant. Chairperson Campbell stated that the public hearing was open and asked the applicant to address the Commission. MR. JOHN SHEEHAN, Studio E Architects in San Diego, California, came forward. He clarified that the buiiding would be 24 feet high. Commissioner Schmidt thought that was better. He agreed and said he had with him some additional material (bigger versions of what they aiready had) and also brought back the model and color materials board, which he distributed. Ne said he would like to respond to questions. And also present was a representative from the bank, Mr. Steve Miiler, who could address any operational concerns that might come up, in addition to his landscape architect who couid address the Diane Hollinger memo or other specific questions. Mr. Sheehan said they worked with their Iandscape architect and the Citys landscape review staff person and made significant strides forward in addressing some of the concerns expressed at the Iast meeting. He was happy to take questions. Chairperson Campbell asked for confirmation that Mr. Sheehan had a copy of Diane Holiinger's memo and asked if he was comfortable with what she said in her memo. Mr. Sheehan had the memo and deferred the question of comfort to the Iandscape architect to address that specificaily. Commissioner Schmidt asked if the drawings that they received in their packets were what they were being asked to approve. Mr. Sheehan said that was correct. 4 MINUTES PA�M DESERT P�ANNING COMMISSION FEBRUARY 6 2007 Commissioner Schmidt said that nothing had changed much from their last meeting, except Iandscaping and the height of the building. Mr. Sheehan said that was correct, in addition to some concrete definition of building colors and materials which were being passed around. But no substantive changes from the last meeting. On the site plan, Commissioner Schmidt asked if there was more than one ingress and egress to the site. When entering from Highway 111, she asked if someone had to exit onto Highway 111 or if they would still be able to exit at the south end of the parking area. Mr. Sheehan said there is a way to get into the bank's parking area from Highway 111, which he thought was really clear. Then there was a second means of getting into the bank's parking Iot through an existing parking lot which is accessed from Highway 74. He pointed out how to enter the existing parking area and said it would remain. Commissioner Schmidt asked if one handicapped parking space was adequate. Mr. Sheehan said in their review with the bank, they felt it was sufficient. Commissioner Schmidt asked about the number of employees. Mr. Miller spoke from the audience and said four. Commissioner Scnmidt commented that she had been concerned about 18 parking spaces if tnere were going to be substantially more employees. Commissioner Schmidt asked for confirmation that the mechanical equipment was no longer going to be on the rooftop. Mr. Sheehan said that was correct. They were exploring the possibility of putting it down in the landscape area south of the lower portion of the buiiding. He said there was a natural depression there presentiy and with plant material or a low wail, it wouid be screened. Commissioner Schmidt thought code required a wail or fence and asked if he would comply. She noted that the screening wasn't shown on the drawing. 5 MINUTES PALM DESERT PLANNING GOMMISSION FEBRUARY 6 2007 Mr. Sheehan confirmed they wouid compiy. Commissioner Schmidt asked about the Iocation of trash receptacies. Mr. Sheehan said that because aII the trash was sensitive bank information/customer information, it is shredded and picked up by a service severai times a week, so there is no trash enciosure. He confirmed that everything in the bank, including the empioyee kitchen trash, would aIi be picked up by a service and recycled and there would be no trash trucks or enclosures. That is standard operating procedures for this bank. Commissioner Schmidt noted there was a roof pitch on the high part of the building and asked what material was being used. Mr. Sheehan said it would either be a built-up system or metal system. They weren't sure yet. Commissioner Schmidt said she spend quite a bit of time peering down on that site from up on Highway 74 coming northbound down the hill and said it would be extraordinarily visibie, so it should be pretty. She asked if that was something they had to approve, the material. Mr. Sheehan indicated that in their computer modeling of the site, because Highway 74 is bending at that point, by the time the site comes into view they are actually a lot lower than they might othervvise think. Even when they were at the intersection of EI Paseo and Highway 74, that was just about when they could start seeing the site. That was a concern they had as well. They wanted to insure that the bank has a good appearance from all angies. Commissioner Schmidt agreed that it had to. She asked about the signage on the Highway 111 fascia of the buiiding. It appeared to be cut outs above the overhang. She asked if there was any other way they would do it. Mr. Sheehan said they could explore signage alternatives with the DRB folks. He wasn't sure how signage was handled in general in the city. 6 MINUTES PA�M DESERT P�ANNING COMMISSION FEBRUARY 6 2007 Commissioner Schmidt quite honestly thought this sign took away from their building. Not the one on the other side. For her it was too mid century. She asked about the lighting and if it was something addressed later on. She hoped it would be low key and from the ground shining up into tne trees. Mr. Smith said that was covered by the City's Dark Sky Ordinance and certain Iights were permitted. Any parking lot lighting had to meet the maximum three-foot candles. Commissioner Schmidt asked for and received confirmation that someone looks at that carefully. Commissioner Schmidt said she was really trying to like this building, but this is a signature building and she was very worried, particularly about the color of the building. Mr. Sheehan concurred. He confirmed that they are still using white. There were tnree arguments that they were putting forward as to why it is white. One is that the EI Paseo and Highway 74 intersection is now flanked by a pair of pretty handsome, substantially white buildings. They felt this one couid benefit from that as a grouping with a famiiiar feel or set pieces. Second, it is a color one associates with traditional desert architecture/Spanish such as the La Quinta Hotel. Thirdly, it wouid be a facade that would accept really colorful landscaping out in front of it. It would be a kind of foil to the reds in the Ocotillo and the lime greens in the other plant materials. Those were tneir arguments. Commissioner Schmidt asked for clarificatio� that there will be eight-foot sidewalks, not six-foot sidewalks. The drawings said six, but she thought Mr. Smith was looking for eight feet. Mr. Smith said it would be whatever Public Works Department dictates as covered by their conditions. If it says eight feet n the conditions, that is what the sidewalks would be. Mr. Sheehan said that was fine. Commissioner Tschopp asked if the landscape architect wouid be addressing the Commission. Mr. Sheehan said yes, if he's permitted. MR. HARRY MESTINECK with Ivy Landscape Architects, 434 West Cedar Street in San Diego, Caiifornia, stated that to date they have 7 MINUTES PALM DESERT PLANIdING COMMISSION FEBRUARY 6 2007 had several review discussions with Diane Hollinger and he believed those discussions had been fruitful. They've been modifying their pian. As Mr. Smith mentioned, they were just handed this Iatest round of comments from Diane, but in a quick review of them, they aiso feei they are minor and continue to move in the direction of their discussions. He said he wauld go through them and make comment. Mr. Mestineck said that on occasion Diane has reminded them that the project abuts the Caltrans right-of-way and if the project moves forward, they will certainly apply to have the project, the landscape, and street edge improvements reviewed by that authority. The second comment said that it appeared that the east side of the building doesn't meet the City's parking lot shade tree ordinance. He said there are 18 stalls and there needs to be one per three. He said they do have six trees on the plan, and he thought the iwo trees closest to the building do get a little bit away from the curb of the parking lot, so they would be happy to work with her on refining those Iocations and a little cioser to cars and doing the job that they are meant to do with respect to shading. They felt that was a minor comment that they could accomplish. The third comment was the need for some canopy trees along the west side of the building. At the last round they addecf more mid size material iike the Ocotillo and some agaves, but he didn't obJect to maybe bringing in some Palo Verde trees, which they are proposing for the parking Iot, and have those populate that west side of the building. He thought that would give a little more horizontal quality there. He said they would be happy to work with Diane on the final locations and quantities. The next statement was that the building needs more dramatic landscaping to complement the architecture and Diane went on to say that the plant material chosen was rather iow with tali palms and nothing in between. He thought with the addition of piants Iike the tailer agaves, the Ocotillo and the addition of the Palo Verde trees that would help them move toward accomplishing tnat goai and there was no objection there. Next was that tne boulders are lacking. He said they have in excess of 30 boulders called out in the pian. They were sort of equally strewn 8 MINUTES PA�M DESERT P�ANNING COMMISSION FEBRUARY 6 2007 about the landscape zone and if City staff felt that wasn't enough or that they needed to be rearranged and have stronger populations of boulders here and there, he wouid be happy to work with Diane on that aspect. Mr. Messineck said the next issue was that the plants needed to be revised per the City's plant palette guide. To date, he believed they were attempting to follow those guidelines, but if they were amiss in a few areas with a few species, he would again welcome the opportunity to sit down with Diane and have her show them where they aren't in compliance and they would make those changes. So no real objection to these late comments and their history to date has been to have a good dialogue and their goal is to meet every single requirement put upon them. if the Commission felt they want to include these items as design conditions, they were happy to comply with them. He confirmed there were no objections whatsoever. There were no other questions. Chairperson Campbell asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposed project. There was no one and the pubiic hearing was ciosed. Chairperson Campbell asked for Commission for comments. Commissioner Tanner noted that he wasn't at the last meeting, but he did listen to the tape of the last meeting of this particular plan. As he toid Mr. Sheehan previously, Commissioner Tanner wasn't sure that Mr. Sheehan realiy realized what Palm DeserYs architecture was all about. He thanked Mr. Sheehan for bringing something back with softer touches; however, as far as he was concerned it was stiil just too square and too harsn. He was of the opinion that is a very focal point of Palm Desert, California, and he would Iike to see something a little less squared and something a littie more in tune with Palm Desert. Those were his feelings. He, too, wouid Iike to see a lot more landscaping, especially on the Highway 74 side. And on the north side iYs basically just a Flat wali. He didn't think it was the right thing for that particular Iot in his opinion. Commissioner �imont agreed with Commissioners Tanner and Schmidt in that she would Iove to like the building and she didn't. IYs not oniy a focal point for Paim Desert, it Ieads into the beile of Palm Desert, which is EI Paseo, and that's a prime entrance for people coming from the north to the 9 MINUTES PALM DESERT P�ANNING COMMISSION FEBRUARY 6 2d07 south and coming into Palm Desert through Monterey, Highway 74 and up to the Palms to Pines Highway. Additionally, Commissioner Limont agreed with Commissioner Tanner that the building was too square, too modern, and she didn't see how it reflected the architecture of Palm Desert and what they are trying to achieve as a city. Her only suggestion might be to go over and Iook at the Visitor's Center, not that they would replicate it, but it makes the statement of what Palm Desert is heading towards as far as their architecture. Commissioner Tschopp said he wasn't enamored with the architectural style, but he never reaily Iiked that era of architecture. He thought the building looked like it beionged more in Palm Springs than Palm Desert; however, having said that, he wasn't that opposed to the architecture of the building. And given that it has Architectural Review Commission approvai, complies with the code, is consistent with the general plan and is much lower than a buiiding could be on that corner, he would be more in favor of approving it because with the additional Iandscapi�g as outlined, he thought it could be made to look fairly attractive there. Commissioner Schmidt said she wanted to revise what she said earlier. Mr. Sheehan's building is a beautifui building, he had done it very weli and she appreciated that. Her problem is that building on that corner. In her view it would be too massive for that entrance to the city. W hat she was trying to do was justify mitigating the mass of it with a color. She drove up and down EI Paseo a couple of times and up and down Highway 111 and it seemed to her that if it were a more muted sail, it would fit better into the entire plane there. This building would be ours once it was built and would be there a very Iong time. It might end up in Palm Springs Life with other mid century architects. She just could not vote for it and she wanted him to hear that in case he didn't want them to vote and wanted to go back to the drawing board again. She knew ne worked hard and there had been several meetings. The message seemed to have the same thread through it. No one really likes that type of building on that corner. She neard it from just about everyone, including staff. She didn't now where to go with that. Mr. Sheehan spoke from the audience. Chairperson Campbell pointed out that the public hearing was closed. Commissioner Schmidt asked if he wouid have a chance to respond at some point. Chairperson Campbell said no. 10 MINUTES PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION FEBRUARY 6 2007 Chairperson Campbell commented that Mr. Sheehan has come a Iong way from the first meeting they had back in November. At that time he was turned down all the way around. She agreed with Commissioner Tschopp and actuaily liked the building. She liked the Iines of the building. It was more angular on the north side, but has the softness in the south area. With adequate Iandscaping and aIl tne other conditions contained in Diane Hollinger's memo, which the applicant was willing to do, she liked the building. Commissioner Tanner asked if that was a motion. Action: Commissioner Tschopp said he would make a motion to approve the project with the Iandscape recommendations incorporated into the conditions of approvai. Chairperson Campbell seconded the motion. Motion failed 2-3. Mr. Erwin advised that Chairperson Campbeli shouid instruct the staff to prepare a resolution of denial for the next meeting. Chairperson Campbell asked if Mr. Smith would prepare that for the next meeting. Mr. Smith said yes. Commissioner Tschopp said it was his understanding that the hearing would remain open. Mr. Erwin said the hearing was closed. Commissioner Tschopp recailed that in the past when they asked staff to prepare a resolution of denial, Commission decided that they would leave the public hearing open until the following meeting. He asked if that was correct. Mr. Erwin stated that if they wished to do that they needed to reopen the hearing. It could be reopened because no one has left. Chairperson Campbell reopened the public hearing, noting that there couid be another staff report. Mr. Smith said it was unlikely there wouid be another staff report. Mr. Erwin advised that a motion shouid be made to continue the hearing to the next regular meeting. Action: It was moved by Chairperson Campbell, seconded by Commissioner Tschopp, by minute motion continuing the pubiic hearing to the next meeting on February 20, 2007. Motion carried 5-0. 11 MINUTES PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION FEBRUARY 6 2007 B. Case No. CUP 07-02 - JING TAO, Applicant Request for approval of a conditional use permit to operate a 685 square foot massage establishment at 74-350 Alessandro Drive, Suite B-4. Mr. Ryan Stendell reviewed the staff report and recommended approval, subject to conditions. Chairperson Campbell opened the public hearing and asked the applicant to address the Commission. MR. PAUL ROHE, 22195 Emerald Street in Grand Terrace, California, addressed the Commission with his wife and stated that his wife wouid like to open a business in Palm Desert. They moved to this area from the L.A. area. With the number of visitors to this area, they thought they would have a good business here. Chairperson Campbell asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposai. There was no one and the public hearing was closed. Chairperson Campbell asked for Commission comments or action. Commissioner Schmidt asked the City Attorney andlor staff if the conditional use permit ran with the property and as long as this ownership or future owners use it as conditioned, then the permit stands. Mr. Erwin said that was correct. Commissioner Schmidt asked what could revoke that permit. Mr. Erwin replied non use for a period of time, six monthsl180 days or someone coming in and applying for a different use. Commissioner Schmidt asked for and received confirmation that a change of ownership would not revoke the permit. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Tschopp, seconded by Commissioner Tanner, approving the findings as presented by staff. Motion carried 5-0. It was moved by Commissioner Tschopp, seconded by Commissioner Tanner, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 2432, approving Case No. CUP 07-02, subject to conditions. Motion carried 5-0. 12 MINUTES PA�M DESERT P�ANNING COMMISSION FEBRUARY 6 2007 C. Case No. CUP 07-03 - WENJI PIAO, Applicant Request for approval of a conditional use permit to operate a 928 square foot massage establishment at 73-891 Highway 111 . Mr. Ryan Stendeil reviewed the staff report and recommended approvai, subject to conditions. Commissioner Schmidt asked about hours of operation. Mr. Stendeil said it hadn't been covered, but they could get ciarification from the applicant and would add it into the resolution of approval if they wisned. Chairperson Campbeii noted it should also include days a week. Chairperson Campbeli o ened the public hearing and asked the applicant to address the Commission. MR. JAMES KIM, 23824 Ridgepoint Court in Moreno Valley, California, 92557, said he was present to help answer questions about operations. MR. WENJI PIAO, 73-891 Highway 111 and 73-897 Highway 1 1 1 , Palm Desert, was also present. Chairperson Campbell asked if they had anything to add to tne staff report and asked for the proposed days and hours of operation. Mr. Piao said he has an office in Palm Springs. Most peopie come to Paim Desert, so he wanted to open a second office in Palm Desert. He would Iike to be open Monday, Wednesday and Friday in Palm Desert and Tuesday and Thursday in the Palm Springs downtown office. Chairperson Campbeil clarified that it would be three days a week here. Mr. Piao said they wouid also like to hire a massage therapist. Chairperson Campbeli asked about the hours of operation. 13 MINUTES PA�M DESERT P�ANNING COMMISSION FEBRUARY 6 2007 Mr. Piao said that the massage therapy would be from 9:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. and the acupuncturist from 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. There were no otner questions for the appiicant. Chairperson Campbell asked if anyone would Iike to speak in FAVOR or OPPOSITION to the proposal. There was no one and the public hearing was ciosed. Chairperson Campbell asked for Commission comments or action. Action: It was moved by Commissioner Tanner, seconded by Commissioner Limont, approving the findings as presented by staff. Motion carried 5-0. It was moved by Commissioner Tanner, seconded by Commissioner Limont, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 2433, approving Case No. CUP 07-03, subject to conditions. Motion carried 5-0. (A condition was added limiting hours of operation from 9:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m., seven days a week.) IX. MISCELLANEOUS A. Brown Act and Conflict of Interest Review by Bob Hargreaves For the benefit of the new commissioners and as a refresher for the other commissioners and staff, Mr. Erwin reviewed the Brown Act, Conflicts of Interest and Ethics. He said if they had any questions, they should feel free to call him, or Bob Hargreaves, at any time. Action: None. X. E�ECTION OF COMMITTEE LIAISONS Continued discussion of a Pianning Commission liaison to ihe Project Area 4 Committee. Chairperson Campbell noted that at the Iast meeting committee liaisons were seiected for the Art in Public Places Committee, �andscape Committee and Parks & Recreation Commission. Staff had indicated that 14 MINUTES PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION FEBRUARY 6 2007 a Iiaison for the Project Rrea 4 Committee wasn't necessary, but if a commissioner wished to attend those meetings, they could. Commissioner Limont volunteered to be the Project Area 4 Committee liaison, noting that their next meeting would be in March. Action: Commissioner Limont volunteered to be liaison to the Project Area 4 Committee. XI. COMMITTEE MEETING UPDATES A. ART IN PUBLIC PLACES Chairperson Campbell indicated there hadn't been a meeting since the last Planning Commission meeting. B. LANDSCAPE COMMITTEE Commissioner �imont summarized Landscape Committee discussion items. � C. PROJECT AREA 4 COMMITTEE None. D. PARKS & RECREATION Commissioner Tanner reviewed Parks & Recreation discussion items, noting that the Freedom Park grand opening would take place in May. XII. COMMENTS Relative to developers requesting meetings with individual commissioners, Mr. Smith expiained that typically staff would contact the commissioner letting them know who was wishing to contact them and giving them their phone number. If they chose to respond, that's 15 MINUTES PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION FEBRUARY 6 2007 fine. If they chose not to respond, that's fine. He noted that they currently have a developer seeking contact for an item that may be on the next agenda, the timeshare project at Desert Willow and Tonya wouid have information if they wished to contact them. Commissioner Tanner said that he and Chairperson Campbeil visited the Hagadone property together. He asked if that created a potential Brown Act situation. Mr. Erwin said if there were only two, no. Commissioner Tanner said from a discussion standpoint, they could not discuss with any other commissioner their talk. Mr. Erwin said that was correct, not untii they get back into a public meeting. He always suggests that they state for the record tnat they have physically visited the premises so no one questions it. Commissioner Tanner disciosed that he was contacted by an individual who said there is a project coming before the Commission for high density apartments and the company wanted to contact commissioners and put them on their private jet and take them to Las Vegas. Mr. Erwin said that he would send them the requirements if they wanted to do that. He said they cleared it with the FPPC (Fair Political Practices Commission). The offer has to be made to the City/the City Manager, not to the commissioners. The City Manager then decides who, if anyone, is to utilize it and the City needs to pay alI of the costs. Commissioner Tanner said he told that individuai he wasn't going to do anytning until he cleared it with Bob Hargreaves. Mr. Erwin said it could be done. He wasn't sure the Councii was going to approve something like that because there are policies in effect in the City that say if you are traveling, you take the least expensive method of getting there and a private jet is not the least expensive way of getting there. But there is a way and they have it in written form if they wanted to read it. Commissioner Schmidt asked if the purpose of the excursion would be to see a similar project. Commissioner Tanner said yes, to see a couple of existing projects. Mr. Smith indicated that was also one of his concerns. He wanted a reasonable assurance that the property they would be going to see is in fact similar to the one being proposed. 16 �niNurEs , PA�M DESERT P�ANNING COMMfSS10N FEBRUARY 6 20d7 � � There were no other camments and Chairperson Cempbell asked for a motion to adjourn. Xlii. ADJOURNMENT It was moved by Commissioner Tanner, seconded by Commissioner Limont, adjourning the meeting by minute motion. Motion carried 5-0. The meeting was adjourned at 7:12 p.m. ' S E EN R. SMITH, Acting Sec tary ATTEST: l� '� � �( � -s�-°--,r�-�i--e� ONIA M. CAMPBELL, Chairperson � Palm Desert Planning Commission �; /tm � � 17