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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY — OCTOBER 6, 2009
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Tanner called the meeting to order at 6:03 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Van Tanner, Chair
Connor Limont, Vice Chair
Sonia Campbell
Nancy DeLuna
Members Absent: Mari Schmidt
Staff Present: Lauri Aylaian, Director of Community Development
Dave Erwin, City Attorney
Jill Tremblay, Acting City Attorney
Tony Bagato, Principal Planner
Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner
Pedro Rodriguez, Senior Code Officer
Tonya Monroe, Administrative Secretary
III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Campbell led in the pledge of allegiance.
IV. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION
Ms. Aylaian summarized pertinent August 27, September 10, and September
24, 2009 City Council actions.
V. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None.
VI. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Request for consideration of the August 4, 2009 meeting minutes.
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Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Limont, seconded by Commissioner DeLuna,
approving the August 4, 2009 meeting minutes. Motion carried 4-0
(Commissioner Schmidt was absent).
VII. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Case Nos. PP 06-18 and CUP 06-15 —JOHN WANG, Applicant
Request for approval of a one-year time extension for the
Candlewood Suites Hotel located at 75-144 Gerald Ford
Drive.
Commissioner Limont asked if this extension fell under AB 333. Mr.
Bagato explained that AB 333 applied only to maps, so they were asking
for their own extension.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner
Limont, approving the Consent Calendar by minute motion. Motion carried
4-0 (Commissioner Schmidt was absent).
Vill. PUBLIC HEARINGS
Anyone who challenges any hearing matter in court may be limited to
raising only those issues he, she or someone else raised at the public
hearing described herein, or in written correspondence delivered to the
Planning Commission at, or prior to, the public hearing.
A. Case No. VAR 09-330 — CAMBRIA/ CANDICE KNOX, Applicant
Request for approval of a variance to allow an exception to
Palm Desert Municipal Code Section 25.68 Signs, to permit a
second wall sign on the same building frontage for Cambria
located at 42-210 Cook Street.
Assistant Planner Kevin Swartz informed the Commission that the
applicant submitted in writing, which they had in front of them, a
request for continuance to the next meeting in November. When staff
received the request, the legal notice had already been sent out and
the meeting advertised. A staff report and resolution has been
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prepared. If the Commission wished, he would continue with the public
hearing, or they could continue it to the next meeting in November.
Commissioner Campbell asked if there was anyone present regarding
this public hearing. If they were, they should hear from them.
Chairperson Tanner stated that it was his opinion that they should not
continue it, but proceed and vote. Commissioners Campbell, DeLuna
and Limont agreed. Chairperson Tanner asked for the staff report.
Mr. Swartz reviewed the staff report. He noted that the Architectural
Review Commission recommended denial based on the fact that they
felt that the two signs created clutter on the building. Staff also
recommended denial and recommended that the Planning
Commission adopt the draft resolution denying Case No. VAR 09-330.
Commissioner DeLuna asked if they had permission to move the
Cambria sign from the center of the building over to the corner. Mr.
Swartz said no. Commissioner DeLuna noted that there were actually
two issues: they moved the sign over and then stuck another one on
the same side. Mr. Swartz stated that was correct, but indicated that
the signs meet the code, so if they shifted it over, all that the applicant
would have to do was submit a new site plan and that could be
approved. But the issue was the second sign that was added onto the
building. Mr. Swartz noted that both signs on that elevation meet the
sign criteria in regard to size.
There were no other questions of staff. Chairperson Tanner opened
the public hearing and asked if the applicant or a representative was
present to address the Commission.
MS. CANDICE KNOX, the applicant for Cambria, stated that
she worked at the design center at this location. They were
asking for a continuance and were hoping they could have
representation from their home office in Minnesota. But she
was present.
She said the bottom line of what Cambria is looking at is that
they've come to Palm Desert to do business; they are a
national American family-owned company. They employ ten
people in the Palm Desert area and have been very active as
far as giving back to the community. She respected the
Architectural Review Board and the one thing she wanted to
say was that it wasn't a unanimous decision. She understood
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that the code strives for one sign per location with the criteria
being that it is not cluttered and in proportion, which she
believed was what they have here. So looking at the situation
as it is, they still didn't have a unanimous decision saying that
it's a problem.
Ms. Knox said she had letters from the owner of the property
saying that he is very happy with them being a tenant. Anybody
within the empty spaces that are there is brought to their
gorgeous design center. They just received three design
awards from the American Society of Interior Design for three
of the vignettes in their design center and their six vignettes
were done by professionals of ASID here in the community.
She would be having a board meeting for ASID. They open
their doors at the design center for a lot of different community
groups. The feedback they've had from the community is that
they are a great asset. They think their signs are beautiful, their
showroom is gorgeous, and she guessed for Cambria, their
feeling is that they are just trying to do business here and their
feeling that she was getting back from them is that they just
want to do everything possible to make sure they can do
business here. They believed with the way that they do their
presentations and the way that Cambria promotes itself
nationally and in Canada that this was the way they wanted to
be seen by the community and to insure that no one misses
them and drives by. They thought it was well done and in good
taste and hoped it could stay there. That was their intention.
Commissioner DeLuna expressed delight that they are here and
welcomed Cambria to Palm Desert. She asked if they were aware that
they were not allowed to have two signs on the same side of the
building when they put the second sign up.
Ms. Knox said no, she would not have been. They have a
national sign company. She personally wasn't a parry to that
and when it came up before Architectural Review, the
representative from Cambria apologized.
Commissioner DeLuna thanked her. Chairperson Tanner asked if
there were any other questions. There were none. Chairperson
Tanner asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR of or in
OPPOSITION to the variance. There was no one and the public
hearing was closed. Chairperson Tanner asked for Commission
comments or action.
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Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Limont, seconded by Commissioner
DeLuna, approving the findings and recommendation as presented by staff.
Motion carried 4-0 (Commissioner Schmidt was absent).
It was move by Commissioner Limont, seconded by Commissioner
DeLuna, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 2512, denying
Variance 09-330. The motion carried 4-0 (Commissioner Schmidt was
absent).
B. Case No. CUP 07-03 — CITY OF PALM DESERT, Applicant
Request for revocation of an existing conditional use permit
for a massage therapy massage establishment in a 928
square foot retail suite located at 73-891 Highway 111.
Business Owner: Jeon Suyong.
Assistant Planner Kevin Swartz reviewed the staff report, noting that a
Declaration was submitted prior to the meeting and was distributed to the
Planning Commission. Staff recommended revocation of Conditional Use
Permit 07-03. (Staff note: The Planning Commission received and
reviewed Declarations from David Harvey Brown III and Alan Livreri prior to
the start of the meeting.)
Chairperson Tanner opened the public hearing and asked the applicant to
address the Commission.
MR. CHADWICK BRADBURY, 41-945 Boardwalk, Suite A, in Palm
Desert, stated that he is an attorney in Palm Desert and was
recently retained by Ms. Suyong to speak for her today since she
was unable to speak for herself. He stated that she does not speak
English; she's a Korean national. She's a lawfully registered alien in
the United States. It had been very difficult for him to communicate
with her; he has had to go through interpreters, her daughter in Los
Angeles, to understand what has happened.
Mr. Bradbury stated that she didn't realize the seriousness of these
charges that were pending against her, plain and simple. If they
looked at the charges, they're largely administrative in nature. There
had been no question of any moral or ethical violations. They were
primarily administrative in nature; business practices. He felt that a
revocation was an extreme remedy. She did not understand what
she was facing and it is her only source of income. He had been
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brought in to help her get in compliance with the regulations that the
City has, and he understood that they're important regulations. The
City is well within its rights to enforce the laws that it has. And if that
is the purpose, to make sure that the businesses are acting in
compliance, then the message had been received loud and clear.
So what he was asking for was, rather than a revocation, a
probationary period of six months. If she is unable to comply with
regulations with his involvement, then the City would be well within
its rights, and probably justified, to go ahead and revoke the CUP.
But he was asking for them to just give her one more chance. She
doesn't have any other means of income; she does not speak the
language. She understands that she needs to comply and he
thought in this current economic climate, they have enough people
who are out of work and unable to take care of themselves
financially that they didn't need another one. This is her only means
of income. She is a quality professional. Her therapeutic skills are
unmatched and they had Mr. Brown present to testify firsthand about
the healing ability of this woman. He didn't think that was
unreasonable to give her a probationary period rather than a
revocation.
Mr. Bradbury stated that they were going to speak before the City
Council in two days on the revocation of her business license for the
same issue. If they looked at the citations, she has been making
progress from the original citations. The violations had gone down.
He stated that he would be able to help her and get her into
compliance so that they have another quality therapist in the valley
to do the good work that she's been doing. No one has been hurt
here.
Chairperson Tanner thanked him and asked if there were any questions for
the applicant.
Commissioner DeLuna noted that there were six citations over a nine-
month period of time and Ms. Suyong has just now sought legal counsel
after a nine-month period of time with six citations. Number 7, which
specifies that they shall have in their possession a valid permit; that was
checked no every single time, and there have been a couple of criminal
citations. To her, she could not have missed the seriousness of the process
that was occurring. She understood that language might be a barrier, but if
she comes to do business here, then she probably needs to be able to
understand what our rules and laws are; they are not unreasonable and
they certainly welcome any business that complies with our laws. But she's
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had six different opportunities to bring her establishment up to code and
hasn't done it.
Mr. Bradbury stated that he understood. She should have hired him
sooner. He couldn't dispute that, but the point was that she wants to
comply and he knew he could help her. He knew he could get her
into compliance and make sure that she stays there. And if she
doesn't, it should be revoked. But she does not speak the language.
There were no other questions of the applicant. Chairperson Tanner asked
for any testimony from the audience in FAVOR of or in OPPOSITION to the
proposed revocation.
MR. DAVID BROWN, a resident of Indian Wells, informed the
Commission that he has been going to the Ty Spa for approximately
a year and he has developed a friendship, as much as a friendship
he could with a lady who doesn't speak the language. He said he
speaks English very well and she has no idea really what she's
doing here other than there's something going on. She says a few
minor words in English, the niceties of life, and he was sure when all
these citations were issued to her she thanked them very politely,
put them in a folder, and had no idea what they were about.
He said he's a 67 year-old man that at one time had a lot of health
issues. He has gone to massage therapists for over 20 years. And
during the past year he had found with her incredible strength she
has been able to rebuild the circulation in his legs so that he doesn't
have that any more. He's had neuropathy for over 20 years and
today he doesn't have neuropathy. She runs a very professional
operation. He didn't know how old she is, but she's about 50, and
she's a true massage therapist that's doing what a true massage
therapist should do. She basically has a medical facility and he's a
registered pharmacist and he understood what massage therapy's
about. It takes about 1,000 hours of training to learn to be it. This is
something they go buy a license or get 100 hours worth of
education. It's a very legitimate license that's helping the people in
this community and he, for one, living in Indian Wells, wanted that
kind of help and he could say for certain that with all the different
massage therapists he has gone to in his lifetime, she is the only
one that has been able to get the circulation going back in his legs.
He owns a business that does business all over the world and he
has to do business in Korea, he does business in China, Germany
and all over the Ivory Coast. One of the things when he was
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listening to Mr. Bradbury comments was when you do business in
China, the government assigns someone to you that speaks both
Chinese and English because they want Americans doing business
over there. He thought that was a very polite thing for people to do.
When they do business in Korea, they have the same system over
there. He knew that in America we expect people to be able to
speak our language. The fact is that they don't speak our language
and we can say they're supposed to do it, but most of the people
from Asia live in their communities, like Chinatown or Koreatown,
etc., but they're never going to speak English as well as he does,
they're never going to have the same comprehension in the English
language as well as all of the rest of them in this room, and he
certainly understood that she didn't understand what was going on
when she started getting these citations.
Mr. Brown said he was in her office about a month ago when she
showed him all of her legal papers. He went to law school and was a
IDEA attorney some 40 years ago. He understood the legal process.
He isn't licensed in the State of California. He told her that she
needed to get an attorney. She went and got an attorney. He and
Mr. Bradbury were certainly both going to help her to get her back
into compliance. It's a valuable asset to this community and he didn't
know this forum, they weren't a board of directors.
Chairperson Tanner stated that they are Planning Commissioners.
Mr. Brown reiterated that they are the Commissioners, but asked
what the forum was? The Commissioners are the forum? He said it
didn't matter. He thought that probation would be just an absolutely
excellent thing to have happen. He was certainly going to work with
Mr. Bradbury to help her stay in compliance with it. She's a valuable
asset to this community and he just thought it would be a really good
thing to give her another shot at it and some people really care what
happens to her. She has two kids and she's probably got $100,000
invested in her business and she didn't know anything about
speaking English when she got there. She doesn't know anything
about English now, but she's got at least two of her customers who
will help her.
Chairperson Tanner thanked him. He asked if there was any other
testimony in FAVOR of or in OPPOSITION. There wasn't and he closed
the public hearing and asked for Commission comments or action.
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Action:
It was moved by Commissioner DeLuna, seconded by Commissioner
Limont, approving the findings and recommendation as presented by staff
to revoke CUP 07-03. Chairperson Tanner asked for any comments.
Commissioner Campbell stated that she herself came to this country and
did not speak English. She thought Ms. Suyong needed to start learning
English and not be with her own peers because otherwise they never learn
English. If they are in business, they'd better know what business was all
about and make sure that someone was taking good care of her; otherwise
many difficult things could happen to her. Chairperson Tanner stated that
he's a true proponent of business and entrepreneurial businesses, not only
here but everywhere, and one of the issues they have to deal with is if they
don't understand and can't communicate, they find someone that can
understand and communicate. Again, with all of the repeated ordinance
violations, and he was sure that they were described as best they could
with the language barrier, he thought it was extremely important that the
owner of the business find out what it's all about. It was unfortunate that it
has come to this, but they needed to do what the ordinance said they
needed to do. There was no further discussion and he called for the vote.
Motion carried 4-0 (Commissioner Schmidt was absent).
It was moved by Commissioner DeLuna, seconded by Commissioner
Limont, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 2513, revoking
Conditional Use Permit 07-03. The motion carried 4-0 (Commissioner
Schmidt was absent).
C. Case No. CUP 09-276 Amendment #1 — BOB ROSE, Applicant
Request for approval of an amendment to existing Conditional
Use Permit 09-276 to allow Elite Salon to expand into a 1,231
square foot suite in an existing office/medical building complex
located in the Office Professional zone. The project is located
at 72-650 Fred Waring Drive, Suites 105 and 106.
Assistant Planner Kevin Swartz reviewed the staff report. He
recommended approval, subject to the conditions. He noted a change to
Condition No. 7. The applicant would like to provide manicure services. No
massage services would be permitted.
Commissioner DeLuna noted that the staff report mentioned an esthetician
and asked if that was in addition to a manicurist. Mr. Swartz was advised
by someone in the audience that was correct.
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Commissioner Limont asked when they have that many salons, if they
would have appropriate sinks to go with it. Her concern was if the building
was set up for that. She would assume yes, but it seemed like an awful lot
of plumbing going on in a small area. Mr. Swartz said they had to submit
for a tenant improvement for Suite 105 and had to meet all the
requirements, and they would also submit for a tenant improvement for
Suite 106; they would have to meet everything.
Chairperson Tanner opened the public hearing and asked the applicant to
address the Commission.
MR. BOB ROSE, 30 Florence Lane in Palm Desert, said he was
available for any questions.
Commissioner DeLuna wanted to clarify that there would be no massage
services.
Mr. Rose confirmed there would be no massage services. He
thought they made an error at the beginning on their application and
it was his mistake in leaving the manicure exception in there and
they would like that removed, but no massage service was fine with
them.
Chairperson Tanner asked if that would be in one of the salons, and only
one.
Mr. Rose thought it was only one.
Commissioner DeLuna asked if there would be only one esthetician salon
as well.
Mr. Rose explained that each of the salons are an individual
business, so they had one set up for an esthetician, and they have
one set up for nail technicians, but the rest were furnished and
equipped for hair stylists. They tried to create an environment for
more than one service within the space.
There were no other questions. Chairperson Tanner asked if there was any
testimony in FAVOR of or in OPPOSITION to the proposed conditional use
permit amendment. There was no response and he closed the public
hearing and asked for Commission comments or action.
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Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner
DeLuna, approving the findings and recommendation as presented by staff.
The motion carried 4-0 (Commissioner Schmidt was absent).
It was moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner
DeLuna, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 2514, approving
Case No. CUP 09-276 Amendment #1, subject to conditions as amended.
The motion carried 4-0 (Commissioner Schmidt was absent).
IX. MISCELLANEOUS
None.
X. COMMITTEE MEETING UPDATES
A. ART IN PUBLIC PLACES
None.
B. LANDSCAPE COMMITTEE
None.
C. PARKS & RECREATION
Chairperson Tanner reviewed the Parks & Recreation Commission
meeting discussion items.
D. PROJECT AREA 4 COMMITTEE
None.
XI. COMMENTS
1. Commissioner Limont thanked Code Officer Pedro Rodriguez and
the whole Code Compliance Department. She noted that this is a
tough time for businesses and signs get put up and Code does a
great job of keeping it under control during difficult times, and also
works really well with the business owners.
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2. Mr. Bagato informed Commission that the October 20 meeting is Now
canceled. There would be at least one in November, but he wasn't
sure which meeting date. Also, on the freeway signage, the City
Council approved a form of illumination for signs to be reverse
channel lettering facing the freeway. He explained that's kind of a
halo illumination that is seen a lot on El Paseo. He noted that the
lights have to be turned off by 11:00 p.m.
XII. ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Commissioner DeLuna, seconded by Commissioner
Limont, adjourning the meeting by minute motion. The motion carried 4-0
(Commissioner Schmidt was absent). The meeting was adjourned at 6:43
p.m.
LAURI AYLAIAN, Secretary
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