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TUESDAY - DECEMBER 21, 2010
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I. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Limont called the meeting to order at 5:59 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Connor Limont, Chair
Mari Schmidt, Vice Chair
Sonia Campbell
Nancy De Luna
Van Tanner
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Jill Tremblay, Assistant City Attorney
Tony Bagato, Principal Planner
Missy Grisa, Assistant Planner
Tony Becker, Administrative Secretary
Steve Brooker, Fire Marshal
III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Limont led the pledge of allegiance.
IV. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION
Mr. Bagato stated that the only item that was discussed was the Neon Sign
ordinance. The City Council decided to form a sub-committee to gather more
public input so that the Council may make a decision at a future date regarding
more permanent standards that would be implemented regarding neon signs
and advertisement. When modifications are prepared, this will be brought back
to the Planning Commission.
V. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
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VI. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
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Request for approval of the November 16, 2010, meeting minutes.
Action:
Commissioner Schmidt moved and Commissioner Campbell seconded the
approval of the November 16, 2010 meeting minutes. Motion carried
unanimously 5-0.
Vil. CONSENT CALENDAR
NONE
Vill. PUBLIC HEARINGS
Chair Limont stated that anyone who challenges any hearing matter in
court may be limited to raising only those issues he, she or someone else
raised at the public hearing described herein, or in written correspondence
delivered to the Planning Commission at, or prior to, the public hearing.
A. Case No. PP 10-302, California Department of Motor Vehicles
(DMV), Applicant.
Approval of a precise plan of design for a new Department of Motor
Vehicles (DMV) facility, located at 36-400 Technology Drive, north
of Gerald Ford Drive. The proposed building totals 11,280 square
feet on a vacant 2.22 acre site.
Principal Planner Tony Bagato requested that this matter be
continued to a date undetermined since staff is waiting for the
potential changes to the site plan to come forward. These changes
will reflect drainage issues. Staff was unable to gather those
changes in time for this meeting and they are awaiting the final
documentation on those site plan changes.
Chair Limont asked if this date was in the near future or not. Mr.
Bagato indicated that the date was uncertain, but that staff would
re-notice the hearing to the public within the appropriate amount of
time.
Action:
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Commissioner Campbell moved and Commissioner De Luna seconded
sum the motion to continue case PP 10-302 to a date uncertain. The motion
carried for approval 5-0.
B. Case No. Duncan Bridge Center, Applicant.
Approval of an amendment to a conditional use permit to operate and
expand a bridge card-playing facility located at 74-836 Technology
Drive, Suites 103-105, APN: 694-190-066.
Assistant Planner, Missy Grisa orally presented her staff report and
Power Point presentation to the Planning Commission, showing them
the parking, the site plan and the aerial photos of the business. Staff
recommended approval of the permit extending the hours and
additional parking and building space for added players. Ms. Grisa
mentioned that there were several emails added to the packets
indicating public opinion either in favor of or opposition to the bridge
club. She also wanted to point out that none of these emails was from
any of the nearby businesses. There were a few complaints to the
Code Department regarding parking and overflow parking occurring
in the wrong areas, but that was rectified immediately as the business
has shown an active willingness to cooperate. Staff is confident that
the bridge facility can operate under these new guidelines without
issue. The business has already obtained new letters of approval and
permission from the adjacent businesses (Cook St. Liquor, Starbucks
and Hampton Inn). With that, staff entertained Commission questions.
Chair Limont asked about the parking next to the Hampton Inn and if
it were adjacent with direct access to the Bridge Center or would one
have to cross the street to access this parking. Ms. Grisa stated that
there is indeed direct access. Chair Limont asked if there were any
questions of staff by other Commissioners.
Commissioner De Luna asked about the hours of operation of the
adjacent businesses: Starbucks and Cook Liquor, and if so, what
were they? Ms. Grisa stated that Starbucks is open weekly from 5
a.m. to 9 p.m. and Cook Liquor is open every day from 8 a.m. until 11
p.m. There is an adjacent gas station on the corner of Gerald Ford
and Cook that is open 24 hours and Rock's Firehouse and Lucky's,
which are restaurant/ bars who are open until 1 a.m.
Commissioner Schmidt wanted to clarify the time (hours of operation)
that the staff report indicates. She notes that it says that they are
asking for additional time to play beyond 10 p.m. and clean up until
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10:30 p.m. Or is it that play stops at 9:30 p.m. and they clean up at
10? Ms. Grisa stated that play stops at 10. They originally asked for 9
p.m. but learned that bridge games may go over and they still need
time t clean up. That is why they preferred the 10 p.m. closing time,
so they would still have time to clean up and not rush anyone out the
door.
Chair Limont asked for clarification stating that the doors would close
at 10? Ms. Grisa stated that was correct, they just didn't want to rush
people out of the last game. Chair Limont asked about recourse for
parking violations should they occur and what that would be? Ms.
Grisa stated that if parking were continually violated, then staff could
revoke the permit; however, the applicant has been attentive to this
issue and has alerted the patrons about where they may park.
Chair Limont declared the public hearing open.
James Alperin of 2700 Golf Club Dr., Palm Springs, CA, one of the
directors of the Duncan Bridge Center spoke about the times of the
night games. He indicated that the game starts about 6:30 p.m. and
plays until 10 p.m. Sometimes it runs over that time but never past
10:30. He asked the Commission's indulgence to allow for games to
cease at 10:30 to give the players that extra time finish their game.
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Commissioner Campbell stated that 10:30 would be fine since, as
she understands it, they need to clean up. Mr. Alperin stated that they
just hired a cleaning service that usually comes early in the morning
or late at night after the doors close.
Commissioner De Luna asked if there is a reason that the game must
start at 6:30. Mr. Alperin stated that most of the players, who play in
the afternoon, finish the afternoon game around 4:30 p.m. and leave
to get something to eat. Plus any other players that work or can't
make the afternoon game can, in fact make the 6:30 p.m. game since
it is right after work and dinner.
Ms. Beverly Hartin of 29 Toscana Way, Rancho Mirage, CA, stated
there are only two evening games and this allows those who work to
make these evening games. She believed that requesting this extra
hour was more for the cleaning crews' benefit to give them time to
clean up after the game.
Chair Limont asked for clarification as to when the cleaning crew
actually comes. Ms. Hartin stated that they usually clean in the
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morning before the doors open. But if, for some reason the crew
couldn't be there in the morning to clean (possibly due to family or
other emergencies) then the evening time would still be available to
them to clean from that day's activities. She stated that the players
are usually out of the facility by 10 p.m.
Hearing no other testimony, Chair Limont declared the public hearing
closed and asked for Commission Comments.
Commissioner Schmidt commented that she understands that the
intent of this permit is that the card games stop at 10 p.m. and allow
for cleaning thereafter. Chair Limont followed up by asking staff if a
f closing time needed to be stated in the conditions of approval.
Mr. Bagato stated that the City does not regulate closing times. The
City may restrict the use, and indicate, for example that the card
games stop at a certain time, but the City does not restrict closing
times as a general policy.
Commissioner Tanner moved to approve and Commissioner
Campbell seconded. Commissioner De Luna offered more
discussion.
Commissioner De Luna had concerns with closing time. She
commended the club on doing their due diligence and cooperating
with the City and their neighbors. With that said however, she was
worried about the precedence set forth by allowing this business to
stay open late and that other businesses might want to do the same.
She would prefer to see this club close their game at 9 p.m. and
clean by 9:30 p.m. which, she feels would be more appropriate.
Hearing no other comments, Chair Limont asked one final question of
staff about the occupancy rate and if staff or the Fire Marshal had any
issues at all regarding this (for emergency evacuation purposes). Ms.
Grisa stated that in order for the facility to be in FULL compliance,
they would have to fulfill Building and Safety Conditions for adequate
access to public restrooms, but both staff and the Fire Marshal had
no issues with occupancy. Chair Limont wanted to know if the
current CUP was still enforced: including both for the lower
occupancy and parking, until such a time as the Bridge Club was able
to fulfill their requirements. Ms. Grisa stated that was true.
Commissioner De Luna asked about procedure, and wanted to know
if she needed to vote against the whole CUP and conditions if she
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had an issue with only ONE of the conditions. Mr. Bagato stated and
Chair Limont reaffirmed that that was true, that Commissioner De
Luna must vote in favor of or in opposition to it in its entirety.
Action:
Commissioner Tanner moved and Commissioner Campbell seconded
approving the findings and recommendation as presented by staff. Motion
carried 4-1 for approval. (Commissioner De Luna voting NO)
Commissioner Tanner moved and Commissioner Campbell seconded
adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 2539, recommending
approval of CUP 10-274 with Conditions. Motion carried 4-1
(Commissioner De Luna voting NO).
IX. MISCELLANEOUS
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X. COMMITTEE MEETING UPDATES
A. ART IN PUBLIC PLACES
Commissioner Campbell stated that there was no meeting.
B. LANDSCAPE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE
Commissioner Limont stated that there was no meeting.
C. PARKS & RECREATION
Commissioner Tanner commented that the pool concrete has been
poured. They expect the pool to be opened by June, 2011. There
has been talk about upgrading the skate park later as well.
D. PROJECT AREA 4 COMMITTEE
Commissioner Schmidt stated that there was no meeting.
Commissioner De Luna asked if the golf course is being
maintained. Commissioner Schmidt stated that the Golf Course
was still in default. Mr. Bagato stated that the bank and the
abatement crew are going out there to maintain the property and
keeping it clean. Due to the recent rains, the crews have had to
stop. The City isn't paying for any abatement work done. They are
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being reimbursed for their work from the bank. Commissioner De
Luna was under the impression that it had been over seeded and
being used for play. Staff reported that that was not the case, but
that the golf course was being maintained to acceptable levels, but
not at such levels that it would be over seeded or played on. Mr.
Bagato stated that conditions and restrictions were placed on the
property and any new developer or owner would have to go through
the process to get those restrictions removed. Commissioner De
Luna was simply looking for clarification on various versions of
information that she had heard about this issue.
XI. COMMENTS
Ms. Grisa stated that she would have some items for the agenda,
potentially for January 4th and January 18th. The Planning Commission
would be seeing some items for both agendas.
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XII. ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner De Luna moved and Commissioner Schmidt seconded the
adjournment of the meeting by minute motion. The motion carried 5-0. The
meeting was adjourned at 6:33 p.m.
TONY AGATO, Secretary
TTEST:
M. CONNOR LIMONT, Chair
Palm Desert Planning Commission
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