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PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY - FEBRUARY 15, 2011
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1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Limont called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Connor Limont, Chair
Nancy De Luna
Van Tanner
Roger Dash
Sonia Campbell
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Bob Hargreaves, City Attorney
Jill Tremblay, Assistant City Attorney
Lauri Aylaian, Director of Community Development
Tony Bagato, Principal Planner
Tony Becker, Administrative Secretary
III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Limont led the pledge of allegiance.
IV. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION
Ms. Aylaian informed the Planning Commission that at the last City Council
meeting, there were no actions taken that related to Land Use. The City
Council appointed Dr. Roger Dash to the Planning Commission.
V. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
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VI. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Request for approval of the February 1, 2011 meeting minutes.
Action:
Commissioner De Luna moved and Commissioner Tanner seconded the
approval of the February 1, 2011 meeting minutes. Motion carried 3-0-0-2.
(Commissioners Campbell and Dash ABSTAINING).
VII. CONSENT CALENDAR
NONE
Vill. PUBLIC HEARINGS
Chair Limont stated that anyone who challenges any hearing matter in
court may be limited to raising only those issues he, she or someone else
raised at the public hearing described herein, or in written correspondence
delivered to the Planning Commission at, or prior to, the public hearing.
A. Case No. ZOA 10-68, City of Palm Desert, Applicant.
Recommendation to City Council for approval of a Zoning Ordinance
Amendment requiring a Conditional Use Permit for Short -Term Vacation
Rentals in Non -Gated Residential Neighborhoods or Communities, and a
modification to the Conditional Use Permit chapter establishing a minor
Conditional Use Permit (CUP) review.
Principal Planner Tony Bagato orally presented his staff report and PowerPoint
presentation to the Planning Commission. This matter was brought before the
Planning Commission in April, 2010. At the direction of the City Council, staff
was instructed to form a sub -committee and strike a compromise that would
better regulate short-term rentals.
Mr. Bagato reported that from 1973-2000, the City of Palm Desert Municipal
Code was silent regarding short-term rentals, neither prohibiting nor allowing
them. Since 2000, a CUP was required to operate a short-term rental, and
compliance was monitored on a complaint -driven basis. In January 2010, the
Planning Commission directed staff to conduct a study of gated vs. non -gated
communities to show where the short-term rentals were in fact operating. Staff
discovered that no zone is solely gated or non -gated, as both can be found in
nearly every zone. The sub -committee consisted of staff members, planning
commissioners, city council members and citizens who were both for and
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against short-term rentals. The sub -committee found that the cities of Mammoth
um and Palm Springs have actively dealt with this issue and those cities regulate
short-term rentals under strict control using a business license. However, it
would not give as much control as using a CUP along with a business license.
After talking with the Police Department, Code compliance and other
departments; the use of a CUP with a Business License would give the most
control over land use issues and noise.
Conditional Use Permits are already in use across all zones for such things as
churches, day -schools and other such uses. They provide land use control with
regulations and can be revoked for violations leading to fines or jail time for
repeat violators. Staff proposed the following conditions to the short-term
rentals: having a minimum of 3 days/2 nights' stay; maximum of 2 people per
bedroom for overnight guests and additional guests of up to 2 more people for
day time; a home will still need to look like a home and not like a hotel with
signage and all on -site parking must be provided for use. A contact person with
an available 24 hour phone number must be provided to the City and the
neighbors in case of noise complaints.
A minor CUP would have a one-time deposit of $1500 for this permit, rather
than the $2915 for a normal CUP. The reasoning for this is that these cases
take less staff work to process and a homeowner would be more likely to afford
the smaller fee, whereas the full CUP fee might discourage a homeowner from
registering with the City and getting a legal permit.
The amount of TOT paid to the city last year was nearly $234,000. Of the
number of short-term rentals, 1,212 were in gated communities and nearly 151
were located in non -gated communities. These numbers are approximate
based on business license and internet research. Certain assumptions were
made about where listings were located based on the verbiage in the
advertisement. Over the past ten years, there have been only seven problems
with short-term rentals that resulted in violations. Mr. Bagato entertained
questions from the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Tanner didn't have any questions. He stated that he was part of
the sub -committee that reviewed the conditions.
Commissioner De Luna began by commending staff on their outstanding work
on this difficult task. Her question was about the CUP fee and would that $1,500
fee be an annual fee or a one-time fee? Mr. Bagato indicated that it is a one-
time fee. She then asked if the CUP would run with the land and if someone
sold their home, would that CUP stay with the house? Mr. Bagato stated that
yes, a CUP runs with the property and in the case of someone selling their
house, the City could require the seller to notify the City of a change in
ownership. Commissioner De Luna commented about letters of opposition that
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the Commissioners received stating that some of the reasons that were listed in
these letters didn't add up to her and while she considered them carefully, she
didn't feel it was the City's responsibility to certify that citizens with second
homes be successful at renting their properties out. Commissioner De Luna isn't
convinced that the $234,000 in TOT would completely be lost by approval or
denial of this ordinance. She stated that she is concerned with preserving the
neighborhoods for those citizens who live here full time.
Mr. Bagato stated that the sub -committee and City staff have been tasked with
finding a compromise not only for those who live here full time and want the
tranquility but also for those who live here and want to rent out their house. The
conditions set forth are the conglomeration of ideas and suggestions from those
individuals who worked on this project to strictly regulate these homes, but still
allow them to make money and have their business. These suggestions take
into account that 99% of the rentals are compliant and only 1 % were
problematic.
Commissioner De Luna ended by asking who would one call with a complaint.
Mr. Bagato said that a complainant could call the City, or the 24 hour phone
number that will be provided to the City -per condition, or City Code compliance
and a response to that complaint will follow. With the new sets of proposed
conditions, the City would have more avenues of enforcement including, but not
limited to: fines, revocation of CUPs, and even jail time if there are repeat
violations.
Commissioner Tanner wanted to point out that there have been a couple of
homes that HAVE had their CUP's revoked for repeated violations and are no
longer in operation, illustrating that the process, albeit long, does work.
Commissioner Dash began by thanking staff for their assistance as this was his
first meeting. He asked about staff's level of confidence in the accuracy of the
numbers presented here tonight. He clarified by indicating that he meant the
numbers of gated vs. non -gated short-term rentals specifically. Mr. Bagato
stated that there was some small margin for error, especially when he did his
internet search to see where some of the rentals were located. If, on the website
a rental was listed in a country club, he assumed that it was a gated community
due to the nature of country clubs, but the website might never actually have
said "gated". He cross-referenced the locations with business
licenses/addresses listed with the City.
Commissioner Dash wanted to clarify about enforcement and the level of priority
to enforce and didn't feel that it was a top priority since there were very few
complaints. Mr. Bagato stated that enforcement in times past was complaint
driven. The City of Palm Springs hired new staff to regulate and enforce their
rentals. The City of Palm Desert has officially determined that there is not
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enough time nor staff to devote to full-time enforcement such as Palm Springs
has.
Commissioner Campbell thanked staff and the sub -committee for their efforts
and had no questions.
Commissioner Limont wanted to get some clarification on a few matters: she
asked if we currently had an ordinance on short-term rentals. Mr. Bagato stated
that, yes, but it currently only covers the R-1 zone. She then asked about the
151 short-term rentals, not in gated communities and how many had CUP's?
Mr. Bagato stated that only five had CUP's. Commissioner Limont asked why
the other 146 rentals haven't been approached to come into compliance with
the City. Mr. Bagato stated that enforcement has been `complaint driven', so if
no complaints were lodged, then the City wouldn't necessarily have contacted
these owners. There are many short-term rentals that are operating with
business licenses but do not have a CUP and those would be grandfathered in
this new ordinance as compliant. Commissioner Limont asked for a rough
estimate of how many of the 151 short-term rentals do not have either a CUP or
a Business license. Mr. Bagato hazarded a guess of 80.
Commissioner Limont continued by asking about the number of people allowed
in a house. She wanted to know what people would do for situations like
Thanksgiving, where she herself had nearly 20 people in her house, and under
this new ordinance, she would have been in violation. She wanted to know how
the City enforces this. Mr. Bagato stated that it will still be 'complaint based' and
citizens can still call the police and code compliance. The land use control [that
the CUP offers] is still the better option since it now specifically indicates what
rentals can and cannot do.
Commissioner Limont asked if the police are called, could that response be
`back -charged' to the homeowner. Mr. Bagato said that it could. And that is part
of the new ordinance to noise responses that was recently changed.
Commissioner Limont questioned why staff went against Planning Commission
directives in the past on this issue and brought the matter before the City
Council, despite a 4-1 vote in opposition to an ordinance similar to this.
Ms. Aylaian addressed the issue regarding staff recommendations saying that
staff reviews the technical data on each application based on the codified
zoning ordinance. She noted that there will be times when the City Council or
Planning Commission might disagree with staff, but staff would maintain their
recommendation all the way to City Council to see the project 'through'. For staff
to change their recommendation mid -stream because of a 4-1 or 3-2 vote by the
Planning commission diminishes the value and independence of the
recommendation. It is not indeed to be disrespectful, nor is it staff's function to
recommend against something because of the opinion of an individual or
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commission.. Staff is tasked with making professional recommendations based
on the code. Ms Aylaian invited the members of the Planning Commission to
comment on any project that they feel IS NOT in accordance with City Policy or
and direct staff to look into the issue and report back, a request to change the
code so that it reflects current policy or that a Commissioner may comment to
the City Council suggesting a change in the code.
Chair Limont declared the public hearing open and asked for anyone who
wanted to speak IN FAVOR OF the recommendation.
Sarah Pallett of 42669 Brighton Street, Palm Desert, CA, spoke in favor of this
ordinance. She stated that her family sometimes lists their home for a short term
rental. She served on the sub -committee that crafted these guidelines. Ms.
Pallett stated that most people who rent her house want to stay in a luxurious
place with family and pets in a quiet location and many hotels don't necessarily
allow pets and some places aren't quiet. Offering her home affords her renters
all of these amenities. She stated that neighboring cities offer short-term rentals
and the rental group that sends clientele to Palm Desert will just as easily send
their patrons to neighboring cities if they feel Palm Desert is no longer
welcoming. With that, she stated that she supports the conditions and wants to
keep the groups coming to Palm Desert where they stay and spend their money
and time in the city.
Hal Reynolds, 73308 Tamarisk Street, Palm Desert spoke in favor of this
proposal. He said he didn't think there was a problem until he and his family got
back to their house and there was a football game going on in the street and
over 20 guys swimming in the pool next door. He would like to keep the
neighborhood quiet. Another house down the street was rented to a rock band
for a few days. His neighbors are from Canada and decided not to rent their
house any longer after hearing about the 20 guys swimming in their pool. Mr.
Reynolds wanted to impress upon the Commission that he is for this proposal
since it will enforce something that he feels should already be enforced.
Hearing no other testimony in favor of, Chair Limont asked for any testimony IN
OPPOSITION TO the recommendation.
Ms. Elena Baumann, of HK Lane Real Estate stated that she opposes a '$1000
tax' [sic] on real estate that would cause a chain reaction to rent prices and real
estate prices. She knows that many people come to the desert to spend money
and by adding this tax it will drive business away.
Hearing no other testimony, Chair Limont declared the public hearing closed
and asked for any Commissioner comments.
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Commissioner De Luna just wanted to say that it is most important to protect the
ftm neighborhoods for those that choose to live here in a family community, not in a
business community.
Commissioner Dash stated that although he was new, he felt that staff's attempt
to address the problem as it was and not just deny it outright was a good way to
manage the problem and with these recommendations for enforcement, he
could support this.
Commissioner Campbell is in favor of staff's recommendation as presented and
moved for approval.
Commissioner Limont commented that she still had a problem with the 3day / 2
night condition. She commended staff on their research but still didn't think she
could support this issue as it was presented.
Mr. Bagato stated that the '3/2 day' was a compromise because some felt that
one day was too short and one week was too long, since many visitors come
out from Orange County or LA to shop but they wouldn't be able to do that for
an entire week and take off extra time from work in most cases. Therefore, the
`3/2 day' was reached as the best possible compromise for this condition.
Commissioner Tanner wanted to commend the sub -committee for how hard
they worked on this. He stated that he originally voted against allowing short-
w term rentals, but after hearing from home owners, retail and other interested
parties he sees that this still can promote secure neighborhoods, but also keep
people coming to Palm Desert and staying and spending their time and money
here. He mentioned the fee is a one-time fee to cover added staff time for
enforcement and is a reasonable request considering that the actual price of a
CUP like this was higher at $2915. He has decided to vote in favor of this
recommendation.
Action:
Commissioner Campbell moved and Commissioner Tanner seconded the
motion to approve case ZOA 10-68. The motion carried for approval 3-2
(Commissioners Limont and De Luna voting NO).
Commissioner Campbell move
adopting Planning Commission
approval of ZOA 10-68. Motion
De Luna voting NO).
IX. MISCELLANEOUS
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and Commissioner Tanner seconded
Resolution No. 2545 recommending
carried 3-2 (Commissioners Limont and
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Action:
Appointment of ChairNice Chair and Discussion of Commission
Rotation.
The Commissioners discussed the various options and possibilities about
continuing a rotating system or an elected system to determine the next
Chair/Vice Chair. Discussion ensued among the Commissioners, and
culminated in a decision to elect the Chair and Vice Chair yearly as
necessary.
Commissioner Tanner moved and Commissioner Limont seconded
approving Commissioner Sonia Campbell as Chair and Commissioner
Nancy De Luna as Vice Chair and approving the decision to elect a new
Chair/Vice Chair in a year's time. Motion carried 5-0.
X. COMMITTEE MEETING UPDATES
A. ART IN PUBLIC PLACES
Commissioner Campbell stated that they were having their meeting
that Wednesday, February 16, 2011.
B. LANDSCAPE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE
Commissioner Limont did not speak about her committee as
discussion ensued about Planning Commission liaisons to various
committees.
C. PARKS & RECREATION
Commissioner Tanner did not speak about his committee.
D. PROJECT AREA 4 COMMITTEE
Commissioner Dash was appointed to this committee since the
former liaison was not re -appointed to the Commission.
XI. COMMENTS
Commissioner Tanner formally welcomed Roger Dash to the Planning
Commission, stating that they worked together on the Parks and
Recreation Commission.
Chair Limont asked about the latest update about "The Reserve". Ms.
Aylaian informed the Commissioners that the City of Indian Wells insisted
that the Reserve hire an independent consultant to prepare a new
environmental document on the proposal to change out their landscaping.
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The study and the public hearings would not be held for another six to
eight months. Nothing will be changed out on the Palm Desert side in the
interim, until these hearings have taken place. Some plants will be
removed from the areas that were over planted, but nothing new will be
added without approval via public hearings.
XII. ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner De Luna moved and Commissioner Campbell seconded
the adjournment of the meeting by minute motion. The motion carried 5-0.
The meeting was adjourned at 7:14 p.m.
LAURI AYLAIAN, Secretary
VEST:
M. CONNOR LIMONT, Chair
Palm Desert Planning Commission
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