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TUESDAY - JULY 19, 2011
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Campbell called the meeting to order at 6:01 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Sonia Campbell, Chair
Nancy De Luna, Vice Chair
Van Tanner
Roger Dash
Connor Limont
am Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Jill Tremblay, Assistant City Attorney
Kevin Swartz, Assistant Planner
Lauri Aylaian, Director of Community Development
Tony Bagato, Principal Planner
Missy Wightman, Assistant Planner
Tony Becker, Administrative Secretary
III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner De Luna led the pledge of allegiance.
IV. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION
Ms. Aylaian informed the Planning Commission that the City Council
Chamber will be under renovation until August 25, 2011, in order to install
camera equipment to televise City Council meetings. Until then, the Planning
Commission meetings will be held in the Administrative Conference Room
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She also mentioned that the City Council met on July 14, 2011, and
discussed two controversial issues: the relocation of Vons from Palms to
Pines center to the old Mervyn's Building, and the Rosewood Hotel. Vons
was approved on a 4-0 vote after being continued several times. The other
item was the proposal to construct a 5-star hotel on Highway 74. The
Rosewood Hotel received much public testimony on that item and the Council
decided to continue the issue until the August 25th meeting to give the mayor
time to come back from surgery and participate in the vote.
V. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
NONE
VI. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Request for approval of the June 21, 2011, meeting minutes.
Action:
Commissioner Limont moved and Commissioner Dash seconded the
approval of the June 21, 2011 meeting minutes. Motion carried 5-0.
VII. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Case No. PMW 11-17 Stephen and Georgia Schambera / Avondale ..r
Golf Club, Applicant.
Applicant requested adjustment of an existing lot line of `lot 18' into the
existing golf course to accommodate an existing building encroachment.
Public Works has approved this adjustment.
B. Case No. PMW 11-248, Melissa Wightman, Applicants.
A request by the applicant to merge the northern half of "lot 53' to all of 'lot
54' in order to reconcile and old lot separation that no longer exists. Public
Works has approved this adjustment. .
Action:
Commissioner Tanner moved and Commissioner De Luna seconded approving
consent calendar items. Motion carried 5-0.
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Vlll. PUBLIC HEARINGS
Chair Campbell announced that anyone who challenges any hearing matter
in court may be limited to raising only those issues he, she or someone else
raised at the public hearing described herein, or in written correspondence
delivered to the Planning Commission at, or prior to, the public hearing.
A. Case No. CUP 11-72, Gym, Nicholas Frasca, Applicant.
Consideration of a Conditional Use Permit to allow The Yard Authentic Strength
and Barbell, a private fitness training center at 74-794 42nd Ave. in the S.I. Zone,
(Service Industrial).
Kevin Swartz orally presented his presentation and on-screen photos to the
Commission. He began by discussing the building at this location. It is divided
into 12 units and of those 12, four are occupied. The applicant is requesting to
combine suites 5 and 6 and use it as one large space. [He showed the suites
and parking photos on screen]. Mr. Swartz mentioned that the applicant has
occupied both suites for the past year-and-a-half as an Olympic power lifting
training facility. Staff conducted a parking study and found that nearly 18 stalls
were available during the hours of operation. Mr. Swartz showed the floor plan
and indicated that the lower level would be used for the training area and the
mezzanine (upper) area is dedicated for office space.
Mr. Swartz reported that staff recommends approval and offered to answer any
questions.
Commissioner Limont asked if suites 5 & 6 were on the first or the second floor.
Mr. Swartz said that they are first floor suites, but the upper story is for office
use. She went on to ask if this CUP is for a maximum of 13 people: three
employees and ten clients. Mr. Swartz said that was correct.
Chair Campbell declared the public hearing open and asked the applicant to
step forward.
Anthony Nicholas Frasca spoke about his business and stated that during the
summer there might be a total of five people there at any one time. During the
winter, there might be six to eight people there. He is training people in Olympic
Style lifting and uses his own money. It never started as a business, just as a
place to train some friends. It grew over time and then he found out he needed
a business license. So, Mr. Frasca is going through the process.
Commissioner Tanner asked if Mr. Frasca trained Tony Pompinio [a local
athlete featured in the news recently for placing in nationals]. Mr. Frasca stated
that Mr. Pompinio is actually one of the owners of the business. Mr. Frasca
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stated that there is no `feeder program' from any of the area high schools, so it
is incumbent on word-of-mouth to bring new athletes in to train. Commissioner
Tanner asked if the business was listed as a not-for-profit. Mr. Frasca stated
that he is not. He stated that he is a trainer at the Vintage and is currently
working with Guthy-Renker and those are from where some of his students and
financial support is coming.
Commissioner Dash asked about the office and if it was accessible only from
the first floor. Mr. Frasca said that the mezzanine is for office space and,
although it's not used as an office right now, which is what it was designed for.
The rest of the first floor is used for the training area.
Chair Campbell closed the public hearing after seeing no one willing to give
testimony in favor of or opposition to the project. She asked for commissioner
comments.
Commissioner De Luna moved for approval and Commissioner Tanner
seconded the motion. Commissioner De Luna wanted to add that she
commends the applicant for being willing to spend his own time and money to
help young kids who are interested in this sport and certainly thinks this is a
good idea.
Action:
Commissioner Limont moved and Commissioner Tanner seconded approving CUP 11- w
72, subject to the attached conditions.
Commissioner Limont moved and Commissioner Tanner seconded adopting Planning
Commissioner Resolution No. 2555 approving CUP 11-72, subject to the attached
conditions. Motion carried 5-0.
B. Case No. CUP 11-173, Massage, J Russell Salon, Applicant.
Consideration of a Conditional Use Permit to allow Healing Hands Massage
Therapy to operate as a secondary use in a 130 square-foot room within J
Russell Salon located at 72-996 El Paseo.
Mr. Swartz gave details about the establishment and the request to have
massage within the premises. He mentioned the amendments in the Palm
Desert Municipal code that allow for a massage establishment to operate as
a secondary use in a larger salon or physical therapy area. The massage
area would be located within the 'utility' room. The business would have one
full-time masseur/masseuse with a maximum of seven clients per day and
would operate from 8:30 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. daily. Staff recommended
approval and offered to answer any questions.
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Commissioner Limont asked if the masseur would be an employee of J
""' Russell Salon or independent. Mr. Swartz said that he'd let the applicant
speak to that.
Commissioner De Luna wanted to clarify that this isn't being considered a
stand-alone use. Mr. Swartz stated that was correct, that it was a secondary
use to the salon.
Chair Campbell declared the public hearing open and asked the applicant to
step forward.
Ms. Meg Firestone, owner of J Russell Salon, introduced herself and Sally
Harland, the masseuse, whom she has asked to be the full-time masseuse
at the salon, to the commission.
Ms. Sally Harland, 72-996 El Paseo, spoke about her experience as a
massage therapist. She has been one in the desert for nearly 20 years
either as an employee in physicians' offices or on her own. She is a
registered nurse (RN). Since the new ordinance was passed in the city, both
she and Ms. Firestone came to the City to apply for permission to operate a
massage facility within the salon.
Commissioner De Luna asked Ms. Harland if she was a full —time employee
of the salon. Ms. Harland stated that she would be an independent
contractor.
Chair Campbell asked for any testimony in favor of or opposition to this
application. Seeing none, she declared the public hearing closed.
Action:
Commissioner Limont moved and Commissioner De Luna seconded approving CUP
11-173, subject to the attached conditions.
Commissioner Limont moved and Commissioner De Luna seconded adopting Planning
Commission Resolution No. 2556 approving CUP 11-173, subject to the attached
conditions. Motion carried 5-0.
C. Case No. CUP 11-244, Alan and Susan Parker, Short-term Rental,
Applicants.
Request by applicants for a Conditional Use Permit to operate a short-term
rental at 44-600 San Jose Avenue.
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Missy Wightman orally presented her staff report and presentation. She
showed the location and floor plan of the house on the computer screen.
The zoning for the area meets the requirements to operate a short-term
rental. The applicant is in compliance with all of the standards in place to
operate a short-term rental. This house is a 4-bedroom house which,
according to the ordinance, limits any overnight guests to two per bedroom
for a total of eight. All parking must be on site and at this location there is
room for two cars in the garage and two more in the driveway. The
applicant's lease contract does list the additional requirements and mentions
payment of TOT. Ms. Wightman showed site photos of the property. There
is one bedroom downstairs and three more upstairs.
Ms. Wightman stated that there were no public comments received either in
favor of or in opposition to this application since the legal notice was mailed
July 1, 2011. She verified with the Police Department and the City Code
Compliance division that there weren't any noise or other violations on file.
Staff recommends approval of this CUP and she offered to answer any
questions.
Commissioner Limont began her questions by asking what the stages of
enforcement for various violations are, are the owners called after the police,
or before? Ms. Wightman indicated that the police are called first. Then the
property owners are contacted. The City is keeping record of the new
requests for short-term rentals and their owner/property manager contact
information should something like this occur. If there are multiple violations, rail
then the CUP could be revoked along with fines levied. If there is just one
violation, then a warning would be issued. Commissioner Limont also asked
about who would bear the cost of the police or code enforcement answering
these calls. She stated that the `Augusta issue' ran up huge bills related to
staff time. Ms. Aylaian stated that there is now some recourse for the City to
recover some of these costs. When the noise ordinance was passed, a
companion ordinance was also included which allows the City to charge the
violator for repeated calls to a location. These charges include time charged
for police and code enforcement.
Commissioner Limont wanted to know if this information is being distributed
along with the CUP application packet. Ms. Aylaian stated that it has not
been part of the packet, but that it certainly could be included.
Mr. Bagato wanted to add that Pedro Rodriguez, Senior Code Compliance
Officer, and Lt. Andrew Shouse from the Police Department have been kept
apprised of any violations: new or repeat offenses that any citizen reports.
Having noise violations on record assists the police and the code officers in
levying heftier fines against repeat offenders. Mr. Bagato wanted to add that
stricter ordinances that would allow for heftier fines and quicker citations
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may be forthcoming for consideration. Under the current noise ordinance,
Mr. Bagato stated that if there are fewer than 10 people, then a `rowdy party'
"� citation can't be issued. The new proposal would drop that count down to
one person or more, regardless of the individual being a permanent resident
or a visitor.
Commissioner Tanner requested that Mr. Bagato state for the record, the
number of homes the sheriff department visited relating to short-term rentals
[referring to a meeting that both Mr. Bagato and Commissioner Tanner
recently attended]. Mr. Bagato stated that the Police Department has no
way of knowing if the noise violation calls they respond to are short-term
rentals or not; but that the overall total of noise violations responded to was
very low. The police lieutenant stated that the tools are already in place to
enforce these infractions; the education to the owners and the neighbors is
the main issue—getting the word out of what repercussions there are for
violations.
Commissioner Tanner asked about the $500 fee and if it was a deposit or a
one-time fee and if that fee would be used to pay for back code or police
responses to ordinance violations. Mr. Bagato stated that the fee was a one-
time, non-refundable, administrative fee. That fee would not be used toward
any code violations or fines, only for the staff time to process the application.
Commissioner De Luna asked about the size of the lot and also about
.. parking: if there are four guests allowed, where would they park? Ms.
Wightman said that she didn't know the lot size off-hand; her guess was
about 7000 square feet. As for the parking, two cars would park in the
garage and two more could park in the driveway. Commissioner De Luna
wanted to know about parking for additional guests, where would they park?
Ms. Wightman stated that they would have to park along the street. She
wasn't certain that the code intended to have on-site parking for daytime
guests, just for nighttime guests.
Chair Campbell declared the public hearing open and asked the applicant to
step forward. The applicant was not in attendance. Chair Campbell asked
for any testimony in favor of or opposition to the application to come forward.
Ms. Sabine Gaedt, 44-595 San Jose, came forward to speak in opposition to
this project. She stated that she liked the applicants, a nice couple from out
of town. Ms. Gaedt's 80-year-old parents live across the street from this
property. She mentioned that the applicants must have offered their house a
few times as a short-term rental on a trial basis and during those times,
there have been a few problems: trash bags sitting on the street until trash
day, some noise complaints that some of the neighbors have previously let
slide, and cars of guests and guests-of-guests parking all over the
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neighborhood and giving her elderly parents an uncomfortable feeling. Ms.
Gaedt said that she wasn't aware of the City Council ruling regarding
allowable guests, until she received a notice in the mail about today's
hearing. She felt that calling the police is a hassle: there was another
property nearby that seemed to have been rented to drug-dealers and the
police were constantly called and after many days and nights of complaints,
and thousands of dollars of repairs to the property, those tenants finally went
away. But the whole process was a huge hassle.
Seeing no one else willing to offer testimony, Chair Campbell closed the
public hearing and asked for commissioner comments.
Commissioner De Luna began with her comments and concerns about this
project. She stated that the last speaker mirrored many of her concerns just
now. Commissioner De Luna mentioned that the size of the property is an
issue because it's a larger property with four bedrooms that would
potentially house up to 12 people. That is a large number of people for a
neighborhood, especially during Coachella Fest or another `fest' like that.
She wants to preserve the integrity of the neighborhood for families that live
there with young children. She understands that guests are required to leave
at 8 p.m. but that doesn't always happen, especially when the party starts
going at noon and could get louder as more guests arrive during the day.
The neighbors can be accommodating sometimes by not calling the police
every time there is an infraction, but that doesn't help the overall problem at
hand. In this instance, she can't support the request for a CUP.
Commissioner Tanner commented that the Planning Commission's desire is
to preserve the neighborhood for those that live here full time. He noted that
there are a lot of residents that aren't here full time and would like to get
revenue for their second homes and he understands that side of the
problem also. He believed that the current ordinances have teeth and that if
the current methods of enforcement aren't working, then they should go
back before the City Council and be changed. If there is nothing in place (a
CUP) then the City would have no recourse against those violators, because
they aren't registered, they are 'underground'. But if the Planning
Commission approved CUP's for these applicants who have paid their
money and read the rules and understood the consequences, then the City
could register the applicants, prosecute those few violators and collect the
TOT. He felt that the City has created a well defined procedure to deal with
any problems that neighbors (like the parents of the speaker present tonight)
report. The City already requests that the owners post trash days, and noise
ordinances and where people can park and call the police or the City if there
is a violation to get it on record. If the public doesn't report it and if the owner
doesn't have a CUP, then there isn't much or anything the City can do about
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it after-the-fact. In sum, Commissioner Tanner would be in favor of this
application.
Commissioner Limont stated that she has a short-term rental in her
neighborhood that is a constant violator and has and is taking months to
control. They are operating without a CUP and that also complicates the
issue. She is infuriated when neighbors come to her asking her for help with
the late-night parties that are being held on school nights and there isn't
much that she can do. Her issue is that the owners of this house live in
Chicago and don't know what's happening on a weekly basis. She feels that
people should be allowed to do what they wish with their property, but not at
the expense of neighborhoods.
Commissioner De Luna wanted to respond to something that Commissioner
Tanner said and in this case the landlord seems to be an absentee landlord
and although there are codes in place and consequences for those
violations, she also pointed out that Commissioner Limont has to contend
with the short-term rental in her neighborhood and is STILL working through
those issues. In this particular case, she believes that the house is large
enough that the code will permit too many families and guests and create a
legal noise problem. She can't support this instance; she could in theory, but
not this reality in this instance.
Commissioner Dash stated that he did and does support short-term rentals.
He felt that this instance was fraught with problems: noise and garbage, but
more importantly, that the applicants weren't present for this meeting, He
stated that there is no local address for them [contact address] and that that
shows that they don't appreciate the gravity of short-term rentals out here
and the issues surrounding them. He, therefore, will not vote in favor. He
stated that if the applicant wants to come back with some answers, he might
change his mind, but at the present time, he would vote against it.
Chair Campbell stated that the applicant does have a property manager that
is available 24/7 with contact information. She agrees with Commissioner
Tanner that the Planning Commission did approve the CUP process and
here is an applicant going through the process, so the Commission should
grant it and keep them on the record rather than sending them and others
like them 'underground'. With that, she moved for approval of staff's
recommendation. Commissioner Tanner seconded the motion with more
discussion. He wanted to point out that any appeal from any applicant
doesn't come back to the Planning Commission but would go directly to the
City Council. He wanted to mention that if there is a problem with this house,
one calls the management company that the owners have hired and let
them know about the trash or the noise and find a quick solution to any
problem, since that's what they're paid to do.
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Commissioner Dash asked Ms. Gaedt if she was aware of this property
being managed by a rental agency. Ms. Gaedt stated that she was not.
(other inaudible remarks were made)
Ms. Wightman advised that a continuance be issued to give the applicant
time to respond. Commissioner De Luna said that the applicant had plenty
of time already and that request would not be granted.
Action:
Commissioner Campbell moved and Commissioner Tanner seconded approving CUP
11-244, subject to the attached conditions. Motion failed 2-3 (Commissioners De Luna,
Dash and Limont voting NO).
Commissioner De Luna moved and Commissioner Limont seconded a motion to direct
staff to prepare a Resolution of Denial for CUP 11-244 to be brought to the next
Planning Commission meeting. Motion carried 3-2 (Commissioners Tanner and
Campbell voting NO).
IX. MISCELLANEOUS
NONE
X. COMMITTEE MEETING UPDATES
A. ART IN PUBLIC PLACES COMMISSION
Commissioner Campbell stated that the last meeting artists were
chosen for the registries. Some art pieces were sold to a music
school on the East Coast.
B. LANDSCAPE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE
Commissioner Limont mentioned that the meeting would be
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 (tomorrow).
C. PARKS & RECREATION
Commissioner Tanner said that they met, but Commissioner
Tanner was unable to attend. He said that the meeting was an
update on the Aquatic Center. He urged everyone to go see it. He
also stated that the parking area was prize-worthy, it was that well-
designed. Ms. Aylaian stated that there were about 600 people per
day in attendance. Commissioner Tanner mentioned that there
have been trespassers at night, but the sheriff and a private
security company are now watching the grounds.
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D. PROJECT AREA 4 COMMITTEE
Commissioner Dash indicated that the meeting discussed the Palm
Desert Country Club and now the bank that owns the property is
actively taking a roll in keeping the grass green and improving the
grounds. He also mentioned the latest information about AB 26X
and AB 27X bills in the legislature that impact Redevelopment. Ms.
Aylaian stated that the City of Palm Desert has a very well-
established Redevelopment Agency and could pay the one-time fee
(about $20 million) and an on-going fee of about $5 million per
year. One ordinance the City could consider and subsequently pass
is to pay those fees in order to keep the Redevelopment Agency
open. The other ordinance the City could pass would be for
dissolution of the Redevelopment Agency. Those will be considered
in late August when the City Council comes back from recess.
XI. COMMENTS
Mr. Bagato wanted to add a few informational items to the Comments
Section. He stated that a few new ordinances were coming forward: one is
to redo the entire Zoning Ordinance to make it more user-friendly and
more easily understood. Since the ordinance update will not involve policy
changes, there will not be any subcommittees or Zoning Ordinance
WAW Review Committee for this. Some of the codes will be updated to coincide
with today's technology and today's realities, so there might be a few
changes there as well.
Mr. Bagato also mentioned that there will be a few more short-term rental
applications coming before the Planning Commission.
Commissioner De Luna asked if the ordinances still held true regardless of
the property owner having a CUP or not [regarding short-term rentals]. Mr.
Bagato stated that that was correct; however, if a CUP was found to be in
place and then revoked, the fines levied would be more severe and could
be initiated faster than if the owner never had a CUP.
Commissioner Limont asked for clarification about that statement, she
asked if there were no CUP then fines wouldn't be able to be levied. Mr.
Bagato stated that initially, no, the first step would be to issue a warning
and have the property owner bring themselves into compliance. Then
fines of a lesser degree would be levied.
Ms. Aylaian wanted to reiterate that specific details individual case should
be taken into account on that case's merits. Therefore, in this particular
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case, staff was unaware of noise or trash issues until today because no
complaints were ever lodged. Therefore, staff recommended the standard
conditions. If, at the public hearing, the Commission learns that there are
issues on a property, then the Commission can tailor the conditions to be
more or less restrictive depending on the circumstances presented.
Commissioner Dash asked if the City levied fines right away. Mr. Bagato
stated that the City issues a citation first and gives some "grace' time to
come into compliance before levying fines. Mr. Bagato also stated that the
cities of Rancho Mirage and Indian Wells are enforcing their short-term
rental infractions with hefty fines, some upward of $5,000. The City of
Palm Desert historically chooses to educate the public first about the code
and how to come into compliance and then penalize offenders.
Commissioner Tanner asked how many owners had licenses for short-
term rentals outside gated communities. Mr. Bagato said that the numbers
indicated about 600 of 1,300 had licenses. Commissioner Tanner stated
that was his point, that there has to be a starting point to get those other
700 on record and this is the place to start.
XII. ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner De Luna motioned for adjournment of the meeting,
Commissioner Tanner seconded the motion and the meeting was Mai
adjourned at 7:18 p.m.
LAURI AYLAIAN, Secretary
ATTEST:
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CAMPBELL, Chair
Palm Desert Planning Commission
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