HomeMy WebLinkAbout2016-12-20 PC Regular Meeting Minutes CITY OF PALM DESERT
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TUESDAY, DECEMBER 20, 2016 — 6:00 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBER
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE, PALM DESERT, CA 92260
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chair John Greenwood called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Present:
Commissioner Ron Gregory
Commissioner Joseph Pradetto
Vice Chair Nancy Del-una
Chair John Greenwood
Staff Present:
Jill Tremblay, City Attorney
Ryan Stendell, Director of Community Development
Eric Ceja, Principal Planner
Kevin Swartz, Associate Planner
Monica O'Reilly, Administrative Secretary
III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Chair Greenwood led the Pledge of Allegiance.
IV. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION
Mr. Ryan Stendell, Director of Community Development, summarized pertinent
December 8, 2016, City Council actions. He also read a letter from Kathleen
Kelly resigning from the Planning Commission due to her recent election to the
Palm Desert City Council.
V. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
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VI. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. MINUTES of the Planning Commission meeting of October 19, 2016. ..
Rec: By Minute Motion, approve as presented.
An amendment to the minutes was proposed by Vice Chair DeLuna to have
the second sentence in paragraph four of page 15 rewritten to be clearer.
Mr. Stendell replied that staff would listen to the recording and have the
paragraph rewritten.
Upon a motion by Commissioner Pradetto, second by Chair Greenwood, and a
4-0 vote of the Planning Commission, the Consent Calendar was approved as
amended. (AYES: DeLuna, Greenwood, Gregory, and Pradetto; NOES: None).
VII. CONSENT ITEMS HELD OVER
None
VIII. NEW BUSINESS
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IX. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATION of a variance request to reduce the front
yard setback from twenty (20) feet to eight (8) feet to accommodate an
existing casita structure at 72-700 Somera Road. Case No. VAR 16-305
(John and Debra Trudeau, Palm Desert, California, Applicants).
Mr. Eric Ceja, Principal Planner, presented the staff report (staff report is
available at www.cityofpalmdesert.org). He explained that the City's variance
provisions provide the Planning Commission the authority to approve a variance
subject to four separate findings, which staff is unable to make those findings.
Therefore, staff recommended denial of the variance request. He offered to
answer any questions.
Vice Chair DeLuna asked if the current owner was aware that the casita was a
non-permitted building when he purchased the property.
Mr. Ceja replied that he believed so. He noted that staff sent a letter to the lender
to inform them that the casita was non-permitted.
Vice Chair DeLuna clarified that the casita structure does not contain any special
circumstances that would warrant a variance.
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Mr. Ceja replied that is correct.
Chair Greenwood pointed to the aerial image, and asked if the eight feet is
measured from the property line. Is the black line shown on the aerial image the
property line?
Mr. Ceja pointed to the property line. He stated that when staff took the
measurements, the casita is eight feet from the property line.
Commissioner Joseph Pradetto directed his question to legal counsel. He asked
if a variance request must meet all four findings or can it meet one, two, or three
of the findings. He also asked if the Planning Commission could adopt a variance
without meeting all of the four findings.
Ms. Jill Tremblay, City Attorney, said that according to the municipal code that is
found in Chapter 25, Section 72.070 Variances, the Planning Commission makes
findings of fact that establish that the circumstances prescribed in all four
paragraphs do apply.
Commissioner Pradetto stated that staff has determined that the variance
request does not meet any of the criteria. He is interested to hear the applicant's
interpretation of how the variance meets the criteria.
Chair Greenwood declared the public hearing open and invited public testimony
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or OPPOSING this matter.
MR. JOHN TRUDEAU, Palm Desert, California, noted that his wife is at home,
but his attorney was present and would also address the Planning Commission.
Mr. Trudeau stated that he has wanted to do the right thing for his property,
family, and Palm Desert during the entire process. When he purchased the
property in 2010, he was aware that the casita was non-permitted and it is in all
the paperwork. However, at that time, his family and the lenders were not aware
that the casita was built in a location that was not in compliance. He stated that
he was not directed by the city to bring the casita into compliance when the
property closed escrow or any time after the closing. He also stated that he was
not given a stipulation by his mortgage company to bring the casita into
compliance. Mr. Trudeau was told that if he planned to finish the structure, he
would have to go through the necessary steps because it was not permitted,
which was what he intended to do. In February 2015, he received a notice from
the Code Department that there was a complaint for a non-permitted structure.
He noted that he received the notice five years after he bought the property, and
said he has done everything the city has asked him to do. He met with the
previous City Manager, John Wohlmuth, and City staff to request that the city
permit the structure. He was advised to seek legal counsel. Subsequently, he
applied for a variance to modify the setbacks. He said his other options are to 1)
tear the structure down, move the slab, and rebuild the structure; or 2) adding
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more slab, physically lifting the structure, and then moving it over. He expressed
that he bought the property knowing that it had the casita and the casita made
the property very valuable to him. He voiced if the structure cannot stay in its +
current location, it would cost him $40,000 to $70,000 to move or to reconstruct
the casita. If he has to move it, he would need to request more to time to find a
financial solution. He offered to answer any questions.
Vice Chair DeLuna asked the applicant if he investigated what it would cost to
relocate the building. She noted it might be less expensive than demolishing the
structure.
MR. TRUDEAU responded that the estimate to move the structure and add new
footings would cost $20,000 to $30,000. The estimate does not include building
plans, a site survey, and permit fees. To keep the structure in its current location,
and bring the structure up to code would cost approximately $12,000. The
estimate to demolish and reconstruct the structure would cost over $50,000.
Vice Chair DeLuna commented that it would cost $12,000 to bring the structure
up to code. She said that the applicant added $12,000 to the cost of relocating
the structure. She asked if it all could be part of the same expense. She noted
that the applicant would have to spend $12,000 anyway, so whatever he would
spend to relocate the structure should not have to be duplicated by entirely
rebuilding the casita.
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MR. TRUDEAU replied that the $12,000 would include the cost for new
architectural drawings, a site survey, and the cost to bring electrical and
plumbing up to code. He would still have to spend $12,000 whether the casita is
kept in the same location or not.
Vice Chair DeLuna asked staff if the structure is given a variance, does that set a
precedent.
Mr. Ceja communicated that Mr. Trudeau has been very cooperative and
professional working with City staff. He stated that staff felt if the variance is
approved, it would set a precedent. There are two situations that could occur: 1)
it would make it easier for other people to build something without permits and
come back to the City for forgiveness instead of permission; and 2) staff
occasionally sees work that is not permitted, approving the variance would make
it more difficult to get properties into compliance.
Commissioner Ron Gregory voiced his concern with one of the elements that
seemed to mitigate the setback violation, which is the ficus hedge. He looked at
the property and commented that the neighborhood has a quality, a quality based
very much on the setbacks. He said the applicant's property does not have a
front yard; it is all a ficus hedge. The ficus hedge screens the applicant's casita
and the house; however, it is in a neighborhood where it is the only house with a +
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ficus hedge along the setback. He felt that the ficus hedge mitigates the casita,
but it is not a viable solution with respect to the neighborhood quality that he is
looking for.
MS. MONICA AMBOSS, applicant's legal counsel, Palm Desert, California, said
it was her understanding that a variance requirement did not have to meet all four
of the various criteria when the configuration of the lot dictates that the zoning
regulations can simply be relaxed a little to accommodate requests for a
variance, such as setbacks. She expressed that to comply with the zoning laws
would create an undue hardship for the applicant. She noted that in March 2015
everyone learned that the casita was not in compliance, and in 2005, the
previous owner had a front yard setback reduction approved from 20 feet to 15
feet. Ms. Amboss also noted that she is not sure if a survey has been done on
where else the casita could be relocated.
Commissioner Gregory interjected that the property appears to have a lot of
room to relocate the casita on the property, if it has to be moved.
Vice Chair DeLuna inquired if the lot is half of an acre.
MS. AMBOSS replied that is correct. However, the property has a substantial
pool and a large house. She stated that the casita with the ficus trees does not
change the character of the neighborhood because you can't see the casita.
Now Commissioner Gregory commented it is not the casita, but the hedge that
changes the neighborhood. He remarked that there are feelings the City has tried
to create in neighborhoods, with one of the feelings in this particular
neighborhood is an open setback for the home.
MS. AMBOSS referred to the City Council meeting minutes of March 2015. She
said it seemed Mr. Tony Bagato's (previous Principal Planner), position was the
applicant could apply for a variance; however, the City would probably require
the applicant to demolish the casita. She hoped she misread the minutes. She
asked the Planning Commission if they understood that staff does have to check
off all the boxes, and if it doesn't comply make the recommendation to not grant
the variance. However, the Planning Commission does have a little bit of leeway.
She requested if the variance is not approved as applied for, could it be modified
so that it would not create a financial hardship to the homeowner or have to
demolish the structure.
Vice Chair DeLuna asked Ms. Amboss what she would recommend.
MS. AMBOSS responded to give the homeowner additional time to alternatives
there are available, but said she did not have an exact answer. She stated that
the homeowner was told to apply for a variance.
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Vice Chair DeLuna questioned if the homeowner was aware that it might be an
uphill battle.
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MS. AMBOSS replied absolutely.
MR. TRUDEAU stated that he appreciated Commissioner Gregory's comments
about the ficus trees. He mentioned that he grew up near the woods so he was
attracted to this house because of the ficus trees. When he first bought the
house, the ficus trees were in bad condition and paid a lot of money to get them
in the condition they are today. His intention now is to start trimming them down.
On a different note, Mr. Trudeau said title insurance is now difficult to deal with,
and the escrow company that processed the sale of the house destroyed his
files. So going back to find any documents that can support any type of claim
would be difficult since it is no longer a resource to him.
Commissioner Pradetto asked the applicant what is his level of confidence that a
new grand solution would surface and solve the problem.
MR. TRUDEAU responded that his confidence is very high because he's an
optimist. He is ultimately going to find a solution that would allow him to move the
structure. He was told that the footings were done exceptionally solid. Therefore,
an additional seven to 10 feet of footing towards the pool seems to be a viable
option. However, it is time and tolerance he needs to raise the money to move
the structure. He stated that he wants to bring the structure into compliance, but
he has a 17-year old kid going to college soon to think about.
Vice Chair DeLuna clarified that the applicant is leaning in the direction of
relocating the existing structure.
MR. TRUDEAU replied that is what he would try to do if the City did not allow the
structure to be in its current location. He noted that in December 2005 when the
previous owner received approval of the five-foot setback, the structure was fully
built and 15 feet from the road. At that point, the previous owner was bankrupt.
With no further testimony offered, Chair Greenwood declared the public hearing closed.
Vice Chair DeLuna mentioned she drove by the property. She said you can see
just the crest of the roofline above the living hedge. If there is a circumstance that
the hedge becomes blighted or dies, is it correct there would be a structure sitting
functionally right on the street.
Commissioner Gregory replied that is correct.
Vice Chair DeLuna commented that there is no guarantee the ficus trees would
last in perpetuity; however, the structure would. She voiced her concern on
relying upon the permanence of a living fence (ficus trees) to screen the setback. wo
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She is encouraged that the applicant is moving in the direction of relocating the
structure. She stated that the City has policies that are in place for the greater
sum good of the greater number, and they have to keep that in perspective when they
have to deal with these individual cases.
Commissioner Gregory commented that he has been practicing landscape
architecture in the Coachella Valley for approximately 40 years. Throughout the
years he has come upon situations like Mr. Trudeau's and they have moved
buildings. He stated it could be done; it is just a matter of cost. If a schedule
could be worked out that is very restrictive and the applicant does not meet the
terms of the schedule, the building must go.
Vice Chair DeLuna asked Commissioner Gregory if he is saying to relocate the
building.
Commissioner Gregory replied that the building has to be relocated to set a
precedent. If not, other people would try to get away with having a structure in
the front yard setback.
Chair Greenwood asked the City Attorney to make clear that the issue in front of
the Planning Commission is to review a variance in terms of a setback. Are they
able to add a condition to set a time frame, or are they strictly looking at the
variance?
Ms. Tremblay responded that the Planning Commission needs to look strictly at
the variance.
Commissioner Pradetto asked if a variance could be approved with an expiration
date.
Mr. Stendell answered no. He said there was already an adjustment issued in
2005 for a five-foot reduction. Staff is unable to make the findings to approve the
variance. He stated that the Planning Commission needs to look in terms of the
variance only. If the direction of the Commission is to set a time frame, staff could
set the time frame administratively.
Vice Chair DeLuna moved to deny the variance; however, she would like to
condition the denial based on a time frame. She asked staff if the motion is
appropriate.
Mr. Stendell replied yes. He made clear that staff presented a Planning
Commission resolution, and asked how much time the Commission is willing to
entertain. He also made clear that it is not a condition of the resolution.
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Commissioner Pradetto inquired if the Commission could say they do not like
what was presented, and ask staff to come back with a new resolution specifying
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Mr. Stendell replied that it would be difficult because the Planning Commission
would be telling staff to make findings that staff believes could not be made. In
addition, staff cannot condition a variance.
Chair Greenwood asked if the variance is denied by the Planning Commission,
can it be appealed to the City Council.
Mr. Stendell replied absolutely.
Vice Chair DeLuna amended her motion to approve Planning Commission
Resolution No. 2685, denying Case No. VAR 16-305. Motion was seconded by Chair
Greenwood.
Prior to the vote, Commissioner Pradetto commented that the way he looks at it,
he does not see the hedges moving. There might be one that dies; however, the
applicant would replace it. He said that moving the building seven feet is not
going to change the world and does not affect anyone. He stated there is no
reasonable gain to be made by moving the building seven feet.
It was noted that the building needs to move eight feet to be in compliance not
seven feet.
Commissioner Pradetto continued that he does not see anyone benefitting, the
applicant loses financially, and the neighbors do not notice the difference. He felt
the ordinance is inflexible, as a Planning Commissioner, he is going to make that
determination on his own. He would be voting no.
Chair Greenwood appreciated Commissioner Pradetto's comments. In some
aspects he agreed. As a Planning Commissioner, they are specifically looking at
the fact and findings, and the language within the municipal code. He felt this
case would be appealed to the City Council and the Council could make that
distinction.
Chair Greenwood called for the vote and the motion carried by a 3-1 vote.
(AYES: DeLuna, Greenwood, and Gregory; NOES: Pradetto).
Vice Chair DeLuna stated it was not an easy decision to make.
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B. REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATION to approve Conditional Use Permit 16-
310 for a new 5,100-square-foot lounge/bar located at 73-750 El Paseo, and
.. approval of a Notice of Exemption in accordance with the California
Environmental Quality Act. Case No. CUP 16-310 (Barbeau, LLC., 73-750 El
Paseo, Suite 101, Palm Desert, California, Applicant).
Chair Greenwood stated that he is an employee of Prest Vuksic Architects, the
architect for the above-mentioned project; therefore, he recused himself.
Mr. Kevin Swartz, Associate Planner, outlined the salient points in the staff report
(staff report is available at www.cityofpalmdesert.org). Staff recommended
approval and offered to answer any questions.
Vice Chair DeLuna asked how many members does the applicant anticipate to
have when both phases are completed.
Mr. Swartz deferred the question to the applicant.
Vice Chair DeLuna declared the public hearing open and invited public testimony
FAVORING or OPPOSING this matter.
MR. HARRY KNAPP, Newbury Park, California, stated that there is a limited
amount of upscale venues on El Paseo. They looked into an upscale venue for a
year. The feedback they received was that something more high-end was
needed on El Paseo. He mentioned he has been a member of Soho House for
the past 20 years. They designed a model in the spirit of Soho House, and they
want the venue private based on the canvassing of the potential client in the
desert. He said they do not want a nightclub or a bar. They want to have a venue
that is elegant, classy, and bring old Hollywood to the desert. He noted that
Barbeau is named after his son who is an actor. He said they did not receive a
negative comment from anyone, and people are saying this venue is very much
needed. They chose this building because it could accommodate a rooftop
lounge. He said they could expand into the overall vision of the building and
develop the project in phases. In regard to the number of memberships, Mr.
Knapp said they have 100 founding members. The venue would require an
excess of 100 members, but it is something that they would monitor because the
current capacity is 100 people. He does not have a definitive number, but they
would scale the number of memberships as they can take care of the business.
Vice Chair DeLuna asked if there would be live music.
MR. KNAPP replied yes. They would have music on a nightly basis. He said they
are going to bring different eclectic music throughout the week.
Vice Chair DeLuna inquired if there would be music on the rooftop.
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MR. KNAPP replied no.
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MR. KNAPP responded that there is not a dance floor, but believed some
dancing could break out. With no more questions, the applicant thanked the
Commission.
With no further testimony offered, Vice Chair DeLuna declared the public hearing
closed.
Commissioner Pradetto commented that the project is a great concept and it
meshes in with the neighborhood. He said that he has heard concerns and a
demand for more activities during the nighttime hours. He voiced his support-for
the bar/lounge.
Commissioner Gregory agreed with Commissioner Pradetto's comments.
Commissioner Pradetto moved, by Minute Motion, to approve Case No. CUP 16-
310 and adopt Planning Commission No. 2686, subject to conditions. Motion was
seconded by Commission Gregory and carried by a 3-0 vote (AYES: DeLuna, Gregory,
and Pradetto; NOES: None; ABSENT: Greenwood).
Vice Chair DeLuna thanked the applicant for coming to Palm Desert to do
business.
X. MISCELLANEOUS
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XI. COMMITTEE MEETING UPDATES
A. ART IN PUBLIC PLACES
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B. PARKS & RECREATION
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XII. COMMENTS
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XIII. ADJOURNMENT
With the Planning Commission concurrence, Chair Greenwood adjourned the
meeting at 7:04 p.m.
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