HomeMy WebLinkAbout2018-02-06 PC Regular Meeting Minutes CITY OF PALM DESERT
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TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 6, 2018 — 6:00 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBER
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE, PALM DESERT, CA 92260
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Joseph Pradetto called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Present: Absent:
Commissioner Nancy DeLuna Commissioner Lindsay Holt
Commissioner John Greenwood
Vice Chairman Ron Gregory
Chairman Joseph Pradetto
Staff Present:
Jill Tremblay, Assistant City Attorney
Ryan Stendell, Director of Community Development
Eric Ceja, Principal Planner
Ron Moreno, Senior Engineer/City Surveyor
Monica O'Reilly, Administrative Secretary
III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Chairman Joseph Pradetto led the Pledge of Allegiance.
IV. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION
None
V. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
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VI. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. MINUTES of the Regular Planning Commission meeting of December 19,
2017.
Rec: Approved as presented.
Upon a motion by Commissioner DeLuna, second by Vice Chairman Gregory, and
a 4-0-1 vote of the Planning Commission, the Consent Calendar was approved as
presented (AYES: DeLuna, Greenwood, Gregory, and Pradetto; NOES: None; ABSENT:
Holt).
VII. CONSENT ITEMS HELD OVER
None
Vill. NEW BUSINESS
None
IX. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATION of an amendment to Condition of Approval
No. 10 for Tentative Tract Map 36351 and Precise Plan 14-170; and approve new
architectural elevations for one- and two-story homes for the subdivision located
at the southwest corner of Dinah Shore Drive and Dick Kelly Drive. Case Nos. PP
14-170 and/TTM 36351 Amendment No. 1 (Ponderosa Homes II, Inc.,
Pleasanton, California, Applicant).
Principal Planner Eric Ceja presented the staff report (staff report is available at
www.cityofpalmdesert.org). He pointed out that the applicant has agreed to no
more than 50 percent of all homes may be two stories in height and no corner lots
shall be two stories. At the end of his report, he offered to answer any questions.
Commissioner Nancy DeLuna said there would be a multi-family site that would
allow for three-story apartments. She asked what the height restriction is for the
three-story apartment project.
Mr. Ceja replied 40 feet.
Commissioner DeLuna asked how tall are the proposed two-story homes.
Mr. Ceja replied that the two-story homes will range from 24 to 28 feet.
Chairman Pradetto declared the public hearing open and invited public testimony
FAVORING or OPPOSING this matter.
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MR. RICK ROSENBAUM, Ponderosa Homes, LLC., Pleasanton, California,
thanked Mr. Ceja for the comprehensive staff report. Mr. Rosenbaum provided a
PowerPoint presentation of the proposed project. He mentioned they would make
sure that no more than 30 percent of each plan would be built into the overall
project. He also mentioned that a maximum of three two-story homes would be
plotted on consecutive lots. For the two-story elements that are 10 feet apart, they
would try to minimize those where they can so they can have a larger separation
where the driveway locations and the utilities allow for it. Lastly, they are ready to
start grading, roads, and site improvements in 60 to 90 days. Once the architecture
is approved and working drawings are complete, the homes could start being
constructed by the third or fourth quarter of 2018. He offered to answer any
questions.
Vice Chairman Ron Gregory mentioned he had a concern with the 15-foot setback
from the front curb face. He asked if people are expected to park their cars in the
driveway would their cars hang out into the street.
MR. ROSENBAUM clarified that the 15-foot setback is to the front of the house,
but a minimum of 20 feet to the front of the garage.
With respect to the concerns expressed by the existing homeowners, Vice
Chairman Gregory noted there is more of a grade change towards the west than
the east. He inquired if three of the two-story homes that are next to one another
could be shifted towards the west because the grade change would absorb some
of the height differentials.
MR. ROSENBAUM responded that they would like the flexibility to plot the homes
based on the market demands. He said they do not have a set site plan that shows
which plan will go on each lot. For that reason, they offered the maximum of 50
percent of two-story homes. He stated they are open to a recommendation by the
Commission.
Vice Chairman Gregory commented that he has not seen a proposed development
with such eclectic elevations; not that it is wrong but it is unusual. He asked for the
reason of having eclectic elevations.
MR. ROSENBAUM agreed that the elevations are unusual. He explained that they
embrace a contemporary look. They felt their homes could appeal to older and
younger buyers to create a community that has a mix of residents. Therefore, the
architecture reflects what they think the community would be.
Vice Chairman Gregory mentioned that one of the pop-ups appears to have a
hybrid of different architectural elements on one elevation and referred to Elevation
B as one example. He is concerned that it looks neither here or there and knows
that the project has gone through the Architectural Review Commission (ARC). He
said the element is also unusual.
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MR. ROSENBAUM commented that the contemporary architectural style with the
pop-up is more of a challenge; however, he felt they did a good job. He explained
there is a traditional element on the front with a shed sloping roof frontward. He
mentioned they had a sixth plan that had a pop-up on top, but they could not get
that one to work so they decided to scrap the plan based on the ARC feedback.
Vice Chairman Gregory asked what were the ARC comments regarding themes
carried through with the selection of materials. He said it is difficult to see the
articulation of the faces on the elevations.
MR. ROSENBAUM replied that the comments made by the ARC were
complimentary of the contemporary style except for the sixth plan that they
scrapped.
Mr. Ceja reaffirmed that the ARC was complimentary to all the units. He stated the
comments ARC made were in regard to the minutia of the details of the homes.
The ARC clarified exactly what they wanted to see on the building plans so they
could review those details.
Commissioner DeLuna hoped that the two-story homes are not clustered in one
area. She would like to see the two-story homes interspersed within the project
and asked the applicant if that is their plan.
MR. ROSENBAUM replied yes. He noted that the development standards state
that they cannot have more than three two-story homes in a row and no more than
50 percent on a street.
Chairman Pradetto asked if the 50 percent request came from the applicant or was
it negotiated between the applicant and the City.
MR. ROSENBAUM said that the comment came from the ARC since they only had
a site plan in front of them and only approving the architecture. The ARC agreed
to have the flexibility to adapt to the market was a good concept; therefore, he
came back with the development standards.
Chairman Pradetto clarified that the 50 percent would depend on the buyer mix
and what the buyer is asking for.
MR. ROSENBAUM replied that is correct.
Chairman Pradetto asked staff if the Millennium project is similar to the proposed
project.
Mr. Ceja responded the Genesis at Millennium also has some eclectic
contemporary architecture.
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Chairman Pradetto asked if Genesis has a 50 percent maximum for two-story
homes.
Mr. Ceja replied no. However, Genesis is a community that includes one- and two-
story units.
Chairman Pradetto asked the applicant if they are developing the multi-family lot.
MR. ROSENBAUM responded that they own the multi-family lot. However, they
are not traditionally multi-family developers. He said their thought is to first get the
single-family component under construction and potentially market the multi-family
site for sale or develop themselves.
Chairman Pradetto asked Mr. Rosenbaum if he foresees the site being a multi-
story product.
MR. ROSENBAUM replied most likely yes.
Commissioner DeLuna inquired if the multi-family project is conditioned to be up
to three stories and possibly a 40-foot structure.
MR. ROSENBAUM replied that is correct.
Commissioner John Greenwood pointed out, there is a scenario where there could
potentially be two, two-story homes with a 10-foot setback.
MR. ROSENBAUM replied that is correct. He explained the homes have the two-
story elements on the property line and the driveways are on the left. He stated
they would strive to potentially flip those homes where the driveway could be on
the other side. There would be some locations where the driveways would not be
flipped.
Commissioner Greenwood asked if they have those units in reverse floor plans.
MR. ROSENBAUM answered that they do.
MS. CAROLINE DAVIDIAN, Picasso Drive, Palm Desert, California, stated she is
a homeowner in The Gallery. When she bought her home, she was told the plans
for development behind her property were only approved for single-family homes
and that is the way she wants it to stay. She said she drove two hours to be present
for the public hearing. Therefore, she requested that the Planning Commission
continue this item so the homeowners in The Gallery could meet with the
developers to see firsthand what they are developing and the exact location. She
understood the proposed project would be modified to two-story homes as well as
three-story affordable housing. She stated she purchased her home for two
reasons, for privacy and the beautiful mountain views and voiced that she does
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not want either of them compromised, She does not want two- or three-story
buildings behind her property. If the developer wants to build two- or three-story
buildings, she said the developer should pick a different lot to do so. She also said
the residents from The Gallery will not have a problem if the developer were to
keep the original plans of single-story homes. Additionally, she said the proposed
affordable housing would bring down the value of her home. The Gallery was built
before the proposed new development and the residents have the right to voice
their opinions to oppose the modification.
MR. ROSENBAUM made clear that they are not proposing three-story homes.
Vice Chairman Gregory clarified when The Gallery was constructed, the Zoning
Code allowed for two-story homes and the developer elected to build single-story
homes.
Mr. Ceja replied that is correct.
Vice Chairman Gregory asked if the current Zoning Code allows for the
construction of two-story buildings on the proposed project site.
Mr. Ceja replied that is correct.
MR. MIKE REED, Picasso Drive, Palm Desert, California, stated when he
purchased his home in 2014, he was told that there would be single-story homes
built behind his home. He expressed the proposed two-story homes is an issue for
all the residents on the block. He mentioned the developer is going to build two-
story homes in an area where the electricity grid is already maxed out, which will
cause more blackouts. He asked if the developer plans on using The Gallery
entrance/exit located at the east end of the project. Lastly, he voiced his concern
about losing his mountain views.
With no further testimony offered, Chairman Pradetto declared the public hearing closed.
Vice Chairman Gregory said he would like to clarify the concern regarding access
at the southeast corner of the property. He asked if the entrance/exit access would
be open to residents of the proposed project or only for emergency services.
Chairman Pradetto reopened the public hearing to address Vice Chairman Gregory's
question.
Mr. Ceja replied that the access on the southeast corner is only for emergency
vehicle access.
With no further testimony offered, Chairman Pradetto declared the public hearing closed.
Vice Chairman Gregory stated he had one more question for the applicant.
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Chairman Pradetto re-opened the public hearing.
Vice Chairman Gregory commented that residents are concerned with the height
of the buildings. He noted that the applicant could be open to where the two-story
homes are constructed. He said the greatest impingement on views is where the
difference in grade is more minimal, which is towards the east side. He asked how
many lots might be less than six feet.
MR. ROSENBAUM responded that lots 58 and 59 are approximately six to seven
feet lower and as you go towards the east it is four feet. Therefore, there are about
six or seven lots that the grade might be six to seven feet less. He said he is willing
to look at those lots and limit the number of two-story homes in that area.
Vice Chairman Gregory stated he asked the question because the applicant has a
willingness to be sensitive to the concerns made by the residents. He made clear
that no one in the City has the right to a view even though people think they do.
However, a little sensitivity would go a long way without the applicant losing the
number of units.
MR. ROSENBAUM asked if Vice Chairman Gregory if he is proposing no two-story
homes or limiting the number of two-story homes to one or two in the area of lots
58 and 59.
Vice Chairman Gregory asked what the total number of homes in the proposed
project.
MR. ROSENBAUM replied 111 homes.
Vice Chairman Gregory asked how many homes are in the area where the lot
differential is minimal.
MR. ROSENBAUM replied six to seven lots. To make the Planning Commission
feel good and if it makes the neighborhood feel like they are being listened to, he
agreed to not constructing two-story homes on lots 58 through 64.
Commissioner Greenwood asked the applicant if they are open to a condition to
give the flexibility to build the units that they wish; however, have a reverse floor
plan so there is not a tight situation with a 10-foot setback in two, two-story units.
MR. ROSENBAUM responded that is what he tried to propose without locking
himself into a condition. He noted there are a few locations where the driveways
are abutting each other. He said he does not know how the Planning Commission
could recommend a condition that can be enforced. Mr. Rosenbaum stated they
will reverse the units where the driveway location will allow it.
With no further testimony offered, Chairman Pradetto declared the public hearing closed.
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Commissioner Greenwood asked the Commission how they felt about the tight
lots.
Vice Chairman Gregory asked Commissioner Greenwood if he is inclined to ask
the applicant to reduce the 50 percent maximum of the two-story units. If his
suggestion of not constructing two-story homes on lots 58 through 64, it would
increase the number of two-story units in the rest of the development.
Commissioner Greenwood inquired if they are looking at the lots adjacent to The
Gallery and the lots behind them (lots in the 70 series).
Vice Chairman Gregory responded he is looking at the lots closest to The Gallery.
He did not feel there would be a problem with the lots on the north side.
Commissioner Greenwood asked if they are looking at lots 65 through 60 to be
single-story units.
Vice Chairman Gregory replied lots 58 through 65.
After watching the Super Bowl, Commissioner DeLuna commented that the
differential between the proposed homes and the existing homes is at about the
30-yard line of a football field. She said not only is the Planning Commission
looking at a grade change, they are looking at quite a space in between the homes
that sit back from The Gallery. She stated the space mitigates to a certain degree
in regard to the concern with proximity.
Vice Chairman Gregory replied space does mitigate to a certain degree, but it is
open to a different interpretation. His point is that the Planning Commission has an
opportunity to use their subjectivity as Commissioners, as opposed to a rule would
be followed. However, the developer indicated he is willing to adapt to some of the
concerns and seems like an easy compromise.
Commissioner DeLuna felt the developer has been sensitive to the needs of the
neighborhood and the Planning Commission should recognize that the developer
is trying to work with the existing neighbors. She stated you can never please
everybody.
Chairman Pradetto asked if Vice Chairman Gregory would like to recommend a
condition for lots 58 through 65.
Vice Chairman Gregory replied yes. He recommended that a condition is imposed
for lots 58 through 65 to be one-story buildings. If the 50 percent maximum is
maintained for the number of two-story buildings, the buildings should be relocated
elsewhere as long they do not exceed three in a row.
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Chairman Pradetto clarified that the motion included staff's recommendations and
adding Vice-Chairman Gregory's recommendation, which would be Condition of
Approval No. 13. He asked the Planning Commission if there is a second to the
motion.
Commissioner DeLuna seconded the motion.
Vice-Chairman Gregory asked if they are incorporating Commissioner
Greenwood's comment regarding reversing floor plans.
Commissioner Greenwood asked for staff's thoughts on reverse floor plans for the
tight lots.
Mr. Stendell stated that Commissioner Greenwood could recommend two-story
homes to have a minimum setback of 20 feet. However, there may be some
situations where there is a conflict and staff could figure that out.
Commissioner Greenwood proposed that the two-story homes must have a
minimum 20-foot setback.
Chairman Pradetto noted Commissioner Greenwood's recommendation would be
Condition of Approval No. 14 and an amendment to the motion.
Vice Chairman Gregory concurred to amending the motion.
Commissioner DeLuna also concurred to amending the motion.
With no further discussion, Chairman Pradetto called for a vote.
Vice Chairman Gregory moved to waive further reading and adopt Planning
Commission Resolution No. 2716, approving Case Nos. PP 14-170/TTM 36351
Amendment No. 1, subject to conditions with the addition of the following two conditions:
1) no two-story units are allowed on lots 58-65 as identified on the tract map; and 2)
adjacent two-story homes shall have a minimum separation of 20 feet between the two-
story elements. Motion was seconded by Commissioner DeLuna and carried by a 4-0-1
vote with Commissioner Holt ABSENT (AYES: DeLuna, Greenwood, Gregory, and
Pradetto; NOES: None; ABSENT: Holt).
X. MISCELLANEOUS
None
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XI. COMMISSION MEETING UPDATES
A. ART IN PUBLIC PLACES
None
B. PARKS & RECREATION
Mr. Stendell reported that the Parks & Recreation Commission discussed the CV
Link project.
XII. COMMENTS
Commissioner DeLuna thanked the applicant for doing business in Palm Desert.
MR. JONATHAN CHAN, Palm Desert, California, informed the Commission of the
Residential Solar Preference ordinance that recently passed in the City of Palm
Springs. The ordinance requires that all new residential projects to be solarized.
He said the ordinance is in preparation for the California energy code updates for
2020, which will require all new construction be zero net energy consumption. He
asked that staff look into a similar ordinance for the City of Palm Desert.
Chairman Pradetto requested that staff have an update on the request from Mr.
Chan.
XIII. ADJOURNMENT
With the Planning Commission concurrence, Chairman Pradetto adjourned the
meeting at 6:55 p.m.
SEPH PRADETTO, CHAIRMAN
ATTEST:
RYAN STENDELL, SECRETARY
PALM DESERT PLANNING COMMISSION
MONICA O'REILLY, RECOR61 G SECRETARY
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