HomeMy WebLinkAbout2019-06-18 PC Regular Meeting Minutes CITY OF PALM DESERT
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• TUESDAY, JUNE 18, 2019 — 6:00 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBER
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE, PALM DESERT, CA 92260
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Ron Gregory called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Present: Absent:
Commissioner Joseph Pradetto Vice-Chair Lindsay Holt
Commissioner John Greenwood
Commissioner Nancy DeLuna
Chair Ron Gregory
Staff Present:
Robert W. Hargreaves, City Attorney
Ryan Stendell, Director of Community Development
Bo Chen, City Engineer
Eric Ceja, Principal Planner
Nick Melloni, Assistant Planner
Janine Judy, Management Specialist I
III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Joseph Pradetto led the Pledge of Allegiance.
IV. SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION
None
V. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
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VI. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. MINUTES of the Regular Planning Commission meeting of May 21, 2019.
Rec: Approve as presented.
Upon a motion by Commissioner Greenwood, second by Commissioner DeLuna, and
a 4-0 vote of the Planning Commission (AYES: DeLuna, Greenwood, Gregory, and Pradetto;
NOES: None; ABSENT: Holt) the Consent Calendar was approved as presented.
VII. CONSENT ITEMS HELD OVER
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VIII. NEW BUSINESS
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IX. CONTINUED BUSINESS
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X. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATION of Precise Plan 19-0001 and Conditional Use
Permit 19-0004 for a request to construct two additional dwellings, and establish a
recreational event facility with incidental overnight stays on a property containing a
historic structure, generally known as the Miles C. Bates House at 73-697 Santa Rosa
Way; and adoption of a Notice of Exemption in accordance with the California
Environmental Quality Act (CEQA). Case Nos. PP 19-0001/CUP 19-0004 (Palm
Desert Wave House, LLC, Palm Desert, California, Applicant).
Assistant Planner Nick Melloni presented the staff report (staff report(s) are available at
www.cityofpalmdesert.org). Staff recommended approval of Planning Commission
Resolution No. 2758, and provide direction to prepare a Historic Preservation Overlay
District of the said property. He concluded his report and noted that the applicant has a
short presentation for the Commission to see.
Commissioner Nancy DeLuna asked if there would be two or three units designed for
short-term rentals (STRs).
Mr. Melloni replied there would be three units.
Commissioner DeLuna asked if the STRs are limited to six people and parking is limited
to three cars.
Mr. Melloni answered that the STRs are limited to six people and up to four cars. He noted
that the driveway would also be utilized for parking.
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Commissioner DeLuna clarified that STR parking would all be on-site and no parking on
the street.
Mr. Melloni replied yes.
Commissioner DeLuna asked Mr. Melloni to explain the correlation of a Historic
Preservation designation to allow a zoning variance so historical properties could have
STRs.
Chair Gregory suggested that the applicant first address the Commission about the
proposed project.
When the City and the applicant agreed to the Mills Act Contract, Commissioner Pradetto
inquired if there was an understanding that a Conditional Use Permit (CUP) would need
to go before the Planning Commission for approval.
Mr. Melloni replied that it was not a condition of the Mills Act Contract. The Mills Act
Contract only laid out preservation goals and specific conditions. He pointed out that one
specific condition was to maintain a clear view of the property from the public right-of-way,
so there is a public benefit.
Commissioner Pradetto stated that the way he read and understood the contract, the
applicant has already agreed and is obligated to maintain the home to historic
preservation standards, regardless of what the Planning Commission decides this
evening.
Mr. Melloni replied that is correct.
If the Commission potentially approves the Precise Plan (PP) and the CUP, Commissioner
Pradetto said the Commission is helping the applicant to do something to which he is
already obligated and has agreed to.
Director of Community Development Ryan Stendell responded that throughout the
negotiations for the property between the City and applicant, there was a commitment
given by City staff (not Planning staff) that the City would consider this use as a
mechanism to help the applicant recover their investment for the rehab of the structures.
Commissioner DeLuna asked if there would be live music outdoors, such as a band.
Mr. Melloni replied that the applicant did not clearly outline music outdoors in the
application and deferred the question to the applicant.
Commissioner DeLuna asked if there is an ordinance that states activities and sound must
cease by 10:00 p.m. She also asked if the ordinance applies to the entire neighborhood.
Mr. Melloni noted that the ordinance Commissioner DeLuna referred to is the City's Noise
Ordinance. He said that the Noise Ordinance does not specifically state when noise must
cease. However, the decibel maximum measurement changes at 10:00 p.m., and noise
must be turned down.
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Commissioner DeLuna inquired if the proposed facility would need to comply with the
Noise Ordinance.
Mr. Melloni replied yes.
Commissioner John Greenwood asked where the parking would be located off-site for
events.
Mr. Melloni replied that potentially parking would be available at the Joslyn Senior Center.
Commissioner Greenwood asked if parking has been discussed with the Joslyn Senior
Center.
Mr. Melloni deferred the question to the applicant.
Commissioner DeLuna commented that an event could have up to 150 guests. She asked
if the applicant is required to have a written contract with the Joslyn Senior Center
because it is conceivable that the senior center could also have an event.
Mr. Melloni answered that there would need to be a formal parking agreement between
the applicant and the Joslyn Senior Center. If parking is not available, the event could not
be held.
Commissioner DeLuna asked if the parking agreement includes valet parking.
Mr. Melloni replied that the agreement could include valet, and the applicant would need
to apply for a valet parking permit through the City.
Commissioner DeLuna commented that she envisions 100 cars in a residential
neighborhood for an event. She believed to have valet parking would simplify parking.
Mr. Stendell agreed that valet parking could be a solution to a parking problem.
Chair Gregory declared the public hearing open and invited public testimony FAVORING or
OPPOSING this matter.
MR. CHRISTIAN STAYNER, Applicant/Architect, Los Angeles, California, noted that his
father and architect Gilbert Stayner and project manager John Going are also present. He
mentioned his family was the successful bidder of the property, auctioned by the
Successor Agency to the Palm Desert Redevelopment Agency. They became owners of
the property in October 2018, and they committed to restoring the house as thoughtfully
as possible. He mentioned that the house had been vacant for the past decade and was
in bad shape. He displayed photos to show their commitment to bringing the house back
to life. He disclosed they are making significant headway restoring the 800-square-foot
house, which they are doing per the National Park Service Secretary of the Interior's
Standards. Mr. Stayner said they are adding two dwelling units because the house is too
small. He briefly mentioned the interest from community members in this project and their
family's interest in sharing the house with the Palm Desert community and beyond.
Therefore, they would proactively manage the house with a vehicle, such as a CUP, so
there are procedures in place. Approving the CUP would provide an asset for Palm Desert
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and its residents, the project reflects the goals set forth in the City's General Plan, and
contributes to the revitalization of San Pablo Avenue. He mentioned that the house is
unlike any other, and the property was placed on the City's Landmark list, as well as on
the State and Federal listings of historical sites. He also mentioned that they entered into
a 10-year Mills Act Contract with the City to ensure the long-term preservation of the
home. However, on May 23, 2019, the City Council approved expanding the contract an
additional 15 years for a total of 25 years. He summarized some of the improvements they
would do to the house and grounds. Lastly, he stated that the Community Development
Department developed extensive conditions to ensure compatibility with the surrounding
properties. The CUP would establish rigorous requirements that other projects in the
overlay would need to meet. He sees the CUP as a model for other cities to look to when
faced with developers who would rather tear down a structure like the "Wave House" than
do a restoration. He thanked the Planning Commission for their time and consideration.
Before an event, Commissioner DeLuna asked the applicant if a parking agreement would
be in place with the Joslyn Senior Center. She had a concern if there is an event at the house
and at the senior center for the same day and time, and parking would not be available.
MR. STAYNER responded that they have spoken with the executive director of the Joslyn
Senior Center, Mr. Jack Newby. He communicated that Mr. Newby was in favor of the project
and offered the use of the senior center's parking lot. Additionally, they surveyed the area
for available parking; privately and publicly owned. Fortunately,they found a couple of places
that they hope to establish one or more parking agreements.
Commissioner DeLuna made clear that the applicant agreed to have a parking agreement
in place with the Joslyn Senior Center before an event. She asked the applicant about valet
parking.
MR. STAYNER said they are open to having valet parking if allowed by the City.
Commissioner DeLuna commented that having 100 or more cars for an event could cause
congestion in the area, and the nearby residents are entitled to quiet enjoyment of the
neighborhood. She asked if there would be live music, a band, or what type of music.
MR. STAYNER responded that they discussed music with Community Development staff.
He said they are willing to not having amplified music.
Commissioner DeLuna asked the applicant if they are willing to abide by the Noise
Ordinance and have sound reduced at 10:00 p.m.
MR. STAYNER answered that they proposed having the music turned off by 10:00 p.m.
Commissioner DeLuna noted that they are doing a great job with the restoration. Regarding
STRs, she asked the applicant how many cars would park on the property for overnight
stays.
MR. STAYNER explained that there is a house on the property, and they requested to add
two units. They agree to limit each unit to two persons; totaling six persons on the property.
Per the code, he understood four parking spaces are required, and they have provided three
parking spaces. Therefore, they added more than the requirement.
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Commissioner Greenwood inquired what type of events would be held on the property.
MR. STAYNER communicated that they have been very careful about restoring the house,
and they plan to buy appropriate and expensive furniture for the house. They thought of
having people experience the house would be through corporate meetings, gatherings, and
small wedding events. He mentioned that the City asked if they were willing to offer a monthly
tour of the house.
Commissioner Greenwood asked if the STRs are limited to one-night stays.
MR. STAYNER replied that they might have a minimum of two nights.
Regarding the architecture, Commissioner Greenwood asked the applicant if they foresee
any changes that would take away from the simple and clean lines shown on the schematics.
He said he wants to make sure what they are looking at is what would be developed.
MR. STAYNER noted that the drawings are several months old. However,the drawings have
not been superseded by changes as they develop the site plan, utility plan, and construction
details.
Commissioner DeLuna inquired if they are going to insulate the wave roof from the heat of
the sun.
MR. STAYNER responded that they were able to hide six inches of foam insulation on top
and tapering it to the edge at the front.
MR. GILBERT STAYNER, Applicant/Architect, Los Angeles, California, shared that the
purpose for the STRs is to build an endowment to cover some of the massive costs to restore
the property and to maintain the home over the years.
Commissioner DeLuna asked if anyone would live in the house.
MR. G. STAYNER said no. They own the property but want to share it with the community.
He reiterated that they need the income from the STRs to help with costs to maintain the
home.
Chair Gregory asked staff if the STR restrictions apply to the proposed use, as they dealt
with STRs in the past.
Mr. Stendell replied yes.
Chair Gregory asked if it is correct that there would not be amplified music and music would
be turned off at its entirety at 10:00 p.m.
The applicant replied yes.
Chair Gregory understood that valet parking is an option. He asked the applicant if they
considered a shuttle, so they are not inflicting other people on the street with hundreds of
cars going back and forth.
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MR. STAYER responded that they discussed using shuttles with City staff. For big events,
they are to meet with staff and arrange for parking and shuttle service.
Commissioner Pradetto pointed out that Condition of Approval No. 14 states that off-site
parking has to be within 900 feet of the venue and he asked why.
Mr. Melloni responded that staff could modify the condition.
Mr. Stendell asked Mr. Melloni if there is a reason for the 900 feet.
Mr. Melloni replied that the 900 feet came from looking at previous CUP approvals, which
they had off-site parking limited to be within 300 feet. He stated it is not vital to have
immediate access to parking.
Commissioner Pradetto asked what the purpose of putting a distance limit to parking is.
Mr. Melloni said there were special uses that did not have sufficient on-site parking. For
example, in the 1990s, office buildings were permitted in a multi-family zone.
Commissioner Greenwood commented that if good mechanisms are in place, such as valet
parking or shuttle service, concerns could be easily mitigated.
Mr. Melloni reaffirmed that the applicant could work with City staff regarding parking.
MS. JANN BULLER, Palm Desert, California, noted that the Planning Commission has her
detailed comments in their packets. She recommended the following changes to the CUP:
1) the CUP must be predicated and conditioned on City Council's direction to City staff to
define a Historic Preservation Overlay District, which would then be applied to the site; 2)
the use of the dwelling units for STRs should be clarified, specifically, whether or not the
units could be rented independently of particular events; 3) the CUP should be modified to
explicitly require compliance with Chapter 5.10 of the Palm Desert Municipal Code (PDMC);
4) Condition of Approval No. 12A needs to conform with Chapter 5.10 and the Noise
Ordinance. It should be clarified with respect to complaint reporting and use of the phrase
persons of normal sensitivity; 5) Condition of Approval No 17, the total number of attendees
should be reduced; and 6) within 12 to 18 months, staff should review property operations
and report results to the City Council, with an opportunity for public comments and take the
appropriate action.
With no further testimony offered, Chair Gregory declared the public hearing closed.
Commissioner DeLuna commented that the proposed project is a unique opportunity and
a unique property. The applicant is doing a great job; she supports the project and wants
it to be successful. However, given the frequency and the attendance of some of the
events, there could be over 8,000 people a year. She stated residents in the area would
be affected by noise and traffic. She suggested reducing the maximum number of
attendees and hoped it could still be successful.
Commissioner Pradetto asked Commissioner DeLuna what ideas she had to address her
concerns.
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Commissioner DeLuna recommended 75 to 100 people for the big events and less than
12 events per year. She also recommended two events per month for smaller events.
Commissioner Pradetto commented that big events would cluster around the season, and
not have many large events during the summer. Theoretically, the Planning Commission
could recommend up to 75 people and no more than once a week for small events. He
said that would put a cap, and the applicant would still have the ability to have overnight
stays. He did not recommend limiting large events. He said 12 events per year sounds
like a lot; however, the events would cluster around the season.
Commissioner DeLuna interjected that there would still be many people going through a
multi-family residential neighborhood.
Chair Gregory commented that there would not be a great impact, in terms of traffic, if
visitors were shuttled for large events. He said if the number of people were reduced to
100, it would also address Commissioner DeLuna's concern. He agreed with
Commissioner Pradetto's comment that the large events would cluster around the season.
Chair Gregory stated that he would like to open the public hearing again to ask the
applicant a question.
Chair Gregory declared the public hearing open.
The Planning Commission asked the applicant to address the number of people for
events.
MR. C. STAYNER explained that they based the number of maximum occupants on the
Arthur Newman Theatre, which is one parcel over and has 160 seats. When they have an
event, they have more people going through the neighborhood. Therefore, they were
being compatible with something that is already occurring within the neighborhood. He
noted that he did not know how often events are held at the theatre.
Commissioner DeLuna asked the applicant to envision an event with 150 people on their
property, and the theatre has a big event on the same night. She voiced that is too many
people in one night and in close proximity to one another.
MR. C. STAYNER indicated that the use of the Joslyn Senior Center parking lot would be
based on the center's event schedule.
If the number was reduced to 100 people, Commissioner DeLuna asked the applicant if
they could work with that number.
MR. C. STAYNER responded that when they looked at finances, they felt having 100 to
150 people would help recover costs for the amenities they are providing on the property
for events.
Commissioner DeLuna inquired if there would be an event during the day and another
event at night.
MR. C. STAYNER replied no.
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Commissioner Pradetto reiterated that one way to address frequency is to eliminate the
small event category, a maximum of 75 people, and one or two events a week.
Commissioner DeLuna asked the applicant how they felt if the Commission restricted the
number of events to 52 per year.
MR. C. STAYNER answered that they are amenable to the number of events per year.
He said they proposed the smaller events to be consistent with what is allowed at other
private homes.
Commissioner Greenwood asked staff to elaborate on the Historic Preservation Overlay
District. Additionally, he asked if the Commission would need to approve the overlay this
evening or recommend to staff look into and develop.
Mr. Melloni responded that the overlay did not need approval this evening from the
Planning Commission. The request is to have staff initiate and develop a Zoning
Ordinance Amendment. He explained that the amendment would go before the Planning
Commission, Cultural Resources Preservation Committee, and the City Council for
approval.
Commissioner Greenwood asked if the direction to staff would need to be part of the
motion.
Mr. Melloni replied it would need to be by Minute Motion.
Mr. Stendell interjected that the request is No. 2 under the recommendation of the staff
report.
Commissioner Pradetto inquired if the overlay is creating work for something that would
not be used often. He asked what the purpose of the overlay relative to this case is. He
asked if they are creating a template for something the City does not need to replicate
often.
Mr. Melloni responded that the intent of having the zoning overlay district is to limit a
precedent throughout the City and not concentrated in areas where historic homes are
located. However, the overlay would be in an area where it is compatible.
Commissioner Pradetto remarked that compatibility would be determined through the
CUP process.
Due to the STR debate, Mr. Stendell communicated that there had to be a mechanism to
ensure people a special circumstance was involved with the proposed use. He said the
overlay might be used sporadically, but it paints a picture for people that have a concern
with STRs. The overlay would give people comfort to know that this type of use would not
occur all over Palm Desert.
Commissioner DeLuna inquired if there is any other place in Palm Desert that would have
a house with a historic preservation designation, and the homeowner would want to have
a STR.
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Mr. Stendell replied it is possible. He does not think this type of use would occur
everywhere in the City.
Commissioner Greenwood asked what the process is if there was a request to amend the
CUP.
Mr. Stendell responded that City staff or the applicant could initiate an amendment. The
amendment would go before the Planning Commission for review and approval.
With no further testimony offered, Chair Gregory declared the public hearing closed.
Chair Gregory commented that he does not want to penalize the applicant. The applicant
is doing something of phenomenal benefit to the City at a great expense. He noted that
the applicant is not a large corporation and they need to recoup costs for the investment
and maintenance. He said he is not sure if the Commission should require the applicant
to have shuttle service so cars and noise do not have a negative impact on the
neighborhood. He asked if it is necessary to diminish the maximum size of people the
applicant proposed for events or the frequency. He noted that the applicant has already
worked with City staff and the applicant would need a certain number of people for the
project to be successful. He stated that the applicant was amenable to recommendations
made by the Commission. Therefore, he feels more comfortable with respect to the impact
on the neighborhood.
Commissioner Pradetto said that he was persuaded when the applicant said, "it is not a
normal house." After the presentation, he agreed. He said he was conflicted between the
use, the impacts, and the project itself. He clarified that making a motion does not end the
discussion, but it actually facilitates discussion. He moved for approval and amended
Condition of Approval No. 14 to eliminate the space requirement for off-site parking.
Commissioner DeLuna asked if the motion includes music must cease at 10:00 p.m. and
no outdoor amplified music. If not, she asked Commissioner Pradetto if he would add it to
the conditions as part of his motion.
Commissioner Pradetto inquired if there is already a condition regarding no music at 10:00
p.m.
Commissioner DeLuna remarked no.
Mr. Stendell responded that the PDMC governs the time; however, the code does not
include amplified music. Therefore, the Planning Commission must specify in the motion
if they do not want to allow amplified music.
Commissioner Pradetto clarified that his motion did not include a condition for amplified
music because he does not see a problem with amplified music, if the applicant abides to
the Noise Ordinance.
Chair Gregory asked Commissioner Pradetto about the shuttle service.
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Commissioner Pradetto believed shuttle service is included in the conditions of approval
(No. 14); however, the applicant could decide how they want to handle parking. He does
not believe the applicant would let their guests walk over a 1,000 feet.
Commissioner DeLuna asked Commissioner Pradetto to restate his motion.
Commissioner Pradetto moved to waive further reading and adopt Planning
Commission Resolution No. 2758, approving Case Nos. PP 19-0001/CUP 19-0004; and
amending Condition of Approval No. 14 to remove the distance requirement for off-site
parking.
Commissioner DeLuna asked if the conditions of approval include that the applicant must
have a prearranged parking agreement with an off-site venue.
Commissioner Pradetto replied that it is in Condition of Approval No. 14.
Commissioner Greenwood asked if there is any benefit to specifying on Condition of
Approval No. 18 that it is a total of six occupants instead of two occupants per dwelling.
In addition to the motion stated above, Commissioner Pradetto amended Condition of
Approval No. 18 to read as follows, "The maximum occupancy for overnight stays shall be no
more than six persons.
Commissioner DeLuna questioned why Commissioner Pradetto would not include a
condition regarding amplified music.
Commissioner Pradetto stated if people want to dance during a wedding at 7:00 p.m., he
did not see why the City would need to prohibit the use of amplified music.
Chair Gregory interjected that he did not like amplified music in a neighborhood.
Commissioner Pradetto asked Chair Gregory what is his definition of amplified music.
Chair Gregory replied electronic means of making music louder.
Commissioner Pradetto clarified that an electric guitar or bass is not allowed. However,
they could have string instruments and a tuba.
Chair Gregory replied yes.
Commissioner Pradetto stated his motion is on the table and could fail if the motion is not
seconded.
Chair Gregory asked Commissioner Pradetto if he is not addressing amplified music.
Commissioner Pradetto replied that he addressed amplified music, but it is not part of his
motion.
Chair Gregory asked if there is a second to the motion.
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The motion died for a lack of a second.
Commissioner DeLuna moved to waive further reading and 1) Adopt Planning
Commission Resolution No. 2758, approving Case Nos. PP 19-0001/CUP 19-0004 and adopt
a Notice of Exemption in accordance with CEQA, subject to the conditions of approval as
amended with removing the distance requirement for off-site parking, amending Condition of
Approval No. 18 to read as follows, "The maximum occupancy for overnight stays shall be no
more than six persons," and adding a condition prohibiting amplified music outdoors; 2) by
Minute Motion, staff to prepare a Historic Preservation Overlay District to be retroactively
applied to this property.
Commissioner Greenwood asked what the Noise Ordinance dictates with respect to
playing music in the backyard. For example, he is at his home and has a speaker out
listening to music.
Mr. Melloni explained that the Noise Ordinance addresses decibel limits; however, the
ordinance does not specify a source of the noise.
Commissioner DeLuna interjected that if someone is having an occasional party in their
backyard is different from an event venue that is designed to have people constantly.
Commissioner Greenwood pointed out that there are different levels of noise. He said
there could be speakers at a corporate meeting event, or they may need to show a video
that would need a speaker.
Chair Gregory remarked that they are referring to music.
Commissioner Pradetto shared that he is going to be the first client and is going to have
a marching band. He voiced that the Noise Ordinance is a system to set a limit to noise,
and the City allows people to figure out how to mitigate the noise. He said they are now
approaching a goal, so he asked if the Planning Commission should shortcut the system
with a goal, which is no amplified music.
Chair Gregory stated that the venue would have repetitive events in a neighborhood.
Commissioner Pradetto interjected that the venue is designed to mitigate noise in many
ways.
Chair Gregory commented that shrubbery would not help mitigate noise. He said the
placement of buildings would help.
Commissioner DeLuna believed that the applicant agreed to not having amplified music.
Commissioner DeLuna's motion was seconded by Commissioner Greenwood and
carried by a 4-0 vote (AYES: DeLuna, Greenwood, Gregory, and Pradetto; NOES: None;
ABSENT: Holt).
The Planning Commission thanked the applicant. It is a beautiful project.
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XI. MISCELLANEOUS
None
XII. COMMITTEE MEETING UPDATES
A. ART IN PUBLIC PLACES
None
B. PARKS & RECREATION
None
XIII. COMMENTS
Commissioner Greenwood asked when construction would begin on San Pablo Avenue.
Mr. Ceja responded that construction equipment would start mobilizing on July 1, and the
actual construction beginning July 8. He noted that one side of San Pablo Avenue would
be open at all times.
City Attorney Robert Hargreaves introduced Craig Hayes, an Associate with Best Best &
Krieger, who will be working with the Planning Department and the Planning Commission.
XIV. ADJOURNMENT
With the Planning Commission concurrence, Chair Gregory adjourned the meeting at
7:25 p.m.
RON GREGORY, CH
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