HomeMy WebLinkAbout2016-08-29 CSC Regular Meeting Minutes CITY OF PALM DESERT
CITIZENS' SUSTAINABILITY COMITTEEE
MINUTES
MONDAY, AUGUST 29, 2016 —3:00 P.M.
ADMINISTRATIVE CONFERENCE ROOM
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE, PALM DESERT, CA 92260
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Susan Rosenberg called the meeting to order at 3:02 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Present:
Member Tommy Edwards
Member Gregory Gritters
Member Dennis Guinaw
Member Courtney Lingle
Member Ralph Raya
Vice Chair Dean Gatons
Chair Susan Rosenberg
Also Present:
Sabby Jonathan, Council Member
Justin McCarthy, Interim City Manager
Ryan Stendell, Director of Community Development
Mark Greenwood, Director of Public Works
Randy Chavez, Landscape Supervisor
Deborah Glickman, Management Analyst
Lisa Ream, Recycling Technician
Monica O'Reilly, Recording Secretary
III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. MINUTES of the Citizens' Sustainability Committee meeting of November 16,
2015.
Rec: Approve as presented.
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Upon a motion by Vice Chair Gatons, second by Member Raya, and a 6-0-1 vote of
the Citizens' Sustainability Committee, the Consent Calendar was approved as presented
(AYES: Gatons, Gritters, Guinaw, Lingle, Raya, and Rosenberg; NOES: None; ABSTAIN:
Edwards).
V. CONSENT ITEMS HELD OVER
None
VI. NEW BUSINESS
A. PRESENTATION ON THE CALIFORNIA MUNICIPAL FINANCE AUTHORITY
(CMFA) PACE PROGRAM BY BENJAMIN DRUYON, COACHELLA VALLEY
ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTS (CVAG).
Mr. Benjamin Druyon, CVAG, provided an update on the Property Assessed Clean
Energy (PACE) program for the Coachella Valley, and named three current PACE
program providers for the City of Palm Desert (Ygrene, HERO, and
Calif orniaFIRST).
Mr. Lee McCormick, CMFA, talked briefly about the CMFA and said they are
requesting an approval from the Sustainability Committee to move forward with the
program in Palm Desert. He asked the Committee if they had any questions.
Ms. Deborah Glickman, Management Analyst, asked Mr. McCormick to talk about
the types of projects that the CMFA funds.
Mr. McCormick responded that CMFA fund commercial and residential projects. The
program would finance or refinance energy efficiency improvements, water efficiency
improvements, and other improvements.
Member Gregory Gritters asked if country clubs are considered a non-profit
organization.
Mr. McCormick replied no. He said only commercial and residential property owners
could use PACE financing to make energy efficient or renewable energy
improvements.
Member] Gritters asked what the terms of the PACE programs are compared to the
other PACE programs.
Mr. McCormick explained the repayment is collected as part of the property owner's
taxes, and the CMFA has many finance structures.
Councilmember Sabby Jonathan commented that some utilities are restructuring
their solar energy programs, such that, some homeowners are not able to benefit as
much or at all from some of the incentives. He questioned if there has been an
impact on the demand or what would be the future impact.
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Mr. McCormick said that they have not seen much of an impact yet. He stated that
utility companies are moving towards a lesser charge for the power itself, but
charging more for the infrastructure that could impact PACE down the road.
Vice Chair Gatons mentioned he receives unsolicited sales calls daily regarding
PACE programs. He said people do not understand the PACE programs, and they
cannot follow the people that are calling them about the programs.
Mr. Druyon asked Vice Chair Gatons if he is receiving sales calls.
Vice Chair Gatons replied that they are salespersons/telemarketers.
Mr. Druyon stated that CVAG is working on putting a stop to the telemarketers. He
explained that they are third party vendors. The vendors are canvassing areas and
providing wrong information.
Vice Chair Gatons voiced his concern with the miscommunication that continues with
the telemarketers.
Mr. McCormick mentioned that PACE program agencies are doing some self-
policing to address issues with the telemarketers.
Chair Rosenberg agreed with Vice Chair Gatons concern. She had another concern
of any liability that the City of Palm Desert could incur if the telemarketers
recommend the PACE program and bad things happen because contractors are not
explaining the program properly.
Member Tommy Edwards commented that some homeowners' associations (HOA)
are non-profits, and asked if they are considered commercial properties. Do they
qualify for financing?
Mr. McCormick replied that he has not come across an HOA using PACE for
improvements. He did not have an answer at that moment, but would follow up with
an answer.
Ms. Glickman said that Mr. McCormick could send her the answer, and she would
forward to the Sustainability Committee.
Member Dennis Guinaw shared that he secured a PACE loan for a new air
conditioner, and noted that his Southern California Edison bill has gone down
approximately $100 a month.
Chair Rosenberg asked if there are issues with people selling their properties that
have a PACE loan.
Mr. Druyon responded that the Obama Administration addressed that PACE liens
are good. The administration is working with the Federal Housing Administration,
Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac so a PACE lien does not become an issue upon the
sale or refinance of a property.
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Mr. McCormick added that it also becomes a negotiating point during the sale of a
property to either keep the lien on the property or pay the lien off.
Vice Chair Gatons moved to recommend to the City Council to approve the City of
Palm Desert's participation in the CMFA PACE Program. Motion was seconded by Member
Gritters and carried by a 7-0 vote (AYES: Edwards, Gatons, Gritters, Guinaw, Lingle, Raya,
and Rosenberg; NOES: None).
B. PRESENTATION ON THE PROPOSED MODEL LANDSCAPER
CERTIFICATION ORDINANCE BY KATIE BARROWS, COACHELLA VALLEY
ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTS.
Ms. Glickman stated that CVAG is recommending that landscapers go through a
certification process for water conservation, and introduced Ms. Katie Barrows,
CVAG, who would present the proposed ordinance.
Ms. Katie Barrows, presented that the Coachella Valley Water District (CVWD)
approached CVAG to initiate a landscaper certification program that would allow
landscapers to increase their knowledge and use of best practices in water
conservation. She explained they would combine the water efficiency course with the
existing Overseeding Certification Program. She stated that CVAG is recommending
the Citizen's Sustainability Committee recommend to the City Council an adoption of
an amendment to the existing Model Landscaper Overseeding Certification
Ordinance to incorporate the course on water efficiency. She noted that the CVWD
is working with the College of the Desert to offer the course online, and an
educational outreach is planned to let everyone know about the program. She
offered to answer any questions.
Member Raya asked Ms. Barrows to define landscaper.
Ms. Barrows replied that they are targeting the small landscaper businesses. She
said most of the large country clubs and large landscaper businesses are aware of
the water efficiency requirements. A landscaper is defined in the ordinance as a
landscape-related business that must complete the course as a prerequisite for the
issuance or renewal of a business license.
Chair Rosenberg asked how many landscape-related businesses have business
licenses in Palm Desert. It was said that there are a lot of businesses that have a
business license.
Chair Rosenberg inquired how the City verifies that a landscaper has completed the
course.
Mr. Ryan Stendell, Director of Community Development, replied that the landscaper
must provide a certificate when applying for a business license.
Ms. Lisa Ream, Recycling Technician, asked if it is a one-time certificate or does the
landscaper have to take a refresher course.
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Ms. Barrows responded that she did not know and would look into Ms. Ream's
question.
Member Edwards asked if there is a cost to take the course. Ms. Barrows replied
that the course is free.
Chair Rosenberg asked how they reach out to the HOAs.
Ms. Barrows replied that they are going to rely on the water districts to provide the
HOAs with the information, possibly through inserts with their water bill.
Member Gritters mentioned that most HOA management companies are fairly
sophisticated, as far as their landscape contracts. Most contract specifications
require that the landscape bidders need the smart scalping certification. He noted
that course certificates should be renewed.
Councilmember Jonathan inquired if there are computers available for landscapers
to use, and is the course available in Spanish.
Ms. Barrows said that COD has computers available at the Westfield Shopping
Center or they could also contact COD. All materials are available in English and
Spanish.
Councilmember Jonathan commented that the amendment to include a course on
water efficiency is CVWD's responsibility; therefore, they should be quick at moving
this program forward. He felt that CVWD should have also been present along with
Ms. Barrows.
Ms. Barrows responded that CVWD has mentioned they are taking full responsibility
of this program.
Chair Rosenberg noted there is a short quiz. She asked if there is a test they need to
pass or does everyone pass.
Ms. Barrows responded that there are some questions that need to be answered.
However, she did not know exactly how they are scored. She said she would find out
and forward the information to Ms. Glickman.
Member Edwards commented that an edlcational outreach about the program is
important. For the big landscape companlies that might have 20 employees, they
should have at least two people that have taken the course.
Chair Rosenberg pointed out that the proposed amendment states that at least one
employee must complete a four-hour course within 12 months immediately
preceding the application.
Member Gritters moved to recommend to the City Council to approve an amendment to the
Model Landscaper Certification Ordinance. Motion was seconded by Member Raya and
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carried by a 7-0 vote. (AYES: Edwards, Gatons, Gritters, Guinaw, Lingle, Raya, and
Rosenberg; Noes: None).
Ms. Barrows announced that the Desert Horticultural Society will have their 11tn
Annual Desert Garden Community Day at UCR Palm Desert from 8:30 a.m. to 1:00
p.m. on October 15, 2016.
Councilmember Jonathan asked if there are moderate changes to the draft
ordinance, would the Committee want the changes to come back to the
Sustainability Committee for review.
Member Gritters responded that he does not feel it is necessary to bring back small
modifications to the Committee. Last, he noted that the CVWD penalties reinforce
education.
VII. CONTINUED BUSINESS
None
VIII. OLD BUSINESS
None
IX. REPORTS AND REMARKS
A. Committee Members Comments
Vice Chair Gatons welcomed back Ms. Ream. He felt the City owes the community a
follow up regarding single-use plastic bags. He voiced his concern with the confusion
factor. He asked if people understand what was voted in by the City Council. He
noted that single-use plastic bags would go to a statewide vote in November 2016.
He noted that not all retail stores are following the ordinance, which is causing
confusion; therefore, education is needed.
Councilmember Jonathan responded that part of the challenge and confusion is that
national retail stores do not want to deal with different city ordinances so they are
charging everyone for a bag. However, people at the checkout counter in a Palm
Desert think it is the City's ordinance, even though it is the store's corporate policy.
Lastly, Vice Chair Gatons thanked Mr. Justin McCarthy for his time as the interim
City Manager.
Chair Rosenberg clarified that there is not another Sustainability Committee meeting
scheduled at this point.
Ms. Glickman replied that is correct.
Vice Chair Gatons requested that they have an advance notice of any upcoming
meetings.
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X. ADJOURNMENT
With Committee concurrence, Chair Rosenberg adjourned the meeting at 3:53 p.m.
Monica O'Reilly, Recording S etary
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