HomeMy WebLinkAbout1975-03-19ADJOURNED CITY COUNCIL MEETING
MARCH 19, 1975
PALM DESERT MIDDLE SCHOOL
I. CALL TO ORDER
The Adjourned City Council meeting was called to
order by Mayor Clark at 7:07 P.M. on March 19, 1975 at
the Palm Desert Middle School.
II. PLEDGE
III. INVOCATION
IV. ROLL CALL
Present: Councilman CHUCK ASTON; Councilwoman JEAN BENSON;
Councilman NOEL BRUSH; Councilman JIM McPHERSON;
Mayor HENRY B. CLARK
Absent: None
Others Present:
City Manager - Harvey L. Hurlburt
City Attorney - Dave Erwin
Dir. of Environmental Services - Paul Williams
V. AWARDS, PRESENTATIONS & APPOINTMENTS
A. Citizens Advisory Committee vacancy appointments
Mayor Clark announced that no appointments had
been made to this Committee but hoped the vacancies would
be filled at the next regular City Council meeting.
B. Redevelopment Agency Project Area Committee appointments
Mayor Clark said it was intended to have 20 members
on this Committee, that there are presently 14 members, and
that three additional appointments had been made: Wally
Bolmeier, realtor; Loring G. Cleaveland, a chiropractor whose
business is located on Allesandro on the north side; and Dale
Hobbs who is a property owner within the Redevelopment Area.
He added that one of the requirements for appointments is
that they have their business or are a property owner within
the area.
Councilman Aston moved, Councilman McPherson
seconded that Wally Bolmeier, Dr. Lorine G. Cleaveland and
Dale Hobbs be appointed to serve on the Project Area Com-
mittee. Motion carried unanimously.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
A. City Clerk report on General Plan referendum
petition signature verification.
Mr. Hurlburt reported that on February 18, 1975
he received a petition for a referendum on the General Plan.
This was sent for verification of signatures, and the County
returned them on March 18. Originally there were 672
signatures. Of these, 638 were verified, 34 did not qualify.
A total of 345 qualified signatures were needed on the petition
to meet the 10% of registered voters required by law.
B. Report from City Attorney on legal matters relative
to General Plan referendum
Attorney Erwin said the Council had three alterna-
tives. The first is for the Council to rescind Resolution No.
75-2 which was the resolution adopting the General Plan. This
is an action which would not affect parts of the General Plan
but is an action which would, in effect, rescind the entire
plan. If the Council does not rescind it, it is obligated to
call a general election within not less than 74 days and no
more than 89 days at which time the question would be presented
to the voters as to whether the General Plan should stand or
fall. The third alternative - the subject of referendum is
one which is available to the voters in the community which
would allow them on legislative matters to override the deci-
sion of the Council. He had spent considerable time researching
the matter and discussing with other municipal attorneys
throughout the State. It is his opinion that the provisions
of the Elections Code, as it relates to a resolution adopting
a General Plan, are not applicable, and that it is not a
legislative act that can be the subject of a referendum. His
recommendation is that the Council not call the requested
election.
Assuming the Council should rescind the resolution,
the Code sections are very clear that ,rou may not take the
same action within one year. Assuninr; it is determined to
call an election and the election were successful, that would
mean the City Council would not be able to adopt a General plan
for one year from that date. Failure of the City to comply
with the State Law which mandates the adoption by July 1 could
subject the City to many possible problems which have been
covered before --possible litigation, stopping building permits,
etc. as well as proceeding any further with the zoning ordi-
nance or adoption of the redevelopment plan. It is his opinion
at the present time that as far as the third alternative is
concerned, the General Plan, once adopted by Resolution No. 75-2,
was effective and is effective now and until such time as it
is rescinded or a general election is successful, it will stay
in effect.
Councilman McPherson asked if the Council agreed to
the changes, could the Referendum Committee withdraw the
petition for the referendum, Attorney Erwin said the California
law is clear - once a referendum petition is filed with the City,
no signatures can be withdrawn from that petition nor can the
petition itself be withdrawn - the procedures must follow through
to the point we are tonight.
Mayor Clark said this is not a public hearing but
that it has been the practice to conduct this as an oven
meeting whenever possible and he asked the Council whether
they wished to proceed with the question or see if anyone in
the audience had any comments.
Councilman Brush said his personal feelings were
that if anyone in the audience could add anything to the
matter they should be heard, and suggested it be opened up.
The Council was in accord.
Mayor Clark said the proponents could speak first.
In this case the proponents would be those in favor of the
Council proceeding to set an election to consider the
referendum not less than 74 days and not more than 39 days
from tonight. The people opposed to setting the election in
view of the City Attorney's recommendation that it is not a
legal referendum would speak second. He asked that comments
be held to pertinent comments which might help the Council
to reach a decision and asked proponents to come to the
microphone and give their name and address.
Proponents:
David Bond, 44-532 San Pasqual, Chairman of the
Referendum Committee, said throughout the entire deliberations
they have taken the attitude they are trying to approach the
differences of opinion on the General Plan in a normal,
rational and sensible basis. They have conducted their
efforts in that direction, they met with the Citizens
Advisory Committee, and their policy is that there are
certain things within the General Plan that can be resolved
so that the problems stated with regard to the 81,800,000
are not necessary, they do not have to occur. They too
have had legal advice from capable attorneys who take issue
with the statement of the City Attorney that you may not
file another General Plan within one year. On this basis
it states you may not file the same plan. This is the basis
on which they are contending that they can meet with the
Council and resolve their differences and all the problems
can be eliminated and the General Plan can be reinstated.
They felt they had done everything within their power in
a reasonable and rational manner, provided by law under the
referendum to bring their points of contention to the Council.
They stand ready and willing, as their letter which they sent
several weeks ago stated that by the 28th of this month they
could give a complete and total detail of all the items they
wish reconsidered in the plan. To date they have had no
reply from the Council on that subject. They have met with
the Citizens Advisory Committee, the meetings were fruitful
to a degree, and they now stand ready to discuss these items
and they feel certain there can be a resolution that will
not require a general election or freezing of the General
Plan for one year. He hoped they would consider the
alternate of declaring the General Plan invalid until such
time as they can get together and resolve the differences
in opinion and reinstated it and go ahead without any more
difficulties.
Mr. Duncan Reynolds, 74-070 Goleta, said that by
making these changes it would not be the same identical plan.
He said he had been at the Palm Springs printers that same
day, that Palm Springs is laughing at us - they commented
that Rancho Mirage and Indian Wells seem to be governing
their towns in an organized manner without much friction.
He said he had seen too much friction. He voted for incorpora-
tion. He signed this particular petition because he wanted to
see Palm Desert a village type atmosphere. All of the Council
ran in the election for Council with that in mind. He said
we are going 100% percent the other way. He said he would
be leaving here after 16 years and regrets it.
There were no other proponents.
Opponents:
Mr. Steven Moore, 43-700 Carmel Circle, President
of the Carpenters Local in Palm Springs, said construction
is dead, that he can't say who is right but if this should
happen that the plan couldn't be adopted and is in stalemate
for a year and Palm Desert would lose the building permits,
Palm Desert is going to die. He said he had not had a union
job since before Christmas. They have 100 members of their
local in this area. He said he would like to see it settled
and create a City functioning on its own without all the little
bickering.
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Mr. Bob Hubbard, 1707 Sandpiper, said he still lived
in Palm Desert and his main investments are in Palm Desert.
He said he headed a group of 250 citizens who spent two
years in getting the City incorporated. He thought every-
thing was better now than it was under Riverside County.
He said he was astounded over the Referendum Committee
because he finds himself unable to recognize any name of
the Referendum Committee that has ever done anything for
the City. One of the gentlemen, Ed Peck, did a very good
job on the McKeon project some years ago. In checking who
the sponsors are it appears that they are people here part
of the year, that in most cases have nothing but a house
and have the right to express their opinion, but for 6
members to say to the City Council they will sit down and
tell them what they want and if the Council will not do it
they will cause all this unsettlement --he thought it was time
that we get responsible citizen participation and not single-
minded people who will not listen to what has been planned.
Most of the meetings with the Referendum Committee they have
listened to officials telling what the General Plan is, etc.,
and to this point nobody from the Referendum Committee has
shown up at one public meeting. This to the point where it
is government by 6 individuals who have distributed a
referendum which is inaccurate in every respect. He said
people don't take the time to read and understand what it is.
The people who have heard the facts can't believe they signed
the petitions. He could go out and get petitions against
motherhood. Mr. Hubbard suggested the Council go ahead with
the recommendation of the City Attorney at this time.
Mr. Warren Bailey 1303 Sandpiper, also one of the
Incorporation Committee, said since that time it has been
his intention to stay away from politics, however, he feels
he must now speak against the leaders of the Referendum
Committee who have used devious methods in obtaining signa-
tures to the petitions. They are using tactics of political
harrassment and it is time they cease their activities and
get behind and support their political leaders. He too
believed an illegal procedure was being done in calling for
an election.
Mr. Jack MacFadyen,73-074 Shadow Mountain Drive,
said he was a member of the Incorporation Committee and they
have remained in the background because they did not want
to inflict themselves into City government and have somebody
say they put it together and now they want to dictate how it
is to be run. He said they of the anti -Referendum Committee
have had legal counsel and believe the referendum is illegal.
Mr. MacFadyen said if the Council sets a vote for the
referendum, "we" of this Committee will file suit against
the City and its officers to stop a vote on this issue. The
City must be restrained from conducting an unlawful referendum
election brought on by vexatious litigants.
Mr. Anthony Kane, 46-215 Goldenrod, also one of the
Incorporation Committee, said he represented the Citizens
Action Committee who has taken a study of the pros and cons
of the Referendum Committee. They saw a letter sent out by
the Referendum Committee which implies that the City Council
and the Citizens Advisory Committee do not know what they
are doing. He agreed that the referendum does not apply to
the question of destroying a City plan.
The Mayor closed the hearing.
Mr. David Bond objected and said when he called he
was told they could not speak tonight and added that everyone
had come with prepared statements tonight.
The Mayor said the hearing was closed. Councilman Brush
said he was going to give Mr. Bond a chance to speak because
he had some questions to ask him. Councilman Brush said
Mr. Bond had mentioned a new plan could be adopted in time to
qualify for the redevelopment. Mr. Bond said there had been
delay. Several weeks ago they sent a letter to the Mayor
stating they would have all conditions prepared and ready
for presentation by the 28th of this month. The time remaining
is sufficient time to discuss these items and insisted that the
General Plan can be changed without waiting for one year if
those changes are essential.
Councilman Brush said he had asked on many occasions
what changes were wanted and no partial list even had been
submitted. Mr. Bond said the Mayor had said he did not want
partial presentations, that he wanted the whole thing in total.
Mr. Bond said he felt he had been outmanuevered when they had
called specifically to see if they could address the Council
and were told no. His attorney was told by the City Attorney
and as a result they had no attorney present.
Mayor Clark said the Council members had decided, in
view of the interest, they would throw the meeting open. It
is not a public hearing.
Attorney Erwin said he talked with Mr, Burrell several
times, that he had called this noon to ask if it were a public
hearing and he was told no but that if there were matters of
interest and people in the audience wished to speak, they
were permitted to do so.
Councilman McPherson asked Mr, Bond what their alterna-
tives were. Mr. Bond said that in their opinion when the
General Plan is rescinded it can be reinstated by making
changes and it can be done before an election is required.
Councilman Brush said assuming they came up with five
changes, that the Council could make those changes, could they
withdraw the referendum? Mayor Clark said he had told Mr. Bond
that he had started an irreversible action. The attorney has
made it clear that the wording in the Referendum Committee
said they were giving the Council two alternatives, one,
rescind the General Plan, two, call an election. Mayor Clark
said it is surprising that a group of people can say if you
make my five changes then it will be all right. He was sure
a lot of other people would not agree with those changes.
Because it suits the Committee's wishes to make a number of
changes, the balance of the community would have to be con-
sulted. Obviously it is a long procedure of public hearings
that other people would have the same opportunity to advise
the Council what changes should be made.
Councilwoman Benson asked if it could be invalid for
60 days, changes made and put back into effect. Attorney
Erwin said no, the action tonight as far as what you can do
is to rescind it in total. He said he was talking about
anything subject to a referendum - either rescinding the
Council action or setting it for an election.
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HEN Y B. C/ARK, MAYOR
Councilwoman Benson asked Mr. Williams, since the
plan was adopted by a resolution when could the first
amendments be adopted to resolve the problem? Mr. Williams
said any citizen could file for an amendment to the (eneral
Plan up to a maximum of 3 times a year. The City has not
established any timetable, logically it would be on a
quarterly basis.
Councilman McPherson asked about the time of certifying
the signatures. Attorney Erwin said the 30-day time limit
was met. Councilman McPherson asked if a decision had to be
made tonight. Attorney Erwin said the inference is the
Council will make a decision tonight. Councilman McPherson
said Mr. Bond had said in 9 days they would have their
recommendations. Attorney Erwin said the Code does not
state one way or another but it is inferred that action will
be taken tonight.
Councilwoman Benson commented concerning Mr. Hubbard's
statement that the 638 people who signed the petition had
never done anything for the City, and she said she had seen
some very find names on the list. Mayor Clark said the
statement referred to member,¢of the Referendum Committee.
Councilman McPherson moved that the Council accept
the recommendation of the City Attorney and agree that the
referendum applies to legislative actions, that the resolution
was an administrative act and, therefore, not subject to
referendum and the Council could not set an election.
Motion was seconded by Councilman Aston and carried by the
following vote:
AYES: Aston; Benson; Brush; McPherson; Clark
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
VII. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - None
VIII REPORTS & REMARKS
A. City Manager - None
B. City Attorney - None
C. Mayor & City Council
Councilman McPherson said he would urge anyone that
has any doubts or changes to the General Plan that they
proceed through the General Plan amendment to make the changes.
There will soon be regular application forms to amend the
General Plan.
Councilwoman Benson said that whether she was for
or against the Referendum Committee she hoped people would
come out to Zoning Ordinance meetings.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
Meeting was adjourned at 8:00 P.M.
ary'Pat er, Deputy City Clerk
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