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ADJOURNED CITY COUNCIL MEETING
THURSDAY, JUNE 5, 1980
GEORGE WASHINGTON SCHOOL
I. CALL TO ORDER
Due to a delay in setting up the audio system, Mayor Wilson called
the Adjourned Meeting of the Palm Desert City Council to order at 7:20 p.m.
on Thursday, June 5, 1980, in the Multi -Purpose Room of George Washington
School.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - Mayor Pro-Tempore James E. McPherson
III. INVOCATION - Councilman Alexis D. Newbrander
IV. ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Pro-Tem James E. McPherson
Councilman Alexis D. Newbrander
Councilman Romeo S. Puluqi
Coulcilman Walter H. Snyder
Mayor S. Roy Wilson
Also Present:
Martin J. Bouman, City Manager
David J. Erwin, City Attorney
Paul A. Williams, Director of Environmental Services
L. Clyde Beebe, Director of Public Works
Paul E. Byers, Director of Finance
V. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION NO. 80-58 - A RESOLUTION
OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM DESERT, CALIFORNIA,
SETTING FORTH A FUNDING AND TIMING PROGRAM TO MEET THE REQUIRED
CONDITIONS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A REGIONAL SHOPPING CENTER AS
PROVIDED IN RESOLUTIONS 79-124 AND 79-125 (Continued from the
Regular City Council Meeting of May 8, 1980, and Set for Public
Hearing).
Mayor Wilson stated that the Palm Desert Town Center was approved
by the City Council in October, 1979, conditional on a certain
number of off -site improvements to be made by the City through a
grant and loan from the Federal Government. The City is no longer
funding these off -site improvements. The purpose of this Hearing
is to review the proposed alternative funding methods and to also
seek public input relative to the Center. He called on Mr. Bouman
for the Staff report.
Mr. Bouman stated that on October 25, 1979, the Council had
adopted Resolution No. 79-125 which announced findings and
certified a final EIR for the Palm Desert Town Center. On
that same day, the Council adopted Resolution No. 79-125
which made a finding and issued a statement of overriding
conditions pursuant to CEQA and approved a development plan
for a regional shopping center, a Conditional Use Permit for
a parking lot and fire station and preliminary design review.
In Resolution 79-125, there were a series of conditions 'placed
upon both the applicant and the City involving the Federal
UDAG Grant. Since the UDAG Grant has been withdrawn by the
County of Riverside, the City was placed in a position of
seeking alternative funding and realigning certain responsi-
bilities.
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V. PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
A. RESOLUTION NO. 80-58 (Continued)
Mr. Bouman reviewed Exhibit "A" of proposed Resolution No.
80-58 with the Council and audience. He itemized the
responsibilities of the applicant which totaled $5,345,000,
the responsibilities of the Redevelopment Agency which totaled
$1,500,000, the responsibilities of the City or Army Corps of
Engineers which total $3,220,000, and the responsibilities of
future developers which totaled $450,000. Mr. Bouman then
called on Mr. Paul Williams, Director of Environmental Services,
who reviewed the sequence of events of the property starting in
1975 when a K-Mart was proposed through the present shopping
center.
Mayor Wilson asked for an explanation of how much of the UDGA
Grant was a grant and how much of it was a loan. Mr. Bouman
responded that the total amount of the Grant was about $7 Million
and of that amount, about $3 Million was to be repaid as a loan.
That was for the purpose of constructing low to middle income
housing, and that loan would have required repayment to the
County of Riverside from tax increment monies raised from the
Center. It was estimated that repayment would have required
about 5 years.
Mayor Wilson declared the Public Hearing open and advised the
audience that Council would ask the applicant for his presentation
and then receive 45 minutes of input in FAVOR of the request with
45 minutes then in OPPOSITION to the request. This procedure would
alternate until everyone had spoken who so desired to do so.
MR. ERNEST HAHN addressed the Council and first explained that
the recent merger his company had entered into would have no
effect on the proposed center. He pledged that they would
continue with the same moral and physical commitment to the
residents and the City as before. He stated that the Hahn
Company is committed to top rate stores who will also be
contributing their share to the development of the Center.
He stressed the importance of department stores in the area
in order to attract the shoppers to our area. This type of
merchandising does not exist and would enhance the attractive-
ness of El Paseo and other local merchants. They would also
service the families in the area with more moderate priced
merchandise. He concluded by stating that they have been
delayed 7 months and need to start late in the fall or early
spring.
Councilman Puluqi questioned the impact of the satelite stores on
the already existing stores in the area. Mr. Hahn responded that
per a census taken two weeks prior to the meeting, 971,000 sq. ft.
of retail now exists on El Paseo. Some are occupied; some are
incomplete. The regional shopping center would include two stores
offering full spectrum merchandise, two better dress stores as com-
pared to the 37 already located in Palm Desert, and then stores
that are franchised such as Judy's, the Wet Seal, etc. He stated
that El Paseo is not a Rodeo Drive and that their stores would com-
pliment those existing on El Paseo now.
Mayor Wilson asked Mr. Bouman to report on the correspondence
received relative to this issue.
Mr. Bouman reported the following correspondence:
- 2 letters of opposition from businesses.
- 1 letter of opposition from an individual.
- 77 letters in support from businesses.
- 19 letters of support from individuals.
- 122 names on a Petition of Support.
- Statement of support from the Planning Commission.
- Letter of support from the Palm Desert Property Owners
Association
- Letter of comment from the California Rural Legal Assistance.
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V. PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
A. RESOLUTION NO. 80-58 (Continued)
Mayor Wilson called for input in FAVOR of the project, and the
following individuals spoke:
Mr. William Tennison, President of the Palm Desert Property
Owners Association, 73-833 El Paseo, Palm Desert, on behalf
of his board of directors and representing over 800 residents
in the City.
Mr. Bill Plenk, Chapman College, 43-220 Tennessee Avenue, Palm
Desert.
Mrs. Florence Hafer, 74-319 De Anza Way, Palm Desert.
Mr. George Williams, Rural Legal Assistance, 1030 6th Street,
Coachella, California, stating that this would bring new
jobs and especially training for the youth in our area.
Mrs. Peg Cash, 73-338 Highway 111, Palm Desert
Mrs. Phyllis Jackson, 45-151 San Luis Rey, Palm Desert
Mr. Don McNeilly, Cove Community Information Center, 74-004
Highway 111, Palm Desert, on behalf on many local charitable
organizations in the area.
Mrs. Anne Carpenter, 44-522 San Jose, Palm Desert, California
Mr. Jim Walsh, 44-431 San Pascual, Palm Desert, as past presi-
dent of the Chamber of Commerce and as a resident.
- Mr. Clifford Larson, 74-150 Velardo Road, Palm Desert.
- Mr. Harold Housley, 79-508 Bermuda Dunes Drive, Bermuda Dunes,
on behalf of the Family YMCA.
- Mrs. Lois Haskell, 72-825 Willow Street, Palm Desert.
- Mr. Marvin Eisen, 73-437 Tamarisk Street, Palm Desert.
Mayor Wilson advised that the 45 minute time limit had expired and
invited input in OPPOSITION to the request.
Mr. James McLaughlin, 73-896 El Paseo, Palm Desert, stated that
he spoke for himself and not all of the merchants on El Paseo
as had been erroneously reported in some the of newspapers.
He read an editorial from that evening's Desert Sun which
stated that more information should be sought be sought before
the center was approved. He advised that he and some of the
other merchants had employed a consultant to study the feasi-
bility of the center and the impact it would have on existing
business, and this consultant would present his findings at this
hearing. He also opposed the center in that it would bring heavy
traffic, air pollution, and other adverse effects to the community.
Mr. Peter M. Mlynaryk, Harold Davidson & Associates, Inc.
gave a lengthy presentation of his research on the impact of
the Hahn Center. In his estimation, the impact of the center
was undefined at this point in his study in that it would take
more time. He felt that the unmet retail sales in the Coachella
Valley could be satisfied by:
- construction of a regional shopping center.
- new strip stores.
- or filling existing vacant retail space.
However, he pointed out that the most appropriate combination
for meeting this need is unknown at this time and could not be
established without further study. =
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V. PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
A. RESOLUTION NO. 80-58 (Continued)
The following other individuals spoke against the request:
Mr. Hank Stokes, 73-750 El Paseo, Palm Desert.
Mr. Boyd Cowden, El Paseo, Palm Desert.
Mr. Chuck Paul, Tri-Cities Business Association, 73-460
Highway 111, Palm Desert, requesting a 90-day continuance
for further study.
Mr. Larry Elder, 74-075 Setting Sun Trail, Palm Desert.
Mayor Wilson called a 10 minute recess at 9:50 p.m. He reconvened
the meeting at 10:00 p.m. and asked for further input in FAVOR of
the request. The following individuals spoke:
- Mr. Roland Sweet, 73-535 Pinyon, Palm Desert.
- Mrs. Peg Cash, 73-381 Highway 111, Palm Desert
- Mr. Ron Arslin, May Company representative, stating that
his firm would never have committed to moving into this
center without an extensive market survey and a completed
one.
- Mrs. Lauren D. Wilcox, 43-151 Buttonwood, Palm Desert.
- Mr. Ben C. Pickell, Jr., 74-814 Tampico Dr., Palm Desert.
- Mr. Bob McGuire, 44-099 Agua, Palm Desert, Ca.
Mayor Wilson asked for further OPPOSITION to the request, and the
following was offered:
- Mr. Roger Bailey, 74-034 San Marino, Palm Desert.
- Mr. Frederick Thon, speaking not necessarily against the
center but addressing the concern they would keep their
promises after the merger.
- Mrs. Patty Cowden, 73-640 El Paseo, Palm Desert.
With no further input being offered, Mayor Wilson declared the
Public Hearing closed.
Councilman Puluqi commended Mr. Hahn for a tremendous job. However,
he was concerned in that he felt that the people would have to spend
more to keep up the center than it would bring in. He also expressed
concern about the expenditure for the fire station and the needed
street improvements as well as the 850 employees the center would
bring in without low cost housing being provided. He concluded by
stating that the matter should be presented to the voters as a
referendum, and he would not take the responsibility for the adverse
effects of this project.
Councilman Snyder stated that his background was in business, and
free enterprise was primary. He stated that he was very familiar
with the project as he had been the Chairman of the Planning Com-
mission when it was first reviewed.. He stated that he had reviewed
every aspect of the project from every standpoint and had even
visited other projects. He had talked to as many people in the
City as possible to obtain their views. He said that one of the
responsibilities of his accepting his position on the Council was
to attempt to be responsive to the people. He had met with the
El Paseo merchants and felt that many of the things they said
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V. PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
A. RESOLUTION NO. 80-58 (Continued)
were true, just as those that Mr. Hahn said were true. It
is a most difficult decision to make. It will shape where
we are going. However, something is going to go in that area.
It is not feasible that a choice piece of property like this is
going to stand vacant. We cannot stop people from building on
their own property. He concluded by stating that he had
searched his soul and he could not justify holding up this
project any further.
Mayor Pro-Tem McPherson stated that he had been part of this
since the very beginning, and he had sat through all of the
hearings. He stated that Mr. Stokes' comment about the City's
subsidizing the center concerned him in that the City is not
giving Mr. Hahn anything. He pointed out that Mr. Cowden had
talked about the quality of life here, but we all moved here
because it was a nice place to live. However, we are no
longer a little town of 7,000 people. We are going to con-
tinue to grow. We talk about this center over and over again,
but the issue before the Council at this meeting is who pays
for the $10 Million of improvements. The center has been
approved. He stated that he would vote yes.
Councilman Newbrander stated that on October 25th, when the
Council had approved the project, she had said she loved the
small town - - it was beautiful. But the building and expan-
sion came, and it was inevitable, and we are going to have
more of it. We are right at the crossroad here, right in the
middle of the desert. We have a chance to have a good center,
and this is the time to make it.
Mayor Wilson stated that the City is not subsidizing this
center. It is no different than the drainage project being
constructed presently by the Agency or the $1/2 Million
being invested in parking lot improvements on El Paseo by
the Agency. Mr. Hahn is putting in all the drainage and
parking. If you are going to talk subsidy, it is the other
way around. He pointed out that there had been a total of
six studies on the center, one of which was completed on
May 27th as a result of the City of Indio's concern of the
economic impact of the center in the Valley. That report
is as updated as you can get. The study showed that some
where in the Valley a center is going to be built. Just one
Where it goes is really up to this Council. There are
others approved at Bob Hope and Ramon. He stated that he
had lived in two communities where shopping centers did
not build in the downtown area, and the downtown died and
the satelite commercial around it moved out to where the
centers were. The Council has to look at it from regional'
impact and realize the fact that a center will be built.
He stated that other cities such as Glendale, Torrance and'
Long Beach had been checked where centers had been built.
The downtown area in Glendale was helped in that the center
was built nearby. In Torrance and Long Beach the downtown areas
were hurt as the centers were built away from them. He felt that
if the City delayed this center and allowed another to get in,
there would be a decline in the economic conditions in the
existing businesses in our City. Right now we have satelite
shops to set off the shopping center, and he believed that
this decision was very important'. Enough studies had been
done. With reference to Councilman Puluqi's suggestion for
a referendum, he pointed out that Palm Desert is the only
City in this State that has had a referendum on their General
Plan and one of those issues was this property and its zoning.
The people voted in favor of it 3-1.
Councilman Newbrander moved and Mayor Pro-Tem McPherson seconded to
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V.
PUBLIC HEARINGS (Continued)
A. RESOLUTION NO. 80-58 (Continued)
waive further reading and adopt Resolution No. 80-58. Motion carried
on the following vote:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
McPherson, Newbrander, Snyder and Wilson
None
None
Puluqi
VI. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
VII.
VIII.
None
REPORTS AND REMARKS
A. CITY MANAGER
None
B. CITY ATTORNEY
None
C. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
None
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Pro-Tem McPherson moved and Mayor Wilson seconded to
the meeting. Motion carried unanimously. Mayor Wilson adjourned
meeting at 10:55 p.m.
ATTEST:
SHEILA R. GILL'IGAN, CI7' CLERK
CITY OF PALM DESERT, LeALIFORNIA
S . JROY WII�SON, MAYOR
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adjourn
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