HomeMy WebLinkAbout1985-06-13MINUTES
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
THURSDAY, JUNE 13, 1985
CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBERS
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I. CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Snyder convened the meeting at 7:00 p.m.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - Mayor Pro-Tempore Richard S. Kelly
III. INVOCATION - Councilmember Phyllis Jackson
IV. ROLL CALL
Present:
Councilmember Jean M. Benson
Councilmember Phyllis Jackson
Mayor Pro-Tempore Richard S. Kelly
Councilman S. Roy Wilson
Mayor Walter H. Snyder
Also Present:
Bruce A. Altman, City Manager
Carlos L. Ortega, Assistant City Manager
David J. Erwin, City Attorney
Sheila R. Gilligan, City Clerk
Ramon A. Diaz, Director of Environmental Services
Gregg Holtz, Acting Director of Public Works
Paul Gibson, Accounting Supervisor
V. AWARDS, PRESENTATIONS, AND APPOINTMENTS
None
VI. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. MINUTES of the Regular City Council Meeting of May 23, 1985.
Rec: Approve as presented.
B. CLAIMS AND DEMANDS AGAINST THE CITY TREASURY - Demand
Nos. 85-112, 85-114, and 85-115.
Rec: Approve as presented.
C. APPLICATION FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE LICENSE by Circle K
Convenience Stores for 45-200 Portola Avenue, Palm Desert.
Rec: Receive and file.
D. APPLICATION FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE LICENSE by Circle K
Convenience Stores for 44-775 San Pablo, Palm Desert.
Rec: Receive and file.
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E. RESOLUTION NO. 85-42 - A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF PALM DESERT, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING
RESOLUTION NO. 84-99 BY CHANGING THE PROVISION OF
EXECUTIVE PHYSICALS FROM BIENNIAL TO ANNUAL.
Rec: Waive further reading and adopt.
F. REPORT FROM RIVERSIDE COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT for
the Month of April, 1985.
Rec: Receive and file.
G. REQUEST FOR RATIFICATION OF CITY MANANGER APPROVAL of
Sports Complex Backstops in the Amount of $10,200.
Rec: By Minute Motion, ratify the action by approving the
expenditure.
H. REQUEST FOR APPROVAL of Agreement No. 00-044 with Palm Desert
Post to Provide Legal Advertising Services for the City of Palm Desert.
Rec: By Minute Motion, approve the agreement and amended rate
schedule and authorize the Mayor to execute same.
I. RESOLUTION NO. 85-43 - A RESOLUTION OF INTENTION OF THE
CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM DESERT, CALIFORNIA,
INITIATING PROCEEDINGS TO VACATE PORTIONS OF RIGHT-OF-
WAY KNOWN AS PALM DESERT DRIVE NORTH UNDER THE
PROVISIONS OF PART 3, DIVISION 9, OF THE STREETS AND
HIGHWAYS CODE, AND FIXING A TIME AND PLACE FOR HEARING
ALL PERSONS INTERESTED IN OR OBJECTING TO PROPOSED
VACATION.
Rec: Waive further reading and adopt.
J. RESOLUTION NO. 85-44 - A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF PALM DESERT, CALIFORNIA, ADOPTING A
POLICY FOR THE INVESTMENT OF CITY OF PALM DESERT FUNDS.
Rec: Waive further reading and adopt.
K. REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE
CONTRACT FOR COOK STREET AND COUNTRY CLUB DRIVE
MEDIANS.
Rec: By Minute Motion, authorize a one-year extension of the
contract for landscape maintenance on the Cook Street and
Country Club Drive medians.
Upon motion by Kelly, second by Jackson, the Consent Calendar was approved
as presented by unanimous vote of the Council.
VII. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - A
MR. MARK A. BEATTY, Portals, 83-741 Hopi Avenue, Indio, California 92201,
addressed Council and read a prepared statement relative to the City's
regulations of awnings on El Paseo. He stated that he and the appproximately
40 people he had contacted for letters of support felt that the City's current
restrictions were adequate. He had heard that the City Council was
considering restricting this type of structure and offered to serve on any
investigating com' nittee to lend his expertise. He concluded by urging Council
to take no action to reverse the precedence already set which allows awnings
in the commercial areas of the City and within the current prescribed
guidelines.
Councilman Wilson stated he too had heard that the City was planning to
revise these regulations but in checking with the Planning Department had
found no such program. He thought some erroneous information was being
disseminated and assured Mr. Beatty that if and when the City decided to make
such a review, it would contact h►gn for his expertise and opinion.
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MS. SUSAN MARTINO, 44-675 San Jacinto, Palm Desert, addressed Council
relative to concerns about increased traffic and speeds at which it traveled on
DeAnza Way. She requested speed bumps be installed. Staff was instructed to
work with the Police Department in resolving these concerns and problems.
VIQ. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. REQUEST FOR CONFIRMATION OF ANNUAL ASSESSMENTS WITHIN
LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING ASSESSMENT DISTRICT 1980-1 IN
FISCAL 1985-86 (Presidents' Plaza).
Mayor Snyder declared the Public Hearing open and asked for staff's report.
Mr. Altman reported that the staff memo outlined the provisions of the
district as well as the proposed tax levy. He recommended adoption of
the proposed resolution and offered to answer any Council questions.
Mayor Snyder invited testimony in FAVOR of the request, and none was
offered. He invited testimony in OPPOSITION to the request, and none was
offered. He declared the Public Hearing closed.
Upon motion by Wilson, second by Kelly, Resolution No. 85-45 was adopted by
unanimous vote of the Council.
B. REQUEST FOR CONFIRMATION OF ANNUAL ASSESSMENTS WITHIN
LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING ASSESSMENT DISTRICT NO. 2 IN
FISCAL 1985-86 (Canyon Cove - Tract 11636-1).
Mayor Snyder declared the Public Hearing open and asked for staff's report.
Mr. Altman reported that a petition had been received from the
residents of Canyon Cove specifically asking for what staff was
recommending -- no tax levy. He recommended adoption of the
proposed resolution.
Mayor Snyder invited testimony in FAVOR of the request, and none was
offered. He invited testimony in OPPOSITION to the request, and none was
offered. He declared the Public Hearing closed.
Councilman Kelly moved to, by Minute Motion, levy no assessments for fiscal
year 1985-86 and declare the annual public hearing closed. Councilmember Jackson
seconded the motion. Motion carried by unanimous vote of the Council.
C. REQUEST FOR CONFIRMATION OF ANNUAL ASSESSMENTS WITHIN
LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING ASSESSMENT DISTRICT NO. 4 IN
FISCAL 1985-86 (Tract No. 8237 - Parkview Estates).
Mayor Snyder declared the Public Hearing open and asked for staff's report.
Mr. Altman reported that the staff memo outlined the provisions of the
district as well as set forth the appropriate assessment. He
recommended adoption of the proposed resolution and offered to answer
any Council questions.
Mayor Snyder invited testimony in FAVOR of the request, and none was
offered. He invited testimony in OPPOSITION to the request, and none was
offered. He declared the Public Hearing closed.
Upon motion by Jackson, second by Benson, Resolution No. 85-46 was adopted
by unanimous vote of the Council.
D. REQUEST FOR CONFIRMATION OF ANNUAL ASSESSMENTS WITHIN
LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING ASSESSMENT DISTRICT NO. 81-3 IN
FISCAL 1985-86 (Tract Nos. 12181-1 6c 12181-2 - The Vineyards).
Mayor Snyder declared the Public Hearing open and asked for staff's report.
Mr. Altman recommended adoption of the proposed resolution pursuant
to receiving public testimony.
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Mayor Snyder invited testimony in FAVOR of the request, and none was
offered. He invited testimony in OPPOSITION to the request, and none was
offered. He declared the Public Hearing closed.
Upon motion by Jackson, second by Wilson, Resolution No. 85-47 was adopted
by unanimous vote of the Council.
E. REQUEST FOR CONFIRMATION OF ANNUAL ASSESSMENTS WITHIN
LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING ASSESSMENT DISTRICT NO. 5 IN
FISCAL 1985-86 (Cook Street/Country Club Drive Median Assessment
District).
Mayor Snyder decla•
red the Public Hearing open and asked for staff's report.
Mr. Altman stated that the staff report and resolution set forth the
provisions of the district as well as justification for the assessment and
levy. He recommended adoption of the resolution pursuant to receiving
public testimony.
Mayor Snyder invited testimony in FAVOR of the request, and none was
offered. He invited testimony in OPPOSITION to the request, and none was
offered. He declared the Public Hearing closed.
Upon motion by Kelly, second by Benson, Resolution No. 85-48 was adopted by
unanimous vote of the Council.
F. REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATION OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT
PURSUANT TO MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER 25.37 SPECIFYING
TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF AN EIGHT
UNIT APARTMENT PROJECT CONTAINING TWO UNITS
AFFORDABLE TO MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS LOCATED ON
THE NORTH SIDE OF SANTA ROSA WAY, 300 FEET WEST OF SAN
PASCUAL. (Continued from the Meeting of February 28, 1985.)
Mayor Snyder declared the Public Hearing open and asked for staff's report.
Mr. Altman reported that the applicant desired a continuance for this
item until such time as the Palma Village Specific Plan had been
reviewed and implemented inasmuch as it would have an affect on his
development plans.
Upon motion by Wilson, second by Jackson, the item was continued to the
meeting of August 8, 1985, by unanimous vote of the Council.
G. CONSIDERATION OF THE PALMA VILLAGE SPECIFIC PLAN AND
ASSOCIATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACT.
(Note: A verbatim transcript of this hearing was prepared at the request of
staff and is attached hereto as Exhibit "A" of the Minutes.)
Mayor Snyder declared the Public Hearing open and asked for staff's report.
Phil Drell, Associate Planner, reviewed the plan and all of its provisions
(copy on file and of record in the City Clerk's office).
Mayor Snyder invited testimony in FAVOR of or in OPPOSITION to the
proposed plan, and the following was offered:
MR. ROMEO PULUQI, 72-850 Tamarisk Street, favored the plan as a
way of upgrading an older neighborhood and improving the quality of
the north side of Highway 111.
MS. VERONA STEWART, 44-476 San Rafael, favored the plan as a
measure to upgrade a deteriorating neighborhood.
MR. STANLEY SOPHER, 44-695 San Antonio Circle, favored the plan in
its entirety, especially as it related to provisions for senior housing, and
additionally requested the closure of San Gorgonio Way as it is
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currently being used as an east -west access which deteriorated the
neighborhood atmosphere.
MS. HELEN BREEDING, owner of Lots 42, 43, and 44 at the corner of
Fairhaven Drive and Fred Waring Drive, favored the plan but requested
consideration of rezoning her property to allow professional office
building development. She felt it would be more compatible with the
existing development and zoning. Additionally, she requested
consideration of the three lots being consolidated into one lot.
MR. BILL ROSSWORN, 41-530 Woodhaven Drive, addressed Council as
a property owner on San Pablo Avenue, Catalina Way, and Santa Rosa
Way. He favored the plan as a real estate developer and commended
staff for the excellent preparation it had given it.
MR. CHARLES MILLER, Little Bend Trail, spoke as a property owner in
the area covered by the plan and expressed his favor of its provisions.
He expressed concern over the lack of a sewer system in the area and
asked that it be given a high priority.
MR. GEORGE KRYDER, Sonora Drive, spoke in favor of the plan and in
opposition to Ms. Breeding's request for office professional zoning in his
neighborhood as he felt it was a "single-family area." He too stressed
necessity for a sewer system in the area.
MR. JACK DAYTON, 74-280 Alessandro, spoke in favor of the plan but
against too much increased density on the north side as he did not
believe it would enhance the area. He also expressed concern as to
what will happen to the north side when the large curb and gutter
assessment district is installed on the south side.
MR. KIGER BARTON, 44-519 San Anselmo, spoke in favor of the plan
but against increased high density projects as he felt they would lower
the standard of living by introducing negative elements such as more
crime. He also requested Council consider placing a limit on the
number of people allowed to live in a dwelling unit.
MR. TERRAN ELAM, Goleta Street, spoke in favor of the plan but
against the proposed high density on Goleta as he felt it would increase
traffic in an area with too much already.
MS. HELEN BREEDING again addressed the Council in favor of an
office professional zoning for her property as she felt it was in
accordance with a plan she had heard about that would make Fred
Waring Drive comparable to Tahquitz-McCallum Way in Palm Springs.
Mayor Snyder declared the Public Hearing closed and asked for Council
comments.
Councilmember Benson stated her concern about the high density
residential proposed for Monterey Avenue adjacent to the single-family
homes. She felt the City had gone to great expense to improve
Monterey as a main corridor into the City which would only be
improved by the addition of the Cultural Center. To line the street
with high -density projects in her estimation would not serve to be an
improvement as would an office professional designation.
Councilman Wilson commended staff and the Planning Commission for
much hard work in identifying ways to upgrade this area. He noted two
overall concerns: one dealing with the quite extensive development of
two-story units throughout the area, particularly in the high density
areas and some of the office professional areas. The second was the
overall concept of the high -density residential throughout. He felt
those two items would have a great impact on the entire neighborhood,
one which would not necessarily be a positive impact. He went on to
say that it would forever and irreversibly change the character of the
entire north side, and he felt Council should be extremely careful
before implementing something of this impact. He questioned the need
to have some of the senior overlay units multiple story. He felt
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changing some of the sizes of units and carport requirements would
allow lower density, garden type developments.
Councilmember Jackson commended staff and the people who
participated in the preparation of the plan for accomplishing a
horrendous task. She favored multiple story units as it allowed for
more open space. She felt overall height was more of a concern than
story limitation. She felt Council had a definite obligation to produce
more housing for senior citizens in this area where their activity center
is located and at prices they can afford. She noted she had owned
property in this area for many, many years and favored the plan as a
way of upgrading an area that needed it.
Councilman Kelly stated that the plan was very well done and while
there were areas in which he shared concern, he felt it was an overall
general plan for the area and an excellent plan. He stated his support
of the senior citizen development around the Senior Center and the
proposed office professional designations.
Mayor Snyder stated that Council did indeed have some serious
considerations. He said that most who lived here came to get away
from high density and crowding, and he did not want to see that happen
in Palm Desert. However, he recognized the need for a way to improve
the area in the best manner possible. No plan would meet the approval
of all. He said he had joined Councilmembers Wilson and Benson in
their fight to retain open space and less density, and he pledged to
continue to do that. However, the proposed plan was just that -- a plan.
He supported its adoption and noted it could be modified to mitigate
concerns as it was implemented.
Councilmember Jackson moved to waive further reading and adopt Resolution
No. 85-49 with direction to staff to begin implementation of the plan's recommendations.
Councilman Kelly seconded the motion. Motion carried by a 3-2 vote with Councilman
Wilson and Councilmember Benson voting NO for reasons stated.
Mr. Diaz noted for the record a point of clarification. He stated that the plan
was labeled "General Plan Amendment No. 2". He stated that the City is
limited to four General Plan amendments per year and this labeling was for
labeling purposes only and does not constitute one of the City's General Plan
amendments. He stated this had been discussed and concurred with by the
City Attorney.
H. CONSIDERATION OF A PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION
APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A 1,594
SQUARE FOOT EXPANSION TO AN EXISTING 2,546 SQUARE FOOT
RESTAURANT LOCATED IN EL PASEO VILLAGE ON THE SOUTH
SIDE OF EL PASEO BETWEEN SAN PABLO AVENUE AND LUPINE
LANE.
Mayor Snyder declared the Public Hearing open and asked for staff's report.
Mr. Diaz reported that when the Council called the item up for
consideration, the parking modification total for the center was 17
spaces. Since the call up, the owner of the center had indicated a
willingness to abandon a previously approved Conditional Use Permit
(15-83) which would have permitted a 2,500 sq. ft. restaurant on the
easterly side of the center. This abandonment reduced the modification
from 17 spaces to two spaces. He recommended that the City Council
reaffirm the Planning Commission approval subject to the City
receiving a letter from the property owner officially abandoning CUP
15-83.
Mayor Snyder invited testimony in FAVOR of the request, and the following
was offered:
COUNT VON HUELLESSEM, El Paseo Merchant, supported the request
noting restaurants were good for retail merchants.
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MR. RICHARD ERWOOD, 73-729 Desert Vista, spoke as Vice Chairman
of the Planning Commission, explaining the Commission's decision as
well as its justification for approving the request.
MR. JIM JOHNSON, adjacent El Paseo merchant, favored the expansion
of the restaurant and the parking variance.
MR. GEORGE BURN, Cameron's, stated Cedar Creek Inn was an asset
to the entire community and especially the retail community adjacent to
it.
Mayor Snyder invited testimony in OPPOSITION to the request, and none was
offered. He declared the Public Hearing closed.
Upon motion by Jackson, second by Wilson, Resolution No. 85-50, approving
the request, was adopted by unanimous vote of the Council.
I. CONSIDERATION OF A PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION
APPROVING AN AMENDMENT TO CUP 03-82 TO PERMIT A 1,500
SQUARE FOOT EXPANSION TO THE FORMER TULLIO'S
RESTAURANT AND DELETE A NET 11 PARKING SPACES. MARTIN
AXIS, INC., APPLICANT.
Mayor Snyder declared the Public Hearing open and asked for staff's report.
Mr. Diaz reported that the request had been approved by the Planning
Commission at its meeting of May 7,1985. He noted that the
Commission felt that the data presented by the applicant warranted the
granting of the Conditional Use Permit subject to the applicant at a
future date becoming part of a parking assessment district if one was
established. He stated staff's position in recommending denial because
the proposed expansion would delete 11 existing parking spaces. He
noted that the Council did not have a resolution before and should
direct staff, when either approving or denying the request, to bring an
appropriate resolution to the next meeting for adoption.
Councilmember Jackson noted an error in the wording of the Planning
Commission resolution.
Mayor Snyder invited testimony in FAVOR of the request, and the following
was offered.
MR. LYMAN MARTIN, 15C Sandpiper, Palm Desert, addressed Council
as the applicant. He presented Council with a study which had been
done over a 65-day period and one which he felt supported his position
that the parking lot did not have a deficiency in parking spaces nor
would it if the expansion were approved.
MR. RICHARD ERWOOD, 73-729 Desert Vista, addressed Council as
Vice Chairman of the Planning Commission. He stated the
Commission's position and justifiction for its approval of the request.
He said the main problem the Commission dealt with was the fact that
no specific spaces are allocated to individual businesses in this parking
lot; parking is determined based on square footage of the building. He
said the Commission felt the applicant's data substantiated the fact
that adequate parking was and would continue to be available with
approval of the request. He concluded by stating that the 2000
Committee had recommended the City encourage this type of business.
MR. JACK DAYTON, 74-280 Alessandro, spoke in favor of the request.
Mayor Snyder invited testimony in OPPOSITION to the request, and none was
offered. He declared the Public Hearing closed.
Councilmember Jackson stated that 58 of the merchants had indicated
support of the request, and she did not know why Council was even
questioning the Planning Commission decision.
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Mayor Snyder stated he had called the matter before the Council
because of an on -going concern he had that we would run out of
commercial parking and be faced with a problem identical to that which
Palm Springs is currently facing. He said people don't go to Palm
Springs to shop because there is no parking. He said he had made a point
of stopping in this parking lot on different days and at different times
of the day, and the lot was quite often full. He stated that if the City
doesn't live with its regulations, great problems will be created down
the road. He felt that a variance of 39 spaces was far too big to
overlook. He noted that he had received a letter recently from the
Chamber of Commerce wherein they stated a strong concern over
future parking problems and requested the City to study the problem
carefully and come up with solutions now to prevent a future problem.
Councilman Kelly stated he was concerned over a shortage of 39
spaces. He said that Tullio's had been approved because there was
extra parking.
Councilman Kelly moved to direct staff to prepare a resolution of denial for
adoption at the next Council meeting. Councilmember Benson seconded the motion.
Motion carried by a 4-1 vote with Councilmember Jackson voting NO for reasons stated.
J. CONSIDERATION OF AN AMENDMENT TO MUNICIPAL CODE
CHAPTER 25.68 CONCERNING REGULATION OF SIGNS.
Mayor Snyder declared the Public Hearing open and asked for staff's report.
Mr. Diaz reported that in reviewing amendments to the ordinance, the
Planning Commisison had discussed political signs and regulations
within our ordinance that would be constitutionally legal, internally
illuminated signs, criteria under which freestanding signs are reviewed
by the Architectural Commission, and appropriateness of limiting
freestanding signs to one per street frontage in the regional commercial
zone.
Mr. Diaz noted that Mr. Ernest Hahn had met with Council in Study
Session with regard to a free standing sign in the Town Center that
would allow identification of the businesses open at night. The existing
regulations did not provide for such a sign, and Mr. Hahn had stressed
the need because current businesses in the center now open in the
evening had experienced a severe drop in activity primarily because no
one knew they were open at night. Mr. Diaz recommended that if
Council chose to include provisions for such a sign that the following
wording be added to Section 25.68.390 of the proposed ordinance:
"In the case, of centers in the regional commercial zone having over
700,000 square feet of gross leasable retail floor area, said center
identification signs may contain the name of tenants and/or activities
conducted with the center which operate during evening hours."
Mayor Snyder invited testimony either in FAVOR of or in OPPOSITION to the
request, and none was offered. He declared the Public Hearing closed.
Upon motion by Jackson, second by Benson, Ordinance No. 422, amended to
include the wording set forth by Mr. Diaz, was passed to second reading by unanimous
vote of the Council.
K. CONSIDERATION OF A NEGATIVE DECLARATION OF
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT TO
CHANGE THE LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM ' CORE AREA
COMMERCIAL AND RELATED USES TO MEDIUM DENSITY
RESIDENTIAL (5-7 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE) FOR 12.5 ACRES
OF LAND BOUNDED BY THE PALM VALLEY STORM CHANNEL, EL
PASEO, PAINTERS PATH, AND HIGHWAY 111.
Mayor Snyder declared the Public Hearing open and asked for staff's report.
Mr. Diaz explained that Council had previously denied a request for a
zone change on this property. The ordinance before the Council would
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place the zoning in conformance with the General Plan by amending the
General Plan and its land use designation which would be medium
density residential, 5-7 units to the acre.
Mayor Snyder invited testimony either in FAVOR of or in OPPOSITION to the
request, and none was offered. He declared the Public Hearing closed.
Upon motion by Benson, second by Wilson, Resolution No. 85-51 was adopted
by unanimous vote of the Council.
IX.
X.
RESOLUTIONS
None
ORDINANCES
For Introduction:
A. ORDINANCE NO. 426 - AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF PALM DESERT, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING
ORDINANCE NO. 392 AS IT RELATES TO THE ELECTION OF
OFFICERS FOR THE EL PASEO PARKING AND IMPROVEMENT
AREA.
Mr. Altman explained that the Council had established this district last
summer by ordinance. However, the ordinance set terms of officers for
July each year which was felt by members of the Area's Board to be
less desirable than a January commencement. The ordinance before
Council would amend the term of office by making them effective
January 1 of each year.
Upon motion by Wilson, second by Jackson, Ordinance No. 426 was passed to
second reading by unanimous vote of the Council.
For Adoption:
None
XI. CONSENT ITEMS HELD OVER
None
XII. NEW BUSINESS
A. CONSIDERATION OF VARIOUS LEGISLATIVE ACTIONS FOR
ASSESSMENT DISTRICT 83-1 AND PRESENTATION OF ENGINEER'S
REPORT AND RESOLUTION SETTING PUBLIC HEARING.
Mr. Altman reported that both Mackenzie Brown, legal counsel for the
district, and Joe Kicak, engineer for the district, had met with Council
in Study Session for the purpose of thoroughly reviewing the procedure
before Council tonight and to answer questions.
Mr. Brown reviewed the proposed resolutions as well as what each
would accomplish in the assessment district process.
Mr. Barry McClellan described the boundaries of the proposed district.
He stated the debt limit report set forth the estimated cost of
improvements at $6.9 million and indicated a ratio of bond value of 16.5
to 1. He reviewed necessary right-of-way acquisition in the district.
He concluded by noting that the Engineer's Report had been filed in a
timely manner with the City Clerk and that Council had received a
copy of it.
Councilman Kelly asked why handicapped slots had to be placed in some
driveways such as on Fairway Drive. He said he didn't think sidewalks
would ever be installed on that street, or others for that matter, and
that these slots were then an unnecessary expense. Staff was directed
to investigate whether or not the law mandated such installations.
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Councilman Kelly moved to, by Minute Motion, adopt the following:
1. Resolution No. 85-52, making appointments.
2. Resolution No. 85-53, adopting proposed boundary map.
3. Resolution No. 85-54, covering preliminary determination.
4. Resolution No. 85-55, approving "Report" and setting public hearing.
5. Resolution No. 85-56, declaring intention to order the construction of
certain improvements, together with appurtenances.
6. Resolution No. 85-57, passing on "Report" and setting public hearing.
7. Resolution No. 85-58, referencing wage scale and calling for bids.
8. Resolution No. 85-59, authorizing sale of bonds.
9. Resolution No. 85-60, setting hearing on eminent domain proceedings.
Councilmember Benson seconded the motion. Motion carried by unanimous
vote of the Council.
XIII. CONTINUED BUSINESS
N one
XIV. OLD BUSINESS
A. CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST BY COACHELLA VALLEY
RECREATION AND PARK DISTRICT FOR PLAYGROUND
EQUIPMENT (follow-up report from meeting of May 9, 1985).
Mr. Altman reported that staff was working with the C.V. Recreation &
Park District and that this item was still pending.
Upon motion by Wilson, second by Kelly, the item was tabled by unanimous
vote of the Council.
XV. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - B
None
XVI. REPORTS AND REMARKS
A. CITY MANAGER
1. INSURANCE WAIVER
Mr. Altman referred to a written recommendation from the City
Attorney to authorize signing of a waiver required by our insurance
company dealing with city employees who might issue citations. It
was the Attorney's opinion that it did not apply to us inasmuch as
the Sheriff's Department has the authority to do this and is insured
accordingly.
Councilman Wilson moved to authorize the Mayor to sign the required waiver,
and Councilmember Benson seconded the motion. Motion carried by unanimous vote of
the Council.
2. RESOLUTION NO. 85-61 - A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM DESERT, CALIFORNIA,
SUPPORTING THE PASSAGE OF ASSEMBLY BILL 1868 (AIR
RESOURCES BOARD MEMBERSHIP).
Mr. Altman reported that the City had received a letter from the
South Coast Air Quality Management District requesting support of
this bill so that our interests will be better represented.
Councilman Wilson moved to direct staff to prepare a resolution of support of
AB 1868 as outlined in the Air Quality Management District's letter of June 4th and that
the Mayor be authorized to sign said resolution. Councilman Kelly seconded the motion.
Motion carried by unanimous vote of the Council.
B. CITY ATTORNEY
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C. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
Mayor Snyder asked that everyone note the future meetings listed on
the agenda.
XVII. ADJOURNMENT
Councilmember Jackson moved to adjourn to Closed Session in accordance
with Section 54956.8 of the Government Code for the purpose of discussing negotiations
for the purchase of all or a portion of the land immediately adjacent to the Civic Center,
said property owned by M. B. Johnson, said Closed session to be held immediately
following adjournment of the Redevelopment Agency meeting. Councilman Kelly
seconded the motion. Motion carried by unanimous vote and Mayor Snyder adjourned to
Closed Session at 9:55 p.m.
Mayor Snyder reconvened the meeting at 10:22 p.m. and immediately
adjourned announcing no action taken in Closed Session.
ATTEST:
SHEILA R. G1U IGAN, CIT�CLERK
CITY OF PALM DESERT
WALTER H. SNYDER, MAVFOR
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EXHIBIT A
PALMA VILLAGE SPECIFIC PLAN
Walt Next matter under public hearings is consideration of the
Palma Village Specific Plan and associated negative declara-
tion of environmental impact. This is a public hearing. I
declare the public hearing open and ask for the report of
the City Manager.
Bruce Yes, Mr. Mayor and Councilmen, Mr. Diaz and his staff will
brief you. I believe they could probably give you a summary
briefing and respond to questions since they went through
quite a bit of detail in the Study Session - your choice.
Phil D. Before I begin, I would like to bring attention to some of
the citizens, residents, property owners in the Palma Village
area who spent a great deal of time and effort on this plan.
They were part of the Palma Village Specific Plan Citizens
Advisory Committee. They met fairly religiously on a weekly
basis through November, December, January and on and off
since then. They are Ella Manor, Frank Vassivo, Tim Palmer,
John Hancock, Michael Criste, Franz Tirrie, Rheo Lawman,
Verona Stewart, Rick Holden, Jim Sattley, Joyce McAllister,
Del Gagnon, Randy Lunsford. Again, they dealt in a very
thorough manner area by area to try to resolve some of these
issues. For those who are interested and have not yet picked
one up, the current draft of the Plan is available sitting on
that wall right there.
If you turn the page to page 14, there is a map showing the
Plan area and proposed land uses to follow along with the
various discussions. To begin with, the Plan was initiated
because of a desire to stimulate some improvements in this
particular area which represents the oldest subdivision in
the City. And the Committee first established what they
believed to be the basic criteria which would determine the
basic recommendations of the Plan. Those criteria were:
- That all new uses be compatible with existing and
future uses;
- That the Plan address the needs of the Palm Desert
community; and
- That the land uses allowed would be economically
feasible in the foreseeable future.
Basically, the.Plan recommendations are designed to promote
new, high quality development in long -vacant areas, unutilized
areas, and to preserve and enhance exisitng single family
zones. They also established a number of general policies
to, again, guide the Plan, which would apply to the whole
area, and those were:
1. That the City would take a more proactive role in the
promotion of public improvements in promoting high
quality infill private development and public works
consistent with the policy criteria.
2. General Policy II dealt with that commercial and multi-
family zones be of sufficient depth to allow efficient
site planning and the creation of buffer areas adjacent
to single family zones.
3. Policy III was to discourage nonlocal through traffic in
local neighborhoods.
4. Policy IV was to basically reaffirm the City's overall
architectural review process so that all new development
in this area will receive the same high standards of
architectural review and concern for senior preservation
as all development does throughout the City.
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EXHIBIT A (Continued)
5. General Policy V has to do with legal nonconforming
residential uses, which presently are, under our present
ordinance, subject to elimination under certain circum-
stances; and this policy recommends that a policy be
developed to allow these uses to achieve full conforming
status if they achieve a specified standard of
architectural and site planning.
6. General Policy VI deals with building height, in that
the Plan and the Committee felt that in certain areas
two story development was advantageous. They felt that
additional controls on height, which do not presently
exist, could be instituted to adequately deal with and
mitigate the impacts of this increased incidence of two
story height. Basically, it recommended the reduction
from the present 30 foot height limit for a two story
building to 22 feet for flat roofed and 24 feet for
pitched roofs and 25 feet for professional offices.
7. Policy VII was to address all. the City owned surplus land
in the area which is now vacant, and it basically directs
the City to either landscape, develop, or dispose of in
a satisfactory manner for development all those vacant
lands so they don't detract from the landscape.
And those are the general policies. I will then go through
the recommendation for the Plan area by area, and it will
probably help as I describe them to refer to that map on
page 14.
Area 1 includes Fred Waring Drive and Monterey Avenue. The
recommended land uses in that area are as follows: 0n Fred
Waring between Monterey and San Pablo, the present low
density, essentially single family designation is being
recommended to be changed to a professional office. The
goal of this particular change and many of the changes in
this area are to generate new development of comparable
quality and scale as developments which are occurring on
the north side of Fred Waring; namely, the Cultural Center
and the Civic Center; that these uses promoted and allowed
on the south side be of that same comparable quality in
this area. Because of the special impacting occasionally
being generated by the Cultural Center, professional offices
are being recommended. The depth of this zone will extend
two lots backing onto Santa Rosa. To mitigate the impact
of this increased intensity of use on Fred Waring, it is
recommended that a 30 foot greenbelt be established on the
north side of Santa Rosa and that only parking and the
creation of common uses parking lots be allowed on those
lots that presently back onto Santa Rosa. In the block
between, on Fred Waring, San Pablo and Portola, in that a
great number of multifamily uses already are in existence
on the lots presently fronting onto Santa Rosa in that area,
we are recommending a continuation of that use but a rezonins;
to high density residential with a senior housing overlay
which I will discuss somewhat later.
0n to Monterey. We are recommending continuation of
professional office uses beginning where the Board of Realtor
is north to Fred Waring and maintenance of the high density
residential on Fred Waring north of Fred Waring to Parkview
with the creation of a similar greenbelt buffer backing onto
Acacia. 0n the east side of Fred Waring we are recommending
that the professional office zone extend and continue down
to Catalina with, again, maintenance of a greenbelt behind
and basically stopping there at Catalina.
The second area is the area continuing on Monterey down to
Highway 111 and around the corner going east on Highway 111
to San Pablo. (to make sure I cover everything) The most
substantial proposal in this zone is the expansion of the
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EXHIBIT A (Continued)
current commercial use on Highway 111 back one lot into
what is now single family. Right now there is a single
family zone, I mean there is a commercial zone, an alley
and then residential lots back on to the alley. We are
proposing to maximize the Highway frontage on Highway 111
so that it does not become consumed by parking as would be
the case and as it is being proposed right now by various
property owners that the commercial zone be expanded into
the first row lots that are presently backing on the alley
and that area being utilized as a common access usage
parking area similar to Presidents Plaza and creation of
a greenbelt north of that adjacent to the residential uses.
Access to this parking area would be from the corner of
San Gorgonio and Monterey, San Marcos, and through what is
now the alley which would become a bio-access to the parking
area. The second recommendation is to study ways to reduce
traffic through the San Gorgonio neighborhood which is
presently being generated by the Palm Desert Town Center.
Considerable debate on this in the Committee and in the
hearings, it was clearly recognized that a serious problem
exists; how to deal with it was left unresolved.
Area number 3 - Santa Rosa to Guadalupe between Monterey
Avenue and San Pablo. This area is presently essentially
is development R-1 although its official designation is
R-2(7). The functioning of the R-2(7) in this particular
zone because of the subdivision pattern is as R-1. We are
recommending that it remain, that that pattern be preserved
and low density residential remain.
Area 4 - Monterey Avenue west to Fairhaven. In this area,
again, in terms of the interior, aside from those impacts
and changes specifically described on Monterey, the present
single family low density usage should be preserved.
Area 5 - Alessandro, basically from San Pablo all the way to
Deep Canyon. We are proposing the expansion of the present
depth of what is now a multifamily medium density zone with
professional offices a conditional use permit which is now
one lot deep. We are proposing that it be expanded to two
lots deep with the function of the second lot to be a lower
intensity, lower height, buffer between the two uses.
Area 6 - San Pascual and Catalina. This is the area roughly
around the Seniors Center. In the neighborhoods east of San
Pascual which are already predominantly built out with single
family, we are proposing preservation of the present single
family. Number two would be to encourage construction of
senior housing surrounding the Seniors Center, and we are
proposing the establishment of a senior housing overlay of
which a proposed draft is included in the back of the Plan,
which will provide standards for specifically designed senior
housing. West of San Pascual where we already have a mix of
basically vacant land and older multifamily, we are proposing
that it be zoned, all of the land be zoned multifamily to be
consistent with the existing development and to encourage
higher quality multifamily in the area.
One specific thing I should point out: In the parcels
directly east of the Seniors Center on Catalina, we are
proposing that in that this area abuts single family to the
south, that although we are .proposing the senior overlay and
what now is a medium density R-2 zone, that the SP (Senior
Preservation Overlay) or an equivalent restriction be placed
limiting development on this site to one story since it is
across the street from established single family, single
story homes.
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EXHIBIT A (Continued)
use and that the adjacent property owners are unwilling to
accept them and landscape them, the City should landscape
them and incorporate them into the parkway system. This
also includes parkways, for example,east of Portola on
the south side where you have houses backing up, where we
cannot expect those property owners to landscape that parkway
behind themselves on Portola, that those areas shall also be
slated for landscape and parkway installation. Wherever
possible, where new development is being generated, we can
put that parkway maintenance, installation maintenance, onto
the new development. And in these places where we do not
foreses new development, because of either the existence of
past development or just because of the sale of land, these
parkways should be developed by the City.
Last item is the Economics and Housing Elements, and this
section basically reiterates the goals and objectives of the
land use policies and in terms of ,the construction of senior
housing and multifamily housing from low and moderate income
households in the area. And the establishment of low interest
loan programs or other forms of financial incentives to
promote the rehabiliation and the improvement of existing
housing in the area. And this is b2.iically pursuant to the
programs recommended in the housing •element.
And that concludes my presentation. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Drell. It has been a long presentation. We
are pleased that you stayed with us all through it. The
results of this is the actions of the Committee that is in
the neighborhood that assisted staff in trying to come up
with a way to have a plan for this area that is acceptable
to everyone. This is a public hearing and I will start off
by asking for testimony from anyone ;.ho is in favor of this
plan.
I will, therefore, take testimony from anyone who is in
opposition to this plan.
My name is ROMEO PULUQI, 72-850 Tamarisk, and I live in the
south end. However, the north side, it's true, is one of
the oldest sections of the City, and although there is some
nice housing and some nice commercial buildings, the majority
of that area is sort of dilapidated. And in view of all the
affordable housing that the Council in the past has seen
necessary to approve in the north of Palm Desert, my greatest
fear, being that I am a property owner in the north side, is
that some of the tenants may leave those dilapidated homes on
the north side, or at least some of them, and move to those
new ones. Therefore, I have a tremendous fear that it may
end up being a very low, low rent district because the owner;
of the property will not be able to .afford keeping up with th
new construction that they can -place on the north side. I
hate to say this, but that area has been in a way kind of
neglected, in a manner of speaking, including when I was in
office in a manner of speaking because most of the output w
for the south side of Palm Desert. And I feel it is time to
approve this comprehensive plan although I believe that no
changes of zoning should take place at this time because you
may sort of stop the plan and make some of the property too
expensive for some people to buy and develop. I feel that
the City should be the leader and buy the property as it cores
up for sale, as I think the report has stated in it. I feel
that staff has done a good work and also the members of the
Committee. I do realize that there are some problems with
certain areas, but they can be dealt with as they come up.
However, the entire Plan I feel is good and I feel that the
Council should approve it immediately. Thank you.
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EXHIBIT A (Continued)
Walt Thank you. I might point out that the staff will be
available and we are available tonight if there are any
questions that you have.
Woman May I speak?
Walt I think that would be wonderful.
VERONA STEWART, 44-476 San Rafael. I live on one of those
streets, unpaved, 50% vacant. I think that it would be
worthwhile if only to get the streets paved and to get rid
of some of the vacant lots and the trash and the overgrown
weeds and the beer bottles and things like that. I do live
there, have lived there for over seven years. There has been
no new development in the area until the past year, and now
I see that there is, it looks like there are people,
contractors, moving in to make further developments, possibly
because of this new plan that we have been working on. So
although we can't satisfy everybody and there are some people
that aren't going to be able to go along with the plan, I
think the majority of the property owners who live there
would be in favor of it. Thank you.
Walt Thank you, ma'am.
Walt
My name is STANLEY SOPHER, 44-695 San Antonio Circle. I am
in favor of this plan, wholeheartedly in favor of it. However,
I would like to see San Gorgonio stopped there at Monterey
and some kind of a signal implanted there at 111 and San
Clemente so the people can, I think this is one of their
main problems for not closing this street. I was instru-
mental in getting a petition up to close San Gorgonio and
this was the main beef as such. If we close San Gorgonio, how
are we going to get around the shopping center. 0ne thing
is, if we do put a signal turn light at San Clemente and
Highway 111, they can get across the street. This is one
of the opposition beefs, and they can come out on 111 and
go around. This would cut off all of the, or a majority of
the traffic that through traffic in there that so many people
are complaining of. Now they are using it as a regular
highway, 45 and 50 miles an hour going through there, and
I imagine you have had people, you say they are counting the
cars going through there, how about the speeds. They can
tell you and give you a good report on that if they have
been alert in this matter. Another point that I would like
to speak on is the senior housing there. I understand they
are putting in an inn or a hotel for senior citizens. This
is not a hospital or a nursing home or what have you where
you, as probably most of you have gone into the elderly
nursing homes and seen the people wiping their mouths, these
elderly people that cannot get around and do for themselves.
This is not that type of a thing I understand. You have to
have at least a few dollars to get in to this type of a hote:
or motel and I think that it would be an asset to our area
there. I would be living just adjacent to this plan there,
this development, if it is allowed to go in and up to this
point it has just been one large eyesore and causing nothing
but a lot of dirt and people dumping their trash and so forth
there. I think this, if you would consider that, I think this
would be a very good plan for the City of Palm Desert. A
large improvement. Thank you very much.
Thank you, sir. And we are conducting traffic surveys to
determine what we can do with the traffic. I think you
were next, Charlie. 0ne more.
Good evening, Mr. Snyder and ladies and gentlemen of the
Council. ^7 am HELEN BREEDING. My h'-'-band and I own lots
42, 43, a 44 which is the corner c Fairhaven and Fred
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Waring Drive. We have owned these for 25 years and they
were, originally when we bought them, two were R-2 and one
was R-1. And when the County widened Fred Waring Drive they
told us that we would not have any problem changing the
third lot to R-2. Now, when Palm Desert took over the City
and Fred Waring Drive, unbeknown to us they changed them
to R-1 without notifying us. I believe this is a very
prestigious corner and if you come off of Highway 111 down
Fred Waring Drive, you have a big sign stating that this is
going to be a hotel and hopefully retail shopping. You
proceed a little further and you come to the Quail apartments
and the two churches. On our corner there is nothing except
one house a little bit to the east of us and another house to
the east of us clear to Monterey. I cannot see this particular
corner, which is three lots, going for single family dwelling.
I can't imagine anyone buying the lots to put a single family
home there that's just going to be sitting out there all
by itself. Just to the east of our lots is going to be a
greenbelt. Now if this is going to be single family and
there no doubt will be children, they will be using that as
a playground, and I don't think Fred Waring Drive with the
traffic is conducive to this. And I would be very happy if
you could see it to change this not from R-1 or R-2 which
they originally were but I think a ,rofessional building on
the corner which would service all 'he tenants in the Quail
Run apartment building would be far more advantageous and
using the property to the best of i•s use. Thank you kindly.
Walt Thank you. We'll look into that and ask...
Phil D. The plan recommends at the present time, based upon some
preliminary discussion with Mrs. Breeding, we are recommendin�
R-2 there, a medium density. We probably have no objection
to the corner lot being, or the corner two lots, being
redesignated potentially for professional office.
Walt Fine. You will discuss that with Mrs. Breeding?
Mrs. B May I just add that I think all three lots should become
one lot because that would, I can't see that working at all.
It would be too small to even build a house on it, a third
one. Thank you.
Walt Thank you. We'll take action on that, Mrs. Breeding.
I'm BILL ROSSWORN, 41-530 Woodhaven Drive in Palm Desert, and
I am a property owner on San Pablo and Catalina and Santa
Rosa and I am also a real estate developer and I think you
folks have done a good job on this planned development. I
wanted to commend you. Thank you.
Walt Thank you. Charlie.
CHARLIE MILLER, Little Bend Trail, Palm Desert. Council,
Mayor, the only concern I have, I think this is a beautiful
thing that staff has come up with and I am for it 100%. What
worries me, I face the Highway, I'll be on a corner lot back
from Monterey, and this new parking that is going to go
behind, they are going to do away with the alley, which I
think is fine, I'm for all of this. But what worries me is
that here is an expense going to come in here on who is going
to buy the lots for this public parking behind our property
on the other side of the alley. I understand there are some
people in Beverly Hills that own one lot and I own the other
one, and I am kind of concerned whether I'm going to be
reimbursed or what is going to happen there. And another
thing was the sewers. There are no sewers down in there at
all and I think that this should be kind of a number one
priority there to run the sewers down through there before we
get everything in place and have to tear it all up again. And
I thank you and I think it is a wonderful thing you are doing
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EXHIBIT A (Continued)
Thank you. Anyone else who would care to testify?
Another Planning Commissioner.
My name is GEORGE KRYDER. I live on Sonora Drive in Palm
Desert. I would like to comment on that specific area that
this young lady over here discussed. I don't know whether
she lives there, but I do, and I don't quite agree with her
conclusion that we should, nor do I agree with the plan whic
calls for the rezoning of these areas. It seems to me that
this zoning area is isolated, it is inserted into an existin
residential area, and while I would certainly have no
objection to some kind of higher density use on the corner,
I hate to see that zoning go into the area and up to Sonora.
If there were some adjacent zoning, if there were additional
reasons for it, I would concur. But there isn't any such
thing. In short, there is no reason for it. It is inconsis-
tent and it's really not in keeping with the general policy
that you set forth yourself which .I will reread quickly. To
the effect that multifamily and commercial zones should be
sufficient to allow efficient site planning and creation of
adequate buffer zones adjacent to single family zones. That
is not being done here. This area as it approaches Sonora
there are homes there now which I presume would have to be
destroyed. Am I correct on that? Well, then you are
rezoning areas where there are existing homes. There is a
single story duplex. But at any rate, it is a single family
area. The general policy in the discussion says that narrow
strips of commercial and multifamily zones adjacent to single
family zones are poorly suited to quality development and
negatively impact adjacent properties and I think that is
the case here. And it goes on to say that it is important
to designate zones which are appropriate to the scale and
quality of the development we wish to promote. On that bas:
alone, I think you are abrogating the promise that you make
in the general policy by changing and insertinz into that
primarily totally residential area an unwanted use. I would
just go further on one other area that was brought up and
that would be the sewer system which you may recall I have
talked about a couple of times before Planning Commission
and the Council. It seems to me that the curbs and gutters
are nice. I think the age of the area and the fact that it
is almost entirely cesspool, old cesspool, which are in need
of replacement, I think the sewer matter is much more
important than the curbs and gutters from my standpoint and
the standpoint of a lot of other people who live in the
area. Thank you.
Thank you Mr. Kryder. And I believe these matters will be
taken into consideration. And as you know any change would
have to go through a change of zone. What we are talking
about is a plan for an area. Yes, sir.
I'm JACK DAYTON, I live at 74-280 Alessandro, Palm Desert
Village here in #6. Mr. Mayor and Council people. I'm not
really going to say whether I am for or against. I think
overall you've done a good job in Palm Desert, an excellent
job compared to most cities. There are a few things and
trends that I see that may wind up like Los Angeles, and I
hope you never get there. Like Ventura Blvd. You've been
reading about that and hearing about that over the news
where a guy told them 10 years ago that if they didn't stop
the building they wouldn't be able to move. And they have
gotten to that point now. So with the rearrangement of some
of the increased density that I see here in the Plan, that is
one thing that I am concerned about. In fact, on Alessandro
we now have the Protection Services unit there which, when
they started they didn't require that much parking space.
Now the people like to park on the north side of Alessandro
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in the residential spaces for the people that come to visit
or need to live there and they work across the street. I
don't really think that's quite fair. In fact, one of my
tenants told one of the guys that he would come down and park
in front of his house in Coachella if he didn't stop parking
in front of his place, and it worked. And another thing is
when I first came down here 13 years ago from L.A. all I
heard was the south side. The north side is nothing, the
south side is where all the money is and that is where all
the buildings are and that is where everybody should buy.
And that as far as I am concerned Highway 111 has been the
Mason/Dixon line in this town. It has been that way ever
since I've been down here and probably many, many years
before. And when this town was laid out and sold in lots
nobody gived a damn about flood control because they didn't
put a divider down through the center of the town where they
could get the water from the north to the south, from the
south to the north and get it out f town. And of course
with this new assessment district .hich is going in for
curbs and gutters on the south side, all that is really
going to wind up doing is throw mo•e water down the streets
into the north side when you have .: heavy rain. That is one
reason we have the flood problem today even though the dyke
has been built. We get a rain like we did in '76, I question
whether that will be completely safe or not. And as far as
parking, we need somewhere in that area where those lots
should become a parking lot, where the City buys them and
provides a parking lot or what I don't know. But I think
you should consider it. And as far as rezoning the R-3
back two lots, well the guy on the .second lot right now is
better off than he would be than the guy on the third lot
if he made his R-1 next to the two front lots being R-3 •
cause you're going to have a lot more density and a lot more
traffic and a lot more noise and he's going to have to put
up with it and you can't put enough of a buffer in there to
kill it. So, frankly, I don't think you should put the
second lot where it isn't available, cause a vacant lot I
don't see a problem in talking to somebody in that respect.
But where you go and take an R-1 home like Mr. Arce's on
the corner of Santa Anita, second house down, one next to
me, he's got a lovely home in there. And that would mean
his lot would go R-3. That's not going to do him and peon:,
like him any good. In fact, it's going to hurt them in the
long run. Thank you.
Thank you, sir, for your observations. All of these matter -
will, of course, be looked into ar.' the purpose of the
Committee action was to indeed loo.: at this area. It is
the City's responsibility to participate and help and try
to plan and to work with the people who own this land and
who live in this Land to do what they want. And that w
the reason for the Committee meetin;.;s. And that was tn.
reason for getting everyone together to look at the orn. '.
try to come up with the best solutions possible that wnu
make the most people happy. That is the reason that thy
City took the forefront to move into and to assist and
have the meetings and to try to get everybody's innut and
create a plan that would do what we hoped would be the
advantageous to everyone. There will oe individual ite^.'..
the staff will be willing to meet with you, will discss
every item that you may feel that needs discussion. you
merely need to call and make an appointment and we'll he
happy to go over those items with you. We feel that we
have created a plan which has to have tremendous amount of
good things in it or it wouldn't have gotten this far. :'.e
will try to correct to the extent possible any of the had
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things that are in it. Does anyone else care to have any
statements relative to it before I close the public
hearing? Yes, sir.
My name is KIGER BARTON. I live at 44-519 San Anselmo,
and I think the Planning Commission and the people who
worked on the Committee should be commended. I know they
put in a lot of work and they've got some good ideas here.
There are a few things that I think should be thought about,
and one of them is the high density. This is a mistake I
have seen a lot of cities make. They pour in a lot of high
density right in their downtown area and then they come along
and they've created a lot of crime and this and that in
problems and they come along a few years later, and I've seen
them spend millions of dollars trying to correct that mistake.
And high density, it lowers the standard of living any place
it's put in. The higher the density, the lower the standard
of living and the more crime you're likely to have. So, to
me, high density is not an improvement. Another thought I
have is on these neighborhood parks. These sound really
great, but you have to maintain these parks and I wonder
who's going to police them or supervise them 24 hours a day.
That could be a headache to the City and perhaps the
immediate neighbors. And another thing, I think we should
have a limit on the number of people that can live in a
structure. I know of a place or two not far from us that
sometimes there are 30 or 40 people living like in a three
or four bedroom structure. And it's very chaotic for the
immediate neighborhood. It is a danger to them and so on.
I don't know, maybe the City does have a limit, but if
they don't I certainly think they should. Thank you very
much.
Thank you, sir. Anyone else who would care to testify
before the closing of this meeting, this hearing? If not,
I will close... I'm sorry, I didn't see you, sir.
I'm TERRAN ELAM. I live over on 74-035 Goleta Street, down on
the west end, and the high density right there I believe
the traffic problems are already going to affect an already
high traffic congested area. There is a vacant lot on the
northwest corner there off of Fred Waring and Portola that
will probably never be built as an R-1 because of the stop
light and the traffic going through there. And we also own
an adjoining lot right next to it that basically is losing
value because of the traffic. And it can't be built as an
R-1. Both sides of Goleta at the end there, yeah. That's
what I'm talking about, yeah. It might be better R-2 or
something you can build on, I don't know for sure. Thank
you.
Thank you. May I point out to you that all of the remarks
made here tonight are on tape and we will have the staff
look into everything that has been brought up here tonight
And we will attempt to adjudicate them and find ways to
notify people as to what our actions have been. Anybody
else who would care to testify?
Mrs. Mr. Mayor and Councilmembers, I would just like to ask one
Breeding question. When I was meeting, I think it was the first part
of April, I think it was mentioned that it was the desire
that Fred Waring Drive be similar to Tahquitz-McCallum in
Palm Springs. I can see that street in the future. I know
I won't be there. It is a very beautiful street, but I
can't see it with a little single family home here and a
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Ro y
EXHIBIT A (Continued)
building across the street as large as the apartments that
were just built and a church. You take right, slightly
behind where Von's used to be, there's a little three or
four unit, but the side of it is along Tahquitz-McCallum
and it just ruins the whole look of Tahquitz-McCallum
becuase it was allowed to be put in there many, many years
ago when they didn't have zoning. And it should be torn
down and a beautiful office building be put there. And I
do think that Fred Waring Drive is not a street where single
housing or even R-2 housing. Thank you.
Thank you, Mrs. Breeding. Anyone else? Any questions by
the Council?
I have one question for Mr. Drell. In the very northwest
corner you have a pink designation on your colored map and
there doesn't seem to be any designation of a usage change
on my page.
Phil D. There is no change. That pink is medium density, 5 to 10
units per acre. That is what the current zoning is. That
is what the Council approved a project at. It is approxi-
mately 7 units per acre is what that Ward project approval
was, so that is consistent with the current zoning and the
current project. In reference to Mrs. Breeding, I'm somewhat
remiss. At the Planning Commission, her property was dual
designated Professional Office/Medium Density, and I did
not change it. It is changed on the map in the staff report;
it is not changed on that map. But, her property is, she
owns, I believe, three lots that the two small ones that are
parcel lots at the corner and then the one lot south, in
that the rest of the property was either vacant or the
only remaining unit is a duplex. On those lots the effect
of the medium density would be to allow more duplexes like
the unit that is currently there. The question is whether
the office professional should extend all the way and that
is the question. In the Planning Commission map the entire
area was dual designated medium density/professional office.
Walt Thank you. Any other questions by the Council?
Jean
I don't have any questions, but I do have a comment. I am
very concerned about the high density residential that is on
Monterey adjacent to the single families behind it in the
one little office professional there. Then all that high
density and we are going to all the expense of getting
Monterey to be one of our main corridors into the City. I
don't really feel that coming in that you should come in and
pass a high density there and then go to office professional
with the Cultural Center on the other side. I think it's a
misuse of that piece of property right there. I think the
whole corridor coming into the City all along that way would
be far better served keeping it beautiful as an office
professional landscaping and the building rather than moving
all that traffic onto the Highway there and our corridor
entrance. I'm sure everybody knows I don't like high density
anyway. All along Fred Waring, I'm not cracked up about all
that either, but that one at Monterey really disturbs me.
Walt Thank you. We'll have the staff get on that one. Any
discussion?
Phyllis I wanted to question Jean. Which high density? You mean
the existing apartments?
Walt Let staff investigate it. Any further questions by the
Council? If not, I shall close the public hearing and
ask your approval or disapproval of the Plan and direct
staff to begin implementation of the recommendations.
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EXHIBIT A (Continued)
I think we need to discuss various aspects of this overall.
My reaction is that the Committee and the Planning Commission
and the staff have done a lot of hard work in trying to
identify ways to upgrade this. I have two overall concerns.
One deals with the quite extensive development of two story
units throughout, particularly in the high density areas and
in some of the office professional areas. And the second,
the overall concept of the high density residential throughou
and what along San Pablo and along Fred Waring in addition to
the two areas that Councilmember Benson mentioned. I think
that we need to be aware of the impact this will have on the
entire neighborhood, those two things, the two story and
the high density, extensive use of high density. It will
have a major impact and forever and irreversibly change the
character of that entire north side and I think we need to be
fully aware of that before we implement something without the
careful study. I know it's had careful study, but I think
we need to look at it from the impact that it will have. I'm
also not sure why some of the senior overlay units have to be
multiple story. I think by changing some of the sizes of the
units and carport requirements and so forth that you could
have more of lower density garden type developments in some
of the larger areas that we are talking about such as the
large blocks. Some of those are LDR(SO) but -I guess my main
concern is the two story and high density.
Phyllis I first want to publicly thank the people who participated in
this horrendous job, because it is, and the meetings and the
discussions aren't easy and I think the staff certainly has
done a fine job. I don't find too much fault with any of
their recommendations. I think that we are talking about an
overall plan, just like you do a general plan, that can
necessarily change as change dictates and this can happen
as we grow and develop. I'm really not as concerned about
the two story with the height modifications that were
recommended, lowering the maximum height limits, because by
doing this, as the staff explained, this allows for a lot
more open space than putting one story units and covering a
greater percentage of the ground. I think that's one of the
things that we're all concerned about. We're concerned more
rather than whether it's two story, we're concerned to see
what the overall height is, and when you can put two stories
in what is only two feet more than our one story height limit,
why that really doesn't make sense. So I'm not concerned
there. As far as the senior overlay is concerned, I think
that's where we have a definite obligation is to produce some
housing for our senior citizens in an area where their activity
center is and that they can participate in and be able to walk
to it and to enjoy it, and certainly I think we're all aware
that we have many, many seniors living here on fixed incomes
who need to have housing that they can afford, and I think the
only way we can give them that unless the City wants to be
generous and subsidize and do things like that, that we do
have to allow for some increased densities, but I think those
have to be carefully chosen as to where the locations are an(
what the benefits are to the people who will be occupying th,
But generally overall I think that they've done a fantastic
job and I've owned property in the area for many, many years
and I would join with everybody else. I'm tired of being a
second class citizen and I think it's time that we upgraded
the entire area and provided the incentives for people who
want to improve their property by encouraging new building
and as long as it remains the way it is, people will not come
into the area and will not build there. And it is certainly
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no encouragement to spend money on the front yards and on
the what is laughlingly called the street in the area that
I own - I know most of it has broken away and there are
great gutters where the water has run down and washed the
sand away. But I think that this is the step in the right
direction and I think that within the next five years we'll
see a real marked difference in the look of the area and
certainly in the property values there.
Walt Mr. Kelly.
Dick
Well, I think that everyone has done a terrific job, and I
realize that there are certain aspects that we might not
all agree with and there are some that concern me also, but
I think as a general plan, it is an excellent plan. And I
think the opportunity for senior citizen development around
our seniors center is very good. I think the office
professional will help uplift the area and I think it's a
good plan.
Walt Thank you. Jean?
Jean No, I've said what I have to say. I certainly agree, too,
that the seniors need their housin;, and those areas in the
central area I have no fault with. It's the peripheral
areas that I'm concerned about.
Walt We can't hear you. Please talk into the mike.
Jean I said it's the perpheral areas that I am concerned about
and the high density along the outside of these areas. The
inside I think will take care of itself. Those are zoned,
I think, very well to upgrade the neighborhood. But I am
concerned about spilling all the traffic onto the main
thoroughfares with high density units and the second story.
Roy
I think maybe I gave the impression I wasn't for the senior
overlay. I think it's a good idea, but I think seniors of
all people deserve in their latter years to live on the
ground floor and not have to climb stairs to their units,
and I think we could put or include an SP zone over this
area and it would be to the advantage of seniors rather
than a detriment.
Phyllis We could give them an elevator.
Roy That's expensive.
Phil D. The senior overlay draft requires elevators for all second
story units and all units be handicapped accessible.
Walt
As you can see, ladies and gentlemen, nothing is easy. We
do, indeed, have some serious considerations. I don't think
any of us could argue that most of us come out here to live
to get away from high density and crowding and that sort of
thing. I can frankly tell you that's the reason I'm here.
I don't want it, but I don't want to see an area go downhill
either. I want to find a way that we can improve our City,
improve the area in which you live, and do it in the best
manner possible. I don't think any plan that we could put
together would meet the approval of everybody. They'll all
have some problems. I have joined Councilman Wilson and
Councilman Benson in our fight to retain our open spaces and
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less density. And I will continue to do that. I think I
have to face the fact that this area needs some help. That
was the reason to ask all of you to get together with us and
plan how to do it, and it's not a plan that is total. We'll
be working on it. We've taped everything. Our staff is
available to discuss with you individual problems. I think
together we can put it together. I think we can make this
something that we'll be proud of. It will take us awhile,
but this is the first step. And I think it's a plan; it's
better than we've had before, and I would like to suggest
that we go ahead with the plan and modify it as we go to
make it like as near possible that all of us want. If
there is no further discussion, I'll close the public
hearing.
Roy Go ahead and close the public hearing. I'd like to continue
to discuss it.
Walt I hereby close the public hearing.
Roy Let's take a look at our little map here. From San Carlos,
middle of the plan running along San Pablo to San Carlos at
one point to San Rafael the rest of the point. All of that
up to Santa Rosa and then all the way to Portola is designated
high density residential which according to this map is 18
dwelling units per acre. Now we have a lot of apartment units
in there, but it's nowhere near 18 units to the acre.
Conceptualize what this will look like. One Quail place is,
what, 21 units to the acre, Phil?
Phil D. 22
Roy
We're talking basically a density not quite the magnitude of
One Quail Place running this entire area. That's a lot of
traffic, that's a lot of housing, that's a lot of congestion.
It's going to impact all the other LDR, the lower density
residential units, throughout that area. And likewise as
Councilman Benson pointed out earlier, up across from College
of the Desert all along there along Arcadia right adjacent to
Arcadia which is a nice large subdivision, large lots, nice
neighborhood. You're putting potential 18 units to the acre
density right up against that residential. And I have serious
reservations about most of the HDR in this plan.
Phil D. Do you want me to respond to that? I can a little bit. The
first area...
Walt ....put you on the spot.
Phil D.
No, it's alright. The Committee's feeling on why that area
on San Pablo and Fred Waring were designated high density
residential. What we have presently there now is, as you
said, vacant lots and apartments. Apartments range from
about 12 units to the acre up to 18 units per acre. And
there are two story apartments there. Presently all the
lots that now front on Santa Rosa are zoned R-2. The presen
zoning allows two stories there. The situation we have now
which we felt was a little bit unusual, is we have a one story
requirement right on Fred Waring backed up by a two story,
or a present zone which allows two stories right behind them.
Generally you have situations the other way around. You use
a higher intensity use on a major street to buffer low intensity
uses on the interior, and the present situation we have it
reversed, and the proposals for the high density residential
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will, one, bring the zoning more consistent with what
current development is and provide the same privileges
in terms of height to the people on Fred Waring as the
people on Santa Rosa enjoy. The same, I guess, rationale
existed down San Pablo. Presently, if you look at the
bottom area where you have San Carlos, that is presently
zoned R-3 and it is developed with apartments. And it
is zoned R-3 up San Rafael about three-quarters of the
way, here we have another situation where we have higher
density zoning on the inside and then on San Pablo where
we have the medium density multifamily. Again, an unusual
situation where the people who are really experiencing the
impact have a lower density regulation as opposed to the
inside. So in view of the overall existing trend of
development, the Committee felt it was not reasonable to
expect the developers of the vacant properties to develop
lower densities when the existing development all around
them is higher densities. And consistent with the goal
of trying to stimulate development of these vacant lots
with high quality projects, that was the source of those
recommendations. 0n the high density on Monterey, again
although it was omitted somewhat from the map, in the most
north high density zone there would be a similar greenbelt
concept on the east side of Acacia. What that greenbelt
concept is is that the beginning of any project in terms
of a perimeter wall would be at the existing 20 foot setback
line for a single family home. Therefore, that 20 foot front
yard plus the, in that case, approximately 10 foot parkway,
would become and would have to be maintained by any future
development as a 30 foot greenbelt. The goal, the site
planning on these both projects would be that only one
story uses would be permitted on those zones on those lots
that right now would be backing onto Acacia. And the two
story development would occur on Monterey. So the one
story, two story, single family process would be preserved
with the addition of the continuously landscaped 30 foot
greenbelt on Acacia. And that would also occur on the
southernly process. So wherever it was possible that
buffer zone would attempt to be created, it was not created
on the San Pablo to Portola since the adjoining development
was multifamily and it was felt there was no need to buffer
multifamily adjacent to multifamily.
Walt Thank you.
Phyllis I'd like to comment on Roy's concerns about the high density
zoning along San Pablo and San Rafael, because I can site a
living example of what density can do and not do for you. I
owned a lot on San Rafael that was zoned for 13, and this \a:,
before the City became incorporated and under the County
zoning. 13 units were allowed on that lot, which was about
a half acre site, and we were unable to obtain financing
because in order to build the building with 13 units we
could not get rents to justify the money to borrow the money
to build the building. Therefore, we sold the lot for a
$4,000 loss; I wish I had it today. But density is the
only way we can ever provide affordable housing. And as
long as it is in the least objectionable areas, and this
area is certainly a mixture, we'd have to say, of zoning and
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EXHIBIT A (Continued)
of types of uses and of conditions. And I think to
encourage some attractive looking apartment buildings is
what we really need in the area. I don't think anybody
can object to the look of Quail Place. I think it's
added a great deal of attractiveness to the community.
Any other comments? If not, I have closed the public
hearing. We have received comments. What is the pleasure
of the Council?
Phyllis I would like to move that we waive further reading and
adopt Resolution No. 85-49 approving the General Plan
Amendment 85-2, the Palma Village Specific Plan, and
direct staff to begin implementation of Plan recommendations.
Walt I have a motion; do I have a second?
Dick Second.
Walt It has been moved and seconded that Resolution No. 85-49
be approved and that staff be directed to begin implementation
of the Plan recommendations. Would you please indicate your
position by voting.
Sheila The motion carries by a 3-2 vote, with Councilmembers Wilson
and Benson voting NO.
Ray Mr. Mayor, as a point of clarification for future hearings,
the Plan is labeled General Plan Amendment 2, and as you
know, the City is limited to four General Plan amendments
a year. This is for labeling purposes only and does not
constitute one of our General Plan amendments. And this
has been discussed and concurred with by the City Attorney.
I just wanted to state this for the record.
Walt
Thank you. Thank all of you for your courtesy and your
participation in our efforts tonight. We appreciate it
very much.
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