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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1986-01-24MINUTES <_ JOINT COUNCIL/PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING 11:00 A.M. - JANUARY 24, 1986 I. PRESENT II. Council Members: Dick Kelly, Mayor Jean Benson Roy Wilson Walt Snyder Staff: Bruce Altman Carlos Ortega V'Sheila Gilligan Dick Folkers Ray Diaz Steve Smith Linda Russell Planning Commissioners: Buford Crites, Rick Erwood Bob Downs Ralph Wood Chairman TOUR A. Fred Waring Drive west to Highway 111 Three developments on these corners were discussed. SW corner - 32 acres - A proposed commercial, 10 acre development (274 unit hotel) will be before Council on February 13, 1986. SE corner - Next to Flying J restuarants and hotel. - Dunham proposes 6 NE corner - a proposed hotel (Raffles) with retail and a Farmer's Market. This is preliminary at this time. B. West on Highway 111 to Park View 'Valet parking at the shopping center of Rusty Pelican and Rueben's to be checked into. C. East on Highway 111 to San Pablo The landscaping of superblocks was discussed. This area includes Hwy 111 from Lupine to Larkspur. MINUTES JOINT COUNCIL/PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING JANUARY 24, 1986 Mayor Kelly also noted that the parking lot area near Coco's Restuarant should be considered for bus stop. D. South on San Pablo to Sun Lodge Colony Property (See Discussion) E. East El Paseo, North on Portola, thence East on Hwy 111 to Deep Canyon, thence South to Fred Waring Drive. There was some discussion regarding the east end entryway sign and its location. A small committee group will meet to gather ideas. F. Fred Waring West to Portola North to Magnesia Falls, South on Deep Canyon to Fred Waring. These locations covered the community park and the proposed high school access road on Deep Canyon. (See Discussion) G. East on Fred Waring to Cook St., North on Cook Street to Hovley. At the west end of Hovley is a proposal 5 units to the acre with a Sand Dunes Park. Commissioner Downs was concerned with the water hole at the location with no drain access. Mayor Kelly suggested locating a Junior Golf Course in open space site. Committee formed: Walt Snyder, Mayor Kelly, Buford Crites, Rick Erwood, and Bruce. This committee will meet with developers on Wednesday, January 29. H. Back to Cook Street, North to Country Club, West to Monterey. It was noted that Cook Street extends now to Frank Sinatra Drive. An 83 acre parcel was pointed out for possible recreational vehicle lots. 2 MINUTES JOINT COUNCIL/PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING JANUARY 24, 1986 I. South on Monterey This area was sited for possible sidewalks from Monterey Country Club to Fred Waring Drive. On Fred Waring Drive, it was agreed to give proclamations to those property owners improving their properties. 1:00 P.M. - LUNCH AT PALM VALLEY COUNTRY CLUB NOTE: DISCUSSIONS ARE IN ORDER OF THE AGENDA AND TOUR III. DISCUSSIONS A. Proposed Developments on Corners of Highway 111 and Fred Waring Drive. Ray Diaz began discussions with the developments on the corners of Fred Waring Drive and Highway 111. The area across from Flying J, at the northeast corner, is the proposed Raffles Hotel. It is scheduled for Planning Commission public hearing in February. They will also be meeting with the City of Rancho Mirage on Monday. The area adjacent to Hoames Pool Service (southwest corner) is a proposed hotel. This proposed project was dented by the Planning Commission and was called up for City Council review. Mayor Kelly and Bruce Altman met with the developers and explained that a question of what the City needs and wants at that entrance to the City needs to be discussed. Buford Crites stated that he would like to see hotels but the attitude of the developer has not been in the best interest of the City. Mayor Kelly felt that the developer understands what the City wants and is willing to work with the City Council and staff. He would like to see staff work with them to come up with something more developable for the City. Councilman Wilson suggested that they give the developer a plan of what is desired at that location giving the developer ideas of what to come up with. Councilman Wilson felt that location should have cottage type, low density development. Mayor Kelly emphasized the value of the property and its 3 MINUTES JOINT COUNCIL/PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING JANUARY 24, 1986 importance to have a development that will enhance the City. Councilwoman Benson agreed and added that they want to avoid spot commercial development. The Hoames Pool parcel was discussed and it was stated that this portion of the property could either be a part of redevelopment or the City could specify what was needed and wanted in that portion. Bruce Altman summarized the discussion by reviewing the questions: 1) What is wanted and what will encourage interest; and 2) What is the best way to accomplish this. The economic committee will help in answering these questions. Commissioner Downs at this point was concerned with what to express to developers at the hearings. Mr. Altman and Council felt that the door should be kept open to them with the understanding that this entrance to the City is very important and valuable. Commissioner Crites noted that the Commissioners' concern was not of hotels but the definition of ancillary uses. (Note: Raffles will be close to 300 rooms). Councilman Wilson reiterated that the Commissioners should look at these developments very carefully and as the most valuable pieces of property. The Farmers Market concept was discussed, which is proposed at the northeast corner (Raffles). It was suggested that a committee be formed to take a trip to see existing hotels for ideas. Everyone agreed, a committee will be formed by Ray Diaz and a 1-day trip planned. Councilman Wilson suggested that the staff do a little research first and report to the committee. B. Superblocks The main issue was the landscaping for those areas. Councilman Wilson pointed out that the City already had plans and perhaps those plans can be reviewed and revised if necessary to meet the desires and also address the findings of the Drought Tolerant Committee. 4 MINUTES JOINT COUNCIL/PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING JANUARY 24, 1986 C. Sun Colony Proposal Bruce Altman stated that the economic consultant recommended a major department store on El Paseo. This would help in keeping El Paseo with the image it has and less threatening by the Indian Wells Resort proposal. The Council and Planning Commission agreed and directed Mr. Altman to meet with representatives of a proposal to a major department store in the area between Larkspur and San Pablo on El Paseo. D. High School Access Road Bruce Altman stated that a meeting with the school district will be made to discuss access road alternatives (Magnesia Falls vs. Cook Street). E. New Hotels and Entry Area at East End of City A committee will be meeting to define what is wanted and will report back with suggested ideas. F. Sand Dunes Park Site Ray Diaz noted that a meeting of the developers will take place next Wednesday. The following persons will also be attending: Walt Snyder, Mayor Kelly, Rick Erwood, and Carlos Ortega. G. On Country Club to Monterey Bruce Altman stated that the economic consultant will be doing a preliminary study for the area everything north of the wash. H. Sidewalks at Monterey The desire was expressed to put in sidewalks along Monterey. Questions arising from the discussions were: What is the financial feasibility? What will it take to implement? What priority will it have? Councilwoman Benson responded 5 MINUTES JOINT COUNCIL/PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING JANUARY 24, 1986 that if Rancho Mirage cooperates then it should be placed as high priority. I. Temporary Sidewalks along El Paseo There was discussion on other possible alternatives. A report will be given to Council at a later date. J. Price Club Center The only concern expressed was that it be located in the industrial zone area off Cook Street. The concept, otherwise was agreeable to all. K. Economic Committee Formation Councilman Wilson suggested the following: a) Advisory Board - 2 liaisons from 2000 committee, (1) Planning Commissioner, (1) Councllmember, City Manager, and Director of Community Services. b) Committee of staff for setting policy and negotiation. This was agreeable to all. IV. ADJOURNMENT - 4:05 P.M. /lr 6 LINDA RUSSELL, Secretary