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REGULAR PALM DESERT CITY COUNCIL MEETING
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 24, 1987
CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
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I. CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Kelly convened the meeting at 4 p.m.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - Councilman Walter H. Snyder
III. INVOCATION - Mayor Richard S. Kelly
IV. ROLL CALL
Present:
Mayor Pro-Tem Jean M. Benson
Councilman Buford Crites
Councilman Walter S. Snyder
Councilman S. Roy Wilson
Mayor Richard S. Kelly
Also Present:
Bruce A. Altman, City Manager
Carlos L. Ortega, Assistant City Manager
David J. Erwin, City Attorney
Sheila R. Gilligan. City Clerk/P.I.O.
Mary P. Frazier, Deputy City Clerk
Ramon A. Diaz, Director of Community Services
Richard J. Folkers, Director of Public Works
Kirby J. Warner. Director of General Services
Patrick Conlon, Director of Building & Safety
Frank Allen, Director of Code Compliance
V. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. MINUTES of the Regular City Council Meeting of September
10, 1987.
Rec: Approve as presented.
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B. CLAIMS AND DEMANDS AGAINST THE CITY TREASURY - Warrant
Nos. WR0814, WR0816, and WR0904.
Rec: Approve as presented.
C. APPLI.CATION FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE LICENSE by James L.
Foxx, 73-111 El Paseo, Palm Desert.
Rec: Receive and refer to the Department of Community
Development/Planning for processing.
D. RESOLUTION N0. 87-84 - A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF PALM DESERT, CALIFORNIA, SETTING FORTH ITS
FINDINGS AND AUTHORIZING THE DESTRUCTION OF FILES FROM THE
FINANCE DEPARTMENT THAT HAVE BEEN MICROFILMED.
Rec: Waive further reading and adopt.
E. REQUEST FOR RENEWAL OF CONTRACT 00-161-1
Manager.
Rec:
F. REQUEST
Property
✓ Rec:
for Project
By Minute Motion, authorize a one-year extension
of the contract for services by the current
project manager.
FOR APPROVAL to Refund Mechanical Permit for
Located at 72-630 Sundown Lane, Palm Desert.
By Minute Motion, approve the refund of $122.00
for two duplicate mechanical permits (RM5804 on
02/03/87 in the amount of $59.50 and RM5982 on
04/27/86 in the amount of $62.50) issued to
Arctic Air.
G. REQUEST FOR NOTIFICATION of Change Order No. 1 to Contract
No. 00-195E, BSI Consultants,Inc., in the Amount of
$376.53.
Rec:
By Minute Motion, receive and file.
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H. REQUEST FOR APPROVAL of Reimbursement for Legal Fees in
Connection with the Processing of an Appeal of a Rent
Review Commission Decision Relative to Portola Palms
Mobilehome Park.
Rec:
By Minute Motion, authorize the payment of
$1,106.30 to Hart, King 8 Coldren from Trust
Account #610-2275 as reimbursement for legal
fees for processing an appeal of a Rent Review
Commission decision through the 4th District
Appellate Court.
I. REQUEST FOR FINAL APPROVAL of Parcel Map 22499, Shaco,
Inc.
Rec: Waive further reading and adopt Resolution No.
87-85 approving Parcel Map 22499.
J. CONSIDERATION OF RECLASSIFICATION OF ASSOCIATE CIVIL
ENGINEER TO SENIOR ENGINEER.
Rec: By Minute Motion:
1) Authorize the reclassification of the
Associate Civil Engineer to Senior
Engineer; and
2) Adjust salary appropriation at mid -year.
K. CONSIDERATION OF REQUEST from City of Colton for a
Resolution in Support of Maintaining Mexican Consulate
Services in the Inland Empire Area.
Rec: Direct staff to prepare a resolution of support.
Upon motion by Snyder, second by Benson, the Consent Calendar was
approved as presented by unanimous vote of the Council.
VI. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - A
MS. JOAN MITCHELL, Portola Palms Mobilehome Park, 43-155
Portola Avenue, addressed Council in protest of the rent
increase imposed on her park as the result of a 4th District
Court of Appeals decision. She said none of the tenants had
been advised until well after both the Court decision and the
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Rent Review Commission decision, and she felt the increase
unfair. She said she had spoken with the City Attorney's
office and been told by Doug Phillips that the tenants were not
a party to the lawsuit and thus had not been notified. Since
the tenants were those most affected by the increase, she felt
they should have been notified.
VII. RESOLUTIONS
None
VIII. ORDINANCES
For Introduction:
A. ORDINANCE NO. 514 - AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF PALM DESERT, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING TITLE 27,
GRADING, OF THE PALM DESERT MUNICIPAL CODE.
Mr. Folkers reviewed the report in detail noting that this
amendment would provide staff with enough latitude to
address the many different slopes in the City on a case -
by -case basis. It would also alleviate 99% of the
problems. He said that a committee of both staff and
outside professionals such as engineers had drafted the
amendment and that it had been reviewed favorably by a
number of contractors and builders as well.
Upon question by Council, he added that the amendment did
include provisions for regulating the stockpiling of dirt
on vacant lots as well as the mining of sand.
Council Comments:
Snyder: Complimented staff and committee and what
appeared to be the best solution Council had seen.
Kelly: Said Long Beach had an ordinance dealing with
original terrain and anything above it had to have a
dropped building floor. Suggested staff get a copy to see
if its provisions would work in Palm Desert.
Upon motion by Crites, second by Wilson, and unanimous vote of the
Council, Ordinance No. 514 was passed to second reading.
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B. ORDINANCE NO. 515 - AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF PALM DESERT, CALIFORNIA, RELATING TO STREET
CUT AND TRENCH REPAIRS WITHIN NEWLY CONSTRUCTED STREETS.
Mr. Folkers stated that this ordinance had been suggested
by Councilman Snyder and in essence would prohibit
contractors and utility companies from going into newly
paved streets, trenching them, and returning them to less
than perfect condition as had been done in the past. He
said that in the case of Portola Avenue, this type of work
would be prohibited for three years.
Upon motion by Crites, second by Benson, and unanimous vote of the
Council, Ordinance No. 515 was passed to second reading.
For Adoption:
A. ORDINANCE NO. 512 - AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF PALM DESERT, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING SECTION
25.56.1900) PERTAINING TO HEDGES.
Mr. Altman reported that this was second reading of the
ordinance, and no input had been received since first
reading. He recommended its adoption.
Upon motion by Wilson, second by Snyder, Ordinance No. 512 was
adopted by unanimous vote of the Council.
B. ORDINANCE NO. 513 - AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF PALM DESERT, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING SECTION
10.36.010 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE RELATIVE TO ESTABLISHING
NEW SPEED ZONES (Haystack Road Between State Highway 74
and Portola Avenue).
Mr. Altman reported that this was second reading of the
ordinance, and no input had been received since first
reading. He recommended its adoption.
Upon motion by Crites, second by Benson, Ordinance No. 513 was
adopted by unanimous vote of the Council.
IX. CONSENT ITEMS HELD OVER
None
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X. NEW BUSINESS
A. REQUEST FROM MRS. PHYLLIS S. JOHNSON FOR OPPORTUNITY TO
ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL.
Mrs. Johnson addressed the City Council and read from a
prepared statement which asked the City to rescind the
assessment placed on her property in the North Sphere,
said assessment being for street improvements.
Upon conclusion of Mrs. Johnson's reading, Mayor Kelly
stated the Council would receive her comments for the
record. To this, Mrs. Johnson said "in other words, you
are refusing to take any action as to revoking or
rescinding these assessments against these land parcels,
is that correct?" Mayor Kelly, noting that litigation was
involved, asked the City Attorney to respond. Mr. Erwin
advised that it was his recommendation that the
Councilmembers hear Mrs. Johnson's testimony which they
had Just done, that they receive any written documents she
may present, and that they take no action.
Mayor Kelly thanked Mrs. Johnson and stated the Council would take
no action.
B. RECOMMENDATION FROM EL PASEO BUSINESS ASSOCIATION RELATIVE
TO CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS.
Mr. Altman said that he, the Police Chief, and the Fire
Chief had been working with the Association in what
appeared to be a very exciting Christmas festivity. He
said that concerns about the luminaries had been
alleviated by agreeing that a patrol of police, senior
citizens, and merchants would continuously check to make
sure they were not tipped and a fire hazard.
MR. BILL WARING, Co -Chairman of the El Paseo Business
Association, told the Council that for three nights before
Christmas these luminaries would be placed along both
sides of El Paseo to light the street in a holiday
fashion. In addition, merchants were participating in a
window decorating contest, and food vendors, carolers,
Santa Claus, and various musicians would be on hand to
make the street a very festive atmosphere for holiday
shoppers. He said that this would be expanded on year-to-
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year so that it would be something that would draw
shoppers from all over southern California.
Councilman Wilson moved to authorize staff to issue any necessary
encroachment permits required to carry out the Christmas plan on El
Paseo. Councilman Crites seconded the motion. Motion carried by
unanimous vote.
C. REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATION OF PERMISSION FOR CONSUMPTION OF
ALCOHOL AT THE CIVIC CENTER FOR THE PALM DESERT GOLF CART
PARADE.
Mr. Altman reviewed the staff report and recommendation.
Upon question by Councilman Crites, he responded that the
permit was for the sale of beer only.
Councilman Crites moved to grant the request and authorize staff to
issue the necessary permits. Councilman Wilson seconded the motion, and
the motion carried by unanimous vote.
D. CONSIDERATION OF REPORT RELATIVE TO PROPERTIES IN THE
NORTH SPHERE WHICH WERE APPROVED OR UNDER CONSIDERATION
FOR DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS BEFORE THE MORATORIUM WENT INTO
EFFECT.
Council took no action on this staff report.
XI. CONTINUED BUSINESS
A. REQUEST FOR CLARIFICATION OF CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ON
PARCEL MAP 21412/PP 85-46 - 0 & 0 DEVELOPMENT, INC.
(Continued from Meeting of August 27, 1987).
Mr. Folkers reviewed the staff report and recommendation
for denial of the request.
MS. CAMILLE H. COURTNEY, Vice President of D & D
Development, stated that she felt the Council in its
approval of the project had intended to delete Condition
No. 27 which required her company to pay $50,000 for the
widening of the bridge crossing at Parkview Drive. She
said that listening to the tape of the meeting convinced
her that while Council had discussed it, it had failed to
include it in its motion of aproval.
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Secondly, she said that wh 1 l e her firm was wi l i i ng to
donate 55 feet of right-of-way on Fred Waring Drive for
its widening, there was a discrepancy as to where this 55
feet was to be measured from. She said her engineer was
measuring from the existing centerline of the street while
the Public Works Department was measuring from 15 feet
south of that which meant her firm would be giving up an
additional 9,750 square feet of frontage.
Mr. Folkers stated that with regard to the first request
or Condition No. 27, his department was investigating the
possibility of an assessment district of all property
owners to pay for the widening of Fred Waring Drive. Upon
question by Mayor Kelly, Ms. Courtney stated her firm
would be willing to sign an agreement to participate in
this district once formed if the requirement for the
$50,000 cash participation at this time was waived.
With regard to the second request, Mr. Folkers said there
was confusion as to where the right-of-way was to be
measured from, but he reiterated and further supported the
City's position that it should be measured from the
sect i on l i ne or 15 feet north of the centerline of the
street.
Councilman Crites asked if staff felt there was a
disadvantage from changing the existing condition from a
cash deposit to an assessment district in the future. Mr.
Diaz responded he would prefer their agreement to
participating in the future in a district inasmuch as when
the street is widened, the $50,000 probably won't be
enough. Participation in the assessment district would
give the City the ability to get payment for the actual
cost et that time which would probably be more than
$50,000.
Councilman Wilson moved to direct staff to prepare the appropriate
amendment to the Resolution of approval to drop the $50,000 required and
to further prepare an agreement for D & D Development to participate in
an assessment district in lieu of this condition. Coujncilman Crites
seconded the motion, and the motion carried by unanimous vote.
MR. TIM PAONE, 1470 Jamboree Road, Newport Beach, addressed
Council on behalf of the applicant and referring to his letter
to City dated August 26th which he felt justified measuring the
right-of-way from the centerline vs. the sectlonline. He said
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that when the conditions are imposed, they should be clear and
not worded in such a way that the applicant was left in
confusion.
Council Comments/Questions:
Wilson: Said as he understood it, the right-of-way was not the
issue but rather the intent of the condition approved as to
where it started. Folkers responded that was the case.
Crites: Asked if staff was comfortable in saying that its
interpretation of the right-of-way in this recommendation is in
keeping with the spirit of what the Council adopted. Folkers
responded saying yes, and that staff was not trying to play
games.
Mr. Paone said that it was easy to say that now and continued
to urge Council to uphold his position that the right-of-way
should be measured from the centerline of the street.
Snyder: Said that Council was trying to be reasonable and to
compromise by lifting the $50,000 deposit. Believed the
traffic problem created by the development had to be addressed
by this condition.
Councilman Crites moved to uphold staff's interpretation of this
item, and Councilmember Benson seconded the motion. Motion carried by
unanimous vote.
B. CONSIDERATION OF REQUEST FROM CIVIC ARTS COMMITTEE for
$7,500 Per Year Funding for a Palm Desert Childrerl's Choir
(Continued from Meeting of September 10, L987).
Mr. Diaz reported that at Council's direction, this
request had been presented to the Parks & Recreation
Commisison for recommendation, and that body had adopted a
resolution in support of the request. He noted that the
City Attorney had stated that if Council approved it, that
approval would have to be given annually.
Mrs. G i 1 1 i gan reported that as a result of a published
press release, parents of approximately 20 children had
called to say their children would be interested.
MR. ALEX YARON. Chairman of the Civic Arts Committee,
stated he had spoken with the Director of the CVB, Mr. Gil
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Zimmerman, who had expressed enthusiastic support of the
idea as a way of promoting the city.
Councilman Crites said that we tend to think of activities
of children as those relating to sports. It has been a
disservice to think of these activities as only those
which are competitive when things such as fine arts and
culture are equally important.
Dick Kelly moved to approve the request and to appropriate $7,500
for its one-year funding. Councilman Crites seconded the motion, and the
motion carried by unanimous vote.
C. REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATION of Civic Center Remodel Contract
(Continued from Meeting of September 10, 1987).
Mr. Altman reviewed the staff report and recommendation.
MR. JOHN OUTCAULT, Project Architect, reviewed for the record
the effort made to solicit bids for the project. He said that
the bids were substantially higher than estimated, and he
believed that was due to the division of the work into three
parts.
MR. DAVE KRETZ, owner of Kretz Construction and the only bidder
on the project, addressed Council stating that his pencil was
sharp in preparing his bid and that he had thoroughly reviewed
the premise before sitting down to write his proposal. He
asked that Council consider awarding the bid to his firm.
MR. SANDY BAUM, 45-800 Deep Canyon Road, read a prepared
statement of suggested revisions to the proposed Civic Center
modifications (said letter attached hereto and made a part
hereof as Exhibit "A").
Councilman Snyder moved to: 1) Reject the bid received from Kretz
Construction; 2) Instruct the architect to make changes in the contract
documents, said changes listed in the staff report dated September 16,
1987; and 3) Upon completion of the revisions to the contract documents,
instruct staff to readvertise and call for bids. Councllmember Benson
seconded the motion.
Council Comments:
Councilman Wilson stated for the record: You have ell heard me, and
you kow my feelings on this, but I do want to make a couple of
comments. First of all, I too have great respect for the architect
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who has worked on this. In fact, I owe him a debt of gratitude. He
was on the Board of Trustees for the College 21 years ago and hired
me. However, I have some real problems with this. I secondly have
an empathy that we need to do something about the acoustics and the
sound problems In this chamber. However, I think it can be done a
lot cheaper than this package. For example, they brought down our
sound engineer tonight. He turned the volume up, and it has done
wonders for this evening's solution to the sound problems. 1 think
there are a lot of little things we might do to solve the problems.
It bothers me, and we have been talking about this chamber. This is
a nice public building, and that is fine, but the biggest expense on
this package is to make a nicer conference room for the Council to
serve refreshments next door to the staff dining room - $95,000. I
think it is ridiculous. 1 was opposed to this when we were talking
about something between 5% and 10% of the total cost of this
complex. We are now looking at a figure that is basically 15% of
the total cost to build this entire Civic Center to do three things:
1) Make a more comfortable conference room; 2) provide security for
the Council offices that I don't think are necessary; and 3) to try
to do something about redesigning this chamber. I think basically
that the proposal is ludicrous, extravagant, and an unnecessary
expenditure of City funds.
Crites: Felt a larger conference room was needed; agreed with
Wilson that Chamber modification proposed was more than what was
needed as the simple change in the speaker system made for this
meeting had done wonders; continued to be "flat opposed" to Council
office alterations as he saw no reason to expect possible terrorist
attacks and therefore the security would not be necessary.
Mayor Kelly called for the vote on the motion on the floor, and it
passed by a 3-2 vote with Councilmen Wilson and Crites voting NO.
XII. OLD BUSINESS
A. REQUEST FROM WILLIAM N. COSGROVE FOR OPPORTUNITY TO
ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL.
MR. KEN COSGROVE, 72-965 Somera Road, Palm Desert, addressed
Council and read from a prepared statement (attached hereto and
made a part hereof as Exhibit "8").
Upon question by Council, City Attorney Dave Erwin
responded that this was a specific request on behalf of
Mr. Cosgrove to address the City Council. He said the
matter was in litigation in court in which he is the
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plaintiff suing the City and the adjacent property owner.
There is a hearing upcoming on the matter, specifically,
he believed at 9 a.m. on October 16th when some of these
issues would be resolved. He said that if Council decided
to discuss the matter, he requested the dicussion be held
in Closed Session.
MR. JACK DAHLSTROM, 74-090 El Paseo, Palm Desert, addressed
Council as legal counsel for the adjacent property owner
involved and also being sued. He said he did not believe the
issue was a proper one for Council at this time inasmuch as the
speaker had initiated the court proceedings. He said that the
court Injunction that Mr. Cosgrove obtained prevented both the
City and his client from doing any of the things he asked for.
He suggested the court be allowed to resolve the issue.
Mayor Kelly thanked both speakers for the comments, and no action
was taken by the City Council.
B. REQUEST FOR RECONSIDERATION BY MAGIJK PICTURE GRAPHIC
COMPANY FOR CITY'S PURCHASE OF COLOR AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH OF
PALM DESERT AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.
Mr. Magijk, 74-612 Highway 111, Palm Desert, addressed
Council stating that he understood there had been previous
consideration by the Council as to the cost of the photo.
He said that it was six feet by nine feet, and his firm
was one of few in the United States that could produce
such a photo. He said the cost to the City would be
$1,900 plus $141 tax.
Council Comments/Questions:
Snyder: Already used it several times to show
constituents where something was located. Felt it a
valuable tool for the City.
Crites: Thought it might be appropriate to hang it in the
Council Chamber after modifications were completed.
Councilman Snyder moved to approve the purchase and appropriate
$2,041 for same. Councilman Crites seconded the motion, and the motion
carried by unanimous vote.
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NOTE: THIS ITEM WAS ADDED TO THE AGENDA ON SEPTEMBER 18, 1987, AFTER
THE AGENDA WAS POSTED. IT WAS DISCUSSED BY THE COUNCIL AFTER
THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE AGENDA.
C. CONSIDERATION OF COUNCIL ACTION IN OPPOSITION TO THE
COLMAC PROJECT.
Mr. Altman stated that this item had come up after the
Agenda was posted. He said It was an addition to the
Agenda and was posted on September 18, 1987, which was
more than 72 hours prior to the meeting as required by
law.
Councilman Snyder stated that the Coachella Valley
Association of Governments (CVAG) and its cities had
agreed that the building of this project would be a
detriment to the entire Coachella Valley. He said a
meeting had been held that morning with the Environmental
Committee, and an eight -page report had been prepared
which set forth the criteria being used in opposing the
project. He said the opposition to the project must be
submitted in writing no later than October 14th and that
each city was being asked to adopt a resolution of
opposition.
Councilman Crites stated that he had not yet had an
opportunity to review the report but that there appeared
to be some negative impacts.
Councilman Wilson expressed concern that the Council was
being pushed into opposing the project. He said he felt
the report was written from the point of being against
"smoke stacks", etc., and that he had received material
from Colmac which listed some desirable impacts this
project could have. He said he would like to see a little
independent checking into this project and asked if there
would be time for a staff member or two to visit some of
the other Colmac plants to see if there was pollution
being produced.
Councilman Snyder responded that a lot of effort had been
put into doing just what Wilson was talking about. He
said the only opportunity to oppose the project would be
through the EIR because the project itself would be on
Indian land. He added that representatives of South Coast
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Air Quality Management had attended that morning's meeting
and had indicated worse conditions would be created and
that the project would be turned down if it was under
their jurisdiction. He said he did not feel he had been
rushed into this decision.
Councilman Wilson stated he would like to review the
document submitted by South Coast Air Quality Management
before a resolution of opposition was adopted by the
Co-uncil. He said the plant was designed to provide an
alternative source of energy.
Councilmember Benson moved to waive further reading and adopt
Resolution No. 87-89, opposing the Colmac Energy Project, and to direct
staff to forward copies of the resolution to the appropriate agencies.
Motion was seconded by Snyder and carried by a 4-0-1 vote, with
Councilman Wilson ABSTAINING.
XIII. REPORTS AND REMARKS
NOTE: THE REPORTS AND REMARKS SECTION OF THE AGENDA WAS DISCUSSED
AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE MEETING.
A. CITY MANAGER
Mr. Altman reminded everyone that a Closed Session was
scheduled et the completion of the meeting.
B. CITY ATTORNEY
None
C. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
City Council Requests for Action:
i. Consideration of Joint Meetfng with City Council
and Parks & Recreation Commission (Councilman
Buford A. Crites).
Councilman Crites asked that joint City
Council/Parks & Recreation Commission and City
Council/Planning Commission meetings be
scheduled because of the plans under way for the
North Sphere and the Civic Center Master Plan.
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Council concurred that these meetings should be
scheduled by the City Manager's office.
2. Councilman Wilson asked for Council direction
relative to appointing citizens to a committee
to explore alternatives to monopoly control of
television signals in Palm Desert. He said at
the previous Council meeting, he had indicated
that several individuals had come forward and
expressed interest.
After discussion, it was the Council's consensus
that Wilson would be the Council liaison to this
committee and that a press release should be
prepared asking that interested persons contact
the City.
3. Clarification of Process of Approval for Palm
Desert Children's Choir.
Mayor Kelly stated that it was his understanding
that the Council did not want to become involved
in the operation of the Palm Desert Children's
Choir. He said Council's decision earlier in
this meeting was only to appropriate the money
and did not include who would operate the choir.
Councilman Wilson added that the Council had
never formally discussed who would actually be
operating the choir.
Councilman Snyder stated that all the Council
had done was to say it would be nice to have a
children's choir.
After additional discussion, Councilman Wilson moved
to refer this matter to the Civic Arts Committee to put together a
proposal with details as to how the children's choir should be operated.
Motion was seconded by Crites and carried by unanimous vote of the
Council.
o City Council Committee Reports:
None
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XIV. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - B
None
Mayor Kelly recessed the meeting at 6 p.m. for dinner. He
reconvened the meeting at 7 p.m.
XV. COMPLETION OF ITEMS HELD OVER FROM 4:00 P.M. SESSION
Mayor Kelly stated that the Reports and Remarks would be held
until after the Public Hearings. Please see that section for
Council discussion and action.
XVI. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - C
None
XVII. AWARDS, PRESENTATIONS, AND APPOINTMENTS
A. PRESENTATION OF RESOLUTION TO PEOPLE -TO -PEOPLE HIGH SCHOOL
AMBASSADORS DAWN ACKERMAN, AN KIM, AND TED REED.
Mayor Kelly stated that this item should be continued to
the meeting of October 8th so that the entire group of
students could be present. Council concurred.
XVIII. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF THE ISSUANCE OF MASSAGE PERMITS-
KRISTINA M. SMITH AND PATRICK J. SMITH, APPLICANTS.
Mr. Allen reviewed the staff report, noting that the
Sheriff's Department had processed and approved the
permits. He recommended approval.
Mayor Kelly declared the public hearing open and invited
testimony in FAVOR of or OPPOSED to this request. None was
offered. He declared the public hearing closed.
Councilman Crites moved to, by Minute Motion, approve the
request and authorize the issuance of massage permits for Kristina M.
Smith and Patrick J. Smith. Motion was seconded by Wilson and carried by
unanimous vote of the Council.
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B. REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATION OF APPEAL OF PLANNING COMMISSION
DECISION ON AUGUST 18, 1987, DENYING AN EXCEPTION TO THE
HEIGHT OF TWO WALL SIGNS AT ONE ELEVEN TOWN CENTER - MCG
ARCHITECTS, APPELLANT.
Mr. Diaz reviewed the staff report and read Section
25.68.730 of the Zoning Ordinance relative to the height
of wall signs. He said although the City's Ordinance
allowed for a height of 20 feet, the appellant was
requesting a variance allowing two 24-foot wall signs. He
said the signs located at the levels requested by the
appellant would be integrated into the architecture and
would not be detrimental to neighboring business nor to
the community In general. He added that the architect was
present to answer any questions the Council might have.
Upon question by Crites, Mr. Diaz stated that staff was
supporting the granting of this exception and was not in
agreement with the Planning Commission decision. He said
the Commission felt the exception should not be granted,
that the original design of the building should have been
done in such a way as to have the signs at the proper
height, and that the developer should modify the structure
at this time to bring It into conformance with the City's
ordinance.
Councilman Crites asked if there were other options
available to the applicant, such as placing the signs on
the ends of the buildings or lowering them to the 20-foot
level. Diaz agreed that this was possible. Crites asked
whether the Planning Commission was informed that the
staff recommendation did not reflect -Its reasoning in
denying the variance and that a Commissioner might wish to
be present to explain that. Diaz stated that he did not
think the Commission was aware of this.
Mayor Kelly declared the public hearing open and invited
testimony in FAVOR of this request.
MR. BOB McCLELLAN, 199 So. Las Robles, Pasadena, spoke as
the project architect and apologized for having to "come
hat in hand" to ask for a variance after the buildings are
two-thirds complete. He said he was not aware of the
City's policy with regard to sign height until a sign
contractor asked the City for a sign permit. He said the
dimensions were not put on the original plans submitted to
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the City, and it was difficult to to l l that the signs
would be higher than the 20-foot limit. He added that he
did not feel the signs would be detrimental to the
neighborhood businesses.
Mayor Kelly invited testimony in OPPOSITION to this request,
and none was offered. He declared the public hearing closed.
Upon question by Mayor Kelly, Mr. Diaz responded that the
maximum sign height allowed by the ordinance was 20 feet.
Kelly asked If they could put in another facia at 20 feet
in front and still be within the code. Diaz agreed that
it could be done but_ would have to be sent back to the
Architectural Review Commission because it would change
the architecture of the buildings.
Mayor Kelly reopened the public hearing.
Mr. McClellan agreed it was possible for the two stores in
Question to install signs equal to the other stores or at
the ends of the buildings; however, he said they would
probably feel that it was his fault as the architect if
their businesses were not successful due to the height of
the signs.
Councilman Crites stated that if the Council directed that
the signs be lowered by four feet, causing a blank wall
where the signs were to be located, the Architectural
Review Commission could look at softening that blank
space.
Mr. McClellan stated that he felt this would be a major
change.
Mayor Kelly declared the public hearing closed.
Council Comments/Questions:
Snyder: Always concerned with overturning a decision of
the Planning Commission and would like to know the
justification behind its denial of the variance.
Mr. Diaz stated that the one member of the Planning
Commission who spoke felt that: 1) the error was self-
imposed by the architect; and 2) the request was not
warranted and a variance to the C i ty' s sign ordinance
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should, therefore,
unanimously agreed.
not be granted. The Commission
Wilson: Staff's recommendation to approve the request for
variance is saying that because of the setbacks and the
size of the buildings, any impact would be
inconsequential? Diaz agreed. Wilson stated he did not
think the request was unreasonable because the intent was
to make the signage part of the architecture and that he
would be in favor of supporting the request.
Crites: Felt the error on the part of the architect was
unintentional; however, did not believe the legal
requirements for an exception to the ordinance existed.
Snyder: Stated that the Architectural Review Commission
had approved the buildings without realizing It was four
feet off in the size of the signs. Felt that changing the
design of the buildings at this late stage would be very
detrimental. Stated he did not like to have variances to
the sign ordinance, but agreed that sometimes unusual
circumstances did occur.
Benson: Stated this was not a major shopping center and
that she had never seen these types of shops have trouble
attracting customers. Did not believe denying the
variance would cause problems in getting people to the
stores.
Kelly: Felt to change the buildings at this time would be
a disaster. Also felt that with the setbacks'. and the
design of the buildings, it would be detrimental to place
signs in any other area.
Councilman Wilson moved to waive further reading and adopt
Resolution No. 87-86, approving an exception to the height of two wall
signs at One Eleven Town Center. Motion was seconded by Snyder and
carried by a 3-2 vote of the Council. with Benson and Crites voting N0.
C. REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATION OF ACTUAL ASSESSED COSTS FOR
PROPERTY AFFECTED AND BENEFITTED BY THE KELLY ORDINANCE
STREET WIDENING LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF COUNTRY CLUB
DRIVE BETWEEN PORTOLA AVENUE AND COOK STREET.
Mr. Folkers reviewed the staff report. noting that bids
received were below the engineer's estimate.
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Mr. John Wohlmuth, Administrative Assistant, stated that a
letter of opposition had been received from United Savings
and Loan Association which was basically the same as that
submitted when the first public hearing was held on July
23, 1987, to initiate the project. He said this public
hearing was to present the actual costs according to the
low bid.
Mayor Kelly declared the public hearing open and invited
testimony in FAVOR of or OPPOSED to this matter. None was
offered. He declared the public hearing closed.
Councilman Crites moved to waive further reading and adopt
Resolution No. 87-87, awarding the bid, and Resolution No. 87-88,
ordering the work done. Motion was seconded by Snyder and carried by
unanimous vote of the Council.
D. REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN AMENDMENT TO ZONING
ORDINANCE CHAPTER 25.24 PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT
LIMITING PERMITTED USES TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS,
COUNTRY CLUBS, AND OTHER DIRECTLY RELATED ACCESSORY USES.
OTHER LISTED USES, INCLUDING COMMUNITY FACILITIES,
RECREATION, RELATED INSTITUTIONAL FACILITIES, RESORT
HOTELS, AND UTILITY FACILITIES SHALL BE MADE SUBJECT TO A
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
Mr. Diaz reviewed the staff report, noting that under the
current ordinance, it was difficult to deny an
inappropriate "permitted use". He stated that the purpose
of this ordinance amendment was to give staff greater
latitude in potentially denying those uses that are not
residential in nature in planned residential zones.
Mayor Kelly declared the public hearing open and invited
testimony in FAVOR of or OPPOSED to this request. None was
offered. He declared the public hearing closed.
Councilman Crites moved to waive further reading and pass
Ordinance No. 516 to second reading. Motion was seconded by Wilson and
carried by unanimous vote of the Council.
XIX. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - D
None
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XX. ADJOURNMENT
Councilman Crites moved to adjourn to Closed Session at 8:20
p.m. in accordance with Government Code Section 54956.9 (a) and (b). for
the purpose of discussing pending and potential litigation, said Closed
Session to immediately follow adjournment of the Redevelopment Agency
meeting. Motion was seconded by Wilson and carried by unanimous vote of
the Council.
Mayor Kelly reconvened the meeting at 9:20 p.m. and immediately
adjourned the City Council meeting with no action announced.
ATTEST:
SHEILA R. GIk1GAN, CITY,- ERK
CITY OF PALM DESERT, CA I ORNIA
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EXHIBIT "A"
September 24, 2987
Mr. Mayor, wem}lers of the City Council, as a citizen
of Palm Desert, I spend a great deal of time at City
Hall, and as 1.Ju know, much of that time is spent in
these chambers.
Because I cic = ', 'r 1 a great deal cif time in these
chambers and ii;7.17e heard a variety of complaints from
those in attc.ilance, I decided that it was incumbent
upon me as a self appointed representative of the
public, to review the construction documents and to
come before you to express any concerns about the
intended remodel.
So, yesterday afternoon, I reviewed the construction
documents for the proposed remodel of the Council
Chambers. I found several items which I believe should
be brought to staf.f's attention and changed prior to
the documents being put out for re -bid. I would be
happy to meet with staff at any time.
It seems to me that the reason for any proposed
changes here in the chambers should be primarily for
the benefit of the audience. I believe the drawings
reflect an attempt to do just that. However, I feel as
a member of the audience, the proposed changes are not
carried far enough.
Therefore, I would like to explore several items with
you at this time. Those items I would like to cover
are: the sound system; the public T V mounted in the
wall to my left; language I found in the Electrical
specifications; audio-visual solutions; window covers
for daylight use; acoustical materials; protection of
the unfinished mural on the rear wall; isolating the
sound of the roof mounted air conditioners; and last
but not least, clean up responsibility.
Item 1: Sound System
I found no referg ce to any new sound equipment or
the revamping of 'the existing system. Is it
pos' hie that with ;i11 the pr- ems we have with
thi sound system, we are not :;,,ing to make
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Item 2: T V Monitor
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I believe that the relocation of the existing T V
will afford the audience a better opportunity to
observe what is going on, especia:l'y those that
sit on the left side nearest the monitor.
However, I feel a second wall mounted T V on the
opposite wall would afford even more participation
especially from those whose eytts.►c,Ji+t was not a:;
good as it once was.
Item 3: Language on the drawings
Drawing Page a-5, Paragraph F, Item•2, states: Any
Owners equipment that is defective at time of
relocation is not the responsibility of this
contract.
I have a problem with this. Who is to
equipment is defective at the time of
if the building power has been turned
construction? Besides, I would expect
equipment would be removed prior to demolition and
either stored on the premises, or should be
removed by the sub -contractor and stored on his
premises until its time to replace.
Item 4: Audio- visual
say if the
relocation
off during
that this
We all have watch slide show- here with the slide
projector balanced on top of the masonry walls,
while the screen is adjusted so that the audience
could view the slides. Or, someone had to find a
table to sit the overhead projector on. I think we
should take into consideration those problems
we've encountered and find E. remedy. An overhead
recessed screen and possibly a projection room
opposite with a see through window might.he one
solution.
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Item 5: Window covers
It is apparent to those of us who have attended
functions during the daylight hours that some form
of window treatment is needed, especially when the
sun is being reflected into the Chambers while
some form of audio-visual is being shown. Drapes,
similar to those being proposed for the new
conference room, -might be appropriate.
Item 6: Acoustical materials
I am aware that staff has recommended the
documents reflect acoustical materials and their
locations as suggested by the acoustical expert.
I hope those locations include both the dome and
upper wall surfaces. If not, they should be
included since conversation on one side of the
Chamber can be heard on the other side with the
voices bouncing off the ceiling.
Item 7: Protection of the unfinished mural
Nowhere could I find any comments concerning the
protection of our unfinished mural gracing the
rear wall. With the demolition of the masonry
walls, I expect a great deal of dust to be flying
and if special care is not taken, the demolition
could ruin the mural beyond repair.
Item 8: Roof mounted air conditioners
Much has been said in the past about the sound
transmitted into the Chambers every time the
roof mounted air conditioners cycle on and off.
Has any consideration been included in the bid
documents for a better method of isolation.
Correcting this sound transmission would greatly
improve the audio within the Chamber.
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Item 9: Seating
Since the seating is fabric, special precautions
should be taken to protect the fabric surfaces
from the masonry dust that is sure to fly. Draping
a tarp over the backs of the seats will not be
sufficient.
Item 10: Final clean-up
Who is going to be responsible for the final
detail clean-up. The successful contractor or in-
house staff?
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