HomeMy WebLinkAbout1989-10-12MINUTES
REGULAR PALM DESERT CITY COUNCIL MEETING
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 12, 1989
CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
I. CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Wilson convened the meeting at 4 p.m.
ll. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - Councilman Richard S. Kelly
[[I. INVOCATION - Councilmember Jean M. Benson
IV. ROLL CALL
Members Present:
Councilmember Jean M. Benson
Mayor Pro-Tem Buford Crites (arrived late)
Councilman Richard S Kelly
Councilman Walter H. Snyder
Mayor S. Roy Wilson
Also Present:
Bruce A. Altman, City Manager
Carlos L. Ortega, ACM/R.D.A. Executive Director
David J. Erwin, City Attor.ney
Sheila R. Gilligan, City Clerk/P.1.O.
Robert Markey, Acting Director of Finance
Ramon A. Diaz, Director of Community Service/A.C.M.
Richard S. Folkers, Director of Public Works/A.C.M.
Paul Shillcock, ACM/Director of Economic Development
V. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. MINUTES of the Regular City Council Meeting of September
28, 1989.
Rec: Approve as presented.
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B. CLAIMS AND DEMANDS AGAINST THE CITY TREASURY - Warrant
Nos. WR0906, WR0910, WR0912, WR0916.
Rec: Approve as presented.
C. CLAIM NO. 121 AGAINST THE CITY By Frank Tysen in the
Amount of $343.00 for Alleged Damage to His Vehicle.
Rec: By Minute Motion, deny Claim No. 121 and
instruct the City Clerk to so notify the
Claimant.
D. RESOLUTION NO. 89-126 - A Resolution of the City Council
of the City of Palm Desert, California, Setting Forth Its
Findings and Authorizing the Destruction of Files from the
Department of Building and Safety That Have Been
Microfilmed.
Rec: Waive further reading and adopt.
E. REQUEST FOR ACCEPTANCE OF WORK for Contract No. 00-334,
Town Center Way and Goldflower Street Storm Drain
Improvements.
Rec:
By Minute Motion, accept the work as complete
and authorize the City Clerk to file a Notice of
Completion for Contract No. 00-334.
F. REQUEST FOR AWARD OF CONTRACT NO. 00-388 - Hovley
Lane/Monterey Meadows Assessment District Landscape Median
Maintenance.
Rec:
By Minute Motion, award Contract No. 00-388 to
Environmental Care, Inc. in the amount of
$207.50 per month.
G. REQUEST FOR APPROVAL of Extension of Contract No. 00-315
for Landscape maintenance on Cook Street and Country Club
Drive Medians.
Rec:
By Minute Motion, authorize the Mayor to enter
into an agreement with Sunshine Landscape for
$1,775.00 per month.
H. REQUEST FOR _APPROVAL_ of Renewal of Contract No. 00-161
with G. Alan Smith for Project Manager Services.
Rec: By Minute Motion, authorize a one-year extension
of Contract No. 00-161.
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I. REQUEST FOR APPROVAL of Speed Limit Designation on
Monterey Avenue.
Rec:
By Minute Motion, endorse the Rancho Mirage
Speed Limit Study and authorize staff to proceed
with installation of speed limit signs along
Monterey Avenue within the City limits.
J. REQUEST FOR AWARD OF CONTRACT NO. 00-387 - Highway Ill
Frontage Road Median Maintenance.
Rec:
By Minute Motion, authorize the Mayor to sign
Contract No. 00-387 with Environmental Care,
inc. in the amount of $1985.00/month.
K. CONSIDERATION OF SEASONAL RENTAL PROGRAM - SAN TROPEZ
VILLAS.
Rec: No action is necessary at this time.
Upon motion by Snyder, second by Kelly, the Consent Calendar was
approved as presented by a 4-0 vote of the Council; Councilman Crites had
not yet arrived.
VI. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - A
MR. DOUG SIMMONS, General Manager of the Palm Desert Town
Center, addressed Council and presented the Center's check for
$10,000 as its share of the People Mover Study. He said the
Hahn Company was very excited about being part of this unique
program dealing with traffic and circulation in the future. He
said they were proud to be working both with the City and with
Ahmanson Company. He commended the City for taking the lead
into the 21st century.
At this point, Mayor Wilson acknowledged that there were many
residents of the Lakes Country Club in the audience to give
public testimony on the installation of a traffic signal at the
entrance to their country club. He noted that the staff
information had not been ready at the preparation of this
agenda and, therefore, the item did not appear. He said that
as soon as negotiations between the Lakes, Desert Falls, and
the City were complete, the item would be scheduled for City
Council action, and all residents would be notified.
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The following individuals spoke in strong support of the
installation of a traffic signal at The Lakes because of the
traffic hazard created by the increased traffic on Country Club
Drive:
MR. TOM BERNATZ, 24 Lost River Road, Palm Desert. submitted
photos to the City Council as support of his position that a
signal was needed.
MR. BUZZ RANOFF, General Manager of The Lakes Country Club,
also noted that four serious accidents had occurred at that
intersection, two the past week.
MR. SHELDON SHOCK, 303 Appaloosa, Palm Desert, said the
residents of The Lakes Country Club were very affluent and
would be more than willing to help pay for a signal.
MR. EDWARD ETHELL, 310 Running Springs Drive, Palm Desert.
MR. PHIL STAATS, 58 Lost River Road, Palm Desert.
MR. MURRAY NEWMARK, 207 Wild Horse Drive, Palm Desert.
Mr. Altman assured the speakers that he would convene a meeting
within the next week between the City and representatives of
The Lakes Country Club and Desert Falls Country Club. He
advised Council that staff would prepare a report after such a
meeting for presentation on a future agenda.
VII. RESOLUTIONS
None
VIII. ORDINANCES
For Introduction:
None
For Adoption:
A. ORDINANCE NO. 586 - AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF PALM DESERT, CALIFORNIA, ESTABLISHING A
RECYCLED PRODUCT PROCUREMENT POLICY.
Mr. Altman stated that no changes had occurred in this
ordinance since first reading, and he recommended its
adoption.
Upon motion by Kelly, second by Snyder, Ordinance No. 586 was
adopted by unanimous vote of the Councilmembers present.
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IX. CONSENT ITEMS HELD OVER
None
X. NEW BUSINESS
(The record reflects that Councilman Crites arrived at this
point in the Agenda.)
A. CONSIDERATION OF AN APPEAL BY DANIEL F. COHEN FOR CIRCLE K
STORE #321 OF THE REMOVAL OF A LOTTO BANNER.
Mr. Diaz reported that the City's sign ordinance, both
current and newly proposed, prohibited these types of
banners. However, at one point staff had been informed
that State law preempted the City's ordinance, and staff
had discontinued enforcement. Since learning that the
State law did not take precedent, enforcement had been
reinstated, and this appeal was filed as a result of that
enforcement.
Because the new sign ordinance was to be considered in the
Public Hearing portion of the meeting at 7 p.m., Mr. Diaz
recommended a continuance of this matter until after that
discussion.
Councilman Crites moved to table the appeal until the 7 p.m. portion
of the meeting. Councilman Kelly seconded the motion, and it carried by
unanimous vote of the Council. (See Page 35 for City Council action on
this item.)
B. REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN OUTDOOR LIGHT CONTROL
ORDINANCE.
Mr. Diaz noted that the Council had been given a copy of
the La Quinta ordinance, and he recommended that the
Council direct his department to prepare such an ordinance
for the City of Palm Desert. He noted that he had spoken
with Kermit Martin of Southern California Edison so that
Edison could include pertinent comments when the ordinance
was introduced at a later meeting.
Councilman Kelly moved to, by Minute Motion, instruct staff to
prepare the appropriate ordinance and amend the appropriate sections of
the Palm Desert Municipal Code. Councilman Crites seconded the motion.
and it carried by unanimous vote.
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C. CONSIDERATION OF AN APPEAL OF AN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW
COMMISSION DECISION TO DENY A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A
LIGHTED EIGHT -FOOT HIGH AWNING WITH SIGNAGE FOR THE
BUILDING AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF HIGHWAY 111 AND SAN
PABLO.
Mr. Diaz reported that the Architectural Review Commission
had denied this request because it felt that due to the
exposed nature of the subject building, an eight foot high
illuminated awning, needed to cover the mansard roof and
roof -mounted equipment, would be excessive and
overpowering. In addition, the Commission felt that a
structure of this size was no longer an awning but rather
a major architectural feature. There was also some
concern about the amount of light that was used in the
installation.
Councilman Crites said he had a problem with staff's
recommendation to send the matter back to the A.R.C. with
stipulations from Council in light of the fact that it voted 4-
1 to deny the request.
Councilman Kelly said that whatever action was taken, he hoped
the applicant would not abandon what they were trying to do as
he felt it would improve the image of the entire corner.
Mr. Drell stated that the applicant's position was that
the height was needed to screen the roof -top equipment.
Councilman Crites noted that a subcommittee had worked
diligently on amendments to the sign ordinance relative to
awnings, and he did not believe that the Council should now
proceed against those amendments.
Councilman Crites moved to deny the appeal and ask the applicant to
return to the Architectural Review commission with an awning that matches
the signage program currently being used by the City. Councilman Kelly
seconded the motion.
Upon question by Mr. Diaz, Mr. Crites stated the intent of his
motion was that if the matter was not resolved at the Architectural
Review Commission, it would come back to the City Council. Mr. Erwin
suaaested that the motion be reworded.
Councilman Crites moved to amend his motion to state that the matter
be referred back to the Architectural Review Commission for decision
and/or recommendation. If it grants approval, it does not come back to
the City Council unless someone calls it up. Counci'--an Kelly agreed to
the amendment. The motion carried by unanimous vote.`
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D. REQUEST FOR CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION OF OPPOSITION TO
THE RECENT NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES POSITION ON THE HOME
MORTGAGE INTEREST DEDUCTION.
Councilmember Benson said she had asked that this be
placed on the Agenda for consideration.
Mayor Wilson stated that the information contained in the
resolution from Lake Elsinore was inaccurate and had been
disseminated by the Building Industry Association several
months ago. He recommended that staff contact the
National League of Cities to get its input and
recommendation.
Councilman Kelly moved to refer the matter to staff for
investigation, and Councilman Crites seconded the motion. Motion carried
by unanimous vote.
E. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS
1. Update on Palmer CableVision.
Mr. Ortega reported that he had distributed a new
cable complaint 1 i st to the City Council. In
addition, he reported that three new bills had been
introduced by Congress to reregulate cable companies.
He said staff was studying them and would support
those of benefit to the City.
Councilman Kelly noted a three-day conference in
Anaheim on cable legislation and recommended someone
attend. It was resolved that both Councilman Kelly
and Mr. Ortega would attend.
2. Highway 111 - Modification of Median Nose.
Council thanked Mr. Folkers for the report.
XI. CONTINUED BUSINESS
None
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XII. OLD BUSINESS
A. CONSIDERATION OF A SIGN APPROVAL FOR BETTY'S SHOE
BOUTIQUE, 72-785 HIGHWAY 111, PALM DESERT.
Mr. Diaz presented a video and reviewed the staff report
and recommendation. He said that the sign had been
approved by the Architectural Review Commission. If the
Council felt it to be incompatible, it should reverse that
decision and reimburse the applicant for the cost of the
sign since permits were issued.
MR. PETE PETERSON, 72-785 Highway 111, Palm Desert,
addressed council as owner of Betty's Shoe Boutique. He
presented a video of the signage in the shopping center
and stated he felt other signs as shown were similar to
the one he was requesting. He said his was the last
retail store in the center, and he was trying to survive
in business; the sign was necessary.
MS. JOYCE WILKE, Carver Management Company, said her
company had given Mr. Peterson permission for the sign
which they felt was in good taste.
Councilman Crites noted that this sign had been approved by a
staff member and installed prior to its going to the
Architectural Review Commission. He said he had called it up
because it did not conform to the new sign regulations. He
noted that the art gallery adjacent to the shoe store had a
wood sign with external lights on it -- not internally lit can
signs. He said both videos showed him what had been done wrong
in the past and convinced him that the new regulations,
prohibiting these kinds of signs, were good ones.
Councilman Kelly agreed but said he had one problem in that the
Architectural Review Commission had approved it which would
make him cautious in denying it now.
Mr. Diaz pointed out that the sign did meet the code, both the
existing one and the proposed one. He said the matter was one
of aesthetics.
Councilmember Benson said she was the oldest tenant in the
center and felt they had the right idea back when externally
lit wooden signs were required in all leases.
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Mayor Wilson read from the minutes of the Architectural Review
Commission wherein it was stated that the sign program was lost
long before this sign was installed. He agreed and said he
liked the wooden signs that had originally been in there.
Councilman Snyder said the original sign program of the City
had been lost, and he thought it should be restored.
Councilman Crites moved to deny the sign, reimburse the owner for
the cost involved in installing it, and refer the matter to the
Architectural Review Commission to find signage compatible with the
adjacent business. Councilmember Benson seconded the motion. The motion
failed by a 3-2 vote with Councilmembers Benson, Kelly and Wilson voting
NO.
Councilman Kelly moved to affirm the decision of the Architectural
Review Commission and approve the sign. Mayor Wilson seconded the
motion. The motion was defeated by a 3-2 vote with Councilmembers
Benson, Crites, and Snyder voting NO.
Councilmember Benson asked that the record reflect that she was not
against Betty's Shoe Boutique and in fact had enjoyed a good
neighbor relationship with the business for several years.
B. CONSIDERATION OF CITIZEN COMPLAINT RELATIVE TO HACIENDA DE
MONTEREY NORTH SIDE BLOCK WALL.
Mr. Drell reviewed the staff report stating that Hacienda
de Monterey had offered to paint the portions of the wall
being objected to.
Mayor Wilson noted for the record that he had listened to the
portion of the tape dealing with this issue from the previous
meeting as he had been absent. He also noted that he and
Councilman Crites had visited the site
Councilman Crites asked if the individual who had complained at
the last meeting had provided a list of other dissatisfied
homeowners; Mr. Drell responded she had not. Mr. Crites said
he felt Charter Development had gone to great lengths to please
the adjacent property owners and that in fact what they were
looking at now was a big improvement.
Councilmember Benson agreed. She felt that lowering the wall
would be wrong as it enhanced all properties.
MR. NORM REYNOLDS, Charter Development Company, said he would
go on record again that his company was willing to attempt to
mitigate any problems with adjacent property owners. He noted
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that a number of property owners were in fact happy with the
wall. He said that for one property, that of Keiger Barton,
the wa l l had been lowered one block. He said his problem was
the wall was constructed one and one-half years ago and doing
anything about it now was difficult. He presented Council with
pictures of the wall and adjoining properties.
Mayor Wilson asked if Ms. Day was in the audience to speak, and
she was not.
Councilmembers Kelly and Snyder both stated they felt it was
wrong to ask Charter to now paint the wall.
Councilman Crites moved to take no action on the matter inasmuch as
the applicant has met all conditions of approval of the project as it
relates to the wall. Councilman Snyder seconded the motion, and it
carried by unanimous vote.
XIII. REPORTS AND REMARKS
A. CITY MANAGER
Mr. Altman introduced the City's two new Administrative
Assistants, Ray Janes of the Redevelopment Agency and Tom
Bassler of Public Works.
B. CITY ATTORNEY
Mr. Erwin advised the Council of a need for Closed Session
as listed under the Adjournment section of the agenda.
C. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
o City Council Reguests for Action:
1 Request for Approval of Historical Document
Gallery in Council Chamber - Councilmember Jean
M. Benson.
Councilmember Benson stated that several of the
Council had received old newspapers over the
years which reflected some historic moments for
the City. She suggested approving the purchase
of some type of display box for these at the
rear of the Council Chamber.
Staff was directed to look into the costs associated
with such a purchase and report ba to the Council.
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o City Council Committee Reports:
1. Sunline Trolley - Councilman Richard S. Kelly.
Councilman Kelly showed a newspaper picture of
the new trolleys purchased by Palm Springs and
noted that he would have one available for
Council to see at 3:30 p.m. the afternoon of the
next meeting, October 26.
2. Councilman Kelly reported that he had just
attended an excellent recycling conference and
was proud to report that Palm Desert was a
leader in the field. He noted many bill=, before
the State legislature that we should be tracking
and supporting, including those at the Federal
level dealing with tax incentives to those
businesses participating in recycling programs.
3. Councilman Crites stated he had met the day
before with Mayor John Pena of LaQuinta who had
stated he felt the Valley's cities needed to
start sharing new ideas of concern to all
entities
4. Councilman Crites stated that the College of the
Desert's class on Humanity and Environment had
asked for and received a presentation by Phil
Drell. He said Mr. Drell had done an
outstanding job and had received many
compliments from the students. He thanked him.
XIV. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - B
MR. DAN EHRLER, Executive Director of the Chamber of Commerce,
addressed Council and expressed his appreciation for the
excellent job staff had done at the conference at the Marriott.
He said that both the City and Ahmanson Company had done a very
professional job in promoting the City.
Upon motion by Crites, second by Snyder, and unanimous vote of the
Council, Mayor Wilson recessed the meeting at 6 p.m. for dinner. He
reconvened the meeting at 7 p.m.
XV. COMPLETION OF ITEMS HELD OVER FROM 4:00 P.M. SESSION
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XVI. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - C
1. Any person wishing to discuss any item not otherwise on
the Agenda may address the City Council at this point by
stepping to the lectern and giving his/her name and
address for the record. Remarks shall be limited to a
maximum of five minutes unless additional time is
authorized by the City Council.
2. This is time and place for any person who wishes to
comment on non -hearing Agenda items. It should be noted
that at City Council• discretion, these comments may be
deferred until such time on the Agenda as the item is
discussed. Remarks shall be limited to a maximum of five
minutes unless additional time is authorized by the City
Council.
XVII. AWARDS, PRESENTATIONS, AND APPOINTMENTS
None
XVIII. PUBLIC HEARINGS
With Council concurrence, Mayor Wilson changed the order of the
agenda to accommodate the many people present to address the
North Sphere Plan.
C. REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF NORTH SPHERE SPECIFIC PLAN AND
NEGATIVE DECLARATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.
Mr. Diaz presented a video of the area in question and
reviewed the staff report and recommendation. He noted
that no rezoning would take place as a result of this
specific plan; those cases would be dealt with
individually and in public hearings as they arose. He
concluded by recommending Council's approval of the plan.
Mayor Wilson declared the Public Hearing open and invited
testimony in FAVOR of the plan; none was offered. He invited
testimony in OPPOSITION to the plan, and the following spoke:
MR. WAYNE GURALNICK, 74-309 Highway 111, Palm Desert,
spoke as legal counsel for the homeowners of Palm Desert
Resorter. While they did not oppose the plan in general,
the specifically opposed the proposed zoning of Service
Industrial currently being considered on the land across
from their club and under the County of Riverside's
jurisdiction. He requested that land be designated Office
Professional. He also emphasized protection of the scenic
corridor along Country Club Drive.
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MR. JOHN AGISH, 41-946 Preston Lane, Palm Desert, opposed
the proposed County zoning of Service Industrial. Said he
had started a petition drive against it and now had over
300 signatures. Asked that Council protect the scenic
corridor and their property values.
MR. RICK WALKER, Equity Directions, 77-600 Country Club
Drive, Palm Desert. said he was the developer of the
property across from the Resorter. He said they were
putting upscale landscaping along the scenic corridor and
that his project was going to be the highest quality
corporation development in the desert.
MR. BOB ROCCO, 1215 Jupiter Hills Court,Palm Desert,
opposed the rezoning of land to Service Industrial. Said
he had moved here for a change of life style and the
proposed zoning would destroy that.
MARY STROISNEIDER, 4179 Preston, Palm Desert, opposed the
rezoning to Service Industrial because of the increase in
noise and traffic it would produce.
Mayor Wilson noted that the property being considered for
rezoning to Service Industrial was not within the City of Palm
Desert but rather the County of Riverside. He suggested the
residents contact the East Area Planning Commission of the
County with their objections to this rezoning.
MR. BILL CARVER, 555 South Palm Canyon Drive, Palm
Springs, spoke as a property owner in the North Sphere and
one who had worked on the proposed plan for the last five
years. He said the plan addressed all of his concerns
except one that required 100 acres of land to qualify for
development as Planned Community Development zoning. He
urged it be reduced to 50 acres. Mr. Diaz responded tnat
staff too felt that it should be reduced to 50 acres.
With no further testimony offered, Mayor Wilson declared the
Public Hearing closed.
Council Comments:
Crites: Felt that City should find reasonable use of land that
is as closed to existing zoning as to give the least amount of
change - R-1 to R-3, for example. He felt that the Regency
Palms and Palm Valley Country Club were proof that R-I is
reasonable for the area. Complimented report for including
street widenings and added that Cook Street needs to be wihenNd
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to six lanes. Plan should include a master plan for medians
and landscaping. Questioned whether enough land had been set
aside for park land as well as land for flyways and overpasses.
Kelly: Felt the requirement of 100 acres for Planned Community
Development was too high. Thought control of it could be
through the zoning ordinance. Felt the land across from the
Resorter should be reexamined to see if something between
residential and industrial zoning could be found that would
mitigate residents' concerns. Concerned that Portola was being
left out as a major traffic carrier as he felt it was a street
most residents use. Saw no mention in the plan of the mid -
valley parkway
Benson: Thought some zoning could be found that would be more
compatible but did not think it should be residential,
especially if the County's proposal to haul trash to Eagle
Mountain was approved because the trains would be running
constantly behind that property. Did not want apartments in
there either. Felt that the single -story buildings such as
those found on Cook Street were the nicest looking in the City.
Snyder: Sympathized with the residents of the Resorter and
agreed that Country Club Drive needed to be preserved as a
scenic corridor. Felt property closer to the freeway was a
problem as to what zoning it should be.
Wilson: Didn't know what the City could do about the property
across from the Resorter as it is in the County. If the City
were to consider annexation, it must be prezoned; in order to
prezone it, it must be consistent with the plan. Felt it could
be shown as R-2. With regard to the scenic corridor, felt it
would be protected as development occurred.
Councilman Crites said he preferred that the land be annexed at
its existing zoning which would allow an applicant to make a
request for a change of zone. Mr. Altman noted that the
residents would have to petition the City for annexation before
any process could begin to do so.
Mr. Diaz suggested a dual designation for this property of
Office Professional, Service Industrial, and Residential-3.
The specific zoning could then be decided after annexation and
when a development for the land was proposed. Councilman
Snyder agreed that this would leave us .in consort with the
County.
Diaz Response to Council Questions: Park 8 Recreation
Commission should review the plan and loo- t the 25 acres for
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a park plus the 30 acres. Plan should not preclude us from
acquiring other park land as it is needed. Felt that if it was
the Council's desire to have flyways, it should be so stated at
this time in the plan. He cautioned, however, that it may be
difficult to require land dedication for these. Said Master
Plan of Landscaping can be developed; staff was attempting to
accomplish it throughout the City and not just in the north
sphere. Noted that sufficient right-of-way was available to
make Cook Street six lanes but that Portola was predesignated
at four lanes. Dinah Shore between Monterey and Portola is
designated as four lanes as well.
Crites: For the record, said it should be noted that Council
was talking about a 25-acre park in the North Sphere in
addition to the 30 acres which totals 55 acres.
Kelly: Proposed setting aside six locations for potential fly
overs; said it would never be done if it were not included in
this plan. Locations suggested were: Monterey Avenue and
Gerald Ford Drive, Monterey Avenue and Frank Sinatra Drive,
Monterey Avenue and Cook Street, Cook Street and Frank Sinatra
Drive, Cook Street and Country Club Drive, and Cook Street and
Hovley Lane.
Councilman Crites moved to waive further reading and adopt
Resolution No. 89-122 amended to include: That the area directly to the
north of the Palm Desert Resort Country Club be dual designated R-
1/O.P./S.I., that the six locations of Monterey Avenue and Gerald Ford
Drive, Monterey Avenue and Frank Sinatra Drive, Monterey Avenue and Cook
Street, Cook Street and Frank Sinatra Drive, Cook Street and Country Club
Drive, and Cook Street and Hovley Lane be set aside for possible use for
fly -over type intersections, and that the Planned Community Development
be reduced from 100 acres to 50 while maintaining the same standards of
the zoning. Councilman Kelly seconded the motion, and it carried by
unanimous vote.
Mayor Wilson declared a five-minute recess.
B. CONSIDERATION OF REQUEST FOR CERTIFICATION OF
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT, APPROVAL OF GENERAL PLAN
AMENDMENT, CHANGE OF ZONE, AMENDMENT NO. 5 TO THE
REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PROJECT AREA NO. 1, AND DEVELOPMENT
AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND AHMANSON COMMERCIAL
DEVELOPMENT COMPANY (CASE NOS. GPA89- 1 , C/Z89- 1 , Z0A89- 1__)_.
(Continued from the meeting of September 28, 1989.)
Wilson: The next public hearing Is consideration of a
request for certification of Environmental Impact Report,
Approval of General Plan Amendment, Change of Zone.
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Amendment No. 5 to the Redevelopment Plan for Project Area
No. 1, and Development Agreement between the City and
Ahmanson Commercial Development Company, a hearing that
has been continued from our meeting of September 28, 1989.
For the record, 1 would like to state that I was not in
attendance at the meeting of September 28, 1989. Since
that time I have listened to the tape that was recorded of
that hearing and I also read the transcript, verbatim
transcript, of that hearing and feel that I am apprised of
the issues that were discussed at the last meeting.
The public hearing is still open but 1 will first ask the
staff for a report and a response to issues raised at the
last meeting.
Diaz: Yes, Mr. Mayor and members of the Council. The
proposal that you have before you is a culmination of a
lot of months of work and effort. Actually, we can say a
lot of years of work and effort, the beginnings of which
were the Year 2000 committee's work in the commercial area
and that Year 2000 plan calling for the City of Palm
Desert to retain its preeminence in the retail commercial
area as well as a resort commercial destination area.
Also, the Economic Development Advisory Committee has
worked with the developer and applicant in reviewing the
proposal, and they have recommended approval. The
Planning Commission's public hearing process, where they
recommended approval, not necessarily in the same manner
as I will get to as far as the circulation is concerned.
In addition, presentations have been made to the Chamber
of Commerce and the El Paseo Merchants' Association. And
finally your Core Commercial Plan called for, which was
adopted by the City, called for rethinking and reanalysis
of the particular parcels under consideration,
Particularly along Highway 111.
Some of the key issues that were brought up at the last
hearing, and of course, one was which alternative with
regards to the future of Painters Path. There seemed to
be consensus among the members of the Council that
alternative B or this alternative that does not have a
connection across the Channel with Painters Path would be
the preferable of the alternatives as opposed to having
Painters Path a through street. There was some discussion
of the possibility of, at the time of development, some
kind of interconnect bridge between these two projects and
your discussions today should lead us or let staff know
exactly what is proposed here. With regards to this
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interconnect, you have a letter from legal counsel for Mr.
George Fox that was submitted today indicating that if the
Alternative B is adopted, there could be possible
litigation as a result of that because he needs that for
access. I might indicate to the Council that at the time
we were reviewing that particular plan, that access was
not shown as necessary for that development. If it had
been, we might have looked differently at that particular
development. However, as far as the access to that
particular property is concerned and those easements, it
is staff's feeling that is a private matter between the
property owner and that we should make the decision that,
I'm sure that we will make the decision that we feel is in
the best interests of the City of Palm Desert with or
without the threat of litigation.
The other issues that arose was with regards to the parcel
at Town Center Way and Fred Waring Drive and the uses that
would be proposed along Fred Waring. At this particular
point in time, we do not have specific developments or
development plans before us. Those, again, would be
subject to further public hearing and additional hearings.
It would be staff's recommendation that we indicate that
in terms of this particular parcel that along Fred Waring
Drive that at the time of application, that the applicant
develop this in a manner that will not duly impact Fred
Waring in terms of aesthetic concerns as well as impact it
in terms of intensity of development. One of the key
items within this plan and proposal, of course, is the
item of the people mover, which is currently under study
by a firm, and you received a first check for $10,000
today from the Town Center. The applicant has also agreed
to pay for $10,000 of that study, and of course the City
is paying for the other third. And that particular study
will result in terms of the overall plan of a people mover
to connect the entire commercial area, which would have a
significant effect in terms of traffic flow and
interchange of people moving from one area and one center
to the other. The applicant will be conditioned to pay
his fair share of the cost of implementing that. He does
not object to that and that will be in the f i na l
development agreement that you will have before you.
In terms of El Paseo, an issue that arose at the last
meeting was how that Sun Lodge Colony was going to be
developed. Again, that would be subject to the precise
plan of design for that particular site and it will be
developed in a manner that is obviously compatible with
our overall long-range goals and objectives and compatible
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with the type of development that is now occurring and
complementary to the type of development which is now
occurring along El Paseo in implementation of our overall
goals to make El Paseo one of the best shopping streets,
not only in the State but in the Nation.
Staff would at this time like to state that, I think the
purpose of the hearing this evening is first of all to
conclude the environmental impact report comment period so
that we can then at your next meeting present the response
to those comments for your consideration. Obviously, the
Council can then discuss those response to comments, but
that would conclude then the comment period to the
environmental impact report and to bring out any specific
issues or concerns that had not been brought out at the
previous meeting. And looking at the hour, that would
conclude the staff report.
Wilson: Are there any questions of staff before I take
testimony?
Crites: Do I then assume that responses to all the
specific inquiries that we made two weeks ago will come
two weeks from now?
Diaz: Yes, your inquiries would be specifically addressed
at that time.
Crites: But they'll be addressed after the opportunity
for the public to comment on those responses is over?
Diaz: The, yes, the purpose of CEQA is you have the draft
environmental impact report, the comments to those
reports, and the response to comments. We do not have an
endless series then of comments to the response and
response to those comments. If the Council so wishes, at
that particular point in time wishes to reopen the comment
period, it can do so.
Crites: Okay, thank you.
Wilson: Okay, thank you. The public hearing is open. 1
would like to, again, make it clear that we would first
like to have all public comment address the environmental
impact report. After we have gotten all of the testimony
on the environmental impact report from the public, give
the Council another chance to discuss that, and I would
like to close that public hearing on the environmental
impact report and continue to take testimony then on the
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oronosed change of zone. development agreement, and the
other aspects of this complex project.
Ortega_ Mr. Manor, this part of the hearing should be in
conjunction with the Redevelopment. You remember that...
Wilson: Thank you very much. Before we take testimony. I
would l i ke to call the Redevelopment Agency meeting to
order and ask the City Clerk to call the roll.
Gilligan: Member Benson.
Benson: Present.
Gilligan: Vice Chairman Crites.
Crites: Present.
Gilligan: Member Kelly.
Kelly: Here.
Gi_1 l i qan :_ Member Snyder.
Snyder: Here.
G_ill_iaan: Chairman Wilson.
Wilson: Here.
Okay, we are sitting as two bodies at the moment. the City
Council of Palm Desert and the Palm Desert Redevelopment
Agency.
We'll take testimony now from anyone who wishes to add
additional comments on the environmental impact report.
Yes, Mr. Simon?
Simon: Mr. Mayor and City Councilmembers, my name is
Gregory Simon. I'm Director of Ahmanson Commercial
Development, 11111 (1 always have to remember it's five
l's) Santa Monica Blvd., Suite 2127, Los Angeles 90025. 1
lust wanted to start our comment period in the same manner
in which Mayor Pro-Tem Crites closed the last meeting, and
that was in a very up. very thoughtful. and a very
positive manner. Since the last meeting, our staff has
been meeting rather intensively with not only the City
staff but with our consultants in addressing the very
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thoughtful issues that were raised. And we looked forward
to being able to conclude the public comment section
tonight in order that we can finalize and deal in its
entirety with the comments relative to the EIR. We have
very positive attitudes and responses to a presentation
that was made on the people mover. It's genuinely
exciting. I've had a chance to talk to Mayor Wilson about
how we hope to be able to cooperate in getting the right
type of people out here to give us their expertise. In
addition and in the interim since our last meeting, Palm
Desert has been the host to the International Council of
Shopping Center, a deal -making session for the Western
United States which is that everybody who would like to
talk about having a tenant come in and serve their
community fortunately all those tenants and merchants came
to Palm Desert and from this position decided where they
would like to go. And obviously we were able to garner a
very strong interest in a broad base of the retail
community to serve this valley, and I think in particular
Palm Desert stands highest among that. Thank you for your
time.
Wi1_son:_ Thank you for your comments. Additional
testimony addressing the environmental impact report?
Perrier: Yes. my name is Allen Perrier, and my address is
226 Santa Barbara in Palm Desert. And I'm here to state
on behalf of Mr. Fox, he was unable to be here this
evening and asked that I appear. And I did, this
afternoon, deliver to the City Clerk a letter that
apparently you have. And 1 would just sort of like to
suggest that 1 think it's really time to sit back and to
understand that the Fox Canyon project is very
significantly impacted by this concern that we have with
respect to the circulation element, which 1 understand to
be that the s i qn i f i cant matter or at least one of the
significant matters of your concern of the environmental
impact report. And we had understood, Mr. Fox had, that a
Painters Path, as far as the proposal as the developer was
concerned, was to be bridged at the Channel and that
Painters Path would, in fact, be completed as a public
street as it now is a public street in the City. I made
some inquiry. 1 don't believe that there's been anything
clone to vacate the public character of Painters Path. so
it is a public street.
Secondly. the Fox Canyon property_ has a 60 foot easement
from the property to Highway 111 as it was several years
ago. which is Painters Path. And it's a very valuable
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right, and it has always been Mr. Fox's intent and while I
haven't had a chance to review the proceedings there has
always been an understanding that access to the property
would be from Highway 11l as well as the north side.
That's something we can delve into, but in my personal
discussions with Mr. Fox, that's always been e factor. So
the point 1 would 1 i ke to bring out that 1 ' m here trying
to speak in some respects on behalf of the future owners
of that project. While it has had some controversy with
respect to it, I think it's a fact that it will be
developed and it's I believe in everybody's best interest
that it be developed to its finest quality possible. And
in my judgment that means reasonable access through this
property, and it ought to be something that you can be
proud of as far as access is concerned to the property.
You know, the players in some respects are still the same.
It's the Ahmanson Company that sold off the property to
Mr. Fox's predecessor, has granted the easement to
Painters Path. And they're now in, and I believe they've
got an obligation of good faith and fair dealing to deal
w ith us in a reasonable manner with respect to that
property. And that's a position I'll advocate and while
that is a matter of, private matter, the fact that
Painters Path is a public street and that our access is to
Painters Path puts the City into the arena because the
developer, I believe, made a reasonable request for the
bridging of Painters Path. It seems to me it was
recommended to you by the Planning Commission. I'm not an
e xpert on traffic, traffic standards, or what is
beneficial to the City, but it just seems to me and I am a
citizen of the City, that it would make sense that there
be some fashion in some manner that the El Paseo traffic
could travel to the commercial development on the west
side of the Channel without going onto Highway 111. I
think that makes some sense, so as you get into this give
some thought about Mr. Fox's easement, the rights of the
people to have sensible access to their lots as they're
going to be developed in the future. So, that's rea l l y
all I have to say unless you have some questions.
W ilson: I have a question, Mr. Perrier.
Perrier: Certainly.
Wilson: I'm a little unclear. The easement that the Fox,
or that Mr. Fox has with the property owner runs...
Perrier: May I show you?
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Wilson: Would you point it out please?
Perrier: (unable to hear clearly)
W ilson: Could you hand Mr. Perrier the microphone and
also.
Perrier: ...60 foot easement and it joins Painters Path.
And that's where the easement is.
W ilson: In other words, regardless of how we decide on
this, the people in that area do have access to the City
of Palm Desert down to Painters Path, down Painters Path
to Fred Waring Drive. and then out to Highway 111. Is
that correct?
Perrier: Right, and (unclear)...Painters Path was the
Highway 111, which provided significantly better access
that it does now. And we believe they have an obligation
of good faith and fair dealing to be fair with us at this
time to provide us the same access. That's why we think,
frankly, they're obligated to seek to bridge Painters Path
in out behalf.
Wilson: Mr. Crites.
Crites: I'm amazed at how perceptions of what's good for
folk change. Some years ago when Mr. Fox was a weekly
visitor to our city concerning Fox Canyon, he spoke
eloquently of keeping all of the traffic out of that area
and sealing all that off from Painters Path and so on and
so forth. And that he wished to use the existing bridge
that crosses up near the little tennis court area, which
is to the south of his project, as his primary access. I
remember sitting_ at this side of the desk with Mr. Fox at
that side and hearing Mr. Fox earnestly proclaim the
usefulness of the rural access so that people were not
pothered by traffic. etc., etc., etc. Now I'm sure that
you will be diligent in going back through the transcripts
and looking for all those comments and so on and so forth.
But I'm .lust at least remarking that the flavor of this,
the flavor of that. had the flavor of entirely different
meals.
Perrier: Well, my recollection is that access in both
d irections was required by the City. That's my
recollection of the facts. So... But, that, you know.
I'm sure we can find out and all I'm saying is if you had
your choice of the access to your lot, my question would
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rr whic--h i rr w i ;I volt Prefer? And 1'! se .
`hn ; fllt;lrr- nwnerc. of the l of s , f think hh� h ,n �r ;
t`-!thwav 1 1 1 arP measurably ben“:F i r : ,
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Wi 1 -or! Thank v.-;u. Mr. Prrr. ier. for volir
think th i s additional input we will take undo ,; ;•�:, �
when we ,sddress that issue of Plan A or B. The next
additional testimony on the environmental impact report?
Seeing none, I will ask the Council if they have any
additional questions or comments on the environmental
impact report.
Kelly: 1 guess I have to make sure my comments fit into the
environmental impact report?
Wilson: We'll let Mr. Diaz tell you...
Ke l 1 �: He'll to l 1 me if they don't. One of the things that
came up at the Recycling Conference, well on recycling, but
came up at the Recycling Conference that has never come uo at
any other conference that I've been to on that particular
subject, that is with all the new laws it is imperative that
recycling be addressed in all zoning ordinances, which needs to
be included in these zoning ordinances. Probably. that's an
environmental impact. Where it fits in and how it fits in I
don't know.
Wilson:.. 1 guess the question directed to staff is to whether
or not that appropriately belongs in the EIR or part of the
development agreement, some kind of...
Diaz: We can address that in the general response to the
comment and obviously we're working on the recycling within the
zoning ordinance that would apply to this project anyway.
Kelly: And another mitigation to the traffic along with the
people mover is other public transportation and proper turnouts
and conditions that encourage people to use public
transportation.
Wilson: Is that so noted?
Diaz: Yes.
Wilson: Mrs. Benson, do you have any additional EIR comments
or questions?
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Benson: No, I don't have anything additional.
Wilson: Mr. Crites, I don't see how you could have anything
additional after listening to your exhaustive (unclear) last
week, but we'll ask you anyway.
Crites: 1 just have this five page summary of more, no. Those
few comments from last week suffice.
Wilson: Mr. Snyder.
Snyder: My comments last week were sufficient.
W i_ 1 son_ In that case, I will hereby close the public hearing
on the environmental impact report and direct staff to prepare
appropriate responses and bring them back to us at our meeting
in two weeks, if that's possible.
Diaz: Yes, we will.
Wilson: With that, I'll now, we still have...
Crites: Excuse me, one question. Is that sufficient time, I
mean, we don't need to have this back in two weeks just to find
out that it's really not done in a way that tends to the
business to where we have to do it another time after that and
so on and so forth. Does staff have a preference for two weeks
or four weeks in terms of the preparation of getting this job
done and getting it done well for Ahmanson, for the City, for
the Council, for the whole works?
Diaz_:
weeks.
We believe that we can respond to the comments in two
Wilson: Thank you. The public hearing is still open on the
remaining issues dealing with this project, and those are the
approval of the General Plan Amendment, Change of Zone.
Amendment to Redevelopment Plan for Project Area No. 1, and
Development Agreements between the City and the Ahmanson
Commercial Development Company. We will now take testimony in
FAVOR of those remaining aspects.
Ehrler: Mr. Mayor. members of the City Council. Dan
Ehrler with the Palm Desert Chamber of Commerce, Executive
Vice President. On behalf of the Palm Desert Chamber
Board of Directors, 1 just wanted to reiterate what was In
our communication to you some months ago. After a very
extensive presentation by the Ahmanson Company to a joint
meeting of our Board of Directors, Business Economic
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Development Committee, and our Civic Affairs Committee, at
which the presentation was made, the concept was
presented, and then the Board took the action to support
that concept for the implementation of this plan. And 1
just wanted to reiterate that. I believe that that
communication was a part of, if I'm not mistaken Ray, a
part of that EIR too, wasn't it?
Diaz: Yes, I believe it was.
Ehrler: 1 believe that was a part of that report as well,
that written comment and then you've also received it
before. So I just wanted to reiterate that support on
behalf of the Board of Directors. I think the Ahmanson
Company has demonstrated its commitment to the community
to do the best they can to work out whatever arrangements
will be most beneficial to the entire community, and they
are to be commended for that and as the Chamber looks at
it, we think it will be ultimately a very beneficial
project for years to come. Thank you.
Wilson: Thank you very much. Next person who would like
to give testimony in FAVOR of the proposals before us.
Powers: Mr. Mayor and members of the City Council, I'm
Bi11 Powers, Chairman of the El Paseo Business
Association. We are in support of the Ahmanson project.
As a matter of fact, on October 5th, we passed a
resolution, which I'll read to you, and I have copies for
the members.
"At the October 5th, 1989, meeting of the Board of
Directors of the El Paseo Business Association, the Board
voted its unanimous support of the Ahmanson Development
Sun Lodge project on El Paseo as well as the balance of
their developments along Highway 111. By its resolution
of support, the Board hopes this project will serve as a
centerpiece for a strong and vibrant El Paseo." And as a
member and Chairman of that Association, we look favorably
on this project because it will add to what has been
mentioned earlier about El Paseo being the class act of
the desert and possibly California and maybe even tie
Nation. We hope that would be what could happen. But
it's the vitality and the synergism and everything else
it all tying together that makes a lot of sense for us.
and we endorse it completely.
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Wilson: Thank you very much, Mr. Powers. Additional
testimony in FAVOR? Seeing none, I'll call for testimony in
OPPOSITION.
Perrier: I would like to have the statements that 1 made
previously made a part of the record as far as this matter
is concerned and would ask that since apparently your
consideration does include circulation, I don't see how
and 1 don't understand what proposal you're making for the
circulation on the west side of the Channel. I see no
public roads or anything or an acknowledgement of the
existence of Painters Path. That's my only comment.
Thank you.
Wilson: Thank you. Additional testimony in OPPOSITION? For
the record, did Mr. Perrier state his name for the tape? Mr.
Perrier, who previously spoke and gave his address, just spoke.
Name and address.
Stake:_ I'm Joanne Stage at Sandpiper. I have one quick
question. How many lots does Mr. Fox intend to develop?
Could 1 just ask that just as a personal?
Unknown: 58.
Stage: 58. So, okay. There are 306 units at Sandpiper
that we're concerned about and of course then on up
Edgehill there are quite a number of other units thatare
very deeply concerned about the traffic flow. And I came
up with an idea, he it good or bad, and 1 ' m going to
present it again. And I don't, I really didn't understand
Plan 1 of the Ahmanson plan that well, and I'd really like
to see it again. I guess it's been vetoed and it was
mainly because we didn't want the bridge over the Wash
because we really feel strongly that we don't want more
traffic on that area.
Wilson: 1'd like to correct the record. It hasn't been vetoed
at this point. I think the consensus from the last meeting was
that they favor the other proposal, but until the matter comes
to a vote it's still on the table.
Sta_ae: Well 1 was just talking with the representative
from the Ahmanson group and I just thouaht maybe that was
something that we sort of tabled. But. . may 1 just show
you something ,lust on the map?
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W il son :_ We'll give you a microphone here that you can use.
please. Please use the microphone because we are taping those
proceedings.
Stage:_ Alright. When we had a mild rainstorm recently.
the flood channel did its bit I guess, but an awful lot of
the City will tell you of dirt and rocks and so on that is
stacked against the channel and against Edgehill washed
down onto Edgehill. It was a real mess, and a dangerous
one. My proposal is that somehow that area be walled,
that there be consideration for some sort of a wall, and a
wider street at Edgehill giving a service road of a sort
to Edgehill, with a stop sign. I'm sorry you're not able
to see this... with a stop sign at this very dangerous
corner of Painters Path and Edgehill and a divided road.
There's almost room, there's room for an ample two-lane
road here now. But if this bank along Edgehill were
cleared and the road were widened, there could be two
roads, two lanes, and there could be a service road all
along this area, which I would think might be a serious
consideration that hasn't been discussed at this point.
That's Edgehill. Then, turning here at this very bad
point, which is a big consideration, here you have not
developed anything yet. And they've talked of giving
Sandpiper a park, they've talked about putting up a wall,
one thing or another. There is quite a wide, Painters
Path is quite wide actually. And El Paseo has dividing
islands that are even wider than the road, so that if this
area were widened for a two -land road, since they're going
to have an access road coming out of their new
development, and if we were to have a service road along
Sandpiper so that that would run not only for the good of
the Sandpiper but mainly, yeah, for really for the good of
Sandpiper. And, but it would also continue on up Edgehill
for the good of the people that live along Edgehill who
have built there for years in good faith, and there are
many of them, many more than fifty. I think that might be
something to consider, where right now there is land
available to do that. The worst, one of the worst spots
in our whole Palm Desert area was created when there was
an access road coming out of TGI Fridays and The
Wherehouse and all the rest of it, right onto El Paseo.
There's no way to have good traffic control there, and
they zip across there into E1 Paseo, and they zip across
there onto Painters Path, and that I said last time. But
I've given it a lot of thought, and I do think th i s
extension might be interesting.
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Crites: Would you be willing to take your innovative idea and
visit with Mr. Diaz tomorrow about that?
Stage: Yeah, 1'd really like to do that. I didn't know
who to see, but I will be glad to.
Wilson: Mr. Diaz and Mr. Folkers both, I think.
Stage: Thank you.
Crites: We need to look at every option we can come through
with and see what and evaluate them.
Wilson: Additional testimony in OPPOSITION?
Stage: My name is Don Stage, and I can't let my wife get
the last word. I have, I'm really not in opposition to
this project at all. I just want to clarify that we're
talking about Plan B or Plan 2, which does not include a
bridge. I was at the hearings when Mr. Fox was here, and
1 specifically stood here and said "are you going to put a
bridge across the wash?", and they said, the Council at
that time said "No, we're not." Now, this gentleman
understood they were going to have a bridge. I don't
know. Maybe the tapes will show. But that was my
understanding. And I see no reason in the world or the
only reason to put a bridge across there to take care of
58 people on Fox Canyon. And I don't know that I'll live
long enough to see that many people up on the hill. I
hope not. Thank you.
Wilson: Thank you. Additional testimony in OPPOSITION?
Evers: I'm Dave Evers, 72450 Manzanita Drive. We live
just across the street from Travelers Inn there on Fred
Waring. And I'm not opposed to it, but I do have a
concern about where 111 meets and Fred Waring, across from
Reuben's Restaurant and Flying J gas station. Well we
live right behind there, and we've, they've used that,
where (unclear) development was going to put a farmers
market there. And they've been using that for parking
for, well, the worst problem we have is CalTrans. When
they were in there widening Highway 111 and when Travelers
Inn came in and the Wash was there and One Qua i 1 and the
Mall. And we've been, the dust has, you know. But we're
not against this, unless they're going to park there. If
they use that for a parking area, then we are.
Wilson: We will so note that.
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Evers: Okay, so they won't be traveling back and forth
and rollers won't be going down our street any more, and
trucks, and... We've got all kinds of pictures. So
anytime you want to see them let us know. Thank you.
Wilson: Thank you for your input. Additional testimony,
please? Anyone in OPPOSITION? Is there anyone else. Yes,
sir.
Dresser: Good evening. My name is Dan Dresser, and I
live at 43-900 Joshua Road in Palm Desert here. And I'd
just like to reiterate what my neighbor just said because
it was just awful and it was 1 i ke 1 i v i ng in a truck st".on
and so, as long as they don't park there 1 don't have
anything against it either. Okay?
Wilson: Thank you for your input. Any additional testimony?
Seeing none. then I will call on the applicant. Is there
anything he wishes to refute that might have been entered i +c)
the testimony this evening?
Applicant: Mr. Mayor. I would like to take tl,r
opportunity to consider all statements that have been midi -
tonight in order to rebut if necessary, certdini'v
respond as we intend to respond at the next Coun.
meeting. 1'd like to take that opportunity.
Wilson:.Okay, with that understanding, we will keep ; 1,;
public hearing open. It would be inappropriate to take �r
on this until we get the comments on the EIR and have the �'•� f
analyze this entire package and come back with a recommend,
to us. Mr. Diaz, is two -week continuance appropriate?
Diaz Yes.
Wilson:_ Does Council have any questions of staff or •.F -
in the audience or any questions before I entertain d n„!:
continue for two weeks this public hearing?
Benson: I'd just like to say in regard to Buford's, t .
if two weeks is sufficient, we certainly don't wart
Tuesday before Council in order to digest the .answers.
Diaz: My staff, super Planner Phil Drell, will lid�a.
response to comments to you before the Tuesday bef-,r,
Thursday.
Wilson: It's called puck passing?
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Crites: It's his last act before officially retiring, right?
Wilson: So now it would be appropriate to entertain a motion
to continue this.
Councilman Crites so moved. Councilmember Benson seconded the
motion, and it carried by unanimous vote.
A. REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF AMENDMENTS TO THE SIGN ORDINANCE,
SECTION 68, AS IT APPLIES TO SIGNS AND AWNINGS.
(Continued from the meeting of September 28, 1989.)
Mr. Diaz reviewed the staff report and recommendation.
Mayor Wilson declared the Public Hearing open and invited
testimony in favor of the proposed revisions. The following
spoke:
MR. DAN EHRLER, Executive Director of the Chamber of
Commerce, noted he had chaired a task force which worked
with the City on these changes. He said they strongly
favored the proposed changes to the Architectural Review
Commission which recommended individuals with design or
color coordination skills as well as the one which did not
ban neon signs but rather left those approvals to the
A.R.C. under strict guidelines. He said the committee did
have three concerns: 1) It continued to recommend
implementation of the definitions provided by the State of
California Sign User Council as it would give the City
State-wide uniformity; 2) Opposed limiting signs to three
colors - felt current wording should be retained; 3)
Supported retaining current language relative to awnings
and allowing them to be approved on an individual basis
with strict guidelines. He concluded by asking that the
Council review the implementation of the new ordinance in
6 months, no later than a year, to see how they are
working.
Mayor Wilson thanked Mr. Ehrler and all the members of the
Chamber who participated on this committee which had proved to
be of great assistance to the City.
MR. JIM ENGLE, Imperial Sign Company, 46-120 Calvin
Street. Indio. opposed prohibiting signs on parapets or
mansard roofs. He said that they already existed on many
businesses in Palm Desert and as new tenants went into
these buildings, they would be forced to remove them. He
also opposed the six foot height limitation on free
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standing signs feeling a maximum of 15 feet should be
allowed.
MR. ROBERT KINNEY, Sign Users Council, said he had worked
with the Chamber of Commerce subcommittee and his
organization was generally opposed to the majority of the
proposed revisions. He said they would create problems
for existing business and particularly those new ones
required to remove and replace signs which had become
illegal. He specifically opposed Section 25.68.670 as
proposed by the City Attorney as being unreasonable and an
open invitation to offenders. He stated the height
limitations on the monument/free-standing signs were
unreasonable as was the elimination of parapet and mansard
roof signs. He noted that many of the buildings in the
City had been architecturally designed for this type of
sign.
With no further testimony offered, Mayor Wilson closed the
Public Hearing.
Council Comments:
Crites: Revisions do not in excess of 6 foot monument sign as
language says six feet as long as it provides adequate
visibility; if not, it can go to 10 feet. With regard to the
signs on mansard roofs, he noted that the two members of the
task force on this issue who recommended against these had been
architects. He said he thought the videos shown pointed out
that if anything, this type of sign violated the architectural
integrity of any building. Agreed the ordinance revisions
should be reviewed in six months to a year. With regard to the
Chamber's suggestion that awnings be reviewed on an individual
basis, he noted it was at the request of the Architectural
Review Commission that specific guidelines be established, and
the ones included in the amendment are the ones the City has
been using for the last five months. With regard to using
State definitions, they have created numerous problems in the
past. With regard to eliminating the three -color restriction
for signs, he said the current ordinance which allows more has
brought the City to the point of limiting to three.
Benson: Thought the amendments were the best the City had had
in a long time; thought they gave excellent guidelines to the
A.R.C.. She liked the idea of reviewing them In six months
David Erwin: Said he would like to talk to the attorney who
wrote the California law that Amendment 25.68.670 was
responding to. He said he would do so and have a response at
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the next meeting. If Council chose to pass the ordinance to
second reading, his report could still be given.
Mayor Wilson reopened the public hearing to accommodate more
comments from Mr. Kinney from the Sign Users Council relative
to Section 25.68.670. He reclosed the public hearing.
Snyder: Complimented Chamber of Commerce subcommittee for its
work in assisting the City in this matter. Said any sign
ordinance would fail to please everyone, but this one came
close.
Wilson: Felt the regulations dealing with mansard roofs
prohibited future building to using signage above roof lines;
the question is whether or not we are creating problems for
business turnover. Councilman Crites said he had asked the
Chamber for specific data supporting that theory, and there was
none.
Councilman Snyder moved to waive further reading and pass Ordinance
No. 587 to second reading with direction to staff to schedule appropriate
meetings in six months to review how the amendments are working.
Councilmember Benson seconded the motion, and it carried by unanimous
vote.
D. NS_1 DERAT ION OF A REQUEST FOR VACATION OF A PUBLIC
UTILITY EASEMENT WITHIN LOT 33 OF SHADOW MOUNTAIN PARK
ESTATES, UNIT NO. 1.
Mr. Folkers reviewed the staff report and recommendation.
He said he had received no opposition from the utility
companies.
Upon question by Councilman Snyder, Mr. Folkers responded
that this was not necessary for any type of drainage
easement to the property.
Mayor Wilson declared the Public Hearing open and invited
public testimony.
MR. JACK LANDON, 73-720 Shadow Lake Drive, Palm Desert.,
addressed Council as the property owner and in favor of
the easement vacation.
with ro further testimony offered. Mayor Wilson closed the
Pith l i r Hearing.
Upon motion by Kelly, second by Benson, Resolution No. 89-123 was
adopted by unanimous vote of the Council.
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E. CONSIDERATION OF AN APPEAL OF A PLANNING COMMISSION
DECISION TO DENY A NEGATIVE DECLARATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACT AND A PRECISE PLAN FOR A 17,000 SQUARE FOOT
COMMERCIAL BUILDING LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HIGHWAY
111, MIDWAY BETWEEN PORTOLA AVENUE AND SAN LUIS REY
AVENUE. GEORGE METSOVAS. APPELLANT.
Phil Drell reviewed the staff report. He said that the
Planning Commission had been concerned with the applicants
first submittal inasmuch as it contained several errors
and did not provide sufficient information as to the
quality of the project. Since then, the applicant has
produced a rendering which might have allowed the Planning
Commission to have confidence in the quality of the
project. He concluded by stating that the project met the
City's standards.
Mayor Wilson declared the Public Hearing open and invited
testimony from the applicant.
MR. GEORGE METSOVAS, 72650 Sun Valley, Palm Desert,
addressed Council saying that he had originally drawn his
own plans which had been sufficient for other buildings he
had constructed. He said he had brought his engineer to
answer any technical questions Council may have.
MR. FRED DIVA, 2250 W. Chestnut Street, San Bernardino,
said there was no problem with the building from an
engineering standpoint.
With no further testimony offered, Mayor Wilson declared the
Public Hearing closed.
Council Comments:
Snyder: Thought that there was additional information, it
should all go back to the Planning Commission for review and
recommendation. Also thought the plan was lacking in adequate
landscaping and did not like the parking lot in the front of
the building as he felt there were too many along Highway III
as it was.
Crites: Said the highway along that area tends to be at a
higher elevation than other property so that you look down into
it. Said that further mitigated against design where you pl.-jce
parking in front of the building. Said buildings should be in
the front and parking in the rear.
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Benson: Said that Alessandro had been developed to accommodate
rear parking, and this defeated it.
Kelly: Said he liked the parking in the front as opposed to
the layout of the Reubens, Rusty Pelican, etc. center.
Upon question by Mayor Wilson, Mr. Drell responded that this
project provided landscaping far in excess of any in existence
now.
Wilson: Said he liked the layout; thought it was desirable to
break up the monotony of that block as it exists now.
Mayor Wilson reopened the hearing to allow the applicant to
respond to a question. Mr. Metsovas advised that he was
proposing 50 trees for the parking lot. He added that
customers don't like to enter commercial buildings from rear
lots for security reasons. Mayor Wilson reclosed the Public
Hearing.
Upon question by Snyder, Mr. Drell responded that the project
was deficient in parking by six spaces, but staff did not view
it as a problem because there would also be Frontage Road
parking available as well.
Upon question by Benson. Mr. Drell responded that any clock
tower in the project would have to receive specific, separate
approval.
Councilman Snyder moved to send the request back to the Planning
Commission with the additional information now available plus the
observations made by the City Council. Councilman Kelly seconded the
motion with the addition of direction to the Planning Commission to
include conditions for recycling bins in the project. Councilman Snyder
agreed to the amendment. The motion passed by unanimous vote.
F. REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, CHANGE
OF ZONE, PRECISE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT, AND NEGATIVE
DECLARATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT TO ALLOW CONSTRUCTION
OF APPROXIMATELY 59,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL AND
COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF FRED
WARING DRIVE AND HIGHWAY 111. B!RTCHER-DUNHAM, APPLICANT.
Cather ine Sass reviewed the staff report and
recommendation for approval. She noted that three
conditions of approval should be added should Council
chose to accept the plans. They were:
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#13. Applicant agrees to maintain the landscaping required
to be installed pursuant to these conditions.
Applicant will enter into an agreement to maintain
said landscaping for the life of the project, which
agreement shall be notarized and which agreement
shall be recorded. It is the specific intent of the
parties that this condition and agreement run with
the land and bind successors and assigns.
#14. Applicant agrees to provide their fair share to the
construction and operation of a proposed people -mover
system.
#15. Applicant shall establish a commercial recycling
program to be reviewed and approved by the
Environmental Conservation Manager.
Upon question by Crites, Ms. Sass responded that the
requirement for parking lot trees was included as
Condition No. 12.
Mayor Wilson declared the Public Hearing open and invited
testimony from the applicant.
MR. CURT DUNHAM, 72-010 Varner Road, Thousand Palms,
introduced Jay Singer, Real Estate Manager for Toys R
Us. Mr. Singer said they had chosen the property
because of its location to the Town Center. Their
peak months of operation are October, November, and
December. He said they had modified their building
to meet the City's standards and that its elevation
was substantially different than their other
facilities.
MS. SHERRY NATTRENS, 3130 S. Harbor Boulevard,
Anaheim. addressed Council on behalf of the Marriott
and Allies Restaurant, also proposed for this
property. She noted that Allies was replacing all
the Bob's Big Boy Restaurants in southern California,
and they were anxious to get this new restaurant
built.
MR. DUNHAM stated that they could agree with all
conditions imposed except for that of the people
mover. He said he had just learned the day before
about this requirement and did not feel he could
agree to it since he was selling the land. He asked
for a specific dollar amount this condition would
require.
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Mr. Altman said that no exact figure could be
established unt i 1 after such time as the study was
completed which was expected the end of December. He
said perhaps the applicant could place an amount of
$16 per sq. ft. into an escrow account until such
time as an amount is determined; this would allow the
Council and applicant to then move forward with the
project.
Councilman Crites stated that traffic surveys showed
that a system $uch as the one being studied was
mandatory. Upon question by Mr. Singer, Mr. Altman
responded that it would be $16 per foot of building,
not land.
Upon question by Councilmembers Kelly and Benson, Mr.
Dunham responded that Travelers Inn was in favor of
widening the entrance. Ms. Sass said that it had
been widened and angled for better traffic
circulation.
Councilman Crites asked that staff look into the rear
landscaping of the Toys R Us facility as it was very
visible; he said there should be some minimal
landscaping along the Palm Valley Channel as well.
Mr. Dunham asked how long after approval he would
have to accept it. Mr. Erwin said the clock started
running with the approval of the Precise Plan of
Design, so the time limit would be 90 to 120 days.
Mr. Altman noted that the applicant was not concerned
about the people mover condition itself but rather
the amount. He said that the City is concerned as
well as it will be responsible for paying for half of
the system.
At this point, Mr. Dunham and Mr. Singer agreed to
the people mover condition.
Mayor Wilson invited testimony in OPPOSITION to the
request. and none was offered. He closed the public
hearing.
Counc i l member Benson said she did not want to see that
parking lot on the corner with 350 cars in it and
therefore would vote against the project.
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Councilman Crites compliment Toys R Us for the design of
their facility.
Councilman Crites moved to waive further reading and adopt
Resolution No. 89-124, to waive further reading and adopt Resolution No.
89-125 as amended by Ms. Sass to include Conditions 13, 14, and 15 under
Department of Community Development Conditions, and to waive further
reading and pass Ordinance No. 592 to second reading. Councilman Snyder
seconded the motion, and it carried by a 4-1 vote with Councilmember
Benson voting NO.
Continued Item for 4 p.m. Session
A. CONSIDERATION OF AN APPEAL BY DANIEL F. COHEN FOR CIRCLE K
STORE ##321 OF THE REMOVAL OF A LOTTO BANNER.
Mr. Diaz stated that in light of the Council's action on
the sign ordinance amendments earlier in the agenda, he
would recommend denial of the appeal as it does not meet
the standards of the new code.
Upon motion by Crites, second by Benson, the appeal was denied by
unanimous vote of the Council.
XIX. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - D
None
XX. ADJOURNMENT
Councilman Crites moved to adjourn to Closed Session pursuant to
Government Code Section 54956.8, Real Property Transactions and 54956.9
(a) and (b), Pending and Potential Litigation, and Personnel; specific
cases of Palm Springs vs. the City of Palm Desert, Palm Desert vs. Indian
Wells/Sunterra, and Indian Springs Trust vs. City of Palm Desert.
Councilman Snyder seconded the motion, and it carried by unanimous vote.
Mayor Wilson adjourned to Closed Session at 12:10 a.m. He reconvened the
meeting at 12:50 a.m. and immediately adjourned with no action apnounced.
ATTEST:
'SHEILA R. GILLIGAN, CCLERK
CITY OF PALM DESERT, CALIFORNIA
(7.72„-r-7-7?„
OY 141 LS-6N, MAYOR
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