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FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 27, 2004 — 10:00 A.M.
CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
I. CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Spiegel convened the meeting at 10:28 a.m.
1I. ROLL CALL
Present:
Councilmember Jean M. Benson
Mayor Pro Tem Buford A. Crites
Councilman Jim Ferguson
Councilman Richard S. Kelly
Mayor Robert A. Spiegel
Also Present:
Carlos L. Ortega, City Manager/RDA Executive Director
Robert W. Hargreaves, Deputy City Attorney
Sheila R. Gilligan, ACM for Community Services
Homer Croy, ACM for Development Services
Justin McCarthy, ACM for Redevelopment
Rachelle D. Klassen, City Clerk
Mark Greenwood, City Engineer
Philip Drell, Director of Community Development
Paul S. Gibson, Director of Finance/City Treasurer
Teresa L. La Rocca, Director of Housing
Michael J. Errante, Director of Public Works
Ignacio Otero, Division Chief/Riverside County Fire Department
Steve Thetford, Lieutenant, Palm Desert Police Dept./Riverside Co. Sheriffs Dept.
III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - Councilmember Jean M. Benson
IV. INVOCATION - Councilman Richard S. Kelly
V. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - A
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VI. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
FEBRUARY 27, 2004
A. MINUTES OF THE ADJOURNED REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF
FEBRUARY 5, 2004.
Upon motion by Ferguson, second by Benson, the Minutes of the Adjourned
Regular City Council Meeting of February 5, 2004, were approved as presented by a 4-0
vote, with Mayor Pro Tem Crites ABSENT.
VII. PUBLIC HEARING
A. CONSIDERATION OF A COMPREHENSIVE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE
AND FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT FOR THE CITY OF
PALM DESERT, CALIFORNIA Case No. GPA 01-04 (City of Palm Desert,
Applicant) (Continued from the meetings of January 15, January 29, and
February 5, 2004).
The following is a verbatim transcript of this public hearing:
Key
RAS Mayor Robert A. Spiegel
PD Phil Drell, Director of Community Development
MG Mark Greenwood, City Engineer
JF Councilman Jim Ferguson
RSK Councilman Richard S. Kelly
BAC Mayor Pro Tem Buford A. Crites
SRG Sheila R. Gilligan, ACM for Community Services
CLO Carlos L. Ortega, City Manager
JMB Councilmember Jean M. Benson
JC John Criste, Terra Nova Planning & Research, Palm Springs, CA
RDK Rachelle D. Klassen, City Clerk
MM Myron MacLeod
RAS We now move to the public hearing...consideration of a comprehensive
General Plan...do we have a staff report.
PD
I believe the item on the Agenda today is the circulation element, and Mark
Greenwood will make the presentation with assistance as required by John
Criste.
MG Good morning. I just want to start briefly with a 15-minute presentation or so
on some of the basic concepts of what we've done, what we're proposing,
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and then John will go into the element itself. Okay, the first...you have some
displays in your packet hopefully. The first display I'm going to talk about is
the circulation element, the color map with all the streets shown. And it's
also up on the board here. What we've shown here is the circulation
element with all the arterial streets down through the collectors. We've
added quite a few collector streets. A lot of existing streets are now
designated collectors to reflect what their function is. We've added Eldorado
West as a secondary street. This map now reflects the Portola interchange.
The North Sphere streets have all been added and this North Sphere street
layout pretty much reflects the land use plans that you've been looking at, so
there's pretty good coordination between the two. And then we're proposing
to establish a new rural street standard for really only one street, and that's
the Calle de las Campasinos, or the Palm Valley Channel Access Road. As
you know, this road is currently just sealed with a polymer sealant to keep
dust down. There have been a couple of development maps approved
there. It's important for those developers to be able to have legal access to
their properties before we can finalize their maps. CVWD doesn't seem to
think that they have legal access at this time, so what we're proposing is that
the City take that right of way, which is from Thrush Road to the south down
to Upper Way West, which is where the water booster station is, that we
declare that a public street, we offer back to CVWD an easement for their
use, and that this would just be a rural street. And there's a standard on
another one of your displays...this display that has all the street sections on
it...down at the bottom on their right is a rural street standard, which is really
just asphalt on the native soil, no curb and gutter, no sidewalk or anything
like that, it's just 24 feet of pavement with an eight -foot shoulder on each
side. And this would be adjacent to the Channel. So that's really the biggest
changes on the circulation network. While we have the cross section map
out...
JF Why would we do that?
RAS (Inaudible) is that what you're asking?
JF No...I was thinking about this last night. CVWD has the access road, CVWD
can grant an encroachment permit or whatever the legal term is for it to one
property owner, why would we make a public street out of a private street
and incur all the expense when one private owner has the ability to do it right
now with CVWD?
MG There is more than one private owner. There are...
JF Well, there's only one making noise about a subdivision map.
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MG
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There's one that we're dealing with now and then one...another map that has
been approved for more Tots, for seven lots, that's Dorie Cree...so we have
a total of 11 lots, two different owners, that will...in the future that will be 11
owners, and then I don't know how many...I think there's about 30 properties
up there now that use this road. The problem is that the Map Act requires
that before we can approve the parcel map, they have to have legal access
to those properties. There is no truly well -documented legal access to those
properties now. In fact, CVWD has said in writing they believe everybody
using that road is trespassing. And so it could happen that they could
enforce that trespass and lock everybody out. So in order to rectify that
situation, we're recommending that it be a public road.
JF Any idea what the cost is on that public road?
MG I believe about $60,000 or so...I would say between $50,000 and $75,000,
something like that. We're just proposing five inches of asphalt on native
soil, so it's a relatively...it's a minimal standard, and I should say the
treatment that we're using now, this polymer sealant, we will have to redo
every year forever. So in the long run, the asphalt will be cheaper. I should
say too that I've had some discussions with Mr. Nelson recently, and he's
indicated he would rather have us have a thinner pavement section to control
the costs. He'd rather...he would like to see three inches, we have proposed
five. We could compromise at four.
(Inaudible)
JF The liability for the Channel. Where is Carlos?
MG As you know, too, we currently have an encroachment...we currently hold an
encroachment permit for access to the Homme/Adams Park, and that
encroachment permit lays all of the liability for that road on us now for any
traffic that's on it. So I believe we have already adopted all the liability.
JF Maybe we can wait til the City Manager gets here for that discussion
(inaudible)
MG Would you like to move on to something else, then, until he comes back?
Okay. On the street sections, which is this display, some of the major
changes are...we are proposing a wider parkway than we had in the past.
Our standard arterial street parkway in the past has been a 12-foot parkway
and then an optional 20-foot landscape buffer. After quite a bit of experience
with these and thinking about it long and hard, we're proposing a 20-foot
parkway everywhere, and that there not be an optional...some places it could
be 12 feet, in other places it could be 32 feet, so this would be much more
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consistent and much more predictable. I should say that some of the
development community has approached us and asked that we make it...that
we subdivide this 24-foot parkway into 12 feet of right of way and that the last
12 feet be an easement for public utilities, landscape, and (inaudible) They
feel that that's a more appropriate and equitable way to handle this issue.
Our current standard on arterial streets, parkways, is that we have a 12-foot
right of way from the back of curb. That always occurs. Then there's an
optional 20-foot landscape easement. That 20-foot landscape easement may
be...sometimes it's interpreted to be in addition to the 12 feet, so that would
be a total of 32 feet from the back of curb. Sometimes it's interpreted as 20
feet from the back of curb. So in some places we have a 12-foot parkway,
some places we have a 20-foot parkway, and some places we have a 32-
foot parkway. And there's not a lot of guidance about where it's
going...which dimension applies. It's really been kind of haphazard. What
we're proposing here is very clear, and there's no interpretation left. 24-foot
parkway everywhere. Now the development community asked us to
subdivide that 24 feet and make a subtle change here to that. The right of
way would actually be at 12 feet behind curb, and that there be an additional
12-foot easement behind that.
RAS Question. Are all the arterial streets going to be six lanes?
MG All of the arterial streets shown in blue on this map...they are proposed to be
six lanes some day. There are certain cases where that just may not be able
to happen.
RAS Like Portola.
MG Particularly in the south...yeah, Portola's very difficult. In the North Sphere
I think that's really what we see, that's what we envision is six lanes on all
those arterials in the North Sphere. And I should say, too, that the circulation
element is a guideline, a goal for us to achieve, and there may be places
where we can't get it and...of course, that would be your decision as projects
came to you...you'd be using this as a framework, and some places you may
not acquire that. Also on the circulation element, there's the gray dots and
the red dots. The gray dots are the existing signals that are in place now.
The red dots are where we envision signals being...
RSK I have a question on this other one before you move to that one.
MG Okay.
RSK On this...
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MG Yes.
RSK
MG
FEBRUARY 27, 2004
On the collector streets, you show a sidewalk that's five feet, but on a local
street...all the rest of them, including the local streets, is six feet. Why the
collector streets... (inaudible)
On the collectors we're showing the sidewalk being away from the curb, at
the back of the right of way, so there's a parkway between the sidewalk and
the cars. There'd be a landscaped area between the sidewalk and the
street, where on a local street the sidewalk is right up against the curb. We
can adjust that if you...that was just our proposal.
RAS How many lanes are there on a thoroughfare?
MG A thoroughfare is a four -lane road with either parking or a bike lane.
RAS Okay, an arterial is six, a thoroughfare is four...how about a secondary?
MG A secondary is a four -lane road with a bike lane, but it cannot allow
parking...it is now wide enough.
RAS And a collector street?
MG A collector street is two lanes with a median of some type, probably a 12-foot
raised median, a 12-foot lane in each direction, and then a bike lane or
parking, not both.
BAC The material we received yesterday from the bicycle program...
MG Yes...which I haven't seen, by the way, so I won't be able to...
BAC Oh. Never mind, then. I was just going to call attention to items 4 and 5 and
see how consistent that was...
MG If you'd like to discuss them, we can give it a try.
BAC Item 4 considered bicycle access (inaudible) here...just need a copy of this
darned thing...
MG Okay, which item?
BAC Items...start with 4 and 5...or start with 4.
MG On Item 4? We are...
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BAC How consistent is that with what you're recommending on these cross
sections?
MG I think very consistent. Every one of our sections, from arterial down to
collector, allows for a bike lane. The only competition with the bike lane is
the parking lane. So the only choice we have is between parking and bikes.
We don't have to choose between a traffic lane and a bike lane, which is the
situation we're in now. So yes, we're accommodating this desire.
BAC Okay, Item 5.
MG From a staff level, we agree that the shared sidewalk thing is not desirable
in the long term. What we've done now is that in order to expand the bike
lane and the golf cart system as widely as possible, as quickly as possible,
we've used sidewalk where we've had to, but in the long term we're trying to
provide bike lanes in the street more than on the sidewalk, so we agree with
that, too.
BAC
MG
JF
MG
(Inaudible)
Alright....long term, what are you looking at in terms of eliminating this shared
use? In other words, if somebody came up to you and said when will you not
have that problem, what would your response be?
Well, when the system is built out and we...the way it works now with both
traffic lanes and bike lanes is that we do the best to exploit opportunities, and
when we have the opportunity we build enough space in for a bike lane. It
would be difficult to predict that we would widen streets just to add a bike
lane unless there was a program established for that in the capital
improvement program. So it is a long term goal, you know, 10 to 15 years
before we would see us getting off the sidewalks altogether.
Question. The fundamental assumption that these bicycle folks make is that
everywhere there's a road, there needs to be a bike path, yet we don't allow
bicycles on Interstate 10. Do you agree with that assumption or is there...
No, there are certain streets I don't think bicycles are appropriate on,
Monterey Avenue for one. The speeds are just too high. I believe Portola
is a much better place to ride a bike. On the other hand, Portola is very
narrow and very difficult to get bike lanes in some of these areas. And so
it's...bike lanes are a very difficult thing to make fit into an already built
environment, but...
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JMB
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It seems to me that 111 is too dangerous with cars pulling in and out
(inaudible) thing to have bike lanes. The accidents we've had in the past
have been on 111. We've had them going over the portion there by Desert
Crossing in years past, we had a fatality that...couple along 111. We have
other ways to go that way. They can come and go down Fred Waring and
get clear down to the other end.
MG Our bike plan does not propose bike lanes on 111.
JF Let me ask a question...
JMB That's just referring to one of their suggestions.
MG Right
JF ...a different way. For our golf cart program, we have prescribed streets that
golf carts may go on and streets they can't go on.
MG Yes.
JF And we have something similar for bikes?
MG Bicycles are covered by the Vehicle Code, and even streets that we don't
post as a bike lane, a bicycle is still allowed to use. For example, a bicycle
is allowed to ride on Highway 111, whether we establish a bike lane there or
not. They are just required to do it safely and to not impede traffic. How you
would ride a bike on Highway 111 safely and not impede traffic I don't know,
but 1 do see bicyclists on 111 frequently.
BAC The classic of that, to me at least, is we can't restrict... not our city, but we the
generic we, can't restrict bicycle use on Highway 74 going up the mountain.
That's a...
RAS Very dangerous.
BAC
...a remarkably dangerous place to come around the corner and find a
bicycle in front of you going up or down, whatever that issue is. And, again,
that's the law.
MG The differentiation is a bicyclist enjoys all the rights and responsibilities as a
motorist, whereas a golf cart is a much more specialized thing, and it's...it
falls under the City's golf cart transportation program. So we have more
control over the golf carts than we do over the bicycles. In our case, the
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bicycle system and the golf cart system are identical. They lay on top of
each other exactly.
RAS Can we have a brochure for bicycles in our City that describes streets that
(inaudible) they ride on.
MG I believe the Visitors Center has a brochure that they hand out, but I wasn't
involved in it.
RAS Maybe we can get a copy for the (inaudible)
SRG Mark, what's the one we just did with Phil Joy?
MG We just did the golf cart brochure. I believe there's a similar bicycle
brochure.
SRG Okay.
MG Shall we go back to the...
RAS Mayor Pro Tem
JF Apparently not.
BAC Just one quick one. You have not, then, met with the bicycle folks on...
MG No.
BAC Would you...will you be doing that?
MG If you'd like, yes.
BAC I would appreciate it if whoever's appropriate would meet with them and then
come back with any comments that...or changes that you do or do not think
are appropriate. That way...I want to make sure they've had the opportunity
for input, having recently heard someone in this Chamber say how this is all
being done without any public input. (Inaudible) they had that chance.
RAS Thank you. Let's go back now to the rural street section. Mr. City Manager,
you weren't here when we talked about it, but one of the people on the
Council indicated you had concerns about the rural street, the liability of the
City, etc., etc.
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CLO
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Well, the Council considered a report from City staff that said that if we're
going to have these kinds of streets, that maybe we wanted to create a
different standard grade of rural street because right now, the way our
municipal code reads that streets that are into the public system have to be
approved to a certain specification. What Public Works staff recommended
is that with regard to this particular street and others like it, that we create a
rural road standard, but the Council said not yet, let's wait until we look at the
information today and look at it as part of the General Plan. And the reason
this is important is because you know the City approved the project out there,
and the developer can't be given the go ahead by the Public Works
Department. In addition to that, the Water District is pressuring us to accept
that because as of right now, it's an easement that we have, and they don't
want, I presume, the liability of having people go through there, through their
easement. So they're pressuring us to accept it as a City street. So there are
several points of pressure that we're looking at. And so far, what we've told
the Water District is no, we are not prepared to accept anything because the
Council has said we want to review the matter.
RAS Would your recommendation be that we do accept it?
CLO Well, I think...I would agree with staffs recommendation that we do create
a rural road standard. And, you know, we have a park there and everything,
there are people in our city that depend on that, and that we've already made
some improvements, that we go ahead and create that rural road standards
and go ahead and accept the offer of the Water District. Otherwise, we're
always going to be continuing to live in this...with this problem.
RAS But as far as the liability is concerned, it's not going to increase dramatically
if we accept the road?
CLO Well, there are liabilities to having City streets. My own personal view is that
we have a liability anyway because to an extent we have promoted that use.
We approve it, you know, and we are allowing it to be used as a public
street, and because of that the Water District is saying we want to give it to
you, you guys go ahead and accept it.
RAS So is everyone satisfied with the (inaudible)
JF Well, I guess the one hangup I have is that folks have been living out there
since the passage of the Homestead Act, which is a depression area statute,
and now all of a sudden because of one "person that wants to build a
residence out there", we have to accept, dedicate, improve a public street
where people have been living just fine for the last 75 years. It just doesn't
compute with me. I think we've got a rural street there right now.
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RAS You're suggesting we accept it as is?
JF Well, I talked to our City Attorney yesterday, and he told me that CVWD can
issue an encroachment permit to this property owner, which is acceptable to
his lender, which allows him to get his financing to build his home, and things
go on just the way they've been going on for 75 years without us having to
incur the expense and, I think, increased liability for a public road.
CLO We can leave things as they are and continue to have what we have there.
RAS The only comment I have is that Mark indicated that it's going to be long term
more expensive that (inaudible) to maintain (inaudible) resurfacing it, what,
every year, something like that?
MG The polymer sealing will probably have to be replaced every year and after
every rainfall, every, you know, substantial storm.
(Inaudible)
JF
Well, again, I compare Cahuilla Hills where the residents got together and
decided they wanted to pave their streets. They were willing to accept the
increased accessibility and off-roaders having access to their parcels, and
they did that. These homeowners haven't done that, and they prefer to have
a dirt road or as closely akin thereto as you have to keep people out and to
keep off-roaders off of their parcels and to keep it rural. And if we do
anything in there, my preference would be to contact all of those
homeowners and see if this is something they want us to do and not just do
it for David Nelson and Dorie Cree.
RAS (Inaudible) and what happens (inaudible)
JMB I think at least we should (inaudible)
RAS Hopefully they'd pick up the maintenance of the road over the years.
JF Once it's public, though (inaudible)
RSK Well, my feeling about that is when we did the park, that's when we created
the (inaudible) nothing to do with the homes that are there. We did
something as a city, created a park in a fashion, and to me that's when we
took on the responsibility to do something about it.
MG I guess I should add, too, that we would be seeking contribution from the
newly developed parcels to help pay for construction of this road, whereas
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if it's on the City year by year to maintain it, I don't think...we don't have any
mechanism now to involve the property owners, so if we actually pave it and
we get some...
But the irony for me is we bought the park to preserve the open space, and
then by buying the park to preserve the open space we created a road that
destroys the character of the area...(inaudible) self-defeating purpose.
RSK We didn't just make it open space, we made a park.
JF Well, when I was out there for Hopalong Cassidy Days, I saw scant
improvement to the park.
RSK Well, if you went on any other day, you'd see...you wouldn't see very many
people either, but...
JF I know...which is why I think it's open space and not really necessarily...
RAS We didn't really know the ramifications when we made it a park, that's the
problem.
JF Well, do you have an objection to at least contact the folks that live there and
getting their input?
RAS Mayor Pro Tem, you have a comment?
BAC Just a humble thought that maybe we look at different ways of both
improving the surface and get options for Council to look at to potentially
accomplish what folks want to do without not accomplishing what other
people want to do. There may be...
MG Sure, we can do that.
RAS Okay.
JF (Inaudible) contact the residents?
BAC I think that's a fine idea.
JF That would be less than 20 of them, and it's not going to be a very expensive
proposition. If they say want a road, I'm all for it. If they say they don't want
one, then that's a different story.
RAS Mr. City Manager, you have a comment?
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CLO
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BAC
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BAC
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JF
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JF
(Inaudible)
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MG
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Just that the Council is aware, we will continue to tell the Water District that
at this time we do not wish to accept those for public streets.
But that we're looking into it.
Yes, if we send a letter, I'll send a copy of the Council, of what we were
doing, and then they'll have to deal with that, the Water District.
I have just a purely informational question. Difference that one applicant falls
into, the issue between a single family home and a parcel map...
Subdivision map.
...subdivision map...I know Mr
Exactly. Mr. Carver did not su
Okay, that's the issue. Alright
for me.
Okay, we can move on to...my
Desert has had a level of sery
Yeah, I want to talk about sign
Okay, let's talk about signals.
Thank you.
. Carver, as an example, is...
bdivide land.
...thank you...that just answered my question
last item is the issue of level of service. Palm
ice...
als.
Okay, I'll start over again and turn my mic on. Without going into individual
locations and discussing should there be one here, shouldn't there be one
there, it doesn't seem to me like we should propose signals in different
places with...kind of locks yourself into it...and that we would have some kind
of policies relative to traffic signals but that we wouldn't specifically designate
where we're going to have them in a 20-year plan.
Okay. Let me explain my philosophy here. What I did is I showed all of the
signals that are currently proposed on existing entitlements and such. The
signal on Country Club just east of Monterey was included in the Merano
entitlement for their next phase. Most of these other signals that are shown
as future are the intersections of collector to arterial or arterial to arterial, so
they're pretty clear they're going to be future signalized locations. And I
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wanted this to be a guideline in the future that as each new development
came in, they wouldn't be seeking a signal at their driveway and having us
have to have that discussion every time and that we could point to this
document as a guideline and say these are the kinds of locations where
signals are installed, and driveways are not the kinds of locations. We could
just as easily do that in a written policy. I just thought this was maybe
easier...
RSK Well, I'd rather see a policy that we're going to have no signals in
driveways...
MG And that's what this does.
RSK ...and that we use this sample, this sample on the bottom here...
MG Right.
RSK ...and that this actually be an objective of ours to have driveways or openings
and use this particular kind of a right turn in, right turn out, and left turn in
only. And that by doing that, we could eliminate the need for lots of signals.
MG And that's why we prepared this standard, that this is what we want...what
we're going to have steer people toward that. They are arterial driveways,
and that needs to be...it will be a great help for us, a good tool, if we can
point to the General Plan as backup to that...
RSK But if you put these all over like this, that defeats the purpose of trying to
eliminate signals and do it this way...
MG So you're saying you'd rather see it in a written policy than a map?
RSK What?
MG You'd rather see it as a written policy rather than showing the locations...
RSK Yeah, I'd rather see a policy that we're going to do this and that we're going
to do everything we can to avoid creating new signals.
MG Very good.
JF My comment, and I realize this is a 20-year document and the North Sphere
we don't know what's going to be out there, but putting seven new signals on
Gerald Ford between Eldorado and Monterey and committing yourself, as
Councilman Kelly says, in a map...
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Well, let me explain that three of the seven are currently entitled based on
existing approved developments. The signals on either side of Cook Street
are developer signals at...the one east of Cook Street is a back driveway to
the college...
JF Now why do you call it a developer signal?
MG The developer will be building it with completion of his project.
JF You just told me last week the biggest impediment to efficient traffic flow is
a traffic signal.
MG I still believe that, too.
JF So why are we...for example, you've got one at Mesa View on 111, one at
what looks like Pitahaya...
MG Yes.
JF That's as built out and developed as it's ever going to get, so...
MG And we have...I believe that...what I would like to do here is to prevent a
safety concern that seems to be growing, where we...turning left onto
Highway 74 from these side streets is difficult for less skilled drivers, and
there are so many opportunities here to turn left onto 74. What I want to do
is establish just two or three signalized crossings and do a raised median on
the rest of Highway 74. So we'd channelize all those left turns into a few
locations and have signals at those locations. That's really a long term thing,
but that's what we're working towards.
JF Couldn't we also put that in text as opposed to a red dot on a map.
MG Yes, absolutely.
RSK There's a lot of red dots here that I have a problem with.
RAS Mayor Pro Tem
BAC Well, just as a note on that issue...you'll also be, then, funneling more traffic
onto some of those streets...
MG Yes.
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...and you're going to have...we're going to have another one of those people
whose street it isn't think it's wonderful, and the ones whose street it is think
it's an absolutely awful idea and...
MG Right. There are frontage roads along Highway 74 that don't show up at this
scale, and the goal would be that people would continue to use their own
local street to get to the frontage road, then parallel the Highway to the signal
and use that signal. And that's what happens at Haystack now where the
existing signal is. People come out of the neighborhood to the south, use
the frontage road, come over to the signal, and then access the Highway.
BAC
But as an example, on the frontage road that's on the east side of Highway
74 as you proceed southerly...every time you cross a street, more times you
have people proceeding along a frontage road through intersections to get
to an intersection, they cross the intersections where other people are
going...you're also increasing the number of intersections people are
crossing with potentials of accidents to get (inaudible)
MG I absolutely agree. It is a balancing act.
JMB I can see maybe putting on the map that the future ones that are very
obvious, like Portola and Frank Sinatra, where there's a four-way stop now
on a lot of those...those I think should be designated, but it's the inner ones
that I agree that maybe we don't need to put on, but certainly on the main
arterial ones, and there are several of them on there that should stay on as
future.
MG
I guess...part of this, too, is I wanted it to be a guide or a display of what our
city's probably going to look like in 20 years. Even if we don't show these red
dots on these intersections, traffic volumes are going to increase at these
intersections, and we're going to at least talk about signals in the future at
these locations.
RSK Well, we'll do that then.
MG That's fine. That's okay.
RAS Wherever an arterial crosses an arterial, it makes sense.
(Inaudible)
RAS ...that's obvious. The rest of them we'll take a look at.
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JMB Yeah, especially along that new street up at the top there where they've got
one, two, three, four right in a row.
RSK Five, six...
MG Would you prefer a written policy, then, that identified where signals would
likely be considered and where they would not likely be considered and
guiding people toward this display at those locations where signals aren't to
be considered?
JMB The main ones.
(Inaudible)
RSK The main arterials (inaudible) We wouldn't try to avoid that but all those other
locations we'd try to avoid it.
MG Okay, not a problem
JF Probably Eldorado West and Fred Waring we're going to need a signal
(inaudible) that street's going to have (inaudible) that's not an arterial...
RAS If that ever comes to pass. (Inaudible)
MG One last thing isthe...the maximum intersection improvement. Basically, the
General Plan establishes a...we have an existing level of service "C"
(inaudible) now...the General Plan you have before you now also proposes
to maintain that level of service "C" with a limit that this display showing three
through lanes, dual lefts, and a right turn lane, either a signalized right turn
or a free right turn, depending on the need, that this would be the maximum
width of intersection that we would build in Palm Desert. What this does is
leave maybe four or five locations that might be level of service "D" during
peak hours, and those are the intersections up against the freeway for the
most part, Dinah Shore and Monterey, Portola and Gerald Ford, Washington
Street at the freeway, I believe would have level of service "D". But we need
to balance the impact an intersection has on the community to the benefit it
provides, and to say we have a hard level of service "C" no matter what, in
some locations we would have to have triple lefts, four throughs, and a free
right, and it makes it kind of a pedestrian waste land, there is no way to cross
that street on foot.
RAS Like Las Vegas.
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MG
RAS
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It would be like Las Vegas, except you'd be the only pedestrian. You'd be
all by yourself out there. So this is what we're proposing as our maximum
intersection, and admittedly, there will be a few intersections that we might
not make level of service "C", but given the balance of the overall impacts,
I think this is what we're proposing.
Maybe I can kind of summarize for the Council, and you correct me if I'm
wrong. On the rural street section, we're going to talk to the people that live
there and also come up with two or three other things that we might use for
the rural street. As far as the (inaudible) we agree that wherever a new
arterial crosses a new arterial, there should be a stop light. The others we'll
look at and develop a policy. And (inaudible)...
RSK And you just covered what we covered here and not necessarily what's in
the...
JF General Plan.
RSK ...General Plan.
MG Yeah...and John Criste is here. He's going to go through...
RAS Yes
MG ...through the elements. I'II turn it over to John.
RAS Thank you very much.
BAC Oh, I have one. On the typical arterial intersection, we mentioned some time
ago making sure that we put the signals and the equipment and everything
else at ultimate distance.
MG Yes.
BAC Same thing with Iandscaping...you know, it's less than a happy thing for me
to look at what we've had to do to 111 and other places and so on and so
forth, and as we spend an enormous amount of money, things get really nice
looking and then they're all turned into trash, and we have done that in the
past with remarkable regularity.
MG The current team won't do that. And having this General Plan in place will
be a great tool for us to get that done.
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BAC Okay. So that if we put a bush in the ground, we can gently tap it on the
head and say it's got a place to live for a long time.
MG We'II have that as a goal for sure. I can't say we can guarantee every plant.
We'll do our best, and we definitely see that as a benefit.
RAS One thing that I failed to mention is that you're going to work with the bicycle
people to get their feedback on what we're doing.
MG Yes.
RAS Okay. Thank you. John...
JC Good morning.
RAS Which book are you in now.
JC I'm in the General Plan, and we'll be starting...at least run quickly through the
element...page 3-47.
RAS 3-47
JC 47...that's the beginning of the circulation element. I thought what we
would...I understand that what we would like to do is run through the policies
and programs, and I thought real quickly I'd give you an overview of the
element because it logically leads to the policies and programs. We've
got...of course, our purpose statement and...
BAC Let us get there first.
JC I'm sorry.
BAC Let us get to 47.
JC I'm sorry.
RAS It's the big one.
BAC I know, that's where I am.
RAS It's a big book.
BAC Yes.
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RAS Okay. There's a smaller one, you see.
BAC Alright. Circulation element.
JC
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We've tried to...and it points to how important obviously, maybe not so
obviously to folks, the circulation element, and the background discussion
gets into that, the relationship to land use planning, which is essential...we
speak to at length, talking about optimizing land use, transportation planning,
and you know a lot of our work that we've been doing in parts of the City
have to do with trying to enhance pedestrian and on motorized vehicle
access to other land uses, and we discussed that. We also discussed trying
to enhance the use of mass transit, of our bus system. We talked about the
rapid transit system that has been discussed now for the last couple of years.
We've incorporated some of the route data that was brought to us early by
Mr. Kelly and others into the circulation element that Mark showed you the
plan. Then we also speak to some others like traffic calming where we
can...we know we have to have the traffic come through certain areas, but
are there ways to slow it down and make it safe for bicyclists and for
pedestrians, we speak to that. The State guidelines require we also look at
things like utility services in the context of transportation. We briefly mention
it. We also reference pedestrian, bicycles, and golf carts, but we also
reference the reader back to the parks and recreation element. And we talk
about the element requirement, the relationship of transportation to air
quality, levels of service, definitions of levels of service, both for mid -block
quality of flows as well as for quantitative levels of service at intersections,
which are the most constrained parts of the roadway system. Some data on
capacities for different types of roadways, average daily traffic volumes. We
have maps that came from the traffic engineer's report that show volumes as
they currently exist and as they are projected to exist in the post 2020 period,
and that assumes not only the growth of essentially the build out of the City
but also a growth in background traffic coming from the rest of the Coachella
Valley. You can pretty much ignore the street cross sections that are in the
General Plan because Mark and his staff have enhanced those and
amended those. We took the time to explain the traffic model because we
are in a regional context, and our analysis needs to match up roughly with
the analysis that's being done by other cities and by CVAG, so we've tried
to describe how that is done and how traffic modeling generally is done. And
then we described current conditions on major streets, major roadways. The
circulation master plan, as I've mentioned, which Mark and his staff have
now expanded, and then we have roadway analysis that shows the General
Plan designation for the major roadways. This will probably now
change...excuse me...this will probably now change with the new map, but
we're substantially conforming, Mark and I determined. And also we're
showing the kind of volumes that would occur on the major roadways in the
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post 2020. That table is on page...starts on page 3-67. And we also have
maps showing the different traffic volumes, again, that would occur in
2020...post 2020 period. We speak to intersections and how they're really
the arbiters of capacity, and then table 3-17 on page...starting on page 3-71
shows the levels of service that will result from the implementation of the
mitigation measures that are recommended in the traffic study. Now, we
have...you'II notice that there are some intersections that are shown at level
of service "D" but the handout we gave you, a technical memo, a few weeks
ago, highlights the intersections where additional improvements can be
provided, and we can get to level of service "C". So that we have some
minor adjustments to make...we will make to this table in the final version.
But we, as Mark indicated, we are able to apply the current...this maximum
standard and get to where we want to get in terms of levels of service. Then
we talked about some of the special focus areas that will probably continue
into the future...Highway 111 jurisdiction, the Portola/I-10 interchange, the
Gerald Ford Drive at University Park area, Monterey Avenue/I-10
interchange, Monterey Avenue joint planning with the City of Rancho Mirage,
and access control along Highway 74 as was mentioned earlier. A few other
things have to do with assuring adequate all-weather crossings so that we
know if we have major flooding we can still get across the Whitewater, and
adequate crossings and ultimately maybe even the mid -valley stormwater
channel will play into that. Preserving roadway capacity along the lines that
Mark and Mr. Kelly were speaking to, how to keep the traffic flowing and still
provide safe access, we have provided a couple of policies that I can go over
that are recommendations for...and they're in your packet...for some of this
type of design treatment. Again, the pedestrians and non -motorized vehicle
users, the golf cart route system, getting right of way if we know we're going
to need right of way, is making sure that when we approve a project we don't
miss an opportunity to have enough right of way dedicated to get the facilities
we'll need in the long term. And then parking and access is an integral part
of the planning and transportation planning process. Discussion of SunLine
and public transit, we described the existing lanes or lines, rather...the
SunLine Bus rapid transit route, transportation demand management. We
briefly touched upon the railway facilities and the forthcoming station. And
air transportation major...major utilities and bicycle facilities. And then we
condensed the issues down into two major goals, as you can see on page
3-80. The first goal being a sustainable and environmentally responsible
system that provides a wide range of facilities and transportation options to
move people, vehicles, goods, in a safe and efficient economic manner. And
then the second goal, which is a logically distributed hierarchy of streets that
meets the current and future demands of the City and the region while
maintaining and protecting the City's residential neighborhoods and resort
character. Now...shall I proceed through each of these...my understanding
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was that you were...would you like to do that, or can we...I'II be glad to just
try to address questions you have regarding this.
RAS Why don't we try to address questions, and if there are no questions...does
anybody have any questions?
RSK Would you like questions or comments both?
RAS Both, yeah, sure.
RSK We've used...the first one...we have used single lanes where we couldn't
have four lanes for calming...as a calming device. Did we mention that
anywhere in here?
JC Under...I believe we do have policies and programs that indicate we'll use
traffic calming devices.
RSK It says that, but it gives some examples of calming, but it didn't give
that...you might look at that...it's not critical because (inaudible)
JC Make sure we have it covered.
RSK We'd probably do it anyway. And on page 3-86, we talk about all-weather
crossings and coordination and...is there somewhere here that we talk
about...should talk about safety when we consider where we're going to put
a bridge and setting up priorities for bridges...I didn't see anything where
(inaudible)
JC With regard to accessibility or...
RSK Where we have...in other words, so we could have a higher priority on a
crossing...that it can get...extremely dangerous conditions.
JC The emergency preparedness element refers to the City's emergency
preparedness plan. And that really needs to be coordinated with the...I
guess capital improvement programs, if you accept the premise of the policy
and the program, then there's a prioritization that still needs to be done, and
that's not done in the element.
JF Are you talking about policy 9?
JC Yes. 9 and 9A
RSK I was talking about 9A...I was looking at.
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JF And a bridge that has nothing to do with emergency preparedness. It's just
straight transportation.
JC The Whitewater is the critical issue.
RSK Yeah, Whitewater is the critical part of it but the biggest deterrent to our
transportation we've ever had in the City. I think it's more in the past than
now, but it still happens other places around but it still happens with us, too.
JC Right.
RSK If we have really torrential rains, and then you have a bridge out or a crossing
out, that's a horrendous detriment to the level of service. (Inaudible) for
three or four days that you can't...
JC And you can count on that to happen more often than (inaudible)
RSK It could happen again. It happened in the past, and it'll happen again.
JC And that kind of strategic planning is something that I would suggest that the
emergency preparedness staff, coordinating with Public Works, to determine
what is the priority and then how to put it into the capital improvements
project plan.
JF But I think you're question is can't we put in here as a goal in the next 20
years to get a bridge put in.
JC Oh, sure.
RSK Yes, exactly.
JC In which case, you know, under the schedule, we could...
RSK That's probably been the biggest transportation I can think of, and it still is in
the Coachella Valley, is Whitewater crossing. And so it seems like that
would be an important thing to put in here...we still have some places we're
going to have to deal with, even though we have a bridge on Monterey.
Well, that's really the only bridge we have in the City, and we're going to
have another crossing I'm thinking of that we're going to deal with it and
we're going to have Portola...that one the Coachella Valley Water District has
told us it's not safe, that it could go out very easily in a major storm. So it
seems like we ought to address it here.
JF I agree.
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JC Well, that's why we've identified in the policy Portola and Cook, they seem
to be the most demanding sites for (inaudible)
RSK Well, can you look at (inaudible)
JF But couldn't we put a goal in that said it's a goal of the City to get at grade
crossings at every intersection across the Whitewater channel?
RSK But the goal ought to be that we...
JC We could certainly do that.
RSK ...have a real bridge at all our crossings.
JF Right.
JC Then what I would...how about if we add the program 9-B which sites that
specifically and then also put a time horizon on this, say within the next ten
years or next 15 years, something of that sort, if you want to try to get some
impetus to the effort.
JF Sure.
RSK And then I have one more that's an ongoing concern of mine, that I think
holds up traffic. I was holding people up this morning trying to find an
address. I know that we've done a lot of work on our addressed, but they're
still terrible. If you go down El Paseo and you want to find an address on El
Paseo...
JF Forget it.
RSK ...it's horrendous. So I think it's a detriment to traffic circulation when people
are trying to find an address and it's still bad, and it seems like it just gets
worse.
JC We can certainly add a policy.
RSK At least put the policy in there. We've been working on it for years, and we
haven't seemed to make much...haven't made much progress it seems like,
but we ought to at least have it in there. With that, I'II let someone else...
JMB I don't have any.
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JF
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I have one. On 3-...oh, good Lord, I lost it...71 maybe? Yeah, 71. We have
the existing level of service at Deep Canyon and Fred Waring as "F", with no
time delay but a footnote that says it happens periodically. Is that associated
with high school traffic? Where did Mark go? The only "F" intersection we
have in the whole city. 3-71.
(Inaudible)
JF Middle of the page, intersection of Deep Canyon...
RSK Deep Canyon/Fred Waring
MG Deep Canyon/Fred Waring
JF "F" and "F"
MG The delays there are short term, about 15 minutes or a half an hour at the
beginning and ending of school.
JF So the high school really...
MG
You get an enormous volume of traffic in the morning from dropping students
off at Lincoln and the middle school and then going to the high school to drop
off another student, so we have huge southbound left turn volume there...
JF So how are we going to improve it to "C" and "C"?
MG This traffic study was performed before the Fred Waring widening was
completed, so we already have improved it by widening Fred Waring, and we
are also considering a dual left turn lane westbound with the extension of the
Fred Waring widening to the east.
JF And Bob mentioned the Aztec Way. Is that going to be one way out or is it
going to be two way in and...
MG It's going to be two way with a signal, so we're hoping that it also helps. It
probably won't help the Deep Canyon issue because it's interaction between
the two schools, so Aztec won't help that, but for parents who just have a
student at the high school, Aztec would definitely be a huge help. You know,
we think Aztec is going to make about a 30% improvement to the Fred
Waring and Phyllis Jackson issue in the morning and the afternoon.
JF Great
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RAS Anything else on the circulation element?
FEBRUARY 27, 2004
JC Nothing else to report except that it's been a pleasure and a tremendous
productive process to be working with Public Works and Planning on it. We
really ground on this quite a bit to try to address all the concerns.
RAS So with the addition of the bridges and identifying addresses...
JC Yes
RAS ...are we ready to vote on this element?
JF And we're going to have a map brought back, and we're going to have
(inaudible)
RAS Yes
JF ...brought back...
RAS All the things (inaudible)
JMB (Inaudible)
JF But that's the direction (inaudible)
RAS Yes
JMB I'll move approval.
RAS Is there a second?
JF Second
RAS Please vote. Mark, with those few things that (inaudible)
RSK (Inaudible)
RDK Motion carries by unanimous vote.
RAS Finally. Alright.
RSK Mark, you're the success of the whole City here. You're the first one
approved.
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RAS You got one. You and Wendy's with a drive-thru restaurant. What's next for
us?
JF Natural resources, [think.
PD Do you want to start on those environmental resources and hazards
elements we can start grinding away on those.
SRG Mayor Spiegel.
RAS It's 11:30, we planned on staying here until about 12:30, is that correct?
JF We could knock out environmental resources.
(Inaudible)
RAS Okay
SRG Can 1 point out that we're going to lose our Police Chief...
BAC What?
SRG We're going to lose our Police Chief at noon.
JF Do we want to do public safety next?
JC Public safety?
JF Which tab?
BAC Anyhow, let's come back in five minutes (inaudible)
RAS (Inaudible) 12:30...1 have one request to speak, and we'll do that before we
exit the chamber.
(Inaudible)
RAS Please
JC Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I refer you to the police and fire protection element,
which is on page 6-26 of your General Plan. This element, I think, probably
received more input and scrutiny from not only the City's Police Department,
especially Steve Thetford behind me and some others who contributed in a
major way to the development of this, but also to the Public Safety
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Commission, who I think we met with three times or four times on this project
and went over the various aspects of it. It is police and fire specifically and
at the recommendation of one of the Councilmen we've gone through and
tried to provide you with some comparison, if you will, of the old element, the
old general plan versus the new one. And, of course, the old plan is about
23 years old now in that regard, but this discussion, relevant discussion, of
police and fire was found originally in the public facilities element and it really
focused on, in general terms, on public safety but also talked about the
expansion of fire and police services and facilities in general, seeing that as
an important thing for the City to pursue as part of the quality of life that
we've achieved here and also things like development permits would be
issued commensurate with services that could and were needed to be
provided to those developments. And listed among those were police
services and fire services. The element...the old element also referred to the
need for facilities north of the Whitewater, and of course we've got an
existing station that's been in place for some time now on Country Club Drive
and others being planned in that vicinity. We've also, of course, got the
sister stations; for instance, in Rancho Mirage on Gerald Ford, we have a
relatively new facility also. And also, a general statement in the element, the
old element, that talked about requiring developers to fund increased
services demanded by their developments. The new draft general plan takes
police and fire and makes it a separate discussion entirely and discusses at
length the issues that are associated with providing these services and also
refers to other elements where appropriate, including the emergency
preparedness element. We even speak to some degree about how...who
regulates some of our public lands that fall within our sphere of influence or
are adjacent to us, and the BLM is the primary, Fish & Game has some
regulatory responsibility, and the Forest Service up in our sphere, up in the
southerly most area. Then we spoke to the issue of police protection in
detail first, general description, and police personnel, levels of service as of
2001, you can see we obviously are somewhat dated sometimes because
of the length of time it takes to get these projects approved and general
plans. But we...you see the information there which Steve may want to
correct or update in some fashion. It's still representative, though, of the
level of service we're providing and the kinds of facilities and support that is
available to the police and fire departments. We also talk about demand for
services, primarily in the year 2000 where we had Tots of data available, and
that is provided as a...for a frame of reference. Also, programs having to do
with crime prevention and public safety, there are a lot of things going on in
that regard. And also, we have...we extend this as...I know staff and the
police department does to issues of community development, where we want
to make sure we have defensible space, as it's sometimes referred to, areas
that can be...are visible to security, that can be driven around and we don't
have blind spots where criminal activities would easily...could easily occur.
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JMB
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We also talk about the relationships of the police department to the school
resource officer program and schools, how many are involved and what a
great program that is. Also, the COPS program and then other law
enforcement services that are discussed in that section. And so we've done
a fairly comprehensive job of explaining the fairly expansive services
provided by the City's police department. Yes, ma'am.
On 6-29, we should change the wording where it says City is evaluating the
feasibility of COPS because we now have it. (Inaudible) how many we have
and some of what their activities are.
JC Okay. Who would be the best contact for that?
JMB Pat Scully.
JC Okay.
JF Another issue...
RAS What page?
JF That's just it...it's not on a page that I can see, and maybe it's in here and I
just haven't found it yet since it's been so long since I've worked on this
element. I know our Public Safety Commission really went the extra mile to
put the time and effort into this, and I don't know where it flopped out in the
time line of the assessment, but we have done a space evaluation of our
existing substation at the City Hall complex and found that it is just
dramatically overcrowded over there, literally bursting at the seams, and
we've been discussing with the Cove Commission and the County and siting
a new facility to accommodate training and space and storage and what
have you. I don't see that reflected in any of these policies, that it's our
policy to provide adequate space for our officers while they're in service.
JC I remember that the issue was addressed even a couple of years ago.
JF Yeah, but I just can't see it in here.
JC I'm not sure I see it either.
JF But whatever the appropriate wording for that is, I think it ought to be
included as a policy.
JC Identifying the need and the (inaudible)
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JF Well, the need's been identified.
JC Then we need to (inaudible)
JF We just need to do it.
JMB Program 2-A speaks to that.
JF Does it?
JC
FEBRUARY 27, 2004
Consult and coordinate long term planning with fire and police departments
regarding the optimal location of future police and fire stations and to assure
adequate staffing levels are provided to meet the demands of new
development.
JF Maybe we can get a little bit more specific about it.
JC Okay.
JMB Expand on that.
JF Has that even made it on the radar on our long term capital improvements
program? We still haven't figured out the financing for it?
(Inaudible)
CLO
We have (inaudible) consultants some phasing numbers as to how much
each phase would cost. In addition, we have also asked our consultant to
give us a debt service schedule, which I have shared with our other cities.
And we're going to address it as three cities along with the County.
JF Well, it's on track, it's not stalled.
CLO
No, it is not stalled by any means. We've looked at the phasing, we've got
a cost for that from the consultant. We know how much the first phase is
going to cost. We know what it would take to service if we decided to finance
it, so it is not getting stalled by any means.
JF So maybe we could put some language in there that says identify and site
and coordinate with other governmental entities in the establishment...
CLO I think that the item that could be addressed by this City Council is where we
would site it if it's in Palm Desert and what land we own or we may want to
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ask a developer for or buy for this future facility. That, you know, we haven't
addressed at all, at least this City Council hasn't addressed at all.
JF Right, not in the General Plan.
RAS Wouldn't that have to go through the Cove Communities if we're going to
stay with the Cove Communities?
RSK We shouldn't be getting too specific in the General Plan, especially an
element like this.
JF No, I just want to recognize that there's a need and we're going to plan on
meeting that need and leave it at that.
JMB Maybe we need to add under the responsible agency, the County (inaudible)
where we've got community development, police department, and Riverside
County or Cove Commission or if that isn't in existence, at least Riverside
County as one of the responsible agencies.
JC
Okay. We'll also add a discussion at the end of the police discussion on
future facilities, need for future facilities, planning for that, and then get the
policy expanded, and we'll bring it back to you so you can see that we're
addressing it.
RAS You also mention in here that a city shall maintain a police staffing ratio of
at least 1.5 sworn officers per 1,000, police #3.
JC Yes.
RAS And as I understand this morning, if the annexation comes through, we're
going to be below that?
JF Barely...1.489 or eleven one -hundredths.
RAS (Inaudible) more people moving in.
JF Well, the Public Safety Commission, whatever you think of their opinion, was
adamant about the 1.5 number.
JC We could add language that said that the City shall make a good faith effort
to maintain, something of that sort, that you're concerned about kind of being
called on the carpet, lagging behind sometimes, which is a natural thing to
happen.
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RAS Anything else on police and fire?
JF I guess I'd rather leave it the way it's worded.
RAS Mayor Pro Tem
FEBRUARY 27, 2004
BAC Well, just one quick one. We note in several places in that...that you've
chatted with Desert Sands about schools and everything like that, and we
certainly do now note the need for an elementary school from the Palm
Springs District in the North Sphere, and so...
JC We can go through that element as soon as we finish this if you like to talk
about schools and libraries.
RAS We'll go to that one after we do this one.
BAC It's noted in the public safety element, so I'm just noting that...
JF Do we note in the public safety element that we do put school resource
officers at our schools?
BAC It does talk about that on...
JC Yes.
BAC ...page 29. So just a note about that, however appropriately to be reflected.
JC The discussion on fire protection starts on page 30, 6-30, and it follows the
same sort of approach, describes levels of staffing, the City's current class
3 ISO insurance rating, equipment, regional fire protection, and then we
discuss the various stations either within the City or in a position to provide
services to the City during a fire or other emergencies. Proposed fire
station...we talked about a fire station perhaps at the California State
University campus. And then other protection services are discussed on
page 33, including mini musters, those sorts of things, which, you know, just
get the young children geared to be able to respond in case of a fire or other
emergency in the household. That usually turns out to be a very good
investment, those kinds of programs. And then we have our standard future
directions discussion, which is fairly boiler plate in this particular case
because the City has clear cut goals. And then the goal is the provision of
efficient high -quality police and fire protection for all types of development
and socio-economic segments of the community, and we go through the
various policies and programs and (inaudible) implement the element.
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JMB I see at the Mesa View one we need to add (inaudible) necessary expansion
for additional crew quarters. Necessary expansion is under way.
RAS Yeah, it's under way.
JMB It's already being worked on, it's in...
RAS We approved it last year.
JMB Yeah, and it's now out to bid, so...
JC This is in the text?
JMB (Inaudible) page 32 under Palm Desert Station 67.
BAC The last sentence.
JMB The station is being remodeled now.
JC Thank you. Any other questions regarding police and fire?
RAS With the changes so noted, is everybody willing to accept the police and fire
element? Is there a motion?
BAC So moved.
JF Second.
RAS Please vote.
JF Now we're two for two.
RDK Motion carries by unanimous vote.
RAS We've got about a half an hour.
JC
Okay. If we can...if Councilman Crites would care to...would you like to go
to schools and libraries next, then...they're out of order, but that's...I'm out of
order all the time.
BAC Schools and libraries won't take very darn long.
(Inaudible)
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Look on page 6-38. We'II start with our purpose statement and then get into
the background discussion and also talk about relationships of the elements
to parks and recreation and open space as well as to other issues of noise
having a potential effect on the schools. And then, of course, circulation and
land use. Some discussion of State law briefly regarding primarily the school
district's authorization to charge development fees. Then we talk about
public schools at length, the fact that we...the City's current city limits are
straddled, district boundaries between Palm Springs and Desert Sands
Unified. We talk about each of those; Desert Sands I think is the lion's share
of the discussion here because of all the facilities that are in the City
(inaudible) of that district, Abraham Lincoln School, the George Washington
Charter, Gerald Ford, Carter Elementary, Palm Desert Middle School, and
Palm Desert High School. And then we discuss briefly...
JMB We need to add the new school out on Country Club. We don't have a name
for it yet.
JC It's going with the park site.
JMB At Freedom Park, the school going in out on Country Club and Oasis.
JC That's a middle school?
RAS No, it's a grade school.
JC Elementary.
RAS It's going to be used the first year by Washington Charter School. They're
going to transfer all their children out there to rebuild the Washington Charter
School. When that's accomplished, then it'll be named and it will be
(inaudible)
JC
Okay, we'll add that discussion to the element. We have a brief discussion
of Palm Springs Unified School District, specifically the Della Lindley
Elementary School, and we (inaudible) Thousand Palms. Also a brief
discussion of overcrowding and future school construction, and we discussed
this at length. And finally you know the issues with regard to the impact fees,
development fees. I'm not sure that these numbers are still current, but we
site 2003 numbers for impact fees for commercial and residential
development. We also give attention, some attention, to the private schools
and have identified those located in the City.
JMB In the private schools, you might add under Sacred Heart Catholic a
proposed high school. They're in escrow on the land across 1-10.
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RAS Yes, north of the City, across 1-10, they've announced that they're building
a Catholic high school over there.
JC Okay.
BAC And then when you get to the next page, you might just note that it's the
Palm Valley...Palm Desert campus, not the Coachella Valley campus on
page 43...Cal State.
(Inaudible)
RAS Yes, please.
JC Having to do now with the four colleges and universities that we're host to,
we discuss College of the Desert, Cal State San Bernardino campus, the
University of California extension, the Chapman University, and what those
facilities are now and long term. Of course, with the new bond issue if it
goes through, COD will be receiving some monies for important renovations
and expansions. Libraries, which the City has really championed and which
we discussed furthering perhaps a satellite library in the north end. We
discussed the relationship with the College and then discussed future
directions for schools and libraries. And then we have, I think, two goals for
the element, that educational and library facilities that City residents...provide
City residents with a wide range of high -quality services, which are physically
and financially accessible to all segments of the population. And a second
goal, that schools and library facilities that serve an important venues...that
serve as important venues for community, social, and cultural events and
that play an important role in community...enhancing community cohesion.
RAS Could we add to the library goal that the College of the Desert and the City
have the same library hours, make it more convenient for our residents?
JC We could make a policy out of that. That would be appropriate.
JF Maybe you could use the same language that you used in policy A, the City
shall continue to explore and advocate any reasonable means by which
College of the Desert and the City can maintain...
RAS Yeah, let's add that.
JF ...similar hours.
RAS So the hours...
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BAC Similar hours and services.
JF Yes.
RAS Yes, yes.
JF Uniform.
BAC Yes.
RAS Whatever.
JF And...
JMB And maybe we need to add, then, as the responsibility agency the College.
RAS Yes. I would say that they're the responsible ones.
JMB Right. Well, they're not listed...
JF And to the extent that it is an accredited institution of higher learning, we
might want to note the World Trade Center University as being planned north
of 1-10 off of Cook Street as well.
JC That's a good point.
JF Find out if it is accredited first, if you would.
BAC I'll bet it doesn't appear on any...
JF It's a bonafide question.
BAC Yeah, but it doesn't appear on any accreditation list.
JC We have, again, a full set of policies and programs to address all the issues.
I think that the added policy doesn't prompt a need for an additional program.
And I'd be glad to answer any questions you may have on this element.
RAS
I don't see that you identify anywhere in here, and maybe I'm wrong, the
schools that will be in the area that is currently Palm Springs Unified School
District.
JC The reason we haven't...
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RAS That's good, that's fine.
JC ...yes (inaudible)
RAS Fine. Is it necessary that it be in here that the College of the Desert will work
with Cal State San Bernardino/Palm Desert campus and University of
Riverside to make certain that the freshmen and sophomore classes are
(inaudible) okay...
BAC That's covered under their master plan agreement.
RAS Okay. Anything else on the schools? I'II entertain a motion to approve the
schools.
JF Is there anything in here about our ongoing efforts to coordinate between
COD, CalState, and UCR the development of the balance of the 150 acres
university site?
JC The element recognizes the UCR/CalState relationship, but that's the only
thing we really say in regard to that campus.
JF Well, we have a Master Plan Committee in place (inaudible) only built 25%
of that property. Everybody's hoping that it will develop into a full university,
and shouldn't we at least address it in the General Plan that we'll cooperate
and advocate and work with those agencies to master plan the entire...
JC To implement the master plan on that university.
JMB Under program 1 A (inaudible) to include that, working with Desert Sands and
(inaudible) college could be...
JC We could just add the colleges to the mix essentially, is that your
suggestion?
JF COD, UCR and CalState.
JC Perhaps a separate program would be...it would say in the policy and then
make a separate program for the higher...
JMB For the colleges.
JC ...for the colleges.
JF Yeah.
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RAS Okay, does that pretty well cover the schools? You've got a comment.
(Inaudible)
RAS Certainly, it's a public hearing.
MM My name's Myron MacLeod. I was here yesterday, and I...
RAS Would you give us your address?
MM Absolutely, sorry. 4035 Avenida Brisa, Rancho Santa Fe, California. 1 didn't
come prepared with any exhibits. I just wanted to mention that I just heard
the comment about some of the schools being up in the air. And when it's
appropriate, which I understand will be Wednesday morning, I would like to
address the Council about the land use issues again. I just did want to bring
to your attention while you're talking about schools, though, that our family
owns the 70 acres that's out there on Monterey and the future 35th, and there
has been a group of contiguous property owners that have been working
together out there for a very long period of time with...that attended all the
Planning Commission meetings, worked with Mr. Drell's department and
others, and also with the Palm Springs School District to come up with an
integrated plan that everybody agreed upon and that we thought would be
in the interest of the City. And I just didn't know...I just wanted you to be
aware that we are negotiating a contract with them, and all of the property
owners have been kind of working together on arterial flow and what we
thought the City would want. And I know there's kind of bad blood between
the City and the Palm...you know, an argument of what Palm Springs School
District can do. But I just wanted you to know that we've had ongoing
meetings with property owners to make this an easier process and one we
thought would work for the City.
JF You're talking about the elementary school site?
MM I'm talking about the K through 8 school.
JF Yeah.
RAS You're not talking about the high school.
MM Right.
JF The high school is the one that's up in the air.
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Okay, but I mean I just wanted you to know that we've been putting a lot of
work to have some cohesive plans so that...that we thought would work for
everybody, which I'II address more in the land use...
BAC I think that's been something that nobody has had a problem with at all.
JF There's no issue about the elementary school.
M Well, yesterday I was stunned to see that...l guess what I'm alluding to,
which might be more appropriate to address before Wednesday, is that part
of this cohesive meetings was land uses around the surrounding area.
Nobody wanted the school, but the MacLeods were willing to take it with the
assumption that we were going to have our mixed use and commercial
zoning left intact, and we were the only person there that wasn't trying to sell
their land and make a profit on houses. And yesterday I saw a proposal that
shocked me that said the MacLeod's remainder piece to the left side of the
K through 8 school would be now residential. And we had made all these
concessions...l'm not trying to imply there was any deal or understanding
with the school, but it was...we had gone to the Planning Commission and
where the school is the most palatable...those other developers that had
certain needs and so the school was just one integrated part of this. So we
were okay with taking the school because we weren't trying to make money
off of selling houses. But...so I just wanted you to know, which I would be
addressing on Wednesday, just to let you know that we had thought we had
been going through the right steps to have a cohesive plan that everybody
would be okay with.
JF Well, I think we heard your concern yesterday.
MM Okay, great.
JF The change to residential was really a conversation on how to keep our mix
for the whole North Sphere...
MM Right.
JF ...and when we were presented with pretty cogent arguments about why we
should leave it commercial, I think we decided to put it back in commercial...
MM Okay, and I (inaudible)
JF ...and asked you if you would consider a mixed use, and you said yes, so I
thought we were done.
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Okay, great, and I didn't mean to digress now. I knew you were focusing on
streets, but I just wanted you to know that we all have been working on that
school.
JF Great.
RAS Comments on the schools?
JMB Move for approval.
JF Second.
RAS Please vote.
RDK Motion carries by unanimous vote.
JC If we can move, then, to the first element of this chapter, which is on page
6-1. This is the water, sewer, and utilities element. It's important, but it's
also a fairly straightforward element. Same format of course...lot of
government code references. Then we go directly into the discussion of
domestic water. I should first say that this is distinctly different from the
water resources element, which talks about water supplies in a broader
sense, but it refers back to that element as well. CVWD, of course, is our
primary water purveyor. Myoma Dunes Water District is adjacent to us. I
don't believe they actually occur within the District, within the City limits, but
they service Bermuda Dunes area. We discuss ground water demand and
conservation efforts, including CVWD's new water management plan, and
the landscape ordinance of the City and other means to try to conserve water
used (inaudible) recycled water. Waste water treatment is discussed, and
the ongoing expansion of capacity of tertiary treated water for golf course
use and landscaping use. Septic tank usage in the planning area...we've
identified...we know that there have been problems in the past, not
necessarily in our area but elsewhere in the immediate vicinity with the
effects of malfunctioning septic tanks, and we emphasize the need to sewer
everybody if we can. We talk about the City sewer connection requirements
on page 5 and then discuss electrical service...again we have kind of a funny
situation with Edison providing service to us but also a portion of our city
being in the IID boundary. And I had kind of an interesting education when
I thought it would be easy to get IID or Edison to agree to have one service
provider for the CalState campus. And after a few meetings, that went
nowhere. So they are...we'll be dealing with both of those and perhaps the
competition enhances costs of service, etc. We discuss then IID and its
facilities as well, and then we speak to the issue of deregulation, which looks
like there may be more on the horizon in that regard so this snapshot may
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warrant some kind of consideration in the next few years. And then
opportunities for conservation. Also discuss natural gas. We host major
transmission lines going through the planning area, including immediately
south of and within, I think, the Union Pacific Railroad right of way. And also
talk about air quality issues associated with the use of natural gas in place
of liquid fossil fuels. Opportunities for conservation there as well. Then we
speak to telephone service, cable television service, which is now also
becoming a broad band service. Solid waste management and our provider
and certain...the conditions at the landfills that are available to us. And the
hopeful resolution of the issue with regard to Eagle Mountain and our access
to that in the long term, in the near to mid term rather. Recycling efforts and
the City's pretty good performance in that regard. And then we speak to
general...to future directions for water, sewer, and public facilities and have
been able to boil the goal down into a single goal, which is a full range of
water, sewer, and utility facilities and services that safely and adequately and
cost-effectively meet the immediate and long term needs of the City.
Question. On page 6-15, policy 14, would it be possible to change that
language to instead of "exploring the potential for assuming ownership of
local electric transmission and distribution" put as our goal "explore and to
the extent practical encourage a reduction in overall energy rates within the
Palm Desert service territory."
JC Means by which?
JF I mean, we pretty much beat this one to death.
BAC Yeah.
JF Voted unanimously that that wasn't the best way to reduce...
RAS We're not going to do it, so...
JF But I think it's still our goal to reduce power rates for residents.
RAS If we can, sure, absolutely. I just don't know how we're going to do it.
JC Okay, we'll enhance that policy. Any other questions?
RAS Alright, with that change, I'II entertain a motion.
BAC So moved.
JF Second.
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RAS Please vote.
RDK Motion carries by unanimous vote.
JC The next element would be, then, the public buildings and facilities element,
which follows immediately thereafter on page 16, 6-16.
JMB Which page?
JC 6-16. And the introductory material you see on the first page, and then we
go into a discussion, a brief description of public buildings and facilities, the
City Hall and the Civic Center, the Corporate Yard and that maintenance
facility, the Palm Desert Community Center, the Joslyn Senior Center, the
Visitor Information Center...references the fire stations and the police
stations in just general terms and then references the reader back to that
element. And it also...other City buildings...we reference briefly educational
facilities, schools K through 12, colleges and universities, and again refer
back to schools and libraries element for more detailed discussion of those
facilities. Then we talk about utility infrastructure and the, again, the CVWD,
Edison, IID substations, wells, those kinds of facilities that we don't
necessarily have a lot of control over because as lead agencies they can
implement them themselves in many instances, but at least we have some
policies and programs that we don't have thoughtlessly placed substations
and if we're going to have well sites and utility boxes, that maybe they can
be done in a fashion that doesn't obstruct line of sight along intersections
and isn't particularly...isn't too offensive. These things tend to sit out right in
the middle of your line of vision, so landscaping, placement, those sorts of
things may reduce the impact they have.
JMB John.
JC Yes.
JMB On 18, where you're talking about the new Visitors Center and it will also
house the Palm Desert Chamber of Commerce, and you say facilities will
include...I think that needs to be defined a little bit more that it will be a multi-
purpose building including the Chamber of Commerce...
RAS Chamber of Commerce, yeah...
JMB ...and facilities, which will be another wing of that building some way. The
Chamber isn't going to house it, it's going to be a separate part of that
building.
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JC Okay. Do we need to add any additional, other than clarification...do we
need to add any more information there, then, do you think?
JMB Well, I think it needs where you just say it will house the Chamber of
Commerce facilities will include but it's separate facilities, not...the Chamber
of Commerce will not be managing those facilities.
RAS A separate facility with...we'll have the Chamber and meeting facilities.
JC Okay. I may...probably wish to bring that back to you just to make sure I've
captured Councilmember Benson's...
(Inaudible)
JMB Maybe Sheila can give you some wording for how to word that.
JC I think we've covered everything there. The goal, two goals recommended.
Let me back up. Under...we do speak briefly to critical structures, public
facilities, including things like all-weather bridges, fire stations, things that
we're going to need in case of an emergency, either flooding or earthquakes,
that sort of thing. And then a discussion of the future...of future
directions...we reference the capital improvements program and the need to
coordinate these general plan programs with the capital improvements
program. Construction tax and those sorts of things, and recommended
annual review of CIP and developer fees to make sure we're keeping up.
JF
John...to jump back to Jean's point. I think you should leave the Visitor
Center/Information Center freestanding and put under other City buildings
that there will be a community meeting building developed at the 12-acre
site, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the Chamber. It won't house it,
it's not under the same roof, it's a separate freestanding building...that's my
understanding.
RAS It's one building that has the Chamber in it and a community...
JF No, but it has nothing to do with the Visitors Information Center.
RAS No.
JMB No.
JF It's a separate building, so it should appear under other City buildings, not
under the Visitors Center.
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JC (Inaudible) leave the Visitors Center discussion...just limit it to that and move
both the Chamber and the multi -purpose...
JF Right...that's another building.
RAS Okay.
RSK I have a couple here.
RAS Yes, sir.
RSK On 6-24, policy 7, the City shall encourage underground electrical/power
lines to the greatest extent practical and also talked a little bit 7A about
(inaudible) Southern California Edison and Imperial Irrigation District
(inaudible). Two comments. Why don't we include all the utilities?
JF For undergrounding?
RSK That's the first comment.
JF For undergrounding?
RSK Huh?
JF For undergrounding?
RSK Yes, it says nothing about telephone.
JC We'll reference all overhead utilities.
RSK (Inaudible) cable
JF Good point.
RSK And then the other one...the other thing is that "shall encourage"...I think
that's a little bit too light. I mean, we're not going to allow anybody to do
overhead construction.
RAS Existing.
(Inaudible)
BAC (Inaudible) to existing. Encourage the undergrounding of existing...
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RSK Yeah, that would make more sense, but it gives you...it makes the...it gives
you the impression that you might allow that...the same way where it talks
about...it sounds like well if they determine that it costs too much we might
let them (inaudible) Hopefully we're not going to allow even the high-tension
lines like (inaudible) worry about not undergrounding because it costs so
much, well we're probably not going to let them put any more up.
RAS All new development will be undergrounded.
JC Would you like a statement to that effect?
RAS Yeah.
JF Yeah.
RAS All new development will be undergrounded, and the City shall encourage
the undergrounding of existing power, cable...
RSK (Inaudible) all new developments are required to put utilities underground.
RAS Period.
JC Okay, we'll add that policy to the element.
RAS Anything else? Are we ready to vote on the part of the plan? Is there a
motion?
JF I'II move for approval.
RAS Second?
RSK Second.
RAS Please vote. I think that this is probably the last element that we have time
to go over, but I will ask Mr. Tom Noble if he'd like to address the Council.
RDK Motion carries by unanimous vote.
(Inaudible)
RAS Sir?
(Inaudible)
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RAS Whatever you want to do.
RSK I have a comment.
RAS Okay.
FEBRUARY 27, 2004
RSK We did announce, you know, on the Agenda, that we were going to do
environmental resources, hazards, and public services. It would be helpful
to me if I knew at each meeting, ahead of time, what (inaudible)...
RAS We're going to go over.
RSK ...and I would review them for the meeting.
RAS Okay, Mr. Drell, did you hear that comment?
(Inaudible)
BAC Question. I assume that at our next meeting, we're intending to get through
the rest of all this stuff, right?
JC Well, we should set a realistic agenda and prioritize as you see appropriate.
RSK Could we have some kind of...tell us ahead of time what order we're going
to go?
JC Well, I have a personal bias that I think if we can resolve the land use issues
and land use map at the University Park area, that will then free us up to run
through the rest of the...
BAC Well, I'd like to get the rest of this stuff done.
RSK Well, we jumped around.
JC Okay.
RSK I'd like to know what we're going to...
(Inaudible)
JF Well, we've set two additional meetings, one for next Wednesday for two
hours and one for March 15'h that is open ended and we'll go as long as we
need to go to get it done. Is that a realistic time frame?
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JC Yes, I think so.
FEBRUARY 27, 2004
RAS The question is, where do you want to go next time?
PD (Inaudible)
JF I thought that was when we were going to get out map back.
PD Huh?
JF I thought that was when we were going to get our map back.
PD
Exactly. (Inaudible) we should (inaudible) at least an hour of the meeting
next time (inaudible) try to deal with it (inaudible) at a minimum we'll go...if
we can do an hour for these other things and then...which one do you want
to do first?
RSK Start in the front...are we going to start in the beginning and then work
(inaudible)
PD No, do you want to do the land use thing first or do you want to do the...
RSK Well, you do the...
PD It's up to you.
RSK If we do the land use and get that done, then are we going to start at the
front and go through...
JC
RSK
JC
RSK
PD
JF
Sure.
...and not jump to the back...
Sure, however you prefer.
...then I know what to prepare myself for.
If we can go with an hour, we will try to delineate the specific elements that
we will be covering.
And the only two real issues that I see in the land use, of note, are whether
we do 28 acres in the little pocket on Mr. Noble's property or not and Mr.
Marix getting comfortable with the plan and possibly Mr. Beaty or Brady
seeing whether his apartments pencil out in our new criteria or not.
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RSK What does that have to do with us doing a general plan, what somebody
wants to propose?
JF I was just saying those were the points of controversy.
RSK Those are the points of controversy, but we need to look at the master plan,
we need to look at the...
JF Okay. But even with those out, then I think it should be less than an hour.
PD Yeah, I don't think (inaudible)
RAS Is there a motion to adjourn til next Wednesday?
JMB So moved.
RAS Is there a second?
JF Second.
RAS Please vote. Council stands adjourned.
RDK Motion carries by unanimous vote, 12:25 p.m.
The following actions were taken and/or direction was given at this public hearing:
1. Traffic Analysis.
a) Desert Bicycle Club Correspondence
With City Council concurrence, directed staff to contact this group to discuss
their input as it relates to the proposed Pedestrians, Bicycles and Golf Carts
portion of the General Plan Circulation Element.
b) Rural Street — Calle de los Campensinos (Palm Valley Channel
Access Road)
With City Council concurrence, staff asked to contact the residents and look
at different ways of improving the surface of said roadway, further asking
staff to advise the Coachella Valley Water District of the City's intent.
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c) Sianalization
FEBRUARY 27, 2004
With City Council concurrence, provide a written policy as to where traffic
signals would likely be considered (e.g. the intersection of two arterial
streets) and where they would not likely be considered in the future, as well
as providing alternatives for controlling circulation in other situations.
d) Maximum Intersection Improvement
With City Council concurrence, directed that: i) Level of Service "C" would be
the overall goal for intersection improvement, understanding that in order to
balance the impact of an intersection on the community with the benefit it
provides, at certain times, level of service may fall below that of "C"; ii) a goal
of making improvements to typical arterial intersections (i.e., signals and
equipment, landscaping) be as if they were being made at the ultimate build -
out distance in order to preserve the overall investment in that project.
2. Circulation Element (Draft General Plan Section III-47)
a) Traffic Calming Devices
Ensure that the Plan emphasizes use of "Traffic Calming Devices" and
provide examples.
b) All -Weather Crossinas (Policy 9 and Program 9.A, Section 11I-86)
Effect a manner of setting out priorities for such projects as they relate to
safety concerns —coordinating this policy with Emergency Preparedness and
Capital Improvement Program.
ADD PROGRAM 9.B:
It is the City's goal to get at -grade crossings at every intersection across the
Whitewater Channel within the next 10-15 years.
c) Identifiable Addresses
ADD a policy for ensuring identifiable addressing requirements are met for
all location addresses to further enhance traffic circulation, especially in the
retail/commercial segments of the community.
Councilmember Benson moved to accept the Traffic Analysis and the
Circulation Element, with the additional direction given for each, as shown above.
Motion was seconded by Councilman Ferguson and carried by 5-0 vote.
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RECESS observed from 11:25 a.m. to 11:40 a.m.
3. Police & Fire Protection Element (Draft General Plan Section VI-26)
a) Citizens On Patrol Program (COPS) (Section VI-29)
Change the wording of the last paragraph of this page to reflect that COPS
is currently in existence with the number of participants and their activities,
as well as reflecting COPS current existence in any other areas of
discussion. (Mr. Criste to contact Patricia Scully for this information.)
b) Additional or New Space for Police/Sheriff's Services
Expand upon Program 2.A to include appropriate language that identifies the
need for expanded operational and training facilities' space for police
services, adding the County of Riverside to the list of "Responsible
Agencies," with said discussion also included in the narrative for Police as it
pertains to "Need for Future Facilities."
c) Police Staffing Ratio
Leave language in Policy 3 as is.
d) School Districts
Ensure any discussion that includes mention of "School District" to include
both Desert Sands Unified and Palm Springs Unified.
e) Palm Desert Station No. 67 (Section VI-32)
Note that the project to provide "Necessary expansion for additional crew
quarters..." is currently underway.
Mayor Pro Tem Crites moved to accept the Police & Fire Protection Element
with the additions/changes as noted above. Motion was seconded by Councilman
Ferguson and carried by 5-0 vote.
4. Schools and Libraries Element (Draft General Plan Section VI-38)
a) Public Schools (Section VI-39)
Add new DSUSD Elementary being constructed at the Freedom Park site,
at Country Club and Oasis.
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b) Private Schools (Section VI-42)
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Add under Sacred Heart Catholic School a proposed high school north of the
City, across I-10.
c) Higher Education (Section VI-43)
Note that the CSU should be identified as "California State University, San
Bernardino, Palm Desert Campus" (instead of Coachella Valley Campus).
d) Libraries (Section VI-47)
Add a Policy to state: "The City shall continue to explore and advocate any
reasonable means by which College of the Desert and the City can maintain
uniform hours and services. Responsible Agency: College of the Desert."
e) Higher Education (Section VI-48)
i) Expand language on Policy/Program 7 to include, to the extent that
it is an accredited institution of higher learning, the proposed World
Trade Center University being planned for north of 1-10.
ii) Expand the Policy and add a separate program to emphasize that the
City will continue to endeavor to coordinate between COD, CSU, and
UCR, and will cooperate and advocate to implement the Master Plan
of Development for the balance of the 150-acre University site.
Councilmember Benson moved to accept the Schools and Libraries Element,
with the additions/changes as noted above. Motion was seconded by Councilman
Ferguson and carried by 5-0 vote.
5. Water. Sewer and Utilities Element (Draft General Plan Section VI-1)
a) Policy 14 — Local Electric Transmission (Section VI-15)
Change language to state: "...explore and, to the extent practical, encourage
means by which a reduction in overall energy rates within the Palm Desert
service territory can be achieved."
Mayor Pro Tem Crites moved to accept the Water, Sewer and Utilities Element
with the change as noted above. Motion was seconded by Councilman, Ferguson
and carried by 5-0 vote.
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6. Public Buildinas and Facilities Element (Draft General Plan Section VI-16)
a) Visitor Information Center (Section VI-18)
i) Limit the Visitor Information Center discussion only to its current and
future freestanding status at the southwest corner of El Paseo and
Highway 111. (Mr. Criste to contact Sheila Gilligan for appropriate
language.)
ii) Move all reference to the Chamber of Commerce, that will be housed
within a separate, freestanding Multi -Purpose Building at the southwest
corner of El Paseo and Highway 111, including meeting facilities for
community organizations, to the section entitled "Other City Buildings."
b) Policy 7 - Underaroundinq (Section VI-24)
Change language to state: "All utilities for new development will be
undergrounded, and the City shall encourage the undergrounding of all
existing overhead utilities to the extent practical."
Councilman Ferguson moved to accept the Public Buildings and Facilities
Element, as amended above. Motion was seconded by Councilman Kelly and carried
by 5-0 vote.
VIII. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - B
None
IX. ADJOURNMENT
Councilmember Benson moved to adjourn the meeting at 12:25 p.m. to Wednesday,
March 3, 2004, at 9:30 a.m. Motion was seconded by Ferguson and carried by a 5-0 vote.
ATTEST:
HELLE D. KLASSEN, CITY CLLRK
CITY OF PALM DESERT, CALIFORNIA
t?C‘ZilL—d:
ROBERT A. SPIgGEL, IGIAYOR
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