HomeMy WebLinkAbout2005-05-26MINUTES
REGULAR PALM DESERT CITY COUNCIL MEETING
THURSDAY, MAY 26, 2005
CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER
I. CALL TO ORDER - 3:00 P.M.
Mayor Crites convened the meeting at 3:00 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Present:
Councilmember Jean M. Benson
Mayor Pro Tem Jim Ferguson
Councilman Richard S. Kelly
Councilman Robert A. Spiegel
Mayor Buford A. Crites
Also Present:
Carlos L. Ortega, City Manager
Robert W. Hargreaves, Deputy City Attorney
Sheila R. Gilligan, ACM for Community Services/Acting City Clerk
Justin McCarthy, ACM for Redevelopment
Mark D. Greenwood, City Engineer
Amir Hamidzadeh, Director of Building & Safety
Paul S. Gibson, Director of Finance/City Treasurer
Duane K. Munson, Interim Director of Human Resources
Michael J. Errante, Director of Public Works
David Yrigoyen, Director of Redevelopment & Housing
Robert P. Kohn, Director of Special Programs
Walt Holloway, Battalion Chief, Palm Desert/Riverside County Fire Dept.
Mary P. Gates, Administrative Secretary
III. ADJOURN TO CLOSED SESSION
Request for Closed Session:
Conference with Real Property Negotiator pursuant to Government Code
Section 54956.8:
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Property: 10 acres ±, NEC Country Club Drive/Desert Willow Drive
Negotiating Parties:
Agency: Carlos L. Ortega/City of Palm Desert/Palm Desert
Redevelopment Agency
Property Owner: Sanderson J. Ray/Desert Springs Partners
Under Negotiation: x Price x Terms of Payment
2) Property: 30-acre Site, NEC Portola Avenue/Gerald Ford Drive
Negotiating Parties:
Agency: Carlos L. Ortega/City of Palm Desert/Palm Desert
Redevelopment Agency
Property Owner: Michael Marix/Comerstone Developers, Inc.
Under Negotiation: x Price x Terms of Payment
3) Property: Lease Property - Parkview Professional Office Complex,
73710 Fred Waring Drive, Suite No. 201, Palm Desert
Negotiating Parties:
Agency: Carlos L. Ortega/Paul S. Gibson/City of Palm Desert
Property Owner: City of Palm Desert
Other Parties: Virginia Waring International Piano Competition
Under Negotiation: x Price x Terms of Payment
4) Property: NEC Tamarisk Row Drive/Country Club Drive (Freedom Park)
Negotiating Parties:
Agency: Carlos L. Ortega/City of Palm Desert
Property Owner: City of Palm Desert
Other Parties: Sandra Schulz/Ice Empire
Under Negotiation: x Price x Terms of Payment
Conference with Legal Counsel regarding significant exposure to litigation
pursuant to Govemment Code Section 54956.9(b):
Number of potential cases: 2
Upon motion by Kelly, second by Benson, and a 5-0 vote of the City Council, the
following items were added to the Closed Session Agenda:
Conference with Legal Counsel regarding existing litigation pursuant to
Government Code Section 54956.9(a):
a) City of Palm Desert v. Van Alstine, Riverside County Superior Court Case
No. INC 035579
Conference with Real Property Negotiator pursuant to Government Code
Section 54956.8:
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5) Property: Lease Property - Parkview Professional Office Complex, 73-
710 Fred Waring Drive, Palm Desert
Negotiating Parties:
Agency: Carlos L. Ortega/City of Palm Desert
Property Owner: City of Palm Desert
Other Parties: Nestande Baxley LLC
Under Negotiation: x Price x Terms of Payment
Councilman Kelly moved to adjourn the meeting to Closed Session at 3:03 p.m.
Motion was seconded by Ferguson and carried by a 5-0 vote. Mayor Crites reconvened
the meeting at 4:00 p.m.
IV. RECONVENE REGULAR MEETING - 4:00 P.M.
A. REPORT ON ACTION FROM CLOSED SESSION.
Mr. Hargreaves announced that the City Council, in Closed Session,
authorized a lease with Nestande Baxley for a suite in the Parkview
Professional Office Complex.
With City Council concurrence, Mayor Crites suspended the remainder of the
Agenda at this point in order to consider City Council Public Hearing "A".
Please see that portion of the Minutes for Council discussion and action.
V. AWARDS, PRESENTATIONS, AND APPOINTMENTS
None (See Redevelopment Agency Agenda Item IX.)
VI. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. MINUTES of the Regular City Council Meeting of May 12, 2005.
Rec: Approve as presented.
B. CLAIMS AND DEMANDS AGAINST THE CITY TREASURY - Warrant
Nos. 232, 233, 237, and 240.
Rec: Approve as presented.
C. COMMITTEE AND COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES.
1. Art In Public Places Commission Meeting of March 16, 2005.
2. Public Safety Commission Meeting of April 13, 2005.
3. Youth Committee Meeting of April 5, 2005.
Rec: Receive and file.
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D. REQUEST FOR ADOPTION of Resolutions Authorizing the Destruction of
Paper Records from the Department of Building & Safety that Have Been
Digitally Imaged.
Rec: Waive further reading and adopt: 1) Resolution No. 05-36 for
January 2005 Records; 2) Resolution No. 05-37 for February 2005
Records.
E. REQUEST FOR AWARD OF CONTRACT for Landscape Architecture
Construction Documents for Fred Waring Drive Widening Soundwall
Between California Avenue and Elkhorn Trail (Contract No. C23670A,
Project No. 654-01).
Rec: By Minute Motion: 1) Award the subject contract to David Volz Design,
Fountain Valley, California, in the amount of $33,300 and authorize
a 10% contingency for the project; 2) authorize the Mayor to execute
said contract.
F. REQUEST FOR AUTHORIZATION to Accept Proposal for Annual Color for
El Paseo Medians and Civic Center Park (Contract No. C23440, Project
No. 930-XX).
Rec: By Minute Motion, accept the proposal from Colorama Wholesale
Nursery, Azusa, California, to grow and provide annual color for Fall
2005 and Spring 2006 for the El Paseo Medians and Civic Center
Park at a cost of $20,330 — funds are available in Account
Nos. 110-4610-453-2190 and 110-4611-453-3370.
G. REQUEST FOR ACCEPTANCE OF WORK for Contract No. C21140B —
Construction of the Palma Village Neighborhood Park (James E. Simon Co.,
Indio, CA).
Rec: By Minute Motion, accept the work as complete and authorize the
City Clerk to file a Notice of Completion for the subject project.
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H. CONSIDERATION of the Library Promotion Committee's Recommendation
for Installation of Internet Wireless "Hot Spot" Equipment for the Palm Desert
Public Library.
Rec: By Minute Motion, concur with the recommendation of the Library
Promotion Committee to approve of the installation of Internet
wireless "Hot Spot" equipment for the Palm Desert Public Library and
authorize expenditure of funds for same in an amount not to exceed
$25,000 from the FY 2004/05 Library Fund Budget, Account
No. 452-4662-454-4001 — funds are available for this purpose and no
additional appropriation is required.
I. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS:
1. Report on Building Height Exceptions
Removed for separate consideration under Section VII, Consent
Items Held Over. Please see that portion of the Minutes for Council
discussion and action.
2. Update on Proposed New Sheriff's Facility
Councilmember Benson removed Item 1-1 for separate consideration under
Section VII, Consent Items Held Over.
Upon motion by Spiegel, second by Kelly, the remainder of the Consent Calendar
as approved as presented by a 5-0 vote.
VII. CONSENT ITEMS HELD OVER
I. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS:
1. Report on Building Height Exceptions
Councilmember Benson said she was concerned with buildings in the
City's North Sphere, and staffs listing of projects in that area showed
that half had already received a height exception. She did not feel
lowering a building, setting it back, and putting it next to a higher one
was an architectural feature, and she hoped height exceptions would
still receive Council consideration. She added that this report was not
what she had in mind when she expressed her concems previously.
Councilmember Benson moved to, by Minute Motion, receive and file the report.
Motion was seconded by Spiegel and carried by a 4-1 vote, with Councilmember Benson
voting NO.
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VIII. RESOLUTIONS
None
IX. ORDINANCES
For Introduction:
None
For Adoption:
None
X. NEW BUSINESS
A. REQUEST FOR ADOPTION OF RESOLUTIONS APPROVING PAYMENT
BY THE PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY FOR ALL OR PART
OF THE COST OF THE INSTALLATION AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE
PORTOLA AVENUE BRIDGE AT THE WHITEWATER CHANNEL (JOINT
CONSIDERATION WITH THE PALM DESERT
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY).
Mayor/Chairman Crites noted the staff report and recommendation in the
packets.
Mayor Pro TemNice Chairman Ferguson moved to waive further reading and adopt:
1) City Council Resolution No. 05-35, approving payment by the Palm Desert
Redevelopment Agency for all or part of the cost of the installation and construction of the
Portola Avenue Bridge at the Whitewater Channel; 2) Redevelopment Agency Resolution
No. 501, approving payment by the Palm Desert Redevelopment Agency for all or part of
the cost of the installation and construction of the Portola Avenue Bridge at the Whitewater
Channel. Motion was seconded by Kelly and carried by a 5-0 vote.
B. REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF THE INITIATION OF PROCEEDINGS TO
LEVY AND COLLECT ANNUAL ASSESSMENTS AND TO GRANT
PRELIMINARY APPROVAL OF ENGINEER'S REPORT FOR THE
PALM DESERT CONSOLIDATED LANDSCAPE AND LIGHTING DISTRICT
FOR FISCAL YEAR 2005/06.
Mayor Crites noted the staff report and recommendation in the packets.
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Councilman Spiegel moved to waive further reading and adopt: 1) Resolution
No 05-38, initiating proceedings for the levy and collection of annual assessments for the
Palm Desert Consolidated Landscape and Lighting District, FY 2005/06; 2) Resolution
No. 05-39, declaring the intent to levy and collect annual assessments for the Palm Desert
Consolidated Landscape and Lighting District, and granting preliminary approval of the
Engineer's Report for FY 2005/06. Motion was seconded by Kelly and carried by a 5-0
vote.
C. CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO REGULATE SHOPPING
CARTS AND CONTRACTING FOR A MUNICIPAL RETRIEVAL SERVICE.
The following is a verbatim transcript of this portion of the meeting.
Key
BAC Buford A. Crites, Mayor
JF Jim Ferguson, Mayor Pro Tem
GR Gary Rosenblum, Risk Manager
RSK Richard S. Kelly, Councilman
CLO Carlos L. Ortega, City Manager
RAS Robert A. Spiegel, Councilman
MPG Mary P. Gates, Administrative Secretary
BAC Item C - Consideration of an Ordinance to Regulate Shopping Carts. We have a
staff report. Are there questions on this?
JF Where are our hot spots, as you put it?
GR Those are known by Code Compliance and Public Works. They've told me one of
the hot spots would be near bus stops along Highway 111 near the Palms to Pines.
It's a place where there are shopping carts and bus stops in close proximity, so
that's one of them. It's usually a combination of the retail with the carts and
apartments or other types of residential where you can walk the cart to, but they turn
up all over the City apparently on an ongoing basis.
BAC If I might follow up on Jim's question...my bet would be that a fairly high percentage
of Palm Desert residents are shopping cart violators. The difference is that most
of us only violate it to get to our car and leave them sit in the parking lot. If our cars
weren't in the parking lot, the shopping carts would be wherever our cars were.
Most people don't take them and put them in those little slots where we're supposed
to leave them and all that stuff. So people, then, who don't have cars and go to the
bus stop leave them at the bus stop. So how are we going to fix the need for
people to be able to get groceries from a grocery store to a bus stop?
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GR Well, one method...
BAC I mean, they're not hauling these down the street just because they're pleasurable
to drive around or walk around with.
GR Right. The way the California State law on shopping carts currently exists, the
shopping carts are the property...
BAC I didn't ask that question.
GR ...well, I'm getting to the answer...
BAC Okay.
GR ...are the property of the retailer. As long as the cart is on the retailer's property, the
person hasn't broken the law, so they can place it anywhere on the property and still
be legal. As soon as they leave the premises, they've now broken the law with the
shopping cart unless the person has written permission from the retailer to take the
cart. So one option for retailers who want to solve that problem would be to allow
people to get written permission to take the cart off the property.
BAC You did not answer my question.
GR Well...
BAC If we're going to find some way to make it more difficult for people with shopping
carts to leave a shopping center with the shopping carts, then we are exacerbating
the problem at the edge of the property for people to get groceries from there to
wherever...l'm not arguing that we shouldn't have them next to bus stops. The point
is, they appear there for a reason. How will we solve the reason?
GR Well, that is one reason why shopping carts are abandoned throughout the City.
The solution to that would reside with the retailer because they are the owners of
the shopping carts.
RSK May I ask the Mayor a question?
BAC Yes.
RSK With this ordinance, aren't we making it so that the retailer has to provide a way to
make that happen?
BAC I guess, although I noted one of the options in there was this program in Las Vegas
or somewhere where it shoots off electricity or triggers alarms if they go off -site with
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them and all the rest of that. And I don't have a grumble in the world about trying to
get rid of shopping carts. My point is there's people who use...
RSK I see your point, but what I'm saying is the main thing that we're doing here, I felt
like maybe I didn't read it carefully enough, was that we're allowing the people to do
what they do, but we're making it so that the retailers are responsible to see that
they get them back.
BAC Right, and I don't have an objection to that, but one of the options was for the
retailer to make sure they never get off the parking lot, and I have a concern for
shoppers and citizens who actually need, whether it's at the mall or anywhere else,
to get stuff away from the store, which is not an excuse to leave stuff littering our
City.
GR And you're saying that this would be for the individuals who don't have access to a
vehicle, their own vehicle.
BAC Yes. I mean, if you've got access to a vehicle, you're not leaving a shopping cart
at the bus stop.
JF I'll give you a good example. When we approved the 99¢ Store, which apparently
has some very affordable groceries, folks will take the bus in to shop there, take the
shopping cart back to your bus shelter in front of Baker's Square, leave the cart on
the grass, and take their bus home.
RSK I observed that particular location. In fact, that's the first one where 1 really
observed them taking a shopping cart to a bus shelter. I was going to look
into...that bus shelter happens to be quite a ways from the 99¢ Store, but that's
who's going there...
JF Right.
RSK ...and I was going to look into seeing if we didn't need a bus shelter closer to the
99¢ Store so there wouldn't be a need to take the shopping cart over there. I kind
of read this that we're putting most of the responsibility on the retailer, and the 99¢
Store would be a good example that they should have somebody check that bus
stop every couple hours or so.
GR That's actually the feasible solution is that the retailer would have the...you know,
exert the labor to go out and find the carts and bring them back. The difficulty
comes when the retailer provides no resource to go out and bring them back, and
they remain where they are for up to a week or so until our Public Works people get
around to taking time out from the other things they do to pick up shopping carts
and bring them back.
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BAC And I'm not trying to suggest that I differ from Richard at all in terms of what we
intend. My only concern is that folks who have a car and drive to a parking lot
obviously aren't impacted by this because we, "we" in the generic sense, tend to
leave shopping carts all over parking lots, and they come and tidy them up. But I
don't want to make life more difficult for those people who aren't fortunate enough
to have that ability.
JF And the reason I asked you where the hot spots were was I didn't know...this didn't
appear to me to be an epidemic type problem, just a spotty one, and if we could
work with the owners of the 99¢ Store and wherever the other spots might be...we
can always pass an ordinance, but maybe they can come into voluntary compliance,
and if that doesn't work, we could take a look at an ordinance.
GR Well, some retailers in the City have already contracted with a cart retrieval service,
and they're making that effort. Those are usually done at a corporate or a regional
level. A lot of retailers leave that up to the individual stores, and whether or not the
manager at that store wishes to exert the resources, expend the resources, or not
is up to them, and if they don't, the resources are spent by us instead.
JF But have we made the effort to contact them and see if they would be willing to
come into voluntary compliance?
GR No, because we haven't had any...it's not a Code issue unless there's an ordinance
that they're breaking. So right now we're just collecting and, you know, l was asked
to go forward with ways that we could reduce the amount of carts in the City, and
those lead to the recommendations.
CLO Mr. Mayor, what staff is recommending, not the ultimate but that it be self -policing
before they would come back with some more severe requirements. That's what
I read in the report. I mean, he talks about, you know, you could have various types
of enforcement issues, but I think what staff is saying is that what they're
recommending is something that would be self -policing initially.
GR Yes, the ordinance...well, what I'm recommending here is that we consider
developing an ordinance which would be something that would be performance
oriented, that we don't specify exactly what the retailers must do, only that they
make the effort to keep the carts off the streets, and the proof of whether the plan
is effective is whether or not the number of carts on the streets goes down. The
second level of activity that we could do would be to hire a retrieval service to
ensure that the carts that do get left out there get picked up in a timely manner and
that the residents have a single phone number to call and the carts would get picked
up right away. Right now, if they call the City, it may be a week before the City can
get to it. And then the third element in the recommendation has to do with cost
recovery for that service if we go that far.
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RAS If I'm reading this correctly, you (inaudible)
GR Well, that was my recommendation. That's an option. It could be...right now with
our current rate of collection, the cart retrieval service that I talked to, which is the
significant player in this field who contracts with several other, many dozens of
other, cities around the State, they estimate $3 a cart. That's approximately
between five and six thousand a year for us.
RAS (inaudible)
GR Right. But, you know, there's no reason we will be.
JF Pardon me. The recommendation is to adopt an ordinance, but I didn't see an
ordinance in the packet.
GR Yes...I'm trying to get a sense of the Council in terms of what type of ordinance you
would prefer. A number of cities have very particular ordinances that state
absolutely what has to be on the cart in terms of signage, the size of the sign, the
type of lettering in terms of who owns the cart, signs that say it is against the law to
remove the cart from the property. Some cities, like Las Vegas, require smart carts,
which are electronic shopping carts. A lot of cities have gone through a lot of effort
to have a lot of different kinds of ordinances with a lot of very specific regulations
on the retailers. I felt that in our case, you would probably prefer to not be as
specific in what you require of the retailers and let them come up with their own
performance oriented plans. So I offered that as my recommendation.
RAS I would move that we approve our Risk Manager's recommendation and try this for
six months at our expense at approximately $3,000 and see where we stand.
RSK And with the primary responsibility on the retailer?
RAS Well, we could ask the retailer, yes. I don't know that you're going to get the guy
from Von's to...
RSK But you've got to take a crack at it.
RAS Well, yeah, sure, but it's not like there's nine million carts out there. That's my
motion.
RSK Second.
BAC I would...I think that's a good way to go at it and just note that most of the people
at least who are using these shopping carts are using these shopping carts because
they've just bought stuff in Palm Desert, so...
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RAS (inaudible) their home
BAC That's a different issue. Okay, please vote.
MPG Motion carries by a 4-1 vote, with Mayor Pro Tem Ferguson voting NO.
D. REQUEST FOR AWARD OF CONTRACT FOR LANDSCAPE
MAINTENANCE SERVICES — CONSOLIDATED LANDSCAPE
MAINTENANCE AREA NO. 1 (CONTRACT NO. C23600, PROJECT
NO. 901-)0).
Councilman Spiegel moved to, by Minute Motion, continue this matterto the meeting
of June 9, 2005. Motion was seconded by Kelly and carried by a 5-0 vote.
E. REQUEST FOR AWARD OF CONTRACT FOR LANDSCAPE
MAINTENANCE SERVICES — CONSOLIDATED LANDSCAPE
MAINTENANCE AREA NO. 2 (CONTRACT NO. C23610, PROJECT
NO. 902-XX).
Councilman Spiegel moved to, by Minute Motion, continue this matterto the meeting
of June 9, 2005. Motion was seconded by Kelly and carried by a 5-0 vote.
F. REQUEST FOR AWARD OF CONTRACT FOR LANDSCAPE
MAINTENANCE SERVICES — CONSOLIDATED LANDSCAPE
MAINTENANCE AREA NO. 3 (CONTRACT NO. C23620, PROJECT
NO. 903-XX).
Mayor Crites noted the report and recommendation in the packets.
Councilman Kelly moved to, by Minute Motion: 1) Reject bids as non -responsive
from Pac West Land Care, Inc., Garza Landscaping, Inc., Kirkpatrick Landscaping
Services, Inc., Liberty Landscaping, Inc., and Oasis Landscaping & Tree Service; 2) award
the subject contract to Steven Burt & Associates, Inc., Bermuda Dunes, California, in the
amount of $96,000 and authorize the Mayor to execute same. Motion was seconded by
Spiegel and carried by a 5-0 vote.
G. REQUEST FOR AWARD OF CONTRACT FOR LANDSCAPE
MAINTENANCE SERVICES — CONSOLIDATED LANDSCAPE
MAINTENANCE AREA NO. 6 (CONTRACT NO. C23630, PROJECT
NO. 906-XX).
Councilman Spiegel moved to, by Minute Motion, continue this matterto the meeting
of June 9, 2005. Motion was seconded by Kelly and carried by a 5-0 vote.
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XI. CONTINUED BUSINESS
A. CONSIDERATION OF A LETTER FROM DESERT BREEZES
HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION (Continued from the meeting of April 28,
2005).
Public Works Director Michael Errante noted that the letter had been
generated because of the wall in front of Desert Breezes which frontages
Fred Waring Drive. There were two sections of the wall, east and west. On
the west portion of the wall, the sound study identified mitigation
requirements, but there were none identified on the east portion. Staff
currently had authorization to build the west half only, and Desert Breezes
was requesting that the entire length be built. He said he had met recently
with Mayor Crites and Mayor Pro Tem Ferguson to discuss options, and he
requested that this matter be continued to allow him additional time to
research the various costs for these options.
Upon question by Councilmember Benson, Mr. Errante responded that both
east and west portions were evaluated in the sound study, and only the west
portion was identified as requiring mitigation.
Councilmember Benson moved to, by Minute Motion, continue this matter to the
meeting of June 9, 2005.
MS. CINDY FINERTY, 43592 Via Badalona, Palm Desert, stated that Desert
Breezes was approached by the City and requested a meeting with the
Board. Two of the Board members met with two representatives of WEC
(the City's consultant) and two representatives of the City's Redevelopment
Agency. She said they were shown a drawing at that time of a proposed wall
that went from Warner Trail all the way to the commercial development just
before Washington. There was discussion about the types of walls that
would be offered, including split face, and the City was anxious to get into the
back yards of all of the Desert Breezes homeowners the following week in
order to take pictures and do a plant count, as Desert Breezes was told that
any plantings within five feet of the wall could be damaged. Desert Breezes
was provided with a "dear resident" letter signed by Mr. Errante, and sent to
all of the residents, which stated that as part of the sound study and the
widening of Fred Waring, a wall was being erected. Following that meeting,
Laurie Walker from WEC met with all of the homeowners and brought a
sample of the proposed wall, which was split face, with a rock design at the
columns and a design at the top to coordinate with the existing monument
sign. She said a sound study was done on May 30, 2003, for just 30
minutes, and homeowners had questioned such a short time, especially
since the study showed the east side was just one decibel away from
requiring mitigation. Homeowners would very much like to have the wall and
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were willing to work with the City in any way necessary to make it happen.
There were aesthetic concerns, which staff indicated would be slight;
however, homeowners disagreed because the west side would have a ten -
foot wall at the entrance to Desert Breezes on Fred Waring, while the east
side wall would be approximately five feet high. She requested that Council
give full consideration to what was represented to the homeowners. Upon
question by Councilman Spiegel regarding the wall, she said homeowners
were happy with what was presented to them. She said it was told to her
that if they had a couple of residents opposed to the ten -foot wall, and those
residents happened to be next to each other, they could step the wall down
where those residents are to help with the view they were concerned with
losing and then step the wall back up. Upon further question, she said the
step down would be approximately one foot. She noted they were also
amenable to an eight -foot wall. She said part of the issue was that
homeowners were told the wall was as measured from the top of the curb,
and it was difficult to imagine how a ten -foot wall would look with the
footings.
Councilman Spiegel asked how high the residents would like to see the five-
foot wall, and Ms. Finerty responded that nine feet would be a good
compromise.
Mayor Pro Tem Ferguson stated that at some point in the past, Council had
approved a traffic signal in front of Desert Breezes. He said in studying the
expansion of Fred Waring from Eldorado to Washington, and taking into
account trying to get five thousand people from Palm Desert Country Club
in and out of there, he was rethinking the wisdom of that signal. He was also
very sympathetic to the homeowners' concerns relative to having a uniform
wall on both sides. He asked if the homeowners would be willing to work
with the City on the signal if the City was willing to work with the homeowners
on the wall.
MS. FINERTY responded that the homeowners would be very disappointed,
as they had waited for a signal for a long time. When Southwest Community
Church was approved by the County, a signal was conditioned;
unfortunately, the County dropped the ball, and the signal was not put in.
That area was annexed into Indian Wells, and she had provided Indian Wells
with the condition for the signal. Additionally, the warrants indicated there
was a need for a signal at that location. With the widening to six lanes, it
was very unsafe for residents to get out onto Fred Waring Drive, and she
believed the signal was needed for safety purposes.
Upon question by Mayor Pro Tem Ferguson, Mr. Greenwood responded that
a signal at that location did meet warrants.
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Upon question by Councilman Spiegel, Mr. Errante responded that staff was
currently working on the cost figures and should have something ready for
the next Council meeting.
Councilman Spiegel moved to, by Minute Motion, continue this matterto the meeting
of June 9, 2005. Motion was seconded by Ferguson and carried by a 5-0 vote.
B. REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF BUILDING & SAFETY FEE SCHEDULE
AMENDMENT FOR WATER HEATER REPLACEMENT PERMITS
(Continued from the meeting of May 12, 2005).
Upon question by Councilman Spiegel, Senior Management Analyst Martin
Alvarez responded that staff was requesting a continuance of this matter in
order to bring back other options for Council consideration.
Councilman Spiegel suggested that the fee for the water heater replacement
permits be lowered to $25.00.
Mr. Ortega stated that there must be rationale for the fee, based on State law
and the study done by staff. He was concerned with arbitrarily assigning a
dollar amount without a rationale.
Mayor Crites responded that the rationale for lowering the fee was that the
Council wants people to come in and take out permits so their water heaters
can be inspected to be sure they are safe.
Councilman Kelly moved to, by Minute Motion, continue this matterto the meeting
of June 9, 2005, and direct staff to bring back a recommendation with a reduced fee of
$25.00. Motion was seconded by Spiegel and carried by a 5-0 vote.
C. REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF REVISED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL
FOR PRECISE PLAN 04-11 TO CLARIFY FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY
Case No. PP 04-11 (Michael and Margaret Fincher, Applicants) (Continued
from the meeting of May 12, 2005).
Mayor Crites noted the faxed letter from the applicants dated May 24, 2005.
Mayor Pro Tem Ferguson asked whether staffs recommendation remained
essentially the same, and Mr. Greenwood responded affirmatively.
Councilman Spiegel moved to, by Minute Motion, revise the Conditions of Approval
for Case No. PP 04-11 to include a provision for the City of Palm Desert to reimburse the
Developer for 50% of the cost for design, construction, and inspection of the cul-de-sac,
up to $25,000. Motion was seconded by Ferguson and carried by a 5-0 vote.
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XII. OLD BUSINESS
None
XIII. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. CONSIDERATION OF AN APPEAL TO A DECISION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION, APPROVING A PARCEL MAP TO ESTABLISH A ONE -LOT
SUBDIVISION WITH A CONDOMINIUM OVERLAY AT THE 191-SPACE
INDIAN SPRINGS MOBILE HOME PARK LOCATED AT
49-305 HIGHWAY 74 (APN 652-120-007) Case No. PM 31862
(Indian Springs, Ltd., Applicant/Appellant) (Continued from the meetings of
February 10, March 24, and May 12, 2005).
The following is a verbatim transcript of this portion of the Council meeting
Key
BAC Buford A. Crites, Mayor
RH Robert Hargreaves, Deputy City Attorney
SS Steve Smith, Planning Manager
PS Paul Selzer, Attomey for the Applicant
SL Sue Loftin, Attorney for the Applicant
SS Sandy Symington, Indian Springs Mobile Home Park Resident
DF Don Fair, Indian Springs Mobile Home Park Resident
JK James Kerwin, Indian Springs Mobile Home Park Resident
JT John Tessman, Indian Springs Mobile Home Park Resident
CB Charles Burton, Indian Springs Mobile Home Park Resident
ED Ed Dufani, Indian Springs Mobile Home Park Resident
JCS J.C. Smith, Indian Springs Mobile Home Park Resident
WR William Remeliva, Indian Springs Mobile Home Park Resident
JF Jim Ferguson, Mayor Pro Tem
RSK Richard S. Kelly, Councilman
MPG Mary P. Gates, Administrative Secretary
BAC It is a public hearing, and it is a consideration of an appeal to a decision of the
Planning Commission regarding a condominium overlay at a mobile home park
known as Indian Springs on Highway 74. And this is a public hearing, and the
public hearing has been continued and remains open, and we will begin...for the
record note that Councilwoman Benson is leaving the dais at this time, and we'll
begin with a report from the Palm Desert City Attorney.
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RH For the benefit of the people that are here for the hearing, we'll let Mr. Smith go
ahead and introduce the topic and then the...I believe the City Council is going to
want to continue this matter for a month and have ongoing settlement negotiations
that we'd like to fully explore before we move forward on this item. We also want
to have an opportunity to further discuss the various options with the residents
before we commit to one or another path. But in any case, I think Mr. Smith should
give some brief remarks just to couch why we're here today and then open it up for
people that are here to speak.
SS Good aftemoon. As you noted, Mr. Mayor, this is the continuation of an appeal to
the Planning Commission action which approved the requested conversion subject
to conditions including the installation of the sewer system. The Regional Water
Quality Control Board has stated that if the sewer is not installed that it will require
installation of monitoring wells. If the monitoring wells were to find pollution, which
the Water Quality Board staff expect, then the park will need to be connected to the
public sewer system, and the ground water will need to be cleaned. In your packet
this time, there is a new letter that was dated May 9t from a tenant in the park who,
on March 11, experienced "an overflow of the septic tank in our carport area". Also
in the packet is a new condition from the City Attomey which attempts to ensure that
the conversion would be a bona fide homeowner conversion pursuant to a change
in State law. That condition would require that "prior to the conversion, the
subdivider shall demonstrate to the City that 50% of the residents support the
conversion or, in the alternative, that the subdivider enter into an agreement with the
City that the spaces shall be offered to residents at fair market value." Staff
believes that either of the two prongs would be sufficient indication that the
conversion is in fact bona fide. I think, with that, I would conclude, and if you have
any questions, I'll refer them to the City Attomey.
BAC Okay. Thank you, sir. And it is the City Attorney's opinion that you will ask on
behalf of the City for this to continue for 30 days, both for continuing examination
of current negotiations and conditions as well as potential other conditions...
RH Yes.
BAC ...which may be imposed.
RH Yes.
BAC Thank you, sir. With that in mind, the public hearing is open, with the City Attorney's
request being before us, but certainly this afternoon we would offer the opportunity
for testimony from anyone who so desires.
PS Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, my name is Paul Selzer. I'm an attorney, and
I represent the applicant before you today. First let me say with respect to the
request for...the suggestion by the City Attorney that the matter be continued, we
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would respectfully request that the matter not be continued, and we will not consent
to that continuance to the extent that that means anything to the Council. We've
been at this since December. We would like to see it resolved and, if possible,
resolved this evening. As the Council knows, the matter before it tonight is the
question of a parcel map for the mobile home park which would allow the individual
lots to be sold to the current residents of the park. We think we've amply
demonstrated through testimony before you last time that there is no health and
safety condition at the park right now that needs to be remedied. That being the
case, we think it's pretty clear from Government Code Section 66428(d) that this
Council does not have the power to condition the parcel map in the fashion that has
been recommended by counsel. However, if despite our objection the Council
believes that a condition is necessary, I think it's absolutely essential that everybody
in this room understand where the burden...where the bulk of the burden, a
substantial portion of that burden, is going to fall, and that is it will fall upon the
residents. As Mrs. Loftin will explain in a moment, we've offered compromises,
we've attempted to reach agreement, and we remain open to do that. However, it
cannot be denied that under any of the scenarios, under...whether any scenario
other than the one which we've put before the Council, that is that it not be
conditioned on the installation of sewer, the bulk of that burden will fall on the
tenants. We would urge you tonight to approve the parcel map without those
conditions and hope that we can resolve it quickly and without controversy this
evening. Thank you very much.
SL Good afternoon. Sue Loftin on behalf of the applicant. For the record, we would
like to incorporate all correspondence, documents, and materials previously
submitted in this matter at both the Planning Commission hearing and the prior and
continued City Council hearings as well as the new materials that have been
submitted, including without limitation Mr. Richard Close's from Gilchrist & Rutter's
letter dated May 26th to the Council, Mr. Close's letter dated May...l'm sorry, May
26th to the Council, his letter dated May 25th and copied to the Clerk for the City
Council to Mr. Springer. We, for the record again, object to condition 5, which is the
sewer, for the specific reasons set forth again in Mr. Close's letter, and to reiterate
for the record, it is contrary to HCD statutes and regulations, Government Code
66428.1, subsection D, Water Code 13360, and as it stands with the proposals that
we've been discussing, which is an issue that we will take up with the water
authority, there is a prohibition against charging fees such as school fees, park fees,
and we're hoping also hookup fees. Condition #7, which is a new condition that was
proposed, we specifically oppose that for the reasons stated in Mr. Close's letter
and for the record, the 50% approval is specifically contrary to the legislative history.
As to the placing of a condition by this City Council regarding price, that is contrary
to the various Government Code sections as well as represents a restrain on
alienation. Having said the above, we are here this evening to request that you
delete Condition #5 and Condition #7 and instead of those two conditions that you
replace those with the May 4ch proposal that was tendered to your City staff, with
one exception, which is Item #10. Item #10 we had proposed that City staff be the
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supervisor of the sewer project. Staff has raised strong objection to that, and so the
owner, who also objects to being the supervisor or responsible party, will agree to
go in that stead. The May 4th letter provides, in pertinent part, in case...for the
audience, for not everyone who may have had the opportunity to read it, that the
sewer system would be put in place, that the funding in the approximate amount of
$4.2 million would be provided from the City's low and moderate housing fund, that
as to the low income and moderate income residents, their pro rata share of the
sewer cost represented from the City funds would be a grant to those persons. For
the non -low income, it would be a...the money would be rolled into a loan on the
individual lots and assumed by the buyers. The terms of that loan is consistent with
the ability to get financing. Unfortunately, the proposal we received late yesterday,
paragraph 3 specifically, has financing terms in it which eliminates the possibility of
getting conventional financing, and it says maybe the low income will be a grant,
maybe not. So our request is two -fold. First, we request that approve the project
without Condition 5 and Condition 7, or if you are going to want to include
conditions, we request that you delete Condition 5, Condition 7, and replace those
with the May 4th proposal with the one change that I made in Item #10. To reiterate
what Mr. Selzer stated, the applicant does not consent to a continuance and would
like a decision this evening. Thank you.
BAC Thank you. Are there others in the audience who wish to offer comment before the
City Council takes action? Seeing no...yes, ma'am.
(Inaudible)
BAC That's it. That's what we're on.
SS That's it. Okay. Well, I live in Indian Springs. My name is Sandy Symington, and
I'm with the Conversion Committee that we have at the homeowners. And I am
here today because of the City Council's consideration of an appeal from the
owners of Indian Springs. This appeal is in the form of a proposal dated May 4th,
and now there's another one that we just got an hour or two ago that's dated
May 25th by the Redevelopment Agency. This proposal is affecting a minimum of
191 homeowners over the age of 55. The people living at Indian Springs have a
vested interest in any decision made regarding the future of their home, their
lifestyle, and financial capabilities. Of course, we want...would love to own our lots
and do away with a septic system and upgrade the sewers. Therefore, on behalf
of the majority of the residents at Indian Springs, we ask that if you accept the
proposal that is before you, which I assume is still the May 4th, the following areas
should be clarified. #3 of the May 4th proposal and, from what I see, I have #3 and
#4 as questionable, and #7 and #2 seem to be #3 and #4. #3 and 4 on May 4th and
7 and 2 on May 25th. So #3 talks about not passing on the rent increases, and I
think it should be defined to know how long the rent control would be in effect. It
should be defined. The other one is #7...#4 is the one-time 90-day option, and on
number....May 24th, the same thing, the one-time 90-day option. 90 days from
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what? 90 days from the day we were informed how much a lot will cost or 90 days
from the day the sewer installation is complete. Why is only 90 days allowed?
What happens if during the 90 days the lot cannot be purchased by the
homeowner? What are the consequences then? The proposal states this is a one-
time 90-day option. If the homeowner cannot purchase the lot within 90 days of
notification, can the lot be sold to someone else while the homeowner still lives
there? I, therefore, recommend that the 90-day notice will be extended to a one-
year option. This extension would give the homeowner a reasonable amount of time
to apply for financing of the lot. Because of the cost of the lot and sewer is
unknown, we are asking that reasonable solutions, as it looks like we're doing here,
be found between you and the applicant to negotiate this project. Thank you for
your time and interest.
BAC Are there others in the audience who have not testified?
DF Mr. Mayor and Council. My name is Don Fair. I live at Indian Springs, #158, and
hopefully this sewer thing will be resolved or dissolved. It seems like we've talked
about that, and there are other items, and I think Sandy touched on some of these.
But another item is the CC&R's. I have a copy of a letter that was sent to the
Mayor, and it's never been made part of the public record, and I just want to make
that letter a part of the public record so that it doesn't get lost in the crack
someplace because there are 20 concerns attached to that letter that we had with
the CC&R's that we'd like to see addressed at some time or another before this
goes through and gets set in concrete. And after that, it takes an act of God almost
to get those things changed, and so we'd like to see that addressed some place
along the line. Hopefully the sewer thing will be resolved. I think in all of the
meetings that we have...l'm on the Board, also on the Conversion Committee, and
I'm Treasurer of the Association, and we've had a lot of meetings, obviously, and
in all of those meetings, it seems that the consensus in the park is that we want this
thing to go ahead and be resolved so that we can get settled down because the
whole park is in an uproar because of this. And we'd like to get it settled one way
or another and get on with our lives. Thank you very much.
BAC Thank you, sir. Is there anyone else...yes, sir.
JK My name is James Kerwin. I'm a resident of the park, #160. I am not a lawyer or
anything like that. We just heard there's a new document at the last minute. That
seems to be a common occurrence to us at the park. We find last minute things,
we get notices on our door, and things are changed. I was pleased to hear that
maybe someone may want to do a little more consideration on this thing rather than
rush it through. As far as the sewers, it seems ludicrous to argue that in this day
and age that septic tanks are just fine and that sewer systems aren't recommended.
I can't help think what an argument against electricity versus gas lights might have
been a hundred years ago. You know, the owner of the park doesn't want to pay
for the sewers, and that's understandable. And the City Council doesn't want to
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expend too much of the City's money for, you know, for the project. That's
understandable. And we, the residents, don't want to have the burden of this sewer
system. And I think that is a reasonable point. It seems to me that a compromise
might be reached. I know that the consumer generally has to pay for everything.
The manufacturer, in this case the manufacturer would be the owner of the sewer,
it's always passed on to the consumer. I would hope that in your considerations,
you would take into some sort of compromise where, when it is eventually passed
on, and my own personal feeling is that it will be eventually passed on to us, it could
be in the most painless manner...if it were a burden by the owner of the property,
it would undoubtedly be attached to the cost of our lots. That would be...require a
more difficult problem getting loans if that's required. If it were attached...if the City
were to help, that could possibly be extended over a longer period of time in the
form of whatever reassessments that the City would attach. That would be more
painless. We did receive a notice that the City is not prepared to allocate any
redevelopment funds. I would request that maybe you would reconsider at least a
portion of our burden be taken by the City, a portion by the owner, and we know that
there's no free lunch, but we hope that you can make it at least a little more
palatable for us. Thank you.
BAC Thank you, sir. Is there anyone else who wishes to offer comment at this time?
Yes, sir.
JT Mr. Council and members...my name is John Tessman...
BAC You can pull that up a little bit to make it more comfortable for you. There you go.
JT My name is John Tessman. I live at Indian Springs and really love the place up
there. And speaking tonight about the sewer, I think, you know, I had to pay to put
my sewer in when I sold my house in Palm Desert just recently. I had to pay over
$4,000 to do it. You know, I didn't get any benefit from it, I had to take it out of my
proceeds from my sale, so why shouldn't we get the same benefit as owners in
Indian Springs? Course, we could meet the owner part way, but this recent letter
that they gave the City Council and, of course, the City Council, I guess,
according...they didn't even consider it and pass it on to you. But they seem to be
willing to pay $1.3 million in loans, take that out in loans, but according to my
figures, and I don't know if they ever came up and gave you some solid figures on
how much it was going to cost to put a sewer in. I figured it out, because I worked
for a water company, and I've added it all up here. It's going to cost about $2.5
million, not $4.3 million to put a real good sewer system in. And if we do put a good
sewer system in, the Coachella Valley Water will maintain it. That was another
consideration that...the scare tactics that they've been giving us all this time...that,
gee, if we abandon this perfectly good septic system, we're going to have to put out
$100 per unit per month. That's crazy, you know, that's crazy talk to make people,
you know, who are in their 50's, already concemed about, you know, how am I
going to afford this? Well, I wish they would get their act together and get a real
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estimate. Well, a real estimate is to have somebody from an engineering
department that has a civil engineering degree to come out there and give them an
estimate, not somebody that's maintaining the septic system. That's really all I have
to say. If you do make us put a septic...I mean, a sewer system in, which you
should, please make sure it's a first-class system, and it would only cost us $2.5
million. Well, today, I listened to the radio...well, guess what? Coachella's going
to raise their sanitation capacity charges, which is the charge that they charge per
unit, by $500. Why? Why did they wait so long? Gosh, it's another $500, that
means probably another ninety, $95,000. The longer we wait on this, the longer
we're going to be in for it. Thank you.
BAC Thank you, sir. Is there anyone else?
CB Good afternoon. My name is Charles Burton. I'm a resident of Indian Springs, Unit
#110. I'm a new resident within the last four months. To me, the City is requiring
the sewer hookup and closure of the septic system. Therefore, it's costing each
resident, eventually, about $20,000 each. Most cities pay for the majority of the
sewer connection to property. I request that the City of Palm Desert pay its fair
share for this connection. It seems to me that the City should have required that 33
years ago. Now, I realize you guys weren't here 33 years ago, but you know sewer
systems have been around for thousands of years in communities, and a little
foresight would have hooked this up 33 years ago. I also request that when the
sewer system is installed that the City, who has the experience of doing these
projects, make the installation. Thank you very much.
BAC Is there anyone else who wishes to offer comment?
ED My name is Ed Dufani. I'm in space 132 at Indian Springs. I bought my place ten
years ago. In that time, the owner tried getting our whatever we pay each month
raised. We're on rent control. When I moved in there, the place...the streets were
in disarray, the clubhouse was in disarray, and he tried charging a quarter of a
million dollars back to us. I'm a very skeptical man of this person, very skeptical,
and as I understand it, the State, on a sewer system, they say the owner should pay
for it. And I understand that you people had the same law, and now we're trying to
get something else going, and I...can't you stick to your rules? It almost sounds like
our govemment back in Washington, D.C. They can't make up their mind to get a
bill passed back there. Let's get this done. This is about the 8th or 9th meeting I've
been to in this hall. Thank you.
JCS Good afternoon, Mr. Mayor, Councilmembers. I thank you for this opportunity to
come before the Council. My name is J.C. Smith. I live in space 167 on Indian
Springs Mobile Home Park. The first thing I'd like to state is it's a very beautiful
park, and most of the residents in there are very happy to live there. Now they were
very happy to live there when they moved in under the existing circumstances
where they own their mobile home unit, and they rented the space beneath it.
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There are a lot of people in the park that are of an extreme elderly age, not like
myself, and they really don't understand exactly what this means, but the main
concern to you, the Council, and all the residents of Indian Springs and Palm Desert
is the health and safety of the community. Now we have no idea what effect a leaky
septic system has already had to the community. The City of Palm Desert made an
ordinance several yeas ago that stated that any property sold that was on a septic
would be converted to City sewer before the transaction went through. Now, this
was a lawful ordinance, it was passed, and it should be enforced. If there are going
to be any amendments to the ordinance, there should be an environmental impact
study made on what will occur if it is not hooked up to the City sewer. Thank you.
BAC Thank you, sir. Okay, there being no one else, Ms. Loftin...00ps, yes, sir.
WR Thank you very much for allowing me to speak. I've been in that park 26 years...
BAC Could you identify yourself for the record?
WR ...and when I went to that park, I paid $105 a month. Now I pay almost $500.
That's to be expected. And they had a manager there had some feelings for
people, not interested in just making money. So now people as a rule do not go into
mobile home parks as very wealthy people, as a rule. So I've never been told yet
how much it is except in today's paper, if you saw (unclear) the water district said
how much it would be and someone within that system spoke about what it would
be per unit, but it was kind of high for us up there. Also, we have a president...l'm
retired military...who is interested in cutting down on our retirement money, already
cuts down on all the bases, they lost our hospitals and all that. So, to come back
and ask for that kind of money, it doesn't seem right for this country...we're worried
about other countries more than we are the people in this country. And I'm not
talking just for myself but what we have to think about...people in this country,
especially the people who have served this country. So that's what I feel.
BAC Thank you, sir. Okay, there being no one else, Ms. Loftin, you apparently wanted
to say something?
SL Thank you. Following up just briefly what the last gentleman said, this has been
going on for about six months. It is very distressful for the people in the park. We
get letters, we send them out, I got a letter yesterday which one of the other persons
talked about from City staff as part of negotiations and sent it to...met this afternoon
with some of the people and gave them copies, and we need to have this and all of
us move forward. Talking...going back now to some of the issues that have been
raised with regard to the May 4th letter, #3, which talks about...ltem #3 which talks
about no pass-throughs, the question was how long will rent control be in effect.
The agreement to not pass through any cost was a permanent...would be a
permanent agreement without regard to whether rent control was in effect or not in
effect. For the audience, rent control...City rent control ceases on the date of
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conversion, which is the date of the first sale, and in its place goes State rent
control. For the low income people who do not buy, their rent is fixed at CPI or the
average of the previous four years, whichever is Tess, for as long as they live there,
and there is a formula to increase to market for the non -low income. But the
specific provision of no pass -through applies without regard to whether it's local rent
control or State rent control. The next issue raised was the 90 days right of first
refusal, and that is not clear in the letter. It's lawyers writing back and forth to each
other. That's a statutory requirement where the resident has the absolute right to
open escrow at a fixed price for 90 days. They do not have to close escrow. We
have agreed that the low income people can keep an escrow open until all the
funding is. obtained. In Eldorado, that will actually end up being about two years
before we're able to get all of the funding necessary to fund for all of the low income
people in there. So that's why...it doesn't relate to the close of escrow, it only
relates to when you have to open escrow. With regard to the price, the $4.2 million,
that's an estimated price that independently the City and the developer came up
with. It was not something that was just pulled out of the air. John Tessman also
raised the issue of time equals cost, and that's true. The longer this goes on, the
higher the cost for the residents and for the improvements. With regard to the issue
raised on the City ordinance, we simply incorporate our other comments. We thank
you for your patience and request a decision. Thank you.
BAC Thank you, ma'am. Mr. City Attorney.
RH There again, I think the City and certainly the staff would like to reach a quick
conclusion on this. One of the issues that we're grappling with is if we go forward
tonight, then we'll inevitably be in litigation, which would likely postpone any kind of
resolution. So what we'd like to do is have the opportunity to see if we can reach
an agreement, which would be the way to wrap this up as expeditiously as possible.
Also, there are suggestions by others that additional conditions may be appropriate.
We'd like to explore those options also. And for that reason, we are requesting a
30-day continuance.
BAC Okay. Comments from members of the Council.
JF I'd move that we continue this matter for 30 days. And I'd also note for the...for the
residents and the owner, there's a reason why we have a sewer ordinance, and it
is health and safety. And for me, not having sewers has never been an option. So
I don't think we're wavering on that point. Secondly, we have rent control for a
reason, and it is to take care of folks like you and to make sure that owners don't
overreach, and I use owners plural, not specific to any one particular owner. And
I appreciate and understand that the owner has investment -backed expectations on
his park, and there needs to be some reason. We've been told repeatedly, we've
got a court reporter here and three attorneys sitting in the front row, that if we stick
to our guns on this, we're going to get sued. I've been hopeful that, as one fellow
said, this is a matter of just allocating the burden evenly and coming up with a way
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to pay for it for folks that have some cash flow concems. But when you sell your
home under our ordinance, and you do put in a sewer, you get an appreciated value
on your asset. And theoretically, you'd get your investment back when you sell the
parcel. Here we're dealing with the seller and the buyer, and so the allocation has
become somewhat complex. I am hopeful still that we can resolve this matter within
30 days, but mindful of the fact that if we were to vote tonight, we'd probably wind
up in litigation, I think it's our responsibility to protect your rights to the fullest extent
possible, prepare the City for litigation if that's the route that we're heading in the
event that settlement cannot be reached. I generally don't like to sue and settle at
the same time, but it seems like we're getting down to that point. And I think that
these next 30 days will be very productive. I know there's some turbulence at the
park, but trust me when I tell you that if we do this the wrong way, the turbulence
you have now will be nothing compared to what it will be if we don't do this right.
BAC We have a motion...
RSK Second.
BAC There is a second. There being no further discussion, please cast a ballot.
MPG The motion carries by a 4-0 vote, with Councilmember Benson absent.
BAC And we will take a five-minute recess.
Note: Mayor Crites called for a recess at 4:55 p.m. He reconvened the meeting at
5:00 p.m.
XIV. REPORTS AND REMARKS
A. CITY MANAGER
1. Mr. Ortega stated that, with regard to review of confidential
information relative to franchise audits, the City had agreed the results
would be kept confidential; however, in order to do that, it was
necessary to appoint a committee to include two Councilmembers
and staff.
With Council concurrence, Councilman Spiegel and Mayor Pro Tem Ferguson were
appointed to serve on this subcommittee to review the result of audits.
2. Westfield Palm Desert Parking Lot Lighting Retrofit
Mr. Drell stated that as part of an energy conservation initiative by
Southern California Edison, Westfield Palm Desert was proposing a
parking lot lighting retrofit to replace the high pressure sodium lights
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with metal halide. He submitted information to the Council outlining
the benefits of this change and indicating test areas, which Council
could go and view (letter on file and of record in the City Clerk's
office). He noted this would save approximately 141,000 kilowatts
annually. He said they would also be changing out the lighting in the
parking structure, replacing the kind that hang down with recessed
fluorescent fixtures. He added that while the parking structure lighting
change would not conflict with the City's ordinance, changing to metal
halide in the parking Tots ultimately would need amendment of the
ordinance.
B. CITY ATTORNEY
Mr. Hargreaves asked that the Council consider adding an item to be
considered in Closed Session as follows:
Public Employee Performance Evaluation pursuant to Government Code
Section 54957:
Title of Position: City Manager
Mayor Pro Tem Ferguson moved to add this item to Closed Session. Motion was
seconded by Benson and carried by a 5-0 vote.
C. CITY CLERK
1. Reminder of Joint City Council, Redevelopment Agency, and Housing
Authority Study Session to discuss the FY 2005/06 Budget, Tuesday,
June 7, 2005, 9:00 a.m.
D. PUBLIC SAFETY
o Fire Department
None
o Police Department
None
E. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
o City Council Requests for Action:
1. Mayor Crites distributed copies of a letter he had received from
Thomas Noble (on file and of record in the City Clerk's office)
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relative to traffic flow on Dinah Shore Drive and requesting a
Study Session prior to the Council meeting on June 9, 2005.
With Council concurrence, a Study Session was scheduled for 2:30 p.m. on June 9,
2005.
2. Mayor Crites asked that staff look at the issue of tree lighting
on El Paseo, as many of the twinkling lights had bumed out.
3. Mayor Crites noted that there had been a number of requests
over the years from various Native American tribes to
reconsider the name of a local canyon, now called Dead Indian
Canyon. He said he could not find any record of how the
canyon received that designation. He submitted a letter he
had received from Dawn Wellman (on file and of record in the
City Clerk's office) indicating that Katherine Saubel, Cahuilla
elder, had suggested changing the name to Cat-uilla Canyon.
He said unless there was any no objection, he would begin
talking to the County and the National Board of Geographic
Place Names about this.
Council concurred.
o City Council Committee Reports:
None
o City Council Comments:
None
XV. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - C
None
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XVI. ADJOURNMENT
With Council concurrence, Mayor Crites adjourned the meeting to Closed Session
at 5:50 p.m. He reconvened the meeting at 6:25 p.m. and immediately adjourned
the meeting with no action announced from Closed Session.
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BUFORD A. CRITES, MAYOR
SHEILA R. GILL'IGA A TING CITY CLERK
CITY OF PALM DES�R , CALIFORNIA
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