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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2009-12-21MINUTES ADJOURNED REGULAR JOINT MEETING OF THE PALM DESERT CITY COUNCIL AND PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MONDAY, DECEMBER 21, 2009 —1:00 P.M. CIVIC CENTER COUNCIL CHAMBER 73510 FRED WARING DRIVE, PALM DESERT, CA 92260 I. CALL TO ORDER Mayor/Chairman Finerty convened the meeting at 1:01 p.m. II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA - Councilman/Member Robert A. Spiegel III. INVOCATION - Councilman/Member Richard S. Kelly IV. ROLL CALL Present: Councilmember/Member Jean M. Benson Mayor Pro TemNice Chairman Jim Ferguson Councilman/Member Richard S. Kelly Councilman/Member Robert A. Spiegel Mayor/Chairman Cindy Finerty Also Present: John M. Wohlmuth, City Manager/RDA Executive Director David J. Erwin, City Attorney Justin McCarthy, ACM for Redevelopment Stephen Y. Aryan, Assistant to the City Manager Rachelle D. Klassen, City Clerk Russell Grance, Director of Building & Safety Lauri Aylaian, Director of Community Development Janet M. Moore, Director of Housing J. Luis Espinoza, Assistant Finance Director Grace L. Mendoza, Deputy City Clerk V. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS MS. DEBORAH McGARREY, Public Affairs Manager, Southern California Gas Company, Palm Springs, CA, introduced herself as being the new person in the position with Southern California Gas for the last month and offered to provide her assistance whenever it was needed. MINUTES ADJOURNED REGULAR JOINT MEETING OF THE PALM DESERT CITY COUNCIL AND PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY DECEMBER 21, 2009 VI. ADJOURN TO CLOSED SESSION Request for Closed Session: Conference with Real Property Negotiator pursuant to Government Code Section 54956.8: 1) Property: APN 628-130-015 Negotiating Parties: Agency: John M. Wohlmuth/Lauri Aylaian/City of Palm Desert/ Palm Desert Redevelopment Agency Property Owner: Barracuda, LLC Under Negotiation: x Price x Terms of Payment 2) Property: APN 628-130-008 Negotiating Parties: Agency: John M. Wohlmuth/Lauri Aylaian/City of Palm Desert/ Palm Desert Redevelopment Agency Property Owner: David Nelson Under Negotiation: x Price x Terms of Payment 3) Property: APN 628-120-005 Negotiating Parties: Agency: John M. Wohlmuth/Lauri Aylaian/City of Palm Desert/ Palm Desert Redevelopment Agency Property Owner: Roger Snellenberger Under Negotiation: x Price x Terms of Payment On a motion by Ferguson, second by Benson, and 5-0 vote of the City Council/Agency Board, Mayor/Chairman Finerty adjourned the meeting to Closed Session at 1:04 p.m. She reconvened the meeting at 1:11 p.m. VII. RECONVENE MEETING A. REPORT ON ACTION FROM CLOSED SESSION. None 2 MINUTES ADJOURNED REGULAR JOINT MEETING OF THE PALM DESERT CITY COUNCIL AND PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY VIII. NEW BUSINESS DECEMBER 21, 2009 A. REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF ADVANCE AND REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY AND THE CITY OF PALM DESERT; ADOPTION OF RESOLUTIONS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY TO APPROVE PAYMENT BY THE AGENCY AND AN ADVANCE BY, AND REIMBURSEMENT OF, THE CITY FOR ACQUISITION OF LAND AND INSTALLATION AND CONSTRUCTION OF PUBLIC OPEN SPACE AND RECREATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS; AND APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS FOR ACQUISITION OF LAND. Ms. Aylaian called attention to the report contained in the agenda packets and offered to answer questions. Councilman/Member Ferguson moved to: 1) By Minute Motion, approve the subject Advance and Reimbursement Agreement between the Redevelopment Agency and the City (Contract No. R29440); 2) waive further reading and adopt City Council Resolution No. 09-81, approving payment by the Redevelopment Agency for the value of the land and cost of installation and construction of public open space and recreational improvements, and approving said Agreement with the Agency; 3) waive further reading and adopt Redevelopment Agency Resolution No. 568, approving payment by the Redevelopment Agency for the value of the land and cost of installation and construction of public open space and recreational improvements, and approving said Agreement with the City; 4) by Minute Motion, appropriate $2,000,000 to Account No. 850-4495-464-4001 from Unobligated Project Area No. 1 Funds for this purpose. Motion was seconded by Benson and carried by a 4-1 vote of the City Council/Agency Board, with Kelly voting NO. B. REQUEST FOR RATIFICATION OF A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH SMART MICHAEL SIMINOFF (SMS) ARCHITECTS, INC., IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $24,750 AND APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT NO. 2 IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $7,800 FOR THE DESERT WILLOW KITCHEN/BUILDING EXPANSION PROJECT (CONTRACT NO. R29450). Redevelopment Manager Martin Alvarez explained that the subject request would allow staff to proceed with an amendment to the contract and ratify an existing contract with SMS Architects to help address the City Council/Agency Board plan for the Desert Willow Kitchen and Building Expansion. He offered to answer questions. Upon inquiry, Mr. Alvarez said the only expenditures that have been incurred so far are the subject contract for $24,750, with the additional $7,800 to allow staff to come back to the City Council/Agency Board at the Study Session on 3 MINUTES ADJOURNED REGULAR JOINT MEETING OF THE PALM DESERT CITY COUNCIL AND PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY DECEMBER 21, 2009 January 7 and address some of the interior modifications to the lobby and bar area, along with some adjustments to the east elevation — some $32,000 would be invested. In further response, he said the only other item that has been authorized by the City Council/Agency Board is for the Lake View Terrace Project, a separate contract in the amount of $82,000. Responding to question about whether the two contracts could be put on hold until after the January 7 Study Session, he replied that the information required for the Study Session was represented in subject Contract Amendment No. 2 for $7,800. Mayor Pro TemNice Chairman Ferguson stated he was asking because it appeared to be a domino effect — if a bigger kitchen is built, then a bigger patio is needed; a bigger patio is desired to attract more people, leading to needing a larger parking lot — and spending more for the improvements than was spent on the original Clubhouse. He was concerned that the charm and ambiance at Desert Willow would be lost and instead proposed improving on the existing quality, maybe cutting back on some of the functions. He felt the facility had worked very well for Palm Desert for the last 10 years, and it may be unwise to spend $5 - $7 million for the sake of being bigger. He noted that he would probably also raise these concerns at the Study Session; however, he didn't want to get too much invested in the planning that it represented a costly decision. Mr. Alvarez replied that if the Amendment is approved, it would represent $32,550 to date. This would allow at least a look at the concept plan and vetting out the information necessary to make a determination of whether to move forward now or at a later time. In response to question, he believed the investment was necessary in order for the City Council/Agency Board to make an informed decision. Councilman/Member Kelly remarked that he concurred with Mayor Pro TemNice Chairman Ferguson that it would be advisable to proceed slowly, since Desert Willow is already a wonderful attraction. He cautioned not making a monstrosity out of something that is already very appealing. MR. RICHARD MOGENSEN, General Manager of Desert Willow Golf Resort, agreed that the investment was substantial, and it would be up to the City Council/Agency Board to decide how to proceed. He said some of the expansion being explored was as a result of a recommendation to try to improve the conditions at Desert Willow; the Lake View Terrace is a separate project from the Kitchen Expansion, although somewhat interrelated. The initial thought was that the Terrace Expansion would provide opportunity to build revenues for the Club going forward in a very competitive environment. Additionally, it would make the facility much more attractive for a lot of groups and allow for more multi -functional events, and better serve the citizens by not having to compete for dining versus banquets. He concurred that these issues 4 MINUTES ADJOURNED REGULAR JOINT MEETING OF THE PALM DESERT CITY COUNCIL AND PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY DECEMBER 21, 2009 warranted more discussion at the Study Session. Further, the Kitchen Expansion is a project unto itself. When it was constructed, the facility was probably never contemplated to be what it is today — demands of the back of the house (i.e., kitchen and storage facilities) were rather understated for what the property required, even now. Therefore, either consideration of what's already done with construction or some possible changes to the building may be necessary going forward. He offered to provide further information whenever it's needed. Councilman/Member Spiegel commented that if one is at Desert Willow on a sunny day, no one is sitting inside; they're all on the patio, which is completely full. The City wants to grow the restaurant and luncheon business, and he felt the only way that could be done would be to expand the patio. Secondly, he'd been dissatisfied with the size of the bar area since the Clubhouse opened; it's very difficult for people to get to the bar during special events. If those two things could be corrected, Desert Willow would do more business. Councilmember/Member Benson added that if people cringed at the thought of how much Indian Wells and La Quinta spent on their clubhouses (she believed it was $13.5 million in La Quinta), Palm Desert was very conservative and built the Desert Willow Clubhouse for $5.7 million. She thought the proposed expansion would not make the Clubhouse look massive, but instead enhance it for the many desert residents who enjoy outdoor dining. She emphasized that enlarging the patio should not be initiated without enlarging the kitchen — service is paramount. She felt it was very prudent to invest in the City's own property in order to generate a return over the years. Mayor/Chairman Finerty agreed, adding that Desert Willow was one of the best places anywhere to have lunch and host functions. If the goal is to enhance revenues by enhancing the seating, the kitchen must also be enhanced. She felt the current level of service could be improved upon and was concerned that if the City moves ahead with any expansion, service will suffer, and there will be no return on the investment. She felt it would be best to move forward and look at all of the options available before making any further decisions; the Study Session will be beneficial. Councilman/Member Spiegel moved to, by Minute Motion: 1) Ratify an Agreement for Professional Services with SMS Architects, Inc., Irvine, California, in an amount not to exceed $24,750, including $1,000 for reimbursables for the subject project; 2) approve Amendment No. 2 to the subject contract in an amount not to exceed $7,800; 3) authorize the Chairman to execute the Amendment — funds are available in the Desert Willow FY 2009-2010 Capital Improvement Budget. Councilman/Member Kelly understood that all the other locations spent more money than Palm Desert. He also thought about it each time he received an 5 MINUTES ADJOURNED REGULAR JOINT MEETING OF THE PALM DESERT CITY COUNCIL AND PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY DECEMBER 21, 2009 invitation at one of those locations, and he only went when he felt it was his responsibility to represent the City but didn't necessarily enjoy those facilities. The events he really enjoyed participating in were hosted at Desert Willow. He believed Desert Willow was the best, classiest location to have lunch in the Coachella Valley. He also understood sometimes there was a wait and that we can't take care of all the numbers that we'd like to, but he had a great concern that the whole ambiance that's been created over the last 12 years would be lost. However, he was willing to invest the money to make an intelligent decision; although, he would continue to be concerned about retaining the original Desert Willow experience that citizens have really enjoyed — it is the City of Palm Desert's crown jewel. Mayor Pro Tem/Vice Chairman Ferguson agreed and seconded Councilman/Member Spiegel's motion, which then carried on a 5-0 vote. C. APPOINTMENTS TO VARIOUS VACANCIES ON AND REAPPOINTMENTS TO THE CITY'S STANDING COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS. Mayor/Chairman Finerty noted that Councilmember/Member Benson, Councilman/Member Kelly, and she conducted applicant interviews on Friday, December 11, with the recommendations for appointments and reappointments to the various City committees presented here. She confirmed by reading aloud the recommendations presented on the staff report that were also reflected on the agenda. Councilman/Member Ferguson moved to, by Minute Motion: 1) Appoint the following applicants to the respective Committees and Commissions, as indicated: a) Architectural Review Commission: Ken Stendell to fill the unexpired term of Nancy DeLuna (12/31/11); b) Audit. Investment & Finance Committee: Jono Hildnerto fill the unexpired term of Russ Campbell (12/31/10) and Patricia Kent to a four-year term (12/31/13) to fill the vacancy created by Stephanie Loog's transfer to the Marketing Committee; c) Cultural Resources Preservation Committee: Ricki Brodie to fill Jan Holmlund's vacancy (12/31/12); d) Housina Commission: Gene Colombini to fill the unexpired term of J. Leo Sullivan (12/31/10); e) Library Promotion Committee: Lois Cardona to fill the unexpired term of Lawrence Guzzetta (12/31/10); f) Marketina Committee: Kimberly Bowers to fill the unexpired term of Ted Giatas (12/31/11), Stephanie Loog and Marlane Wolf each to a four- year term (12/31/13); g) Parks & Recreation Commission: Christopher Thomas to a four-year term to fill Julie Munson's vacancy (12/31/13); h) Citizens' Advisory Committee for Proiect Area No. 4: Ron Crisp to fill the unexpired term of Sherry Trevor (12/31/10), Terry Archer to fill the unexpired term of Charles Ash (12/31/12), and Phyllis Harkins to fill the vacancy created by the resignation of Susan McMillen (12/31/13). 2) Reappoint the following members to their respective positions on City Committees and Commissions each for a four-year term (01/01/10 - 12/31/13), except the Youth 6 MINUTES ADJOURNED REGULAR JOINT MEETING OF THE PALM DESERT CITY COUNCIL AND PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY DECEMBER 21, 2009 Committee, whose terms are for one year (01/01/10 - 12/31/10): a) Architectural Review Commission: Ron Gregory, Karel Lambell, Chris Van Vliet; b) Art In Public Places Commission: Donna Jean Darby, Maureen Thompson; c) Audit. Investment & Finance Committee: Everett Wood; d) Building Board of Appeals & Condemnation: Eric Vogt; e) El Paseo Business Association: Sonia Campbell, Robert Fliday, Michael Shimer; f) Housing Commission: Verna Smith, Jane Turner; g) Library Promotion Committee: Barbara Rosenberg; h) Marketing Committee: Emily Bird-Hrivnak, Lee Morcus; i) Parks & Recreation Commission: Michael Barnard, Roger Dash; j) Planning Commission: Van Tanner; k) Rent Review Commission: Arne Werchick; I) Youth Committee: Raine Armstrong, Kevin Autran, Laura Baldwin, Alahna Dunbar, Carl Gerhardt, Donald (Bryce) Griffith, Toni Gutierrez, Kate Hart, Alison McCollister, Briana Nolan, Jason Richard, Jonny Rohrbaugh, Jenna Scott, Abby Sturgeon, Elle Wohlmuth. Motion was seconded by Benson and carried by a 5-0 vote. Mayor/Chairman Finerty congratulated the appointees who were in the audience today and said the City Council looked forward to working with them all beginning in January. D. CONSIDERATION OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND AGENCY BOARD COMMITTEE/COMMISSION LIAISON ASSIGNMENTS FOR 2010. Following is a verbatim transcript of the discussion and action occurring with this item. My CF Mayor/Chairman Cindy Finerty JMB Councilmember/Member Jean M. Benson RSK Councilman/Member Richard S. Kelly JF Mayor Pro TemNice Chairman Jim Ferguson GLM Grace L. Mendoza, Deputy City Clerk RAS Councilman/Member Robert A. Spiegel RDK Rachelle D. Klassen, City Clerk JMW John M. Wohlmuth, City Manager/RDA Executive Director CF Next is "Consideration of the City Council and Agency Board Committee/Commission Liaison Assignments for 2010." In our agenda packet was...the 2009 Committee Assignments, and...I was wondering if there were suggestions or changes that any of you may have had. And we'll start with Councilman Kelly. JMB I didn't have that RSK I...don't ha -....I... CF It's the very last page of your... 7 MINUTES ADJOURNED REGULAR JOINT MEETING OF THE PALM DESERT CITY COUNCIL AND PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY DECEMBER 21, 2009 JF Packet. CF ...packet. RSK Of this one? JF No, the full packet — yeah. RSK This one? JF Nope. JMB I got something - I didn't have it. JF Well, it was the last page. Single sheet, no staples. JMB The last page. RSK I guess I don't have it here. Is that an extra one? GLM Yes. RSK Thank you. Sorry about that. CF That's okay. Did you want to take a moment to review? RSK Hmm? CF Did you want to take a moment to review it, since you just found it? RSK Well I studied it. CF You've studied it. Okay, did you have any recommended changes? RSK I would like to keep all of the assignments I now have. CF Very well. Mayor Pro Tem Ferguson? JF I have plenty that I would be willing to...give to somebody if they wanted 'ern. But...l'm happy with what I've got. CF Councilman Spiegel? RAS I'm very happy with what I have. 8 MINUTES ADJOURNED REGULAR JOINT MEETING OF THE PALM DESERT CITY COUNCIL AND PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY DECEMBER 21, 2009 CF Councilwoman Benson. JMB I don't see Sister City on here...(unclear) CF I was going to put that under my comments. RDK It's up Number 29 on the list. CF 29, mmm hmm. JMB Oh, okay. I...am willing to change the Animal Campus with Cindy for Sister Cities. CF That would be great...l appreciate that. Discussion that...I had...goes to...primarily...the Landscape Beautification Committee. I served on the Landscape Beautification Committee as the liaison from Planning Commission for several years, and I actually...was instrumental in creating that position. During the four months...when, after Buford Crites had resigned, Councilman Spiegel stepped in and has remained in that position since. And 1 would very much like to be reappointed back into Landscape Beautification so that we have differing point of views. It's a...Committee that I miss...very much, and 1 have...acquiesced as the new person on the block...for three years...and having Councilman Spiegel consid-, continue on. But I would like to...have Council's consideration for putting me back to the Landscape Beautification Committee. RAS Are you suggesting you replace myself or Councilman Kelly? CF Well, Councilman Kelly was a mainstay, and 1 think...Councilman Spiegel, you just filled in for the four short months...before, from the time that...excuse me, from the time that...Buford Crites resigned 'til the time 1 was elected. RAS Well I don't want to get off of it. You can vote me off, just the way you did with the CVA. CF 1 heard Councilman Kelly say that he would like to stay on it, so... RSK I'm the one that originated the Committee. CF I understand. RSK So there's no way...that's one of my primary interests. CF I understand. A couple other changes...that I thought might be helpful would be Number 16 - the CVAG Transportation Committee...to put the Alternate as Mayor Pro Tem Ferguson, since he's now representing the City on RCTC, leaving Councilman Kelly as the primary representative. Also on Item Number 30... 9 MINUTES ADJOURNED REGULAR JOINT MEETING OF THE PALM DESERT CITY COUNCIL AND PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY JF Yeah. DECEMBER 21, 2009 CF ...the Palm Springs Art Museum Board...upon having a significant discussion, it's now a voting position, so we need to take "non -voting representative" out of there. Item Number 31...the CVA...I would like to have Council consideration to replace Councilman Kelly as the Alternate on the CVA. And then I know we have a memo from staff...for the Aquatic Center...ratifying Mayor Pro Tem Ferguson and assigning a sec-... RSK By the way, 31... CF I'm sorry. RSK ...(unclear) on the CVA. CF Yes. RSK You can...it's okay with me to appoint you as the Alternate. CF Thank you. The Aquatic Center, we had a memo from staff, again, ratifying Mayor Pro Tem Ferguson's appointment and request for a second Councilmember. RSK Which one are you on now? RAS The new one. CF It's...actually something that we received...as New Business in an envelope. (Unclear) RAS I'd like to recommend Dick Kelly as the Alternate... RSK Oh that...(unclear) RAS ...or as the additional person. CF Would you like to serve as the... RSK (Unclear)...interested in serving on that. CF Okay. JF . Good. CF That would be great. 10 MINUTES ADJOURNED REGULAR JOINT MEETING OF THE PALM DESERT CITY COUNCIL AND PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY DECEMBER 21, 2009 RAS The pool. CF Okay. RAS So it would be Mayor Pro Tem Ferguson and Councilman Kelly for the pool. JF Good idea. JMB What Number's the pool? RAS It's not on there. CF We're going to make that Number 43. RAS The new one. JMB Oh, 43, oh. And it's gonna' be who? CF Mayor Pro Tem Ferguson and Councilmember Kelly. JF That'll be a good one to work on. CF Mmm hmm. JF And (unclear)... Energy Finance? CF Yes. Mr. City Manager, were we going to add the Energy Finance to this as well? JMW Certainly, that one too. We have one Councilmember, Mayor Pro Tem Ferguson, sits on, we have an ad hoc...Energy Independence and Energy...Program Committee that we work with...primarily staff and Councilmember Ferguson. We would like to appoint a second Councilmember, that'd be good. JF Well I'd certainly like to cease being the only one that really knows the Program. And if anybody has an interest...I think it's always good if two or more of us know what's going on. CF Well I ha-... JF Be like Dick Kelly in transportation, it's, you know...it's... JMB (Inaudible) CF Mmm hmm 11 MINUTES ADJOURNED REGULAR JOINT MEETING OF THE PALM DESERT CITY COUNCIL AND PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY DECEMBER 21, 2009 JF ...if you decided you didn't want to do transportation one day, we'd be stuck. RSK Well I'm...comfortable with you being the person. Are we lookin' for somebody else to also? JF If there's an interest, yeah. JMB If we're looking for another person on the Energy Efficiency, I'd recommend the Mayor. CF I very much have an interest in the Finance perspective of it...and look forward to the interest that the City will be receiving as a result of our loans. So, I would very much like to participate on that, as well. JF So is that 44? CF Yes. RSK Is that what... JF What? RSK I'd... CF The Energy Finance. RSK Who's the Alt-, who are we appointing Alternate? JF Well... CF The Mayor. JF ...the two people. RSK The Mayor. JF Yeah. CF Okay, so, is there a motion...on how we would like to proceed? JF Well, you went through a lot of stuff. Which ones did we not... RSK You need to take 'em one at a time. JF Yeah. 12 MINUTES ADJOURNED REGULAR JOINT MEETING OF THE PALM DESERT CITY COUNCIL AND PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY CF Okay. Why don't we start with the Animal Campus. JMB That one that I'm giving to you in exchange for Sister Cities. CF Okay. JF And there's no issue with that, right? So... CF There's no issue. JF Okay. That's done. CF Hmmm, onto... JF So, my next one is 16. DECEMBER 21, 2009 CF Okay. I would just say that Number 11...1 would become the repres-, City's representative. JF By virtue of being Mayor. CF Mayor. JMB It's automatic. CF Right. And same with Number 14 and then Number 16. JF And Number 16, I'd take your place as the Alternate for CVAG Transportation. CF Okay. The staff report also mentioned Number 18, potentially doing away with that. Did... RAS It's finished. JMW Correct. RAS It's...we don't need anybody for 18, do we? JMW Yeah, I think that was, as far as I can tell, that was an ad hoc during the development of Entrada del Paseo. RAS So we can eliminate it. JMW (Unclear) 13 MINUTES ADJOURNED REGULAR JOINT MEETING OF THE PALM DESERT CITY COUNCIL AND PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY JF We can strike that one off. CF Okay. RSK So you just did CVAG Transportation, and you... JMB And we eliminated... JF We're deleting Number 18, I'm your Alternate. RSK You're gonna' be my Alternate. JMB ...Entrada. RAS Yes. JMB Yeah. CF Okay. Landscape Beautification. RSK What number we on now? JF 22 CF Number 22. JF Oh, before we get to 22... CF Yes. DECEMBER 21, 2009 JF ...somebody, I can't remember whether it was you or Councilman Spiegel, I think it was the Mayor, expressed an interest in putting...permanent representation on that Committee as opposed to rotating... RSK I can't hear you. JF I'm sorry. There was an interest expressed in having people...serve on the Investment & Finance Committee that took a particular interest in it, and it's one of my least favorite things to do. So...l don't know if that's still an idea you wanted to float, but... CF Well I feel strongly that...especially in these times, the Investment Committee needs...people that are very interested in asking those tough questions, and Finance - Investment has always been...a favorite of mine, and I would wonder if there's anyone 14 MINUTES ADJOURNED REGULAR JOINT MEETING OF THE PALM DESERT CITY COUNCIL AND PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY DECEMBER 21, 2009 &se that would want to serve on it on a permanent basis rather than...rotating as has been done in the past. JF Councilman Spiegel, would you have any interest in... RAS If no one else wants it, I'II be glad to take it. JF Well I think you're the most knowledgeable on that Committee of the five of us. RSK I have no... JF No objection here. RSK ...wild interest. JF Okay. CF Okay. RSK I never did get along very good with accountants. (Laughter) CF Okay. JF So it'll...let's see, Investment & Finance won't be the Mayor and the Mayor Pro Tem, it would be Spiegel, it would be, stay the same, would be Spiegel, Finerty. CF Mmm hmm. RSK What...did we make...one of those a permanent position, is that what we did? JF Yeah. RSK I would... JMB The Investment Committee was...we did something, John, that made it the Mayor and the Mayor Pro Tem. So maybe we should change whatever document we did and make it Mayor and one appointee. JMW Staff would be (unclear)... RSK Yeah, I like the idea of the Mayor being there. JF Okay. 15 MINUTES ADJOURNED REGULAR JOINT MEETING OF THE PALM DESERT CITY COUNCIL AND PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY DECEMBER 21, 2009 RSK With an...we could have an appointed person that stays there. But I kinda' like the idea of the Mayor being responsible. JMB Mayor and one appointee, yeah. RSK With an appointee. JF And it's good for this year. RSK Hmm? CF Ahh-ha. JF That's good for this year. (Laughter) CF Okay. RSK And you're lined up to be Mayor next time. JF Yeah. CF So we're set on that, Number 21, and City Manager will make the necessary adjustment in...okay, we're at Number 22, the Landscape Beautification Committee. JF Well, before we get to that, are all the rest non-... CF I think that...Counci- JF ...contested? CF ...yes...Councilman Kelly... RSK There's one other one that...you're the Alternate that I have an interest in. JF What's that? RSK Is...SunLine. JF Oh, really? RSK Yeah. I have sat in a couple of times; once, I think, a year, and... JF I will gladly... 16 MINUTES ADJOURNED REGULAR JOINT MEETING OF THE PALM DESERT CITY COUNCIL AND PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY DECEMBER 21, 2009 RSK I...I... JF ...swap that one for you. RSK ...go back and seein' all my friends and workin' with 'ern for our meetings. JF Okay. CF Okay. JMB (Unclear)...cleared that with SunLine? (Laughter) RSK What was that remark? JF She said, "Did you clear that with SunLine?" (Laughter) RSK I wanted to go, so I didn't. RAS They're always happy to see him. CF Okay. JF Okay. That... CF Okay, that's good JF I have no problem with that at all. CF I think that Number 31, Councilman Kelly was happy for me to pick up as being the Alternate for the CVA. JMB And that's you. JF Yeah. CF Mmm hmm. And then we had...the Energy Finance of the Mayor and Mayor Pro Tem, and Aquatic Center... RDK Did you want... 17 MINUTES ADJOURNED REGULAR JOINT MEETING OF THE PALM DESERT CITY COUNCIL AND PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY DECEMBER 21, 2009 CF ...would be Mayor Pro Tem Ferguson and Councilmember Kelly. So I don't think any of those were contested. RSK What...number we on now? CF 43 and 44; although, if we eliminate 18, that's gonna' change our numbering system. But for purposes of discussion today...Number43, the Aquatic Center, would be Mayor Pro Tem Ferguson and Councilmember Kelly. And the Energy Finance, Number 44, would be Mayor Pro Tem Ferguson and Mayor Finerty. RDK And when you say Mayor and Mayor Pro Tem, you mean for this year, it's not like a permanent, like the Audit Committee? CF That's my understanding, yes. RDK Thank you. JF Umm... JMB Maybe if the City Clerk, when she revises this, you would put the times of the meetings. RDK Okay, we're gonna' require more pages, prob-, maybe, possibly, if we can squeeze it all in; some have rather a long... JMB No, if you just put the time of the meeting, like the Annexation, "On -call," and Art In Public Places. RDK We'll do our best. JF There's also two Committees that are not on here, or if they are, I'm not finding them quickly. One is the Palm Desert Recreational Facilities Corporation. CF Mmm hmm. JMB I thought that was always just the City Manager. JF No. It's Mr. Kelly and myself, Russ Campbell, Dave Tschopp used to be on it. We only meet once a year, but it's... CF Isn't it Number 38, or not? JMB Yeah. JF Nope, that's the Financing Authority is with the County, that shared section by Costco. 18 MINUTES ADJOURNED REGULAR JOINT MEETING OF THE PALM DESERT CITY COUNCIL AND PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY DECEMBER 21, 2009 JMB And that...one is chaired by the Mayor, by the County's ordinance. JF Right. CF Okay. JF So...and I think Mr. Kelly and I are on it, and I don't know about Mr. Campbell, and... RDK Now it's Mr. Armijo and Mr. Smith. RSK That's the... JF Recreational Facility. RSK ...Recreation Committee... JF Yeah. RSK ...which is required for us to have a...liquor license at Desert Willow. JF Right. CF Okay. JF So I don't know who the Members are now. RDK Oscar Armijo and Phil Smith are your current Outside Members. JF Okay. And then the other one, which I guess it doesn't have to be on here, was the Palm Desert - Rancho Mirage Monterey Corridor Committee. (Laughter) JMB Well, if they'd open that, we wouldn't need a Committee. JF Well, that's all... JMB They quit workin' on it. JF Well, that's...I think Councilman Kelly and I were on that as well, and we've been working to get them to widen it to three lanes all the way to Mont-, Highway 111 and Country Club. So just to be complete. CF Okay. With that, I think we've taken care of everything with the exception of Number 22. 19 MINUTES ADJOURNED REGULAR JOINT MEETING OF THE PALM DESERT CITY COUNCIL AND PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY DECEMBER 21, 2009 RSK And did we decide on that one yet? JF On what one? RSK On the Monterey? JF Do you still want to do it, or are you tired of it? RSK Well... I'm...whatever... JF Would anybody else want to do it? RSK ...Council would like. I guess you and I probably ought to keep doin' it. JF Well, I, it used to be Harvey Gerber and Alan Seman that were on it, so I have a feeling that... RSK You're gonna' be the Alternate on Transportation, is that right? JF Yes. RSK So we might as well take care of that too. JF Okay. I think it's gonna' become a big issue. CF Mmm hmm. Okay. And that leaves everything except for the Landscape Beautification Committee. And hearing no motion, I assume it's going to stay the same. Okay. JF Well, let me just explain. I...feel...bad about taking Bob off of the CVA, because it wasn't for anything that he was doing wrong at the CVA. It was just putting somebody who was...not a believer in the position of having to roll up their sleeves and learn what the heck is going on and possibly changing a vote. And if that was gonna' break the log jam, that's why I agreed to do it. It wasn't to be out of any sense of disrespect to Councilman Spiegel. And you know, when I first got elected in '97, Jean was kind enough to give me the Airport Commission, but for about the next six years, every Committee I had was Walt Snyder's, and...I don't doubt that at some point you will get on Landscape, but if Bob is unwilling to give it up, I don't feel like compelling his removal. I just don't think it's good relations for our Council. CF Well, that's why I said I did not hear a motion, so it stays as is. And is the City Clerk clear on all of the positions? RDK Yes, I believe so. Thanks for reading through them, that helped. 20 MINUTES ADJOURNED REGULAR JOINT MEETING OF THE PALM DESERT CITY COUNCIL AND PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY CF Great. Okay. With that, I'II entertain a motion to adjourn. RAS I have a comment that I want to make. CF Okay. RAS There's no place on here to ask if anybody has comment. CF That's correct. DECEMBER 21, 2009 RAS I just want...to let you know that a couple of weeks ago, I was asked by the Desert Sands School District to...talk about the Two x Two Committee at the annual meeting for the School Boards of California and with the Superintendents and...School Board Members there. And...I was in San Diego for a day. It went very well. I've had a lot of questions about it, and other cities seem to be picking it up. So it was a good thing. RSK We didn't change Two x Two, did we? CF No. JF Why, do you want to make a change? RSK No. JF Okay. CF Okay. Did anyone else have comments? Seeing none, is there a motion to adjourn? IX. ADJOURNMENT Upon a motion by Spiegel, second by Ferguson, and unanimous vote of the City Council/Agency Board, Mayor/Chairman Finerty adjourned the meeting at 1:45 p.m. ATTEST: CINDY FINItTS(, MAYOR/CHAIRMAN R A HELLE D. KLASSEN, TY CLERK/SECRETARY CITY OF PALM DESERT, CALIFORNIA/ PALM DESERT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY 21