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PALM DESERT
MARKETING COMMITTEE MINUTES
TUESDAY, APRIL 20, 2004
2:00 P.M.
ADMINISTRATIVE CONFERENCE ROOM
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Ray Rodriguez called the meeting to order at 2:00 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Members Present:
Emily Bird
Norine Bowen
Melinda Byrd
Rick Darius
Ric Mandelbaum
Ray Rodriguez
Michael Shimer
Staff/Others Present:
Robert Spiegel
Jean Benson
Sheila Gilligan
Kristy Kneiding
Piper Close
Mike Osgood, Desert Willow
Gary Sherwin, Palm Springs Desert Resorts
III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None.
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR
Motion was made by Ric Mandelbaum to approve the March 16, 2004
meeting minutes, and the March 23, 2004 Study Session Notes. Norine
Bowen seconded the motion, which was carried by a unanimous vote.
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V. NEW BUSINESS
A. PRESENTATION BY PEGGY CRAVENS, VIRGINIA WARING
PIANO COMPETITION
Sheila Gilligan introduced Peggy Cravens to the Committee. Ms.
Gilligan said the request before the Marketing Committee from the
Virginia Waring Piano Competition is $50,000. She also said if the
event is valley wide, they look to the organization to be able to tell
the city what other cities in the valley have been contacted, and
what other cities are contributing. These types of events are
brought to the Marketing Committee for review and
recommendation to the City Council with regard to return on
investment.
Councilmember Benson said in the past, the city did not fund any
event more than three times. This timeframe would allow the
organization to become self-sustaining after that point.
Peggy Cravens thanked the Marketing Committee to allow her the
opportunity to address them. Ms. Cravens introduced Gerald
Benston, M.D., Vice President and Treasurer for the Virgina Waring
Piano Competition, and Louise Pestana, Development Consultant.
Ms. Pestana is well renowned in the field of music and fundraising.
She was the Fund Development Officer for the Los Angeles
Philharmonic for many years and also the Executive Director for the
Pasadena Symphony. Dr. Benston is sitting presently on the board
of the Palm Springs Friends of the Philharmonic. Ms. Cravens
added that she sings professionally and contributes with her own
areas of expertise.
Ms. Cravens gave a history of the competition. Ms. Waring agreed
to this event only if it was properly funded. Ms. Waring also wanted
to elevate the status of the competition by bringing in an orchestra
that would be available to play the final concerts. The competition
will run for three and one-half weeks starting the 9th of January
2005 through the 5th of February 2005. A concert at the McCallum
Theatre and a Black and White Ball will conclude the event. For
the past three years, the Black and White Ball raised funds, which
helped the development of the Competition in becoming self-
sufficient. In the interim, they have had wonderful cooperation from
several of the well know foundations in the valley; the H.N. and
Francis C. Berger Foundation; the Annenberg Foundation; JoAnn
McGrath Foundation; and the Michael W. McCarthy Foundation.
They are presently funded in the amount of $618,000. They are
requesting that the City of Palm Desert can fund the housing and
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per diem for the 40-piece orchestra that will be coming from Rome,
Italy. The Italian Government is contracted to cover completely or
partially the airfare for these musicians. The competition is held
every four years and will not be asking the City of Palm Desert to
contribute every year.
Ms. Craven introduced Dr. Benston.
Dr. Benston said that former winners of this competition have gone
on to Internationally Concertizing or are sitting currently as
Professors of Keyboard studies at various universities throughout
the country. Competition winners have come from California, New
York, Korea, Bulgaria, and Gauna and have become exciting artists
or professors. He said they are not asking for help for youth at risk.
They are speaking about young, talented people with direction, who
are dedicated and need our help. And so they respectfully hope
that the Marketing Committee will honor their request.
Ms. Cravens added that the McCallum Theatre has been
enormously supportive of this competition. During the last week all
daytime competitions will be held entirely at the McCallum. In the
evening, the McCallum is giving those evening performances to a
variety of different types of events pertaining to the competition.
Presentations were made to the City of Rancho Mirage and the City
of Indian Wells. In the City of Rancho Mirage, at the Annenberg
Center, there will be an evening performance for the adult residents
of Rancho Mirage. During the daytime, an event will be staged at
one of the schools for the children. They are also going to attempt
to bus children in so they can see children in the throws of
competing.
Louise Pestana said while listening to classical music your brain
uses the same neuron pathways that are used to process math and
science. Educationally, it is important for children to listen to this
type of music.
All of the events, except the final event, are free and open to the
public and anyone can come in anytime and listen. Cultural
inspiration has been systematically removed from the schools and
this competition creates an understanding for children who are
exposed to it that helps them advance with math and science
leaming. She also mentioned the marketing aspect of this event.
They have a website that gets 500 hits a day. The Competition has
been advertised internationally to 157 different countries and all 50
states. Yes, the McCallum Theatre and the College of the Desert
have been supportive in every way, but the City of Palm Desert is
mentioned in all of the materials as the destination site for this
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Competition. She felt that was a tremendous amount of great PR
and marketing for the city.
Mayor Spiegel asked how the judges are selected. Ms. Cravens
said from all over the world.
Councilmember Benson said this group came to us a couple of
years ago and practically wanted the City of Palm Desert to fund it
all. They were in desperate trouble and we told them to go into the
community and get their own house in order. Show the city that
you can raise the money and then come back to us. She has been,
as well as Mayor Spiegel, to the Black and White Balls, which have
been tremendously successful over the past two or three years,
and was delighted to hear that they have raised a great deal of
money. Councilmember Benson concluded by saying that they did
what we told them to do and regrouped their own organization and
showed us that they can raise money.
Mayor Spiegel said he was involved in the Joanna Hodges
Competition and enjoyed that very much.
Ms. Craven said certainly the City of Palm Desert has been very
supportive in the past. She was not involved in the Competition in
1997, but as an experienced fundraiser she saw the merit in
helping Ms. Waring and without sounding boastful she said she
would not take on the Presidency unless she had me at her side to
motivate the foundation and so far has been quite successful at
doing that. They are very proud of the fact that they have the
money they have presently, but it is going to probably take another
$250,000 to really finalize all the needs of the Competition. So they
came to the Marketing Committee today to ask for $50,000. It does
not necessary have to be given in one year. It could be given in
2004 and half in 2005. This Competition happens only once every
four years so they will not be coming back to you repeatedly. On
top of that as Chairman of the Development Committee she is very
seriously looking for a sponsor down the line. As yet they do not
have one line up, but they are looking.
Ric Mandelbaum asked if they are a 501C3 and have they been
able to arrange for a lot of publicity with the radio and television
stations. Ms. Cravens said yes. Mr. Mandelbaum felt that the City
of Palm Desert was getting a lot of promotion from this event and
that is certainly worth the $50,000 that is being requested. He
asked Kristy Kneiding if a link could be added to the City's website
that could go directly to the Competition website? Ms. Kneiding
said yes. Both the Committee members and representatives from
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the Virginia Waring International Piano Competition received that
idea very well.
Ms. Cravens responded to Mr. Mandelbaum's question by saying
there have been direct mail advertising materials sent throughout
the world about the competition. Mr. Mandelbaum felt this event
would be huge for the city.
Gary Sherwin said he has worked very closely with the Van
Clyborne Competition, which was and still continues to be, a
premiere event in Texas. He asked if this competition was modeled
after that event? Ms. Cravens said yes. Ms. Cravens said once
they incorporated the orchestra into the competition it really
elevated them into the level of an International Piano Competition.
Dr. Benston said at the end of the Competition in 2005 they really
want to see the fiscal area of this organization strong enough to
maintain its continuity and perpetuity with enough in funding to
pursue the next competition, which will be 2009.
Ms. Kneiding asked if there was an application fee. Ms. Cravens
said yes, and then further explained the process in which a
contestant is chosen and the fees associated with their acceptance.
Mayor Spiegel asked if the City would be listed as a sponsor. Ms.
Cravens said yes, of course.
Motion was made by Ric Mandelbaum to recommend approval to
the City Council for sponsoring the Virgina Waring Piano
Competition in the amount of $50,000. Norine Bowen seconded the
motion, which was carried by a unanimous vote.
B. REVIEW PROPOSED BUDGET
Ms. Close asked if there were any questions regarding the
proposed budget.
Mr. Mandelbaum asked about the cost of Good Housekeeping and
its viability. Ms. Kneiding said the city gets around 5,000 leads a
month from those ads.
Mayor Spiegel told the Committee that the City Council has
instructed staff to go ahead with their budgets. There will not be
any budget cuts for fiscal years 2004-05.
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Mr. Mandelbaum made a motion to recommend approval of the
proposed budget to the City Council. Ms. Byrd seconded the
motion, which carried unanimously.
C. BUS SHELTER PROGRAM
Ms. Kneiding gave an overview of the current Bus Shelter Program.
Mr. Mandelbaum suggested that the bus shelters in Palm Springs
have telephone numbers on them. He added that he felt the bus
shelters were a great way to advertise.
Rick Darius reiterated that the increasing cost would not be on the
additional 12. Ms. Kneiding said that was correct.
Chairman Rodriguez asked if the six bus shelters in Palm Springs
rotate location. Ms. Close said yes, every 30 days.
Councilmember Benson said the CVA met with Marshall Murdock
wherein he gave a synopsis on his evaluation of the CVA. He felt
the valley cities should work together. Ms. Benson thought this
might be the type of advertising that the cities could work together
on. The bus shelter schedules are up in June. This could be
looked at for next years budget.
Ms. Byrd said she would like the contingency funds to be used
towards the airport kiosks and a satellite visitor center at the airport.
Ms. Kneiding said that out of the 23 bus shelters in Palm Desert,
the city donates a few to the Chamber of Commerce for the
advertising of the Golf Cart Parade.
Ms. Gilligan asked Gary Sherwin if these bus shelter ads would
impact advertising with other cities. Mr. Sherwin did not think so.
Michael Shimer asked if the bus shelter advertising was more
effective than having a satellite visitor center in the Palm Springs
Airport.
Chairman Rodriguez liked the satellite visitor center idea.
Ms. Kneiding said that three bus shelters could be added, and still
pursue valley cities opportunities.
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Chairman Rodriguez asked the Committee members if they were in
agreement with the direction of staff. The Committee members
were in agreement with staffs recommendations.
D. PRESENTATION BY BUSINESS SUPPORT MANAGER, RUTH
ANN MOORE, REGARDING CITY RETAIL PROMOTION
Ruth Ann Moore addressed the Committee regarding the City
Retail Promotion program. She briefly explained where the
$50,000 budget monies come from and what they have done with
those monies to promote business in Palm Desert in the past. She
gave examples of the various promotions done by the City. She
said they have had between 100 to 150 merchants participating
each year. However, in 2002 they started to see a significant drop
off without any real explanation. After that year, City Council
suggested that a valley wide project be examined. In that vein, the
City entered into co-sponsorship with The Desert Sun. This
brought a vehicle, which enabled them to go valley wide with the
promotion and also gave them a sales staff. Unfortunately, this
was not as successful as they hoped it would be.
In the past there was a subcommittee that worked under the
Promotions Committee on this project. She felt that since the City
has a new Marketing Committee it was appropriate to come back to
them to get some direction. An attempt to get the department store
managers back together this spring has not been successful.
Taking into consideration the yearly dollar amount and the number
of staff working on this program, Ms. Moore would like direction
from this group. She said their suggestions were to keep the
weekend events but move them into the fall to alleviate the heat
problem. Or, take a whole new approach and instead of working
with hundreds of stores, with such a small staff to do it, try to focus
on a new program which could be institutional. They could use the
$50,000 to boost or layer over the advertising for the retail in the
City, or they could skip a year. She opened this up for the
Committee's recommendations and suggestions to take back to the
City Council.
Melinda Byrd asked if the merchants where pulled for their
feedback, especially after the Labor Day Sale? Ms. Moore said yes
and the following are the results of the Labor Day Sale. 47
responses. 9 successful — 15 fairly successful and 23 said it was
not. 17 increase in sales — 10 decreases — 15 the same. Best time
to have the promotion: 12 said Labor Day — 10 said October - 15
said November and 9 said other. 2 or 3 day sidewalk sale: 3 days
19 — 2 days 18 — 10 no opinion. Will you participate again: 65%
said they would participate of those people who responded to the
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survey. Forms of advertising posters and weather 68% to hot to
have a Sidewalk Sale — 36% hold a sale when population and
seasonal traffic is higher and 29% encourage more merchant
participation.
Ms. Kneiding said she, Ms. Close, Mr. Sherwin from CVA, and Milt
Jones from Palm Springs Life got together to brainstorm other
ideas for promotions. One of the issues was do we want to
continue with the summer promotion or do we want to see a shorter
season.
Ms. Close said there has always been this controversy about
whether they should advertise in the summer time to help the full
time residents and give them great bargains, or do you advertise in
the fall when the merchants are saying there are people here. This
runs into part of the discussion that they had with Mr. Sherwin in a
project that the CVA started a few years ago called, "Pursue Some
Happiness." It was an 8 1/2 x 11 brochure dropped in the Orange
County Register, Los Angeles Times, and the San Diego Union
Tribune. The City of Palm Desert purchased a full -page ad and the
CVA boar the major part of the production expense. Ms. Kneiding
and I discussed whether that was a good vehicle to do again. They
thought maybe it was something that Ms. Moore's program could fit
into. The funds could be used for design promotions and hotel
promotions and get people here and spending their money. This is
also something being proposed to the Committee.
Ms. Kneiding said in order for them to get a good rate in those
newspapers the CVA has to be involved and in order for them to
put their stamp on it the opportunity would have to be offered valley
wide. If we could incorporate the money from the shopping
promotion to kick start it Palm Desert would have a large
representation in this piece we felt it would really be worth it.
Mr. Sherwin said the LA Times extend tourism operations sanction
towards nonprofits a special below market discount rate. In order
to get their participation, that is not necessarily available to cities or
private industries. That is the reason they get the special rate that's
just what they tend to do. One of the things he felt would be helpful
from the committee's perspective is to think about strategy. In the
old days at the CVA, they used to market heavily in the summer
because everybody said, 'We have the business in the season we
don't need marketing any other time." Well, those days are gone.
Now we are marketing in season to capitalize and build market
share, and the people who are coming during season are more
likely to spend more dollars, particularly on El Paseo, than the
people coming during the summer who are a different type of visitor
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and a little more budget conscious. What strategy do you want to
employ. Do you want to maximize return that is already here and
grow your market share from an existing base or do you want to try
to build visitor traffic when you need visitor traffic. Lately, he said
their strategy has been to build up the season because they would
rather have a half -full house with people paying higher rates than a
full house with people paying bargain rate. He said they could
come up with products to work with them on addressing either of
those strategies. But the committee will need to decide which way
you want to go.
Mayor Spiegel said the stores in Palm Desert were upset with the
existence of the street fair. Particularly the upscale stores on El
Paseo. That is the reason money was set aside to use for
advertising when it was needed. The thought was to use the
money when business is the slowest, which is in the summer. We
have been totally unsuccessful in getting a major retailer to
participate in the promotion. The biggest retailer we had was
Jensens.
Chairman Rodriguez said he agreed 100 percent with what Mr.
Sherwin said in that when he looked at the different types of
promotional events in the past, he felt they weren't going to work
August. He said you are not going to get the winter visitor here in
August. He would much rather see the season extended by one
week. Maybe the target date is April or May, or maybe it is
November or December. He didn't know how anyone felt about
that, but that is when you make your money.
Ms. Byrd agreed. She said it is very hard to get their merchants to
do anything extra in January, February, March or April they are so
busy and the certainly won't discount anything at that point, they
don't have to. To be honest, December is not a huge month for
them. Even though it is the Christmas holiday, most people have
already shopped before they get here. Even if they did something
in November or December, or like Chairman Rodriguez said in May
or June, the traffic really drops off after Easter. Just extending one
week around that time would be the most beneficial to either gear
up or help extend it.
Norine Bowen asked if there is money enough to have a specific
promotion for each retail venue. Ms. Moore said her only concern
with that is if the promotions are going to be "citywide" and it is
public dollars, there are areas that are not strategically within a
development, i.e., Highway 111. She also didn't think $50,000
would stretch even seven centers and there are 17. She would say
no.
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Mr. Mandelbaum said he thought Mr. Sherwin and he spoke a
couple of years ago about the fact that the weekends were still
fairly busy during the summer, but it was the other weekdays that
were not. They talked about an extending your stay program
wherein Thursdays or Mondays could be the two extension days if
people were staying for the weekend. That extra night would be
huge for the hotels. The retail stores could give a value card to the
visitor to use on those extended days. Therefore, the hotels get an
extra night and the stores get extra business. That would be a
good way to promote it in the media that was being discussed
earlier with regard to LA, Orange County, and San Diego papers.
Chairman Rodriguez said a subcommittee could be appointed to
determine if there is enough time to put together an advertising
promotion for this year, or forego this year and plan something next
year. He asked who would like to sit on the subcommittee. Emily
Bird, Michael Shimer, and Norine Bowen volunteered to be on the
subcommittee for the retail promotion program.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
None.
VII. REPORT ON CITY COUNCIL ACTION (S)
VIII. REPORTS AND REMARKS
A. Chair
B. Committee Members
C. Staff
Ms. Kneiding congratulated Ms. Close on her ADDY awards.
Ms. Gilligan said that staff met with the smaller hotels to discuss
marketing. She added that the Committee would host the hoteliers
at Desert Willow on June 17th from 5:30 p.m. to 7 p.m. Staff will be
asking the CVA to attend.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Rodriguez acijou ned the meeting at 4:05 p.m.
Lor' Wimbish, Recording Secretary