HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - Public Safety Commission 05/12/2004CITY OF PALM DESERT
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION
MINUTES
May 12, 2004
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Nethery called the meeting to order at 3:30 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Present: Absent:
Commissioner James Butzbach
Commissioner James Larsh
Commissioner Rick Lebel
Commissioner Martin Nethery
Also Present:
City Manager Carlos L. Ortega
Assistant City Manager/Community Services Sheila R. Gilligan
Lt. Steve Thetford
Division Fire Chief Ignacio Otero
Finance Director Paul Gibson
City Engineer Mark Greenwood
Risk Manager Gary Rosenblum
Guests
Brad Harris, Deputy Fire Chief of Operations
David Avila, Fire Marshal
Walt Holloway, Battalion Chief
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III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None.
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Approval of Minutes of the Public Safety Commission meeting of April
14, 2004.
Rec: By Minute Motion, approve Minutes as presented.
Motion by Commissioner Larsh, seconded by Commissioner
Butzbach, to approve the Consent Calendar. Motion carried 4-0.
V. CONSENT ITEMS HELD OVER
VI. NEW BUSINESS
A. Palm Desert Fire Services Monthly Report - March, 2004
Rec: By Minute Motion, receive and file the monthly report for
March, 2004.
The Commission requested future reports include statistics for the
reporting month along with the corresponding month . from the
previous year, and Chief Otero will provide this information along with
year-to-date statistics.
Motion to receive and file the monthly report for March, 2004,
made by Commissioner Butzbach and seconded by
Commissioner Larsh. Motion carried 4-0.
VII. CONTINUED BUSINESS
A. Consideration of Fiscal Year 2004/05 Fire Department Budget for Fire
Services.
Rec: By Minute Motion, receive and file the staff report and provide
comments if deemed appropriate.
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Ms. Gilligan indicated that this item is agendized for the May 13,
2004, City Council meeting.
A question was asked about the status of the discussion with the
Cove Commission. Mr. Ortega indicated that the three cities have not
been able to come to a resolution on the funding formula to be used
beginning July 1, 2004. The options for the City Council on May 13
are (1) agree on a funding formula, or (2) negotiate a separate
contract with Riverside County.
The three city managers made a recommendation to the Cove
Commission, but it was preferred that the representatives take the
issue before their respective City Councils.
The funding issue has to be worked out by July 1. Otherwise, the
Cove Commission cannot guarantee to the County that it will have the
funding to pay for the contract. There are two separate agreements;
the Joint Powers Agreement that specifies how costs will be
distributed, and the County contract with the Cove Commission.
Commissioner Lebel researched the contract with the Cove
Commission Joint Powers Authority Agreement and found that the
agreement had been modified four times since its original inception.
The formula used by the Cove Commission was last modified in 1991,
and that modification resulted in using the assessed valuation as the
means of determining the proportionate percentages used by the
communities to pay for the fire contract.
Mr. Ortega did not feel there was a problem with the formula. The
Commission is responding to a notice provided a year ago by the City
of Indian Wells. The Joint Powers Authority Agreement does not
provide for unilateral decisions. Therefore, Indian Wells unilaterally
cannot decide to change the formula. Their only option was to give
notice of intent to withdraw from the Cove Commission.
A question was raised as to the City's options if Indian Wells does pull
out of the Cove Communities Commission. Mr. Ortega discussed
several options: (1) agree to the Indian Wells formula; (2) if the three
cities cannot agree on a formula, Palm Desert and Rancho Mirage
could agree on a formula and form a JPA; and, (3) If agreement is not
reached on a funding formula, send a letter to the County requesting
that they provide a proposal for a separate contract.
A question was raised as to whether the formula the city managers
recommended would make a significant change in terms of the cost
to the City of Palm Desert, and Mr. Ortega said no. Under the current
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formula (assessed valuation), Palm Desert pays 52%. The formula
the city managers reviewed and recommended put Palm Desert at
about 54%. The major cost shift is between Indian Wells and Rancho
Mirage.
Page three of the May 13 staff report indicates there is the intent of
reducing all firefighter positions down to 2 firefighters per engine and
it shows an alternate funding formula based on those numbers
instead of the Fire Department's budget numbers. Mr. Ortega
mentioned that when the Cove Commission asked the Fire
Department to come up with a proposed 2004/05 budget, it resulted
in a 13% increase. The Cove Commission then instructed the three
city managers to look at alternatives for reducing the cost without
affecting the level of service. There were several alternatives
considered by the city managers, and one recommendation was the
reduction from three firefighters to two that reduced the cost by $1.5
million. Consideration was given to (1) cut back ambulance service
from one station in Palm Desert; (2) not man the big truck; and (3)
take one fireman off each engine. Out of these alternatives, the third
is the one the city manager's recommended.
Chief Harris indicated that when the budget was prepared, positions
were estimated at top steps. Since not all positions are at the top
step, there will be a savings in the budget of about 10%, or about $1
million. Under the current formula, without making any cuts, Palm
Desert would save $500,000 this year.
Mr. Ortega summarized staffs recommendations to the City Council:
1. Provide direction relative to the City's continuing participation
in the Cove Communities joint contract for firefighting and
paramedic services. If the direction is to continue to provide
service under a joint contract, select a level of service and
funding formula; or,
2. Direct staff to negotiate a stand-alone contract for firefighting
and paramedic services with the County of Riverside and
select the level of service desired.
Commissioner Butzbach voiced two concerns: (1) encourage the
representatives of the Cove Commission to resolve a new formula as
necessary, and (2) do not compromise levels of service -- do not go
below three firefighters.
Commissioner Larsh wants to see the level of service remain the
same for the good of the community.
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Commissioner Lebel distributed a copy of a memorandum he
provided to the Cove Commission at its' last meeting. He stated that
he feels we are getting a bargain through the consolidated contract
with the Joint Powers Authority. He is in favor of maintaining the
contract the City of Palm Desert has with the Cove Communities Joint
Powers Authority and feels that money is saved by doing this.
Commissioner Lebel supports the maintenance of existing staffing.
He could not recommend two person staffing under any circumstance.
The Cove Commission and cities should maintain the existing JPA
and contracts, and over the next year perform a comprehensive
study of fire services and make a recommendation prior to next year.
His recommendations are: (1) maintain the continuity of the JPA if at
all possible, and (2) maintain the level of staffing on fire units and
level of service in the community.
Chairman Nethery feels strongly about keeping the staffing level the
same if at all possible within budgetary constraints. He felt it would be
nice if the City could remain part of the Cove Communities
Commission.
Motion to receive and file the Fire Report made by Commissioner
Butzbach and seconded by Commissioner Larsh, Motion carried
4-0.
Motion by CommissionerLebel to recommend to the City Council
that it maintain the existing staffing levels of three persons on an
engine company, seconded by Commissioner Butzbach. Motion
carried 4-0,
Motion by Chairman Nethery that the Public Safety Commission
recognizes the Cove Communities Commission has served the
communities well and is hopeful that agreement can be reached
on a formula, seconded by Commissioner Larsh. Motion carried
4-0.
B. Consideration of Report by Fire Chief Otero Relative to Ambulance
Service Revenues.
Rec: By Minute Motion, receive and file the report and provide
comment/recommendations if deemed appropriate.
Chief Otero mentioned that at the last meeting the Commission asked
for information regarding revenue projection if non-residents were to
be charged for ambulance transportation.
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A question was asked as to the definition of non-resident, and Chief
Otero responded that non-residents are those who do not provide an
address for one of the three cities.
Another question asked was where revenue received from this would
be deposited; i.e. general fund, fire fund? The answer was the fire
fund. If Palm Desert were part of the Cove Communities
Commission, the entire Commission would have to adopt this policy.
Mr. Ortega stated the following should be taken into account when
considering whether to charge non-residents for ambulance services.
A lot of well-being for Palm Desert residents comes from the people
who visit and shop here. Problems may arise in charging non-
residents for ambulance services, such as (1) determining who is a
resident, and (2) billing/collection issues. In most cases, billing is
handled through insurance companies. The City receives benefits
from those who visit - 50% of the City's sales tax is generated by non-
residents. The City collects $3 million in property tax versus $14
million in sales tax.
Motion by Commissioner Butzbach to receive and file the report
and continue matter to June meeting, seconded by Commission
Larsh. Motion carried 4-0.
C. Coachella Valley Association of Governments - Public Safety
Committee Goals for FY 04/05.
Rec: By Minute Motion, receive and file.
Mayor Spiegel, the City's representative to the Coachella Valley
Association of Governments Public Safety Committee, asked that this
information be provided to the Commission.
Motion by Commissioner Lebel, seconded by Commissioner
Larsh, to receive and file the report Motion carried 4-0.
VIII. OLD BUSINESS
A. Update on School Resource Officer Funding.
Rec: By Minute Motion, concur with the recommendations by staff
and encourage further negotiations with Desert Sands Unified
School District.
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The City of Palm Desert is the only city in the Desert Sands Unified
School District that pays for the School Resource Officers in their
entirety. Staff has been successful in opening negotiations with the
District for the position at the Palm Desert High School.
Lt. Thetford reported there are grant funds available under the COPS
in Schools grant program. In order to accomplish the requirements
of the grant, the City would have to terminate its Resource Officer at
the high school and the District would have to pick it up. The grant
would be in a three-year increment, the highest payment being in the
first year. Ms. Gilligan indicated that school district personnel have
met with the County's grant administrator, and the District signed a
Letter of Intent. The grant amount is $125,000 for three years.
The School Resource Officer at Palm Desert Middle School would
remain in the City's budget as it was an addition deemed necessary
in the past.
Motion by Commissioner Lebel, seconded by Commissioner
Larsh, to concur with the recommendations by staff and
encourage further negotiations with Desert Sands Unified School
District. Motion carried 4-0.
B. Update on Highway 74 Signal Proposal.
Rec: By Minute Motion, receive oral report from the Public Works
Department and make recommendations deemed appropriate
by the Public Safety Commission.
Ms. Gilligan reported that this item is on the City Council agenda for
May 13, 2004 as the result of a fatal accident on Highway 74. Mark
Greenwood, City Engineer, was present to respond to questions.
A question was asked concerning the Department of Transportation's
letter to the City that mentions, "The City's project will have to go
through the Department encroachment permit process." It was
recommended that the City consider installing a raised median on
SR-74 between El Paseo and Haystack Road or restrict access to
SR-74 from Bursera Way and Thrush Road in an effort to better
channelize local traffic. Mr. Greenwood reported that staffs proposal
was to include a median from El Paseo to Shadow Mountain. In the
course of discussion, the preferred solution appeared to be to provide
this signal so that those who felt they needed the signal for safety
could use it. Those who preferred the convenience of non -signalized
access would still have that choice. The signal is the first step and
the second step is to provide a second signal at Mesa View.
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A question was asked as to timing, and Mark responded that Caltrans
indicates a six-month process, along with additional time to go
through the encroachment process. The estimated completion date
will be spring, 2005.
Motion by Commissioner Butzbach to concur with staff's
recommendation to the City Council to proceed with design of a
traffic signal for the intersection of Highway 74 and Shadow
Mountain Drive, seconded by Commissioner Lebel. Motion
carried 4-0.
There was discussion about a signal at the intersection of Highway 74
and El Paseo and the installation of a light for southbound traffic to
alert them as to the condition of the intersection. Mark responded that
although Caltrans said it was a good idea, there was no money for
this project. The City would have to put together a project and go
through their encroachment permit process.
C. Update on Program for Reporting Traffic Statistics
Rec: By Minute Motion, receive oral report from Lt. Thetford.
Lt. Thetford distributed sample reports on traffic updates, and asked
the Commission for specific direction on the type of information and
report they would like to receive.
There was discussion about providing statistics on the top three
intersections. A suggestion was made to provide the Summary,
Primary Collision Factors vs. Citations, and Collision Report.
Lt. Thetford will put together a report package for the next meeting for
the Commission's consideration.
Motion by Commissioner Butzbach, seconded by Commissioner
Larsh, to receive the oral report and documents from Lt. Thetford
and to continue this item to the next Public Safety Commission
meeting. Motion carried 4-0.
IX. REPORT ON CITY COUNCIL ACTION(S)
Ms. Gilligan indicated the Council has not met since the last Commission
meeting.
A question was raised as to the status of the General Plan, and Mr. Ortega
reported that it had been adopted by City Council.
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X. REPORTS AND REMARKS
Chairman Nethery appreciated the job done by staff, the Police Department,
and Fire Department.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner Larsh, seconded by Commissioner Lebel, to
adjourn the meeting at 5:10 p.m. Motion carried 4-0.
1 atau
Karen Russo, Recording Secretary
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