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TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE
MINUTES
Tuesday, April 6, 2004 - 2:00 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBER CONFERENCE ROOM
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I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Lewis opened the meeting at 2:00 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Present:
Dale Holtzer, Vice Chairman
Jim Lewis, Chairman
Absent:
Denise Welch, Member
Also Present:
Bob Kohn, Director, Special Programs
Doug Van Gelder, Information Systems Manager
Gail Santee, Recording Secretary
Jerome Pineau, Palm Desert Resident
Kathi Jacobs, Time Warner Company
III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Chairman Lewis introduced Jerome Pineau of Palm Desert to the Committee
members. Mr. Pineau is interested in joining the Committee.
Chairman Lewis noted that Member Rose had resigned due to health reasons.
The Council accepted that resignation during its March 11, 2004 meeting.
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Approval of the February 3, 2004, Technology Committee Meeting
Minutes
Action:
Vice Chair Holtzer moved, seconded by Chair Lewis, to approve the
February 3, 2004, Technology Committee meeting minutes as
presented. Motion carried 2-0 with Member Welch absent.
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V. WRITTEN COMMUNICATION RECEIVED FOR COMMITTEE
A. Memo from Sheila Gilligan re: Issues Taken to the Public Safety
Committee, February 20, 2004.
1. 211 Community Non -Emergency Telephone Line
The Public Safety Committee forwarded a favorable recommendation to
the City Council. The City Council concurred with the recommendation at
its February 26, 2004, meeting, to support the 211 non -emergency
telephone number Zink in Riverside County to social services.
2. Vehicle Transponders at Gated Communities
The Public Safety Committee was advised that knox boxes are used at all
gated communities. These boxes give the public safety departments
immediate access to properties and have caused no problems.
Neither the Police nor Fire Departments are provided with any data from
the surveillance cameras. Whether or not information is gathered by the
country clubs relative to camera surveillance for incoming vehicles is a
subject that should be directed to the individual gated communities.
B. Time Warner letter, 1/30/04 indicating the 4th Qtr. 2003 Franchise Fee of
$202,084.59 as compared to the 3rd Qtr. 2003 Franchise Fee of
$190,968.55.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
None
VII. CONTINUED BUSINESS
A. DISCUSSION of Time Wamer Services (Kathi Jacobs)
Ms. Jacobs is Time Wamer's Director, Govemment & Community
Relations.
1. Govemment Access to the Channel 17 Studio
Ms. Jacobs stated the studio is available to any City employee who takes
the training.
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Regarding public access, there are policies and procedures set up. The
studio is available for use. There are five full-time staff members, three of
them dedicated to the studio and two at master control. There are no part-
time staff members. The public member must take a training class after
which they are certified as an Access Producer. They are then able to
check out any of the portable equipment that can be taken out in the field
to film whatever they chose. They will have been trained on using the Edit
Bay and may do so to their film. It is then broadcast as Public Access.
In terms of volume, since becoming Time Wamer in September 1999,
there have been 15 applicants from Palm Desert for the quarterly public
access training class. Of those 15 applicants, only 6 took the class. Out
of the 6 that took the class, only one submitted a program. Valley -wide
there were 80 applicants; only six submitted programs.
Historically, people have a perception they can make money doing public
access. This is untrue, they cannot. It is not a money -making proposition.
When people take the class and leam they cannot make money, they are
discouraged and don't come back. It is a means of people voicing their
views. It cannot be a commercial program. The topics can include
religious programs.
There is no editorial control over the content of the video, except that it
cannot be indecent or obscene material. However, the FCC does not
clearly define either. It is left up to the cable operator or the franchise
authority to determine if something is indecent or obscene. There have
been problems with this in other locations, not the valley. Problems have
been experienced in the New York, Los Angeles, and other divisions.
Public access is considered a First Amendment Right of free speech
allowing organizations and/or individuals to broadcast agendas that are
not viewed by the majority of community. Because of the First Amendment
Right, the cable company has no authority to prevent it from going out.
Programs can be of a hate nature, offensive in great regard to the general
populace. In some areas, it has been organizations such as the Klu Klux
Klan, White Supremist groups, and a group presenting Nude News.
(Nudity is not considered to be indecent or obscene. Therefore, nudity
can be broadcast on public access channels.) They cause a large number
of phone calls to go to the cable system and to the franchising authority
objecting to the programming. There is no authority to stop them.
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To date, Time Wamer has not experienced this problem in the Valley.
However, it is a concern. Wherever possible, cable companies are
encouraging franchise authorities to eliminate the public part of PEG
(Public, Education, Government) access.
Time Wamer Cable had been negotiating with COD and CalState for
several years to work out arrangements to do programming for the access
channel. Neither school had the curriculum or funding to proceed. Time
Wamer is continuing with those discussions. Each of the institutions has
to have the funding in their programs to be able to develop the curriculum.
Time Warner has the facilities and equipment. There would be some
mutually beneficial programs.
Ms. Jacobs addressed the issues raised by Ms. Holiday in previous
Technology Committee meetings and in face-to-face meetings. She
stated there had probably been a miscommunication in style. Ms. Holiday
had experience in an area where they have non-profit cable access studio
and organization. It is fully staffed and fully equipped, dedicated to
nothing but access channel programming. Ms. Holiday came here finding
staff that do other things besides access programming — all the TV-10
programming is done by this staff, two staff members do the program
insertions on Channels 4, 7, 10, 17, 18, and 20. This is a little different
than what Ms. Holiday had been accustomed to. In tum, Time Warner's
staff was not accustomed to Ms. Holiday's expectations.
Ms. Jacobs noted that Ms. Holiday has taken the class, but has not
checked out the equipment nor submitted any programming.
The studio is available from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Usage must be
scheduled as it is also used for the TV-10 programming.
Ms. Jacobs noted the equipment is used both for public access as well as
for their own programs. In November, when Ms. Holiday had been
actively considering using the studio, the equipment had been taken apart
and put into a mobile unit so that it could be used for Palm Springs Light
Parade and the Palm Desert Golf Cart Parade. No one had signed up to
use it and it had not been loaned out, therefore it was not re -assembled in
the studio. One piece of the equipment was broken, has been sent out for
repair, and it is now operable.
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In response to Ms. Holiday's claim that Time-Wamer did not have talent
releases, Ms. Jacobs responded that they do have talent releases that are
routinely distributed to access programs when they come in to check out
the equipment. The releases are not needed until they check out the
equipment.
Chairman Lewis asked how many cities had public access to Time -
Warner's studio. Ms. Jacobs stated that five of the Valley cities that have
the use of the studio. All but Cathedral City are currently in re -negotiating
their agreements. She pointed out that the public access has been
removed by mutual agreement from all the agreements that are currently
being re -negotiated. Education and government access would stay in
those agreements. City Councils had yet to approve those agreements.
These actions are being prompted by Time-Wamer not having the ability
to control public access content.
2. Broadband Usage
Member Welch had asked for Time-Wamer's definition of "unlimited
usage" and restrictions on the amount of bandwidth used. Ms. Jacobs
responded that "unlimited" means unlimited. There are no restrictions.
Time -Warner does have the ability to monitor bandwidth usage. If a user
is downloading a "zillion" (ie, a bandwidth hog) by downloading an
extraordinary amounts of data, which are normally videos or MP3 files, a
polite letter will be sent out stating it had been noted that their usage is of
an extraordinary volume. In most cases, these are pirated films that are
being downloaded and may have illegal activity involved. In 99% of the
cases, the usage ceases immediately because they are aware someone
(Time-Wamer) is being attention to what they are doing. Again, 99% of
the time, it is a young person who is doing it.
With that stated, Time -Warner does not have tiers, they don't control
usage, and they don't cut a user off. They haven't had to.
Member Welch had also asked how Time-Wamer distinguishes between
non-commercial use and commercial use. Ms. Jacobs noted this was an
area outside her expertise because it is high-speed data. In general, she
surmised that it is based on where the service is located, ie, business park
vs. residential. Vice Chairman Holtzer noted that many people run their
businesses out of their homes. She believes Time -Warner's high-speed
data department has a way of determining the amount of usage over the
internet and whether it is warranted to be a business class. Mr. Kohn
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added that home -run businesses must obtain a business license and a
home occupation permit from the City and thought Time -Warner could
cross-reference the two if they deemed it necessary.
3. Senior/Low-Income Discounts
The cable industry considers the basic service tier (channels up to
Channel 26) to be its low-income option. The cost in Palm Desert is
$10.15 plus franchise fees and taxes. Rancho Mirage has a low-income
discount that is part of their franchise agreement. It provides for
customers to receive the City's low-income discount if they have already
qualified for Edison's Care low-income discount. They have to provide
proof; Time-Wamer does not do any background checks. This discount
amounts to about a $1.00 off. The Committee felt this was a subject the
Mayor would want to look at.
4. 2003/04 15th Annual National Teacher Awards
The Time-Wamer program is nationwide. Educators apply and have until
April 16 to complete their applications. The Desert Cities office has done
this in the past with minimal response. Ms. Jacobs will be re -instituting
some more of this type of program with the Valley. The program is merely
an opportunity for teachers and/or students to participate in programs
where they can win a prize consisting of either money and/or college
scholarships.
Time Wamer is currently running the 25 Best Mom's program. They have
received approximately 1,500 essays from local students nominating their
moms. One mom from each of the three levels, elementary, middle
school, and high school, will be chosen. Each winning student will receive
$500 and a computer. The moms will receive a gift bag.
5. Ms. Jacobs addressed items that appeared in previous minutes.
a. HD -TV: Time-Wamer is and will continue to increase the
number of channels that are in high -definition, not only in the
pay channels, but also in free channels. They have been
negotiating with KMIR, the NBC station, both on a local level
and at the corporate level. Time -Warner has approached the
local ABC station; negotiations are proceeding. ABC will launch
an HD channel this summer. None of the other broadcasters
have an HD channel in mind. The only high -powers in the
valley are KMIR and KESQ and they are the only ones required
by the FCC to go digital. Therefore, they are offering HD. CBS-
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2 is not required to go digital because they are a low -power
station.
b. Time-Wamer is trying to bring KOCE back into the desert.
There are some kinks that need to be worked out, but it is
progressing and will be offered as a free channel to anyone with
a digital box.
c. Time -Warner Cable is involved in the community:
- All the programs carried on Channel 10 are free. None of
the programmers are charged for their programs or airtime. They
are all for -free as a community service, including the Arthritis
Foundation program, UCP, Game of the Week, Valley Views, Talk
of the Desert, and Community Dialogue.
- Time Wamer tapes the Palm Desert Golf Cart Parade, the
Palm Springs Light Parade, the Indian Wells Desert Symphony,
and they are carried in their entirety on Channel 10 as a community
outreach.
- For the City of Palm Desert specifically, Time-Wamer has
sponsored/provided movies in the park in the past. With eleven
franchise authorities to work with in the Valley, it is not easy to do
something in each one of those areas. But, they do try.
- This year, Time-Wamer has retumed to the Student Art &
Essay Contest. It is a worthwhile activity. Time-Wamer's corporate
has charged the local offices with reaching out in the areas of art
and education.
- A couple of years ago, they brought the C-Span school bus
to the Palm Desert Library. She is attempting to get this popular
event back to Palm Desert.
- In 2003, they donated over $800,000 system -wide to local
charities and organizations as well as innumerable volunteer hours.
- In 2002/03, they tutored Lincoln Elementary School 4th
graders. There is a Time -Warner initiative called "A Time to Read".
It is a literacy campaign. They are hoping to bring it back; it is a
matter of scheduling staff time and availability.
- Time-Wamer routinely provides cable service to sporting
events in the Valley: Bob Hope Classic, Nabisco, tennis
tournaments, etc. Time-Wamer provides cable service for their use
to uplink their data. This year, Time-Wamer rescued the Indian
Wells Tennis Gardens during the tennis toumament. The Gardens
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had contracted with Disc to provide high-speed data and it went
down. Within one hour, Time-Wamer had The Gardens up and
running at no charge to The Gardens or the event.
- Time -Warner also provides high-speed cable service to the
Palm Springs Convention Center.
d. Franchise fees on cable modem service: It had been Time -
Warner's position that high-speed data or cable modem service
was a cable service. Every community Time-Wamer has
provided cable service in has received franchise fees. In 2000,
the courts made a decision that is wasn't cable service, it was
an information service. Time -Warner had to stop providing
franchise fees to those entities that had been receiving them.
e. Service to business parks: The area across from Time-
Wamer's office off Cook Street: They are planning service now.
It cost over $100,000 to install the cable. They are providing
service to the customers on the west side of Cook Street; the
east side does not. Mr. Kohn noted he had sent out a survey to
businesses about their cable service and whether or not they
had it or wanted it. Most of the responses indicated the
businesses would not be willing to pay for it. Most of them
wanted at the very least data capability. Ms. Jacobs continued
saying that when cable first came out, it was a video service.
However, cable is now carrying high-speed data service. Time -
Warner is having to go back to install the cable plant. However,
they won't do that unless they know they can get a return on
their investment. They have surveyed all the businesses along
Cook Street, to the east and west of Cook Street, plus the area
off of Country Club and Washington Streets to find out who
wants the service. There is interest on the part of the tenants
of those buildings. The next step is to get a Right of Entry to
allow them to put the service into each building. This is the
responsibility of the owner/building management. This is often
where the delay occurs.
f. Bundling: Time-Wamer does not reduce the rate on cable
service when bundled with high-speed data service. The City
realizes all franchise fees off the cable side.
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g. Parental Control Options: Ms. Jacobs asked the members
which channel did they think was asked to be blocked the most.
The answer: QVC — the shopping channel.
If someone has a digital set top box, there are parental control
options contained within that box that allows one to block by
channel, rating, time, and title. If one does not have a digital set
top box and your TV comes with a V-chip controller, there are
control options within the TV. If someone doesn't have either,
one can block entire channels — not just a single program — by
calling Time -Warner. There is no cost for this service.
Mr. Kohn reported staff had met with Time-Wamer's senior counsel and
had received a red -line draft of the franchise agreement about three
months ago. Mr. Rudell and staff had reviewed that draft. Mr. Kohn
noted there wasn't a lot to negotiate. If one looks at what is required by
law and what is in the agreement, what we have is OK. There are a few
minor things, among them is the term of the agreement. The City has
discussed terms ranging from 5 to 7 years to ten years with 5-year
renewals. Time-Wamer is asking for a 15-year term. Ms. Jacobs
explained Time -Warner is investing millions and millions of dollars in the
infrastructure. With a 5-year agreement, there is no way to re -coup any of
their costs. Ms. Jacobs noted that it is a non-exclusive agreement; the
City is not tied down in anyway shape or form. The City can still form its
own public utility and have its own cable company. On the other hand, the
shorter term agreement hinders the cable company and from a corporate
view point could discourage it from wanting to install advanced technology
in this area. What would be the incentive for Time -Warner to give Palm
Desert all the technology they give to another city with a 15-year
agreement. Since the agreement is a public document, therefore it sets a
precedent for other Time-Wamer communities. She stated Time -Warner
has to stay competitive as new technology is developed. They are
competing against the aggressive satellite providers. They also have
competitors in some of the new gated communities. She noted the cities
are not receiving franchise fees from these providers.
Vice Chairman Holtzer asked what the driving force was behind
completing these negotiations. They have been extended time and time
again.
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Ms. Jacobs noted the City of Coachella signed a 15-year agreement two
years ago. The City of Indio has a 15-year agreement currently on the
table. That agreement is at a standstill as the City of Indio is using the
same attorney the City of Palm Desert is using, Mr. Rudell. Fifteen years
is on the table in other cities, but those negotiations are not far enough
along to know where they are going to go.
The City had discussed the possibility of installing cable in the Council
Chamber in order to transmit proceedings from there. Currently, there is
no interest in having this.
There has also been discussion of having cable TV service at Desert
Willow. The estimated cost would be $25,000.
Mr. Kohn noted the current extension expires June 2004. He intended to
go before the Council to request another 6-month extension in May.
Chairman Lewis asked if a special meeting could be set up with
Committee members, staff, and Mr. Rudell to go over the red -line draft.
The draft has eliminated the "public" in PEG access.
Ms. Jacobs departed the meeting.
Mr. Kohn spoke to the members explaining that Time-Wamer wants to
take away everything that isn't required under Federal law. That is their
goal in all the franchise agreements. The City will not agree to that. Vice
Chairman Holtzer asked what the difference was between PEG access
and community access on Channel 10. It sounds as though they are a
duplication. Mr. Kohn noted that Channel 10 was shared by almost the
whole valley. Palm Desert has the right to have its own channel — 17 —
which has never been used. In PEG, there is a need for the
Govemmental and the Educational portion. The Public access is for the
general public's use and as mentioned earlier, could be the cause of some
concern for what is broadcast as there is no regulatory powers. Noting
how many applications and programs had been submitted since 1999,
Public access is a minor issue for now. However, in ten years and as the
average age of our residents lowers and is more computer literate, it
could be a valuable option.
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Mr. Pineau introduced himself as a 38-year-old Palm Desert resident. He
noted that he would definitely use the facility had he known it was
available. It is a valuable resource. Neither Time-Wamer or the City
advertise its availability. Chairman Lewis stated it was the City's job to
look out for its citizens. If it is not being promoted, why is it an issue in the
negotiations? Mr. Pineau felt that as people get familiar with the
technology, there would be more use of the facility.
Chairman Lewis wanted it to be made public that he and Ms. Jacobs
attended the same Coachella Valley Leadership classes. They had met
about two weeks ago and had a discussion about the Technology
Committee.
B. DISCUSSION of Fiber Optic/Wireless RFP (Bob Kohn)
Mr. Kohn stated he had received comments from Vice Chairman Holtzer
regarding the RFP draft. Some of those changes had been followed and
the RFP is somewhat thinner. The RFP needs to go to Council to see if
they even want to go out with it., to take a look at the City's existing fiber,
potential uses of that fiber, and potential uses of wireless maybe in
combination with fiber. If Council is interested, enough information could
be obtained to make decisions now and in the future for the 24-strand
fiber optic already in the ground of which traffic control is only using two
strands. The thought behind the RFP is if someone could come in and do
an in-depth study of the existing system and the potential of that system
for the City's uses, we could save some significant dollars. Once the RFP
is approved, it would be helpful for one or two members of the Committee
to sit on the review panel that goes through the RFPs and help make a
selection. Discussion evolved around what dollar figure, if any, to put in
the RFP.
Action:
Chairman Lewis moved, seconded by Vice Chairman Holtzer, to
recommend to the Council an RFP for a study of the existing fiber
optic cable and the potential of that system for the City's uses and
dollar savings. Motion carried 2-0 with Member Welch absent.
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VIII. OLD BUSINESS
A. DISCUSSION of the City Website(s) (Doug Van Gelder)
Mr. Van Gelder noted the April Brightside contained an article about the
City's websites in an effort to remind residents and inform new residents of
this source of information.
1. Summary of user statistics
Mr. Van Gelder distributed copies of Monthly Ranking Reports from
Sitewire for the AIPP, E-gov, and TourismNisitors sites. The
reports indicate in what order the websites pop up when using the
eleven top search engines. For example, if "Palm Desert City
Government" is typed in Google, the E-gov site will be in positions 1
and 2. However, if just "Palm Desert" is typed in, the E-gov site
shows up in the 15t spot. The tourism site pops up first — which
is good as it has links to the E-gov and AIPP sites..
Mr. Van Gelder distributed various other usage reports indicating
bandwidth used, hits, visits, most common page views, most
common referring sites, most common browsers, and a host of
other details for www.cityofpalmdesert.com during March 2004.
Mr. Van Gelder felt the most useful information is what are people
looking at , i.e., the General Plan, job openings, agendas,
committees.
As a side note, the City codes are located on another website as it
is hosted by an outside service. It is updated every six months. It
had been discussed that code updates be posted on the City's site
to fill in the time between the six-month updates. Mr. Kohn noted
when a City code is changed, City staff does not "codify" it. The
service codifies it and inserts it in its appropriate location.
Mr. Van Gelder asked if there was any information the Committee
would like to see on a regular basis. Chairman Lewis stated the
bottom line is "are people using it." The March report indicated
that job openings had 2,078 hits and the General Plan had 1,840.
Chairman Lewis asked Mr. Van Gelder to insert an Executive
Summary of the General Plan.
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Incoming emails are forwarded to the appropriate department for
response. General emails are directed to Administrative Services.
2. Status of Agenda/Minutes on the Website
Each City department is responsible for posting its own agendas
and approved minutes.
C. REVIEW of Sitewire's Proposal
The City is currently paying Sitewire about $2,800/month whether the
allotted hours are used up or not. Mr. Kohn reported that staff felt a time -
and -materials maintenance agreement is all that is needed to keep the
websites up to date. Discussions are continuing with the City of Brea.
IX. REPORTS AND REMARKS
A. Council Liaison - none
B. Committee Chairman
Chairman Lewis asked about former Member Rose's recognition date
from the City Council.
C. Committee Members - none
D. Staff - none
IX. ADJOURNMENT
Vice Chair Holtzer moved, seconded by Chairman Lewis, to adjourn. Motion
carried 2-0, with Member Welch absent. The meeting adjoumed at 3:30 p.m.
The next Technology Committee meeting is scheduled for May 4, 2004, at 2:00
p.m., in the Council Chamber Conference Room.
Respectfully submitted,
ail Santee
Recording Secretary
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