HomeMy WebLinkAboutAppeal TT 30438 Ammendment 2 - Destination Dvlpmnt (Stone Eagle)/A. CarverCITY OF PALM DESERT
DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
REPORT ADDENDUM
REQUEST: Consideration of an appeal to a decision of the Planning Commission
approving a request by DESTINATION DEVELOPMENT CORP. for
approval of Amendment No. 2 to Tentative Tract Map 30438 (Stone Eagle)
to adjust the approved pad elevations on certain lots shown on the tentative
tract map including, but not limited to, certain residential lots and the golf
maintenance facility. APN's 652-020-001 through 004, 652-070-002 thru
004 and 006 through 010.
SUBMITTED BY: Steve Smith, Planning Manager
APPLICANT: Destination Development Corporation
74-001 Reserve Drive
Indian Wells, CA 92210
APPELLANT: Antoinette Carver
P.O. Box 4447
Palm Desert, CA 92261-4467
CASE NO:
DATE:
CONTENTS:
Recommendation:
TT 30438 Amendment No. 2
April 14, 2005
April 6, 2005 letter from applicant.
That the appeal of the Planning Commission decision relating to TT 30438
Amendment No. 2 be denied and the Planning Commission approval and
conditions be affirmed.
Discussion:
Attached is a letter from the applicant withdrawing the request to raise the maintenance
building pad by two feet. This was the central concern expressed in Mrs. Carver's appeal.
The issue on appeal appears to be moot. The City Attorney advises that the matter must
still be acted upon by the City Council.
Report Addendum
TT 40438 Amendment No. 2
April 14, 2005
Submitted by: Department Head:
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Steve Smith it Drell
Planning Manager Director of Community Development
Appr v : Approval:
Omer Cr Carlos L. O a
ACM for lopment Services City Manager
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CITY COUNCIL ACTION:
APPROVED DENIED
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April 6, 2005
Steve Smith
City of Palm Desert
73-150 Fred Waring Drive
Palm Desert, CA 92260
Dear Steve:
.RECEIVED
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT
CITY OF PALM DESERT
We are writing concerning the appeal of Antoinette Carver of the planning
commission's decision Case No. TT 30438 Amendment #2. Mrs. Carver's
appeal is based on our request to raise the maintenance building pad elevation
by 2 '. While meeting with our flood control engineer recently we questioned the
absolute need to raise the pad by 2. His response was that leaving the pad at
elevation 629 and not raising it 2' to elevation 631 would afford us the flood
protection we need, Based on this information we withdraw our request to raise
the maintenance building pad from elevation 629 to 631.
If you need further information, do not hesitate to contact me.
Sincerely,
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Sr. VP Construction
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cc: Ted Lennon
7-+-001 Re.seme, Drive, InJian Wells, CA ?2210
CITY OF PALM DESERT
DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
STAFF REPORT
REQUEST: Consideration of an appeal to a decision of the Planning Commission
approving a request by DESTINATION DEVELOPMENT CORP. for
approval of Amendment No. 2 to Tentative Tract Map 30438 (Stone Eagle)
to adjust the approved pad elevations on certain lots shown on the tentative
tract map including, but not limited to, certain residential lots and the golf
maintenance facility. APN's 652-020-001 through 004, 652-070-002 thru
004 and 006 through 010.
SUBMITTED BY: Steve Smith, Planning Manager
APPLICANT: Destination Development Corporation
74-001 Reserve Drive
Indian Wells, CA 92210
APPELLANT: Antoinette Carver
P.O. Box 4447
Palm Desert, CA 92261-4467
CASE NO: TT 30438 Amendment No. 2
DATE: April 14, 2005
CONTENTS: Staff Recommendation
Draft Resolution
Background & Discussion
March 15, 2005 Planning Commission Staff Report
Planning Commission Resolution No. 2327
Plans & Exhibits
Recommendation:
That the appeal of the Planning Commission decision relating to TT 30438
Amendment No. 2 be denied and the Planning Commission approval and
conditions be affirmed.
Background:
October 24, 2002 City Council approved a series of applications and a development
agreement for the project known as "The Crest" and now as "Stone Eagle." The project
is an exclusive gate -guarded residential village and golf course comprising 44 single
family lots, a 15,000 square foot clubhouse and 18-hole golf course located west of
Staff Report
TT 30438 Amendment No. 2
April 14, 2005
Highway 74 with access from a new road across the Palm Valley Channel opposite
Homestead Road.
August 17, 2004 Planning Commission approved Amendment No. 1 to TT 30438 which
adjusted several lot lines while retaining the total lot count at 44, and adjusted the
approved pad elevations in the area west of the storm channel opposite Somerset.
Generally, the lots at the northwest corner of the map were lowered by up to 15 feet,
while those in the southeast area were raised three to five feet. The six lots at the south
end were lowered one to two feet. The elevation of the maintenance building pad was
not adjusted as part of Amendment No. 1.
In January, 2005, Destination Development Corporation submitted a request to adjust
pad heights in the area of the 44 residential lots and to raise the maintenance facility pad
two feet at the west end and lower it eight feet at the east end.
March 15, 2005, Planning Commission approved Amendment No. 2 adjusting the
pad elevations as requested, subject to conditions. Condition No. 2 reads:
That the plans for buildings, structures and landscaping in the
maintenance area shall be placed on a Planning Commission
agenda for review and comment once approved by the Architectural
Review Commission.
March 29, 2005 this timely appeal was filed by Mrs. Carver, a property owner north and
west of the maintenance building. Mrs. Carver indicates that the pad for the maintenance
facility should not be raised by.two feet without first having detailed architectural and
landscaping plans which confirm that the view from her residence will not be impaired and
thereby devalue her property.
The Planning Commission action reverses that and allows the increased pad height,
subject to the applicant obtaining approval of an acceptable design solution.
A. ADJACENT ZONING AND LAND USE:
North:
HPR / vacant
South:
PR-8 / condos
East:
PR-8 / condos
West:
County / vacant
B. GENERAL PLAN:
Hillside Reserve.
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Staff Report
TT 30438 Amendment No. 2
April 14, 2005
DETAILS OF CURRENT PROPOSAL:
The applicant proposes to alter approved pad heights in the area of the maintenance
facility and on some of the 44 residential lots.
MAINTENANCE BUILDING
The pad in this area was originally shown at 629 on the August 17, 2004 amendment.
The proposal at this time is to raise the west part of the maintenance area two feet to 631
and lower the southeast corner eight (8) feet to 621. The applicant advises that the
increase in pad elevation is necessary in order to be adequately protected from flooding.
Natural grade in this area ranges from 635 at the west end to 610 at the east end.
Prior to the Planning Commission hearing, staff had been contacted by two property
owners adjacent to the maintenance area (Bill Carver at elevation 680 and Janice Wood
at elevation 670). Both expressed concern with the location of the maintenance building
in general and specifically its appearance, odor and noise. In response to those
concerns, the applicant changed the layout of the maintenance facility by moving the
building to the north side of the site so that it will help screen the operations and eliminate
the view into service bays.
During the ARC review of preliminary plans for the maintenance facility, the applicant
assured ARC that the area would be completely screened from the adjacent properties.
Of course, raising this area two feet will make that commitment more difficult to achieve.
Preliminary plans and a photo simulation prepared by the applicant shows a system of
berms and intense landscaping being installed to the north and west of the maintenance
building. This is potentially an acceptable solution but additional detail is needed before
it can be presented to the Architectural Review Commission.
LOTS 1 -10
This north area of lots originally had four lots which were set above natural grade. August
17, 2004 the area was lowered 2-15 feet which put all ten lots below natural grade. It is
now proposed to raise these lots 2 to 3.5 feet. All lots will continue to be at or below
natural grade.
LOTS 11 - 20
This area, south of the previous group originally had seven lots above natural grade. The
August 17, 2004 approval raised these pads so that eight lots were above natural grade.
All of these lots will now be above natural grade.
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Staff Report
TT 30438 Amendment No. 2
April 14, 2005
The applicant notes that these lots need to be above natural grade due to the height of
the lake which provides drainage to much of the area.
LOTS 21 - 27
In this next group of seven lots, six were originally above natural grade. The August 17,
2004 amendment resulted in all seven lots being above natural grade. The present
request would increase the height of these lots an additional 1.5 to 2 feet. This increase
in height is necessary to make the area consistent with Lots 11 through 20.
LOTS 28.29 AND 30
These three lots were originally below natural grade, then lowered three to four feet on
the August 17, 2004 map. Now they will be raised three feet and still be below natural
grade.
LOTS 31, 32. 33 AND 34
These four lots have always been above natural grade and will remain so on the new
map.
LOTS 35, 36 AND 37
These three lots were raised on the August 17, 2004 amendment and will be raised again
on this amendment, but will still remain at or below natural grade.
LOTS 38 THROUGH 44
These seven lots are at the south end of the project. The grades on these lots were
lowered on the August 17, 2004 map and will be unchanged on this proposed map.
CLUBHOUSE PAD
The clubhouse pad has remained at the natural grade (650') on all three maps.
Analysis:
The applicant advises that changes to onsite flood control facilities necessitates raising
pad levels in several areas of the map.
Also, since the August 17, 2004 amendment they have learned to better anticipate soil
shrinkage and subsidence in this area. Consequently, they are better able to balance the
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Staff Report
TT 30438 Amendment No. 2
April 14, 2005
"cut" and "fill" areas in the map. This will limit the amount of dirt that would need to be
imported or exported to or from the site.
In the maintenance area, the basic pad is proposed to be raised two feet from 629 to 631.
This increase is needed to provide adequate flood protection.
As of the review by Planning Commission and the writing of this report we did not have
detailed plans for buildings, structures and landscaping in this area. The applicant was
cooperative in amending the site plan of the maintenance facility and agreed to meet with
the appellant once detailed plans were prepared. The final building and landscape plans
still need final approval by the Architectural Review Commission. Condition No. 2 of the
Planning Commission approval requires that the plans for the maintenance facility be
placed on the Planning Commission agenda for review and comment once they are
approved by the Architectural Review Commission.
Conclusion:
The Architectural Review Commission and Planning Commission are aware of Mrs.
Carver's concerns. The applicant still requires final approval from the Architectural
Review Commission. If Mrs. Carver is not satisfied with the design solution which is
eventually approved by the Architectural Review Commission, thatdecision is appealable
to the City Council.
Staff recommends that the current appeal be denied and that the Planning Commission
approval and conditions relating to TT 30438 Amendment No. 2 be affirmed.
Submitted y:
Steve Smith
Planning Manager
Appr al:
Homer Cro
ACM for Devel(p rent Services
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Department Head:
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Phil rell L ell,
Director of Community Development
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Carlos L. Ortega U
City Manager
ANTOINETTE CARVER
March 21, 2005
City of Palm Desert
Architectural Review Committee
73-510 Fred Waring Drive
Palm Desert, CA 92260
Re: Stone Eagle (Destination Development Corporation)
Dear Sir or Madam:
mAR 2005
JIfMtiNITY DEVRLOPMIE,:�T E;4PARTMENT
CITY OF PALM DESERT
Ted Lennon of Destination Development Corporation promised my neighbors and me
that he would submit for our review Ariel photographs with superimposed drawings so that
we could clearly see the structures and their layout prior to his company moving any further
forward with the proposed maintenance yard. To date we have seen none of the items
promised.
At the most recent Planning Commission hearing approval was given to raise the
maintenance facility pad higher than it is at present. The site photographs used at this
hearing to illustrate the view from my property were outdated, taken from a useless vantage
point, and did not in any way show the full extent of the negative impact on my two
properties; particularly 72-275 Upper Way West, which abuts the proposed maintenance
yard. I am concerned that you, too, may have been supplied with these less -than -accurate
photographic representations of the site.
Before you make a determination about the building's architecture, the roof style, or the
type of materials to be used, I urge you, please, take a moment to come to my home, which
is now in the final stages of construction. Stand on my property — right where my house
sits. Step inside. Take a loop at Stone Eagles' pad from my living room, dining room,
kitchen, bedroom, courtyard, driveway court, and guest casita. See for yourselves (at its
current elevation) the devastating impact this facility has on my only down -hill view; on any
peaceful mountainside living experience I had hoped to realize; and on the future value of
my property.
Thank you for your thoughtful consideration in this matter.
Antoinette Carver
Upper Way West Homeowner
P.O. BOX 4447 • PALM DESERT/CA • 92261-4447
PHONE: (760) 568-4464 • FAX: (760) 773-5374
ANTOINETTE CARVER
March 21, 2005
City of Palm Desert 3C
City Council
73-510 Fred Waring Drive
Palm Desert, C.A. 92260
Re: Stone Eagle (Destination Development Corporation).
Dear Sirs or Madams:�ea
I am writing to the ruling of the City of Palm Desert Planning Commission
based on their €allure to disclose all of the parcels to be discussed for possible amendment
at the public hearing, which took place Tuesday, evening, March 15, 2005.
The City's Notice of a Public Hearing stated that Notice is hereby given that a public
hearing will be held before the Palm Desert Planning Commission to consider a request by
Destination Development Corp. for approval of Amendment No. 2 to Tentative Tract Map
30438 to adjust pad elevations in the area west of the storm channel opposite the
Sommerset Community. This notice specifically names Assessor's Parcel Numbers 652-020-
001 and 652-070-002 through 652-070-010. There was no mention in the notification of
any discussion surrounding the maintenance facility site (parcel number 652-020-003 or 652-
020-004), or parcel number 652-020-002, for that matter.
The site photographs that were used at the this hearing to illustrate the view from my
property were outdated, taken from a useless vantage point, and did not in any way show
the full extent of the negative impact on my two properties; particularly 72-275 Upper Way
West, which abuts the proposed maintenance yard.
It appears, with the exception of Sommerset, that notifications were sent to only three
property owners in the area. We all hope to hear, from you concerning this matter.
Sincerely,
Antoinette Carver
Upper Way West Homeowner
P.O. BOX 4447 • PALM DESERT/CA • 92261-4447
PHONE: (7b0) 568-4464 • FAX: (760) 773-5374
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Sheila R. Gilligan, City Clerk
CITY OF PALM DESERT
DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOP
STAFF REPORT
TO: Planning Commission
DATE: March 15, 2005
CASE NO: TT 30438 Amendment No. 2
REQUEST: Approval of Amendment No. 2 to the approved tentative map to adjust the
approved pad elevations in the area west of the storm channel opposite the
Somerset community. APN's 652-020-001 & 002, 652-070-002 thru 010.
APPLICANT: Destination Development Corporation
74-001 Reserve Drive
Indian Wells, CA 92210
I. BACKGROUND:
October 24, 2002 City Council approved a series of applications and a development
agreement for the project known as 'The Crest" and now as "Stone Eagle." The project
is an exclusive gate -guarded residential village and golf course comprising 44 single
family lots, a 15,000 square foot clubhouse and 18-hole golf course located west of
Highway 74 with access from a new road across the Palm Valley Channel opposite
Homestead Road.
August 17, 2004 Planning Commission approved Amendment No. 1 to TT 30438 which
adjusted several lot lines while retaining the total lot count at 44, and adjusted the
approved pad elevations in the area west of the storm channel opposite Somerset.
Generally, the lots at the northwest corner of the map were lowered by up to 15 feet,
while those in the southeast area were raised three to five feet. The six lots at the south
end were lowered one to two feet.
A. ADJACENT ZONING AND LAND USE:
North:
HPR / vacant
South:
PR-8 ! condos
East:
PR-8 / condos
West:
County / vacant
B. GENERAL PLAN:
Hillside Reserve.
STAFF REPORT
CASE NO. TT 30438 AMENDMENT NO.2
MARCH 15, 2005
II. CURRENT PROPOSAL:
The applicant proposes to alter approved pad heights on the 44 residents lots and in the
area of the maintenance facility.
LOTS 1 -10
This north area of lots originally had four lots which were set above natural grade. August
17, 2004 the area was lowered 2-15 feet which put all ten lots below natural grade. It is
now proposed to raise these lots 2 to 3.5 feet. All lots will continue to be at or below
natural grade.
LOTS 11 - 20
This area, south of the previous group originally had seven lots above natural grade. The
August 17, 2004 approval raised these pads so that eight lots were above natural grade.
All of these lots will now be above natural grade.
The applicant notes that these lots need to be above natural grade due to the height of
the lake which provides drainage to much of the area.
LOTS 21 - 27
In this next group of seven lots, six were originally above natural grade. The August 17,
2004 amendment resulted in all seven lots being above natural grade. The present
request would increase the height of these lots an additional 1.5 to 2 feet. This increase
in height is necessary to make the area consistent with Lots 11 through 20.
LOTS 28.29 AND 30
These three lots were originally below natural grade, then lowered three to four feet on
the August 17, 2004 map. Now they will be raised three feet and still be below natural
grade.
LOTS 31.32. 33 AND 34.
These four lots have always been above natural grade and will remain so on the, new
map.
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STAFF REPORT
CASE NO. TT 30438 AMENDMENT NO.2
MARCH 15, 2005
LOTS 35.36 AND 37
These three lots were raised on the August 17, 2004 amendment and will be raised again
on this amendment, but will still remain at or below natural grade.
LOTS 38 THROUGH 44
These seven lots are at the south end of the project. The grades on these lots were
lowered on the August 17, 2004 map and will be unchanged on this proposed map.
MAINTENANCE BUILDING
The pad in this area was originally shown at 629 on the August 17, 2004 amendment.
The proposal at this time is to raise the west part of the maintenance area two feet to 631
and lower the southeast comer eight feet to 621. The applicant advises that the increase
in pad elevation is necessary in order to be adequately protected from flooding. Natural
grade in this area ranges from 635 at the west end to 610 at the east end.
Staff had been contacted by two property owners adjacent to the maintenance area (Bill
Carver at elevation 680 and Janice Wood at elevation 670). Both expressed concern with
the location of the maintenance building in general and specifically its appearance, odor
and noise.
During the ARC review of plans for the maintenance facility, the applicant assured ARC
that the area would be completely screened from the adjacent properties. Of course,
raising this area two feet will make that commitment more difficult to achieve.
CLUBHOUSE PAD
The clubhouse pad has remained at the natural grade (650') on all three maps.
III. ANALYSIS:
The applicant advises that changes to onsite flood control facilities necessitates raising
pad levels in several areas of the map.
Also, since the August 17, 2004 amendment they have learned to better anticipate soil
shrinkage and subsidence in this area. Consequently, they are better able to balance the
"cut" and "fill" areas in the map. This will limit the amount of dirt that would need to be
imported or exported to or from the site.
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STAFF REPORT
CASE NO. TT 30438 AMENDMENT NO.2
MARCH 15, 2005
In the maintenance area, the basic pad is proposed to be raised two feet from 629 to 631.
This increase is needed to provide adequate flood protection. As of this time we do not
have final plans for buildings, structures and landscaping in this area. Once said plans
have been approved by ARC, it is staffs intention to return to the Planning Commission
for review and comment.
IV. CEQA REVIEW:
The proposed amendments are within the scope of the previous CEQA review and the
EIR which was prepared for the project. No further environmental review is necessary.
V. RECOMMENDATION:
That Planning Commission adopt the findings and adopt Planning Commission
Resolution No. approving Case No. TT 30438 Amendment No. 2, subject to
conditions.
VI. ATTACHMENTS:
A. Draft resolution
B. Legal notice
C. Comments from city departments and other agencies
D. Plans and exhibits
Prepared by: Rev' wed and Approved by:
Steve ith Phil Drell
Planning Manager Director of Community Development
Review d Concur:
Homer Croy
ACM for Develo nt Services
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PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION NO.
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
PALM DESERT, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING AN AMENDMENT TO A
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP TO ADJUST THE PAD HEIGHTS WHICH
WERE DELINEATED ON THE STONE EAGLE TENTATIVE MAP
AMENDMENT NO. 1.
CASE NO. TT 30438 AMENDMENT NO. 2
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission of the City of Palm Desert, California, did on
the 15th day of March, 2005, hold a duly noticed public hearing to consider the request of
DESTINATION DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION (Stone Eagle) as described above; and
WHEREAS, the City Council by its Resolution No. 02-137 originally approved TT
30438; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission by its Resolution No. 2288 approved TT 30438
Amendment No. 1; and
WHEREAS, at said public hearing, upon hearing and considering all testimony and
arguments, if any, of all interested persons desiring to be heard, said Planning Commission
did find the following facts and reasons to exist to justify its actions, as described below:
1. That the amended map is consistent with applicable general and specific plans,
as amended.
2. That the design or improvement of the amended subdivision is consistent with
applicable general and specific plans.
3. That the site is physically suitable for the type of development.
4. That the site is physically suitable for the density of development.
5. The amended design of the subdivision or the proposed improvements are not
likely to cause substantial environmental damage or substantially and avoidably
injure fish or wildlife or their habitat.
6. That the amended design of the subdivision or the type of improvements are
not likely to cause serious public health problems.
7. That the amended design of the subdivision or the type of improvements will
not conflict with easements, acquired by the public at large, for access
through or use of property within the proposed subdivision.
PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION NO.
S. That the amended design of the subdivision or the type of improvements will
not restrict solar access to the property.
WHEREAS, in the review of this tentative tract map the planning commission has
considered the effect of the contemplated action on the housing needs of the region for
purposes of balancing these needs against the public service needs of the residents of the
City of Palm Desert and its environs, with available fiscal and environmental resources; and
WHEREAS, the proposed amendments to pad elevations are within the scope of the
Environmental Impact Report which was prepared and certified for this project and the
Director of Community Development has determined that no additional environmental review
is required.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Planning Commission of the City of Palm
Desert, California, as follows:
1 . That the above recitations are true and correct and constitute the findings of
the Planning Commission in this case.
2. That Case No. TT 30438 Amendment No. 2 adjusting the approved pad
heights per the amended map are hereby approved, subject to conditions.
PASSED, APPROVED and ADOPTED at a regular meeting of the Palm Desert Planning
Commission, held on this 1 th day of March, 2005, by the following vote, to wit:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
ATTEST:
PHILIP DRELL, Secretary
Palm Desert Planning Commission
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DAVE TSCHOPP, Chairperson
PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION NO.
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL
CASE NO. TT 30438 AMENDMENT NO. 2
1. That all conditions of approval imposed on the original TT 30438 approval shall be
conditions of this approval.
2. That the plans for buildings, structures and landscaping in the maintenance area shall
be placed on a Planning Commission agenda for review and comment once approved
by the Architectural Review Commission.
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STONE f-AGLE
February 24, 2005
Mr. Steve Smith
City of Palm Desert
73-150 Fred Waring Drive
Palm Desert, CA 92260
Re: Stone Eagle Lot Elevations
Dear Steve:
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CITY OF PALM DESERT
I am writing to explain our need to adjust the lot elevations at Stone Eagle. Our original
tentative map was approved and then in August of 2004 we submitted a map for approval
with adjusted lot elevations. In January of 2005 we submitted another map with further
adjustments to lot elevations. This third submittal is pending approval and will be on the
March 15, 2005 Planning Commission Agenda.
Designing a hillside development is out of the ordinary and much more difficult than
working with a flat site. Initially, we had to work with a restraint that we had little to no
control over, which was flood control. This restraint controlled the elevations of certain
lots that had to be above the flood hazard. Once these lot elevations were established the
relationship of adjacent lots had to be maintained to meet City requirements such as grade
restrictions for city streets and driveways. Once the flood controlled lot elevations were
established and the remaining lots sited in relation to the flood controlled lots the next
issue to address was balancing the cut and fill on the site. A balanced site is one that uses
the cut dirt to make the dirt fills within the limits of the site and no dirt is moved on or off
the site. This is desirable from the City's standpoint as large earth moving trucks are not
transporting large quantities of dirt through city neighborhoods. The obvious nuisances
are noise and dirty streets.
Upon completion of a grading plan we measure the quantities of cut and fill to determine
the site balance. These measurements and calculations are done with computer software
programs. On Stone Eagle we have commissioned these balance calculations from our
civil engineer, golf course designer and grading contractor to make sure we are getting
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February 25, 2005
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accurate data. We have seen wide fluctuations in the balance calculations from the
various grading plans (many which the City has not seen) we have designed.
The first lot elevation changes we made in August of 2004 were designed to produce
more cut to balance the site. In January the changes submitted were to slightly reduce the
cut quantities by raising the the lots generally from 1 to 3 feet to reduce the cut and
balance the site. This raises the question why did we make adjustments to increase the
cut in August of 2004 and then in January of 2005 make adjustments to reduce the cut.
This is explained by a factor for shrinkage and subsidence used in the balance
calculations. The shrinkage and subsidence factor is different for every site depending on
the characteristics of the soil. It can range from 0 to 25%. When grading hundreds of
thousands of cubic yards of dirt, 0-25% can be a large quantity. We gathered data from
our civil engineer, geotechnical engineer and grading contractor to develop a shrinkage
and subsidence factor to use in the balancing calculation.
After our August 2004 adjustments we learned more about the actual shrinkage and
subsidence on our site by grading the golf course portion on the site. Using the actual
factor from the golf course we re -calculated the balance for the residential grading and
learned we needed to make adjustments. Hence the January 2005 submittal.
Another issue you asked me to address is our thoughts on screening Stone Eagle from our
neighbors at Sommerset. The grading plans submitted show a berm along the channel
separating Stone Eagle and Sommerset. The height of the berm is limited to the
horizontal area available to build the berm. For example to build a berm 6 feet tall with
2:1 slopes requires 24 feet of horizontal area. Once Stone Eagle is graded and the berm
built between Stone Eagle and Sommerset we will add plant material, garden walls and/or
fences to better develop the screen. In the past we met with Sommerset representatives
and offered to plant additional oleanders to complete an oleander hedge between
Sommerset and Stone Eagle. They were adamant that they did not want more oleanders
blocking their views. I believe if a poll were taken from Sommerset residents some
would want to see Stone Eagle others would want a screen between Sommerset and Stone
Eagle.
The maintenance building pad was originally submitted at elevation 629. Our flood
control designer advised the pad had to be at elevation 631 to be protected from flooding.
We raised the maintenance building pad to 631 and lowered a portion of the pad not in
the flood hazard to elevation 621.
Attached is table A showing natural grade of lots and the elevation of the lots based on
the first submitted design, August 2004 submitted design, January 5 submitted design and
the difference between natural grade and the latest design. As you can see from the
attached table the majority of lots either stayed the same or were lowered from natural
Steve Smith
February 25, 2005
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grade. Of the lots that were raised, numbers 11-20 were raised for flood control and lots
21-27 were raised to maintain a reasonable relationship with lots 11-20.
Attached is a map identifying the lot locations and elevations.
If you need further information please do not hesitate to contact me at 674-2232.
Sincerely,
ill Munson
Sr. VP Construction
Attachments
cc: Ted Lennon
Nizar Farhat
1
TABLE A
Elevation
Difference
Lot Number
Natural Grade
First Sub -total
August 2004
January 2005
From Natural
Sub -total
Sub -total
to January
2005 Submittal
1
700
695.0
695.0
698.0
-2
2
705
700.0
695.0
698.0
-7
3
695
700.0
690.0
693.0
-2
4
695
695.0
685.0
688.0
-7
5
690
695.0
680.0
683.0
-7
6
685
695.0
680.0
683.0
-2
7
696
693.0
685.0
688.0
-8
8
690
682.0
680.0
683.5
-6.5
9
650
650.0
645.0
647.0
-3
10
655
648.0
645.0
647.0
-8
11
636
644.0
645.0
647.0 +�.
+11
12
637
645.0
645.5
647.0 z
+10
13
641
645.0
645.5
648.0 r';
+7
14
642
645.0
645.5
648.0
+6
15
646
646.0
646.0
648.5
+2
16
647
647.0
650.0
652.0
+5
17
650
649.0
652.0
654.0
+4
18
652
650.0
655.0
657.0
+5
19
654
652.0
658.0
660.0
+6
20
656
655.0
660.0
662.0
+6
21
690
658.0
675.0
677.0
+7
22
662
665.0
670.0
671.5
+9
23
655
665.0
665.0
667.0
+12
24
654
663.0
665.0
667.0
+13
25
647
661.0
660.0
662.0
+15
26
650
657.0
660.0
662.0
+12
27
648
656.0
658.0
659.5
+11
28
675
655.0
667.0
669.0
-6
29
678
670.0
674.0
676.0
-2
30
680
670.0
676.0
678.0
-2
31
683
670.0
684.0
686.0
+3
32
675
690.0
690.0
692.0
+17
33
693
693.0
696.0
698.0
+5
34
705
700.0
695.0
697.5
-8
35
715
680.0
705.0
709.0
-6
36
694
676.0
690.0
694.0
0
37
698
665.0
675.0
679.0
-11
38
661
665.0
665.0
665.0
+4
39
667
667.0
666.0
666.0
-1
40
668
670.0
668.0
668.0
0
41
670
672.0
670.0
670.0
0
42
675
676.0
673.0
673.0
-2
43
678
680.0
676.
676.0
-2
44
683
683.0
682.0
682.0
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73-5 to FRED WARING DRIVE
PALM DESERT, CALIFORNIA 92260-2578
TEL: 760 346-o6i I
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CITY OF PALM DESERT
LEGAL NOTICE
CASE NO. TT 30438 AMENDMENT #2
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that a public hearing will be held before the Palm Desert Planning
Commission to consider a request by DESTINATION DEVELOPMENT CORP. for approval of
Amendment No. 2 to Tentative Tract Map 30438 to adjust pad elevations in the area west
of the storm channel opposite the Sommerset community. APN's 652-020-001 and 652-
070-002 thru 010.
SAID public hearing will be held on Tuesday, March 15, 2005, at 6:00 p.m. in the Council
Chamber at the Palm Desert Civic Center, 73-510 Fred Waring Drive, Palm Desert,
California, at which time and place all interested persons are invited to attend and be heard.
Written comments concerning all items covered by this public hearing notice shall be
accepted up to the date of the hearing. Information concerning the proposed project and/or
negative declaration is available for review in the Department of Community Development
at the above address between the hours of 8:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m. Monday through
Friday. If you challenge the proposed actions in court, you may be limited to raising only
those issues you or someone else raised at the public hearing described in this notice, or in
written correspondence delivered to the Planning Commission at, or prior to, the public
hearing.
PUBLISH: Desert Sun PHILIP DRELL, Secretary
March 4, 2005 Palm Desert Planning Commission
CIIY OF P 0 [ M 0 [ S I P I
73-510 FRED WARING DRIVE
PALM DESERT, CALIFORNIA 92260-2578
TEL: 760 346—o6i 1
FAx:76o 341-7098
info@palm-desert.org
CITY OF PALM DESERT
LEGAL NOTICE
CASE NO. TT 30438 AMENDMENT #2
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that a public hearing will be held before the Palm Desert City
Council to consider an appeal to a decision of the'Planning Commission approving a request
by DESTINATION DEVELOPMENT CORP, for approval of Amendment No. 2 to Tentative
Tract Map 30438 to adjust pad elevations on certain lots shown on the tentative tract map
including, but not limited to, certain residential lots and the golf maintenance facility. APN's
652-020-001 thru 004; 652-031-002; 652-070-002 thru 004 and 006 thru 010.
SAID public hearing will be held on Thursday, April 14, 2005, at 4:00 p.m. in the Council
Chamber at the Palm Desert Civic Center, 73-510 Fred Waring Drive, Palm Desert,
California, at which time and place all interested persons are invited to attend and be heard.
Written comments concerning all items covered by this public hearing notice shall be
accepted up to the date of the hearing. Information concerning the proposed project is
available for review in the Department of Community Development at the above address
between the hours of 8:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m. Monday through Friday. If you challenge
the proposed actions in court, you may be limited to raising only those issues you or
someone else raised at the public hearing described in this notice, or in written
correspondence delivered to the City Council at, or prior to, the public hearing.
PUBLISH: Desert Sun RACHELLE D. KLASSEN, City Clerk
April 2, 2005 City of Palm Desert, California
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION
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to make it part of the architecture. Commissioner Lopez wanted to
make sure that they've provided a place for the trash cans so that
they're screened. Mr. Smith stated that landscape plans have been
submitted and Ms. Hollinger has submitted her comments to the
landscape architect.
Action: Commissioner Hanson moved, seconded by Commissioner
Vuksic to continue the request to allow the applicant to return with
revised plans for both commercial and residential elevations. Motion
carried 7-0.
4. CASE NO.: CUP 04-13
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS'): ROMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF SAN
BERNARDINO, 1201 E. Highland Avenue, San Bernardino, CA 92404
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT:, Request preliminary
approval of elevations forSacred 'Hearf" parish' hali/gymnasium and
expansion of school.
LOCATION: 43-775 Deep Canyon
ZONE: R-1
Action: Commissioner Oppenheim moved, seconded by Commissioner
Lambel for approval by minute motion. Motion carried 5-0-2-0 with
Commissioners Gregory and Hanson abstaining.
5. CASE NO.: TT 30438
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): DESTINATION DEVELOPMENT
CORPORATION, 74-100 Reserve Drive, Indian Wells, CA 92210
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT:, Preliminary approval
of elevations for the sales building, homes, maintenance facility, golf
cart storage building and gatehouse for the Stone Eagle.
LOCATION: 48-099 Highway 74
ZONE: HPR
Mr. Drell stated that the elevations are different from what the
commission previously reviewed. The architecture was sort of "organic"
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in style. Ted Lennon, applicant, was present to address the
commission. Their effort on the gatehouse was to mimic the
architecture of Sardinia, which has similar terrain as the hillside in Palm
Desert. The roof tile is different from their original plans. They tried to
used concrete tile and tumble it but it didn't look good so we went back
to the barrel tile with triple tiles in the front. They'll have a brown, earthy
look to blend into the mountainside to match the rocks. The
guardhouse will have an organic feel. Their idea was to create an
abobe-type of architecture and then squish it a little bit to give it some
unevenness in the shapes and thickness. The 2,000 square foot sales
office will be at the entrance and is a very low profile building that's built
against a rock mountain backdrop. The tones will be darker browns to
blend into the hillside. The windows will all be in thick, recessed walls
with trellised overhangs. The clubhouse has a lot of peeled logs inside
so there's lots of wood. The sales office will have an earthy plastered
finish to the building. There are three basic residential plans which
range in size from 2,600 square feet to 3,600 square feet. In the
original plan, they talked about doing some 900 square foot units but
they're not in the plan anymore. The homes are all freestanding,
patio/pool homes with an outdoor trellised living room. They sit on
anywhere from a quarter of an acre to an acre of land. The project is
basically hidden from Highway 74 and the lower desert area. They all
have entry courtyards with stone walls around them with outdoor
showers. We're approved for 60 residences, but we're building 44 units
at this time. The landscaping will be desert landscaping. The palette
for the residential neighborhood will be very similar to The Reserve with
almost 90% native vegetation. The biggest change to the architecture
is the change from the flat tile roof to the barrel tile roof. We think
we've come up with a very earthy type of architecture. Commissioner
Hanson asked about the price points on the homes. Mr. Lennon stated
that they're close to $600. per square foot.
Commissioner Gregory stated that the windows are recessed, the
colors are natural and there's a lot of sensitivity shown on all aspects of
designing this development. Commissioner Van Vliet asked about the
elevations for the maintenance building. Mr. Drell stated that they
probably want to defer the maintenance building because it's a metal
building. Commissioner Hanson stated that it would be nice to continue,
the feel of the gatehouse throughout the project so there's not such a
separation.
Mr. Lennon stated that the maintenance building will be hidden in a
valley. They don't want to see it when they enter the project. Mr.
Carver built his house in the canyon with a guesthouse so we now have
to landscape the maintenance building to screen it from his view to be
good neighbors to him. Janice Wood has a property up on the ridge
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and she may see the top edge of the building. The main problem is to
solve the problem with the Carver unit so we're doing some landscape
studies. Our goal is to come back to the City with a landscape and
berming plan that addresses these issues. If we can screen the
building, are we okay with doing a metal building with a brown rusted
roof with earthy finishes? Commissioner Van Vliet asked if you would
be able to see down valley. Mr. Lennon stated that you won't see it at
all because of the huge berms. Commissioner Van Vliet stated that if
it's screened and you can't see it, then it should be fine. Mr. Lennon
stated that they're a little bit behind and they're just starting construction
of the bridge. We start grading next week on the lower area. We've
rough graded all but one hole on the top. We've sanded about 7-8
greens on top. The golf course architect is Tom Doke who is the
hottest, young, new architect in the business. He's been designing golf
courses for twenty years and designed Bandon Dunes, which is ranked
in the top twenty golf courses in the world. He and his staff will do a lot
of the shaping of the course themselves.
Action: Commissioner Hanson moved, seconded by Commissioner
Van Vliet for preliminary approval. Motion carried 7-0.
6. CASE NO.: MISC 04-48
APPLICANT (AND ADDRESS): SUZANNE LOPEZ, 3257 Primera
Avenue, Los Angeles, CA 90068
NATURE OF PROJECT/APPROVAL SOUGHT: Request approval to
construct an attached garage, entry vestibule' and 7' 'high front yard wall
6' from curb face at a single-family residence.
LOCATION: 45-807 Portola Avenue
ZONE: R-1
Howard Peterson, architect, was present to address the commission. A
picture of the north elevation and a site plan was passed around to the
commissioners for them to review. The City has widened the street
adjacent to this home, which cut off some of the front yard. What Ms.
Lopez is trying to do is create a buffer between the street and the
house and get some privacy, a better looking house and provide a
sound barrier between the street and the house. To do that, it infringes
on the existing setback. A new location for the wall is being proposed
at 5' on the outside of the wall with the entryway at the original location
of the original retaining wall. We're looking at this as a work session.
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Vill.
SUMMARY OF COUNCIL ACTION
MARCH 15, 2005
Mr. Drell and Mr. Smith summarized pertinent March 10, 2005 City
Council actions.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None.
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Case No. PMW 03-17 - MICHAEL FEDDERLY, FEDDERLY &
ASSOCIATES, Applicant
Request for approval of a parcel map waiver to merge Lots
13 and 14 of Tract 25296-5 within Bighorn.
Action:
It was moved by Commissioner Campbell, seconded by Commissioner
Finerty, approving the Consent Calendar by minute motion. Motion
carried 5-0.
on*
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Anyone who challenges any hearing matter in court may be limited to
raising only those issues he, she or someone else raised at the public
hearing described herein, or in written correspondence delivered to the
Planning Commission at, or prior to, the public hearing.
A. Case No. TT 30438 Amendment No. 2 - DESTINATION
DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, Applicant
Request for approval of Amendment No. 2 to the approved
tentative map to adjust the approved pad elevations in the area
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west of the storm channel opposite the Somerset community.
APN's 652-020-001 & 002, 652-070-002 thru 010.
Commissioner Jonathan advised the Commission that he would be
abstaining from discussion and voting on this matter and left the room.
Mr. Smith indicated that in October of 2002 City Council approved The Crest
project, which is now known as Stone Eagle. That included a tentative tract
map for 44 single family lots amongst other items, including the golf course
and clubhouse, etc. That approved map had certain pad elevations shown
on it. August 17, 2004 the Planning Commission approved Amendment No.
1 to the tentative map which adjusted several lot lines while retaining the
total lot count at 44 lots/units and adjusted the approved pad elevations.
Generally, the lots at the northwest corner of the map were lowered by up to
15 feet, while the lots in the southeast area were raised three to five feet.
The six lots at the south end were lowered one to two feet at that time.
The Planning Commission was now being requested to once again alter the
pad elevations. They were not being requested to add or delete lots, they
were being asked to approve new pad elevations.
In the northerly area, Lots 1 through 10, this area originally had four lots
which were set above natural grade. In the August 2004 action, they lowered
the area two to 15 feet. That put all ten lots below natural grade in that area.
At this point they were requesting to raise these lots two to three and half
feet. All these lots would continue to be at or below natural grade.
Lots 11 to 20 to the south side of the proposed lake, in the August 2004
action Planning Commission raised these pads to the point where eight lots
would be above natural grade. All of these lots would now be above natural
grade. The reason for increasing the grade in that area was due to the height
of the lake. They had a section on the lake which confirmed the necessity of
raising these lots in that the lake would drain through a spillway under the
road and then eventually make its way into the channel. So that became the
basic height necessary in that area.
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Lots 21 through 27 were also being raised an additional one and a half to
two feet. This was necessary to make these lots consistent with the previous
northerly lots where they back onto them.
Lots 28, 29 and 30, these three were originally below natural grade. Then
they were lowered another three to four feet. Now they were requesting to
raise them three feet. So they were basically back to where they began with
those three.
Lots 31 through 34, they've always been above natural grade and they would
remain so on the new map.
Lots 35 through 37 were raised in the August 2004 amendment. And they
were proposed to be raised again, but they would still remain at or below
natural grade.
Lots 38 through 44 at the southerly end of the project were lowered on, the
August 2004 map and they remain unchanged at this point.
In the area of the maintenance building that was originally shown at 629 in
the August 2004 action, the applicant was requesting to raise that area two
feet to 631. At the same point, they were looking at reducing the height of the
southeast corner of that area to 621. Natural grade in this area ranged from
635 at the west end to 610 at the east end.
Mr. Smith said staff had contact from two property owners. Janice Wood to
the north of the maintenance facility, and the Carvers located to the
northwest of the maintenance facility. They expressed concern with the
visual impacts. The Commission received letters which were passed out
today from both parties.
The clubhouse pad remained unchanged, and it was unchanged with the
August action. The applicant provided staff with a detailed analysis and letter
supporting the requested changes. Basically, it stemmed from their further
defining the lake construction and its ultimate level. Then proceeding from
there and finding that they were getting less shrinkage or more shrinkage in
certain areas and in order to balance the site they need to make the
adjustments they were requesting this evening.
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In the area of the maintenance facility, he said the applicant advised that the
increase was necessary to provide adequate flood protection in this area.
When the matter of the maintenance facility went through Architectural
Review Commission back in December, that commission had significant
concerns relative to the visual impact there and the applicant committed to
ARC that they would significantly screen it. As of today, staff received a
photo "sim" of a photo taken from the Carver property to the northwest
looking southeast toward the area of the maintenance facility and basically
showing that it could be accomplished. What he meant by "can," through a
system of berms, landscaping and appropriate design they could make the
maintenance facility all but disappear. And now it was a matter of them
coming up with a plan to implement this photo sim.
Staff recommended that Planning Commission approve the request, subject
to all the conditions that were imposed previously, plus, that once the matter
has been recommended for approval by ARC, that they return with the
matter here so the Planning Commission could also have the opportunity to
see the design solution that implements this level of screening. He asked for
any questions.
Commissioner Lopez asked for staff to point out the location of the
clubhouse on the map. Mr. Smith did so. Mr. Drell explained that in essence
they would be using the back end of the buildings to screen the yard. They
would have to make the back end of the building more like a decorative wall
and then landscape it and berm it. They hadn't really seen how exactly in
detail this would work. This was going to be one of those situations where
ultimately they wouldn't be done until staff says they're done. It would be in
the execution, so the basic standard of the review is this maintenance yard
would have to meet the same sort of standard as if it was a house and they
knew the sort of scrutiny houses in the hillside were given.
Referring to the photograph, Commissioner Lopez asked what was in front
of it. Mr. Drell said it was a cut. That cut is going down into the creek and it
would have to be renaturalized with rock and, plant material. In the letter, the
property owner on the other side of the bank was requesting that her side get
the same level of treatment in case there is a flood that her side is just as
protected as the applicant's side. Throughout the whole project, every cut
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that looks like that had to be restored to a natural appearance with rock and
landscaping.
Chairperson Tschopp noted that staff provided a Table A, and if he was
reading it right, the far right-hand column was basically from the natural
grade and what they were looking at tonight was the difference that would
entail from the August 2004 subtotal, so in actuality some of them were
showing an 11-foot increase and tonight they were actually discussing a two -
foot increase from the already previously approved grade. Mr. Smith said
that was correct. They would have to do the math for the one column where
they would compare the August with the January.
There were no other questions. Chairperson Tschopp opened the public
hearing and asked the applicant to address the Commission.
MR. BILL MUNSON, 5 Como Circle in Palm Desert, addressed the
Commission. He stated that Mr. Smith did an excellent job of
explaining. He thought the table told the story. There were a lot of
numbers and it took some time to study it, but basically what they
were requesting with this revision was a very minor change from what
was previously approved. Again, the controlling factor on these lot
raises stemmed from a flood control issue. He pointed out Bruce
Creek going through the project and said the water level from a major
event or design event dictates the elevation of these lots along the
channel. Once those lot grades were established to be protected from
flood control, the next issue was the relationship between these lots
and the next lots going up the hill. After that, again, the lots on the
crest of the hill. So it was kind of a step by step process to establish
grades.
The highest lots on the project in all cases involved considerable cut
from where they are naturally. They weren't raising any lots. The
raised lots were dictated by the flood control and he pointed out the
area. Also, another point that was made was the balancing of the site
not to import or export any dirt and try and make the site work within
itself. Where all the cut makes the fill and all the fill comes from the
cut. So there was no dirt moved through the city other than within the
limits of the site.
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He said Mr. Smith also addressed the maintenance building. What
they had done to mitigate some of the issues here was they increased
the setback from their property line an additional 25 feet. That allowed
them to build some berms. He pointed out the location. The berm at
one end was 645. Where the highest point of the building is 647.6;
they were two and a half feet above the berm on this corner. He
pointed out the location of the Carver residence looking down.
They moved the building over, took the material bins and relocated
them to a lower grade ten feet below, down at 621 versus 631. That
allowed them to provide more of a screen. In another area they
established a berm to screen the neighbor in that region, again,
planting trees on top of the berm, so anyone looking down from that
area would see, filtered through trees and shrubs, an outline of the
building possibly. But they wouldn't see the yard in front. The material
yard is lowered. They felt they would not be able to see it in any way,
shape or form down there.
They dealt with these issues and tried to mitigate them. They had
other projects in the city with similar issues and when all was said and
done, the residents were happy and the people were happy. So they
don't ignore them, they try to deal with them and take care of any
issues. He said they have a project that is built into the hills and it is
a different animal. They've learned a lot. It has been very difficult and
they weren't dealing with two dimensions, they were dealing with
three dimensions. It was a tremendous issue to try and resolve all of
this. They've been through numerous grading plans trying to get the
site to be balanced so they weren't bringing dirt in or out and were
dealing just within the site. They finally arrived at something.
In their submittal of August 2004 they were very close, but because
of flood control, they had. to revise it in small quantity. Basically, if they
took an average of the changes, it was about a foot and a half per lot
for the entire site, or 18 inches that they were requesting so they are
balanced. They thought their architecture from the day they
approached the city blends into the hillside. They made efforts to
make that happen. They felt it was very good looking and would be
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a beautiful project and everyone around it would be happy because
what they see would be very pleasant.
Chairperson Tschopp asked if he had looked at the conditions and agreed
with staff's conditions.
Mr. Munson said yes. They knew what they were showing the
Commission tonight was a representation. They had to deal with Mr.
Drell and the City and make everyone happy when all was said and
done and that was their intent. They would do that.
Chairperson Tschopp asked if anyone wished to speak in FAVOR or
OPPOSITION. He noted that he had one Request to Speak Card from Mr.
LaTourette and invited him to address the Commission.
MR. PETER LA TOURETTE, 72-445 Desert Flower Drive, which he
said was in Somerset, the adjacent property. He said they mainly just
had some clarification and comments more than anything else.
Originally when they were with Mr. Lennon and his people, they stood
on one of their balconies across from where the houses were going
and they told them at that time it was going to look like Sardinia or
Tuscany and everything would be in the natural terrain and they
wouldn't see it. That wasn't going to happen, but they didn't have a
big problem with that. But what they were concerned with now, since
they were going to see all these houses front and back in some
cases, that there is sufficient amount of landscaping to hide and cover
that because he said he would do, that if they had visual sight of the
houses themselves.
And the other thing they were concerned about is they still plan on the
parking lot like they have in The Reserve to use a low level bollard
type lighting and also heavily landscaped there again so they don't
see massive asphalt in the parking lot. So those were their basic
concerns. These were things they discussed with Mr. Lennon before.
The lots changed somewhat and they understood the reasons for
that, but they also wanted to make sure these other things were
followed through on. He didn't think the maintenance building affected
them, it was on the other side of the hill.
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Mr. Smith said that was right.
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MRS. ANTOINETTE CARVER, 72-955 Deergrass Drive, informed
Commission that her properties were at 72-275 and 72-240 Upper
Way West. She had major concerns because the proposed
maintenance yard sits in her front yard. The photograph that was put
up on the screen was not the view they see from their home, it was
the view they see from a portion of their driveway and it was far more
disturbing if they were to look at it from their two properties, from right
up in the compound of the property.
She didn't know exactly what the solution was to this, but she cringed
to think they might elevate the pads even higher. She did like what
they had done with moving the bins because they thought those were
going to be at the back of the property and felt that was positive, but
they decimated Ramon Creek. It was, truly a heart break. She was so
disturbed over this. They worked so hard to comply with all of the
requirements from the Department of Fish and Game where they
didn't harm in any way a blue line creek. They spent considerable
amount of time and money and care in developing their property so
that it was aesthetically pleasing to everyone that looked at it and
would only serve to enhance the property values of the people around
them.
She knew in many respects that the Stone Eagle development would
be an enhancement, but she had difficulty with the fact that the
maintenance yard was placed in their view shed rather than over with
the people in Stone Eagle where she thought it should be
appropriately placed. Mr. Lennon told them that he was going to have
an aerial shot done of the project and that he would superimpose
drawings of the buildings on it for their perusal and they had not seen
that. But she just wanted to let Commission know that they have very
strong feelings of opposition toward this and any help they could have
to make this less disruptive as possible would be deeply appreciated.
Mrs. Carver said the number of casitas seemed to have increased
since they were first told about the project and they were wondering
how many casitas would actually be requested by the time the project
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was completed or perhaps they might come back and submit again
to add even more to try and support the course. That's a concern to
them. The other thing they were concerned about is there seems to
be a very steep grade leading up to the property. That being the case,
she was wondering if when they have full loads of material, if these
golf carts that were supposed to be used since no vehicles were
allowed on the property, if these golf carts were used, if they would
have to be the noisier, gas powered variety or if they would all be
electric carts. She said that summed up her comments.
Chairperson Tschopp asked if the applicant wished to readdress the
Commission.
Mr. Munson came forward. To address Mr. LaTourette's comments,
he would address the parking lot and the low level lighting. He
pointed out the parking lot and said they intend to build a combination
of berms, landscape screen walls, and fences the length of the
project. They could see the berming in the area where they have
room to do it. In the areas where they didn't have as much room they
used walls, trees, screened fences, etc. This parking was
considerably lower than the clubhouse site. The nearby grade was
650 and the parking lot stepped down. He showed where the grade
was 612 and said it was 37.5 feet lower than the pad of the clubhouse
itself, so the lot does step down and they felt it would be well hidden.
As far as lighting in that area, they probably wouldn't use any high
lights or standard lights, but something more like landscaping lighting.
They don't expect a lot of night activity, but they would need enough
light for safety, but it wouldn't be a brightly lit parking lot.
Mr. Drell asked if they would be using concrete pavers like the Bighorn
parking lot.
Mr. Munson said that hadn't been determined, but they intend to use
pavers of that sort in certain areas of the project. He didn't know if it
would be in the parking lot necessarily, but again, he didn't think the
parking lot would be seen from Somerset mainly because of the
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screen, number one. And also the fact that the grades were
considerably lower.
He noted that Mr. LaTourette also mentioned hiding the homes. The
grades were shown for the home sites and he thought their homes
were beautiful and their theme was the Sardinia Esmeralda Coast. He
had some architecture if they wanted to see the homes and had
elevations and colors that they viewed. He said that the colors would
blend into the hillsides, noting that there were numerous browns out
there. They could see the multicolored roof tile, again blending into
the hillside. The eaves, he said it was difficult to see, but they were
curved and a different style of architecture. Basically, there were no
flat roofs, they pop up and down blending into the hillside. He showed
the product for the north ridge, the highest up on the hill which would
be most seen. Then he showed the product for the lots along the
perimeter of the lake. There were screens over the windows, little
trellises. All of that was tailored from the architecture on the
Esmeralda Coast in Sardinia. He believed that addressed Mr.
LaTourette's concerns. (Mr. LaTourette spoke from the audience and
said he had no problem with that.)
Regarding the number of casitas, they were still at 44 lots and they
had been at that number since he could remember. The steep grade
going up to the golf course, yes, there was a steep grade but the cart
path that goes up was down rather low. He showed the path that led
up to the golf course. From their clubhouse to the top was about
3,000 feet, so it was better than a half a mile. Going up the cart path,
it was down in a very low area. There was a ridge between it and Mrs.
Carver and he doubted they would see anyone there. As far as the
maintenance vehicles that would go up the cart path, gas carts are
noisier than electric, there was no question about it. But with modern
technology, the gas carts don't make much noise and were not
anything like they used to be. There would be a combination of
vehicles used, some gas, some electrical which was typical for
maintenance of any golf course. He didn't think it would be an issue
where they would be super noisy.
Mr. Drell asked what the golfers would be using.
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Mr. Munson said the golfers would be using electric carts and they
won't make any noise at all. And they would be the majority of the
traffic. The maintenance workers would go up and down in a day's
time. They also have some bunkers on top to house some of the golf
course equipment so it doesn't come up and down, but stays on the
course. The equipment that can stay up there will, and the equipment
that needs maintenance comes down. He said they were trying to
address the issues and knew Mrs. Carver had some concerns and he
thought they would address them and make those concerns go away
when it was all said and done.
Mr. Drell said it was his understanding that they would be restoring the creek
to a natural appearance.
Action:
Mr. Munson said yes, they worked with Fish and Game, Fish and
Wildlife and the Army Corps. of Engineers and got all of their
appropriate permits and showed them where they were going to do
impacts and mitigated those impacts. They have rules and regulations
to follow to put them back and they weren't finished yet, they were in
progress.
Chairperson Tschopp closed the public hearing and asked for Commission
comments.
Commissioner Finerty said it appeared that the applicant had worked very
hard to mitigate all of the concerns, and from previous experience with the
applicant, they've never had any problem and they have been more than
willing and they've been good on their word to address any issues that come
up. She moved for approval.
Commissioner Lopez concurred. He also believed that this is a project still
in the works with a long way to go on it and there were a lot of
opportunities to review and inspect the area as it pertains to the
maintenance shack and all of the berming and landscaping that would
occur all around this particular location. It is still a work in progress. The
elevation changes average between 12 and 18 inches or two feet wasn't
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unusual in this kind of situation, so he concurred and seconded the
motion.
Commissioner Campbell said the problem here is the maintenance
building which hasn't been approved by ARC and it would also come
back to Planning Commission for review and comment. It seemed like
everything else going on in the project is done very diligently and they
have never had any problem with Mr. Lennon before. Since the problem
was the maintenance building, which would be coming back to them, she
was in favor of this approval.
Chairperson Tschopp concurred. He thought the applicant was working
diligently with the neighbors and the City trying to minimize the impact
it would have on the area. He thought they would end up with a very
beautiful golf course development. He noted there was a motion and
second on the table and asked for any other discussion or comments,
then called for the vote. Motion carried 4-0.
It was moved by Commissioner Finerty, seconded by Commissioner
Lopez, adopting Planning Commission Resolution No. 2327, approving TT
30438 Amendment No. 2, subject to conditions. Motion carried 4-0.
COMMISSIONER JONATHAN REJOINED THE MEETING AT THIS POINT (6:40 p.m.).
IX. MISCELLANEOUS
A. Status Report and Discussion of Condition Compliance for Case
No. CUP 03-17
Action:
None.
Commissioner Finerty said Mr. Bagato gave her the minutes which
she needed to review. She would be calling him back. Mr. Drell
said the applicant was agreeing to add more landscaping and
agreed he was deficient. So it was in progress and he agreed to
mitigate the problem and staff was monitoring it.
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