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PALM DESERT MARKETING COMMITTEE MEETING
TUESDAY, APRIL 19, 2005 - 2:00 P.M.
ADMINISTRATIVE CONFERENCE ROOM
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Norine Bowen called the meeting to order at 2:00 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Member Absent:
Emily Bird, Co -Chair Michael Shimer
Norine Bowen, Chair
Rick Darius
Ric Mandelbaum
Sara O'Flynn
Ray Rodriguez
Staff/Others Present:
Jean Benson, Councilmember
Robert Spiegel, Councilmember
Sheila Gilligan, Assistant City Manager
Kristy Kneiding, Marketing Manager
Donna Gomez, Visitor Center Manager
Mike Osgood, Desert Willow
Gary Sherwin, CVA
Lori Wimbish, Recording Secretary
III. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Kristy Kneiding introduced new member Sara O'Flynn, Marketing Director at The
Gardens on El Paseo.
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IV. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF MARCH 15, 2005.
Mr. Mandelbaum moved to, by Minute Motion, approve the minutes of the
January 18, 2005, with changes to reflect that Graeme Baxter limited edition prints retail
for $240 and the open edition prints retail for $55. Motion was seconded by Mr. Darius
and carried by unanimous vote.
V. NEW BUSINESS
A. ADVERTISING COORDINATOR PRESENTATIONS
ROLF HOEHN, Marketing Solutions Group, addressed the Committee.
He gave a presentation to the Committee regarding his experience and
credentials.
Councilmember Spiegel was impressed with Aero Mexico's ad campaign,
and asked Mr. Hoehn if it was successful. Mr. Hoehn said it was
important to create a position wherein the reaction from the public was
positive. To that end, they had received a lot of positive feedback from the
public. He said they also did post testing to verify the success of the ad
campaign.
Mr. Mandelbaum was also impressed with the Aero Mexico campaign and
asked Mr. Hoehn how he energized personnel to get them involved. Mr.
Hoehn said they held internal and quality daily work programs for the
employees. He added that the airline had, for the past 10 years, an
excellent on -time performance record. He said the employees were proud
that they were contributing to that record.
Upon question by Mr. Rodriguez, Mr. Hoehn said the Golf Experience was
a small business development company. He said the company wanted to
expand its business and was interested in developing programs to Mexico.
He added that he was developing golf programs to Cabo San Lucas,
which would be sold and marketed directly to Golf Experience's client
base.
Upon question by Mr. Darius, Mr. Hoehn responded that he was the only
employee of Marketing Solutions Group.
CATHY TEAL, of Firebrand Design Inc., addressed the Committee. She
stated that she had over 20 years of experience in advertising, design,
marketing, communications, managing creative teams, vendors, and
clients. She said she had worked for the City of Santa Monica since 1987
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and was still employed by them. She had also worked with the City of
Anaheim, the City of Pasadena, the City of Los Angeles, and the MTA.
She added that she had also worked for the City of Hollywood on its
"Discover Hollywood" and "Hollywood Festival" campaigns, which was a
destination marketing communications plan. She also spoke to the work
she performed for the Harvey Milliken Foundation.
Ms. Kneiding inquired about the kind of projects Ms. Teal had done for
other cities. Ms. Teal said for the City of Santa Monica she had done
everything from t-shirts to increasing the ridership on the Big Blue Bus.
She was also involved in the campaign to help persuade residents to be
more conscientious with their water usage, and she worked on
private/public sector partnership events coordinated by the City, as well as
events by the Third Street Promenade Merchants Association.
Mr. Mandelbaum asked Ms. Teal if she had experience with budgeting a
plan at the beginning of a fiscal year and then executing that plan within
that budget. Ms. Teal responded that the City of Santa Monica worked
differently in that they did not have a centralized control center. She said
she performed work for the Environmental Programs Division and the
Utilities Division. Those two divisions had budgets for the projects that
they wanted completed.
Mr. Mandelbaum asked who had hired her from those departments. She
said sometimes she responded to an RFQ, and other times she pitched
creatively for the projects.
Upon question by Ms. Bowen, Ms. Teal responded that the first thing she
would do to familiarize herself with a new client would be to review the
previous ad campaign and figure out what hadn't worked in the past. She
would also ask the client what they wanted to achieve in the future.
Upon question by Councilmember Spiegel, Ms. Teal stated that she and
her husband purchased a home here in 1995 and moved here
permanently in 2002. She added that they previously lived in Tucson,
Arizona.
Upon question by Mr. Rodriguez, Ms. Teal said she and her husband
preferred the Coachella Valley to Scottsdale because it was still small.
Mr. Rodriquez inquired about how Ms. Teal viewed the area, and what she
felt was interesting and unique or worth presenting to the world. Ms. Teal
stated that every area was different, but she felt it was real clear that the
quality of life here was so much better than that in Los Angeles or San
Diego.
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Upon question by Ms. Bowen, Ms. Teal responded that she was involved
in the budget process for the Environmental Programs Division at the City
of Santa Monica and for her private sector clients as well. She added that
she would regularly create full marketing plans for her private clients.
Upon question by Ms. Kneiding, Ms. Teal said that she had experience
with media buys and was familiar with the local and national newspapers.
Upon question by Councilmember Benson, Ms. Teal responded that the
20 hours listed on her proposal were collective hours. She added that she
could act as the City's agent, or she could act as the City's agency.
Ms. Gilligan asked Ms. Teal if she was familiar with the City's existing ad
campaign. Ms. Teal said she unfortunately was not.
Ms. Bowen asked if Ms. Teal had looked at the City's website and, if so,
what stood out for her the most. Ms. Teal responded that she had seen
the City's website and thought it was one of the better of the Valley cities.
She thought it had a great deal of information and was concise and fast.
Upon question by Mr. Mandelbaum, Ms. Teal said that she was aware of
the growth in the Coachella Valley. She felt the City had a very important
role to play in terms of keeping up the infrastructure, developing
campaigns to inform the residents about water conservation, and
protecting the environment. She felt development should be planned,
thoughtful, and in keeping with planned growth.
Upon question by Ms. Kneiding, Ms. Teal said she was a designer and did
her own production work as well. She added that she worked with two
freelancers on a full time basis.
Upon question by Councilmember Spiegel, Ms. Teal said she was familiar
with several key events that the City had throughout the year.
Councilmember Spiegel asked Ms. Teal what she believed she could
bring to the City of Palm Desert. Ms. Teal responded that she had 20
years of destination and event marketing experience and could contribute
a great deal. She added that she had invaluable experience with public
and private partnerships, building events, working with advertisers, and
working with cities to make sure that all parties get what they need out of
the process.
Ms. Teal distributed some examples of her work to the Committee
members.
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Discussion:
Ms. Bowen said Ms. Teal did not exhibit any chemistry, passion, or energy
for the position of Advertising Coordinator for the City. She felt that the
fact that Ms. Teal was not familiar with the City's current ad campaign was
contrary to her comments about contacting Ms. Kneiding for the past two
years. Also, the fact that Santa Monica was dropping her to go with local
vendors concerned her as well. She also felt that Ms. Teal was having
difficulty explaining her fees.
Ms. Bird felt that Ms. Teal's creativity was a step down from the City's
current standards.
Mr. Mandelbaum commented that Mr. Hoehn was very prepared and that
he reviewed all of the Marketing Committee meeting minutes prior to his
presentation. He said Mr. Hoehn had a lot of qualities that he liked and
spoke to instrumental concerns, like the infrastructure, and covered all the
main selling points of Palm Desert. He thought Mr. Hoehn's presentation
was interesting and believed that they were getting a good cross
representation of what was available out in the market.
FRANK FURINO and STEPHANIE GREENE, Creative I Group,
introduced themselves to the Committee. Ms. Greene described their
marketing firm and elaborated on their client list and the body of work they
were currently performing for those clients; i.e., radio, television, billboard
projects, and special events coordination. She stated that they were
public relations experts, and that was something they would bring to the
table, as well as other skills. Ms. Greene complimented the City on its
current marketing campaign.
Mr. Furino said one of the nice things about their client base was that they
were all Palm Desert oriented. They were fortunate enough to be with the
McCallum Theatre during its growth, and they felt privileged to be able to
work with them. They had taken El Paseo and kept it in the forefront of
the retail business industry. They loved working with and for the City, and
if there were something they could bring to the party, over and above the
incredible job that Ms. Close had done, they would be thrilled to be a part
of that.
Upon question by Councilmember Benson, Mr. Furino responded that he
and Ms. Greene believed that working with the El Paseo Business
Improvement District would be complimentary to working with the City of
Palm Desert. In fact, they felt that it would be advantageous to provide
marketing for both entities. Ms. Greene added that the City of Palm
Desert account would be further reaching, wherein El Paseo does not
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leave the Valley. Councilmember Benson inquired about how the El
Paseo Business Improvement District would feel about their working with
the City of Palm Desert. Ms. Greene responded that she and Mr. Furino
spoke with the Board about the prospect of their working for the City, and
the Board was unanimously in favor.
Upon question by Councilmember Spiegel, Mr. Furino said that the City of
Palm Desert was unique in what it had to offer, especially in goods and
services. Certainly the growth here was phenomenal, and he was waiting
for the growth to peak, but it does not look like it would anytime soon. Ms.
Greene said what was really important for the City of Palm Desert, and the
future, was to leverage what the City had done into bigger and better
things. She said her first job in the Valley was working with Sonny Bono
on the P.S. I Love You campaign, which put Palm Springs on the map.
She said that was the kind of deal they could bring to the table.
Mr. Mandelbaum asked if they felt the City of Palm Desert should be
playing a bigger role in going outside the box to promote Palm Desert.
Ms. Greene said absolutely. She said Palm Desert had everything a city
needed to be a destination location; i.e., hotels, golf, restaurants, dining,
and entertainment. She said every advertising dollar should work
extremely hard. Mr. Furino added that the marketing should be designed
to bring in the right kind of visitor.
Upon question by Councilmember Spiegel, Ms. Greene responded that
they do not represent Spotlight 29.
Upon question by Mr. Mandelbaum, Ms. Greene said the reason their
client list was so selective was because when you hire Creative I Group,
you get Mr. Furino and Ms. Greene. All of their clients have access to
them. Ms. Greene gave a brief overview of the Creative I Group's staff.
Mr. Rodriguez inquired as to what impressed them the most about the
City's current ad campaign. Ms. Greene said the coffee table book was
absolutely stunning and a stroke of genius. The Palm Desert Rocks
campaign was an excellent way to execute the multi -dimension of Palm
Desert. Mr. Furino added that from a creative perspective, he loved the
Palm Desert Rocks campaign.
Upon question by Ms. Kneiding, Ms. Greene said their retainers do not
include a set hourly limit or a commission structure. Whatever it takes to
get the job complete, they would do. She added that the $6,000 per
month fee listed on their proposal would guarantee the City 60 hours per
month.
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Ms. Bowen said she was the only one in the room who had not had the
pleasure of meeting them. She congratulated them on their wonderful
presentation.
Discussion:
Mr. Mandelbaum commented that with Creative I Group they would get a
team and with Full Gallop Marketing they get total commitment and
loyalty, plus Ms. Close had done a very good job for five years. He said
Mr. Hoehn had a very good thought process. If he could reinvent the
wheel, Ms. Close would join Creative I Group, and they would have
everything. He felt the one thing that Creative I Group could bring was a
world of experience, and it would be nice to have that. He added that he
had known Ms. Greene fairly well and worked with her for about four
years. He added that she was probably one of the most dedicated and
committed people you would ever meet.
Ms. Bowen said she thought of that as well, joining forces. She said it
would take Ms. Close's career to a new level and move Creative I Group
to new heights.
Ms. Kneiding said she liked the fact that Creative I Group complimented
Ms. Close on doing a good job. She respected them for acknowledging
the progression the City has had in its ad campaign.
Ms. Gilligan commented that everyone who submitted a proposal had the
same opportunity to go to City Hall and get information, including the
City's budget. She said Mr. Hoehn was the only one who requested all of
that information.
Mr. Darius stated that he enjoyed working with Creative I Group at the
McCallum Theatre. He said their experiences and strengths complement
each other. However, he did feel as though they rarely showed initiative
when it came to gathering information for projects.
Ms. Gilligan said that working with an advertising agency was quite
different from working with an individual. She said an agency would come
with more experience and expertise; however, they were always looking at
the net billings because ad agencies make a lot of money off of their ads
and buys. She was very impressed with Creative I Group, and with what
they had accomplished with El Paseo.
PIPER CLOSE, Full Gallop Marketing, addressed the Committee. Ms.
Close gave a presentation on the projects and campaigns that she had
created for the City during the past five years. She further spoke about
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the process of creating a logo, a website, branding the City, and the Table
Top book, which won a distinction at the local Addy Awards. The book
went on to the district level and won a Silver Addy. She added that
awards were nice, and it was nice to be recognized for the work that you
had done, but it by no means measured what was good, what produced
results. She also spoke about the virtual tour that she was currently
working on, which was her way of taking the Table Top book and turning it
into a video that would be included in the new vacation planner.
Ms. Close also reviewed the projects that she had been involved with for
the following departments: Business Support; Art in Public Places; Visitor
Information Center; Community Services (Recycle); Public Works
(Landscape); and the Sister Cities Committee. She said she had been
with Desert Willow since its inception. She was its first Marketing Director
and was involved with the image creation of Desert Willow. She enjoyed
being able to return to Desert Willow through the City.
Ms. Close concluded that she was pleased and proud to have been a part
of the marketing of the City of Palm Desert for the past five years. She
would very much like to remain as the City of Palm Desert's Advertising
Coordinator.
Mr. Mandelbaum asked Ms. Close how she saw the City keeping up with
the projected changes over the next five years. Ms. Close said she
maintains a production job schedule that she starts at the beginning of
every fiscal year. She said she could not have better support than she
has had with staff. Ms. Kneiding and Donna Gomez were the best at
being there, looking at things, turning things around, getting them back to
her, and giving her good input for what would and wouldn't work. It had
been, in her estimation, a fabulous team effort.
Councilmember Spiegel commented that UCR would be opening in the
fall. He asked Ms. Close how the City could help the University and vice
versa. Ms. Close responded that she felt the University was probably the
single most important thing that would be happening in the City and would
impact every industry, including food & beverage, hospitality, and
demographics. She did not know if she had one answer, but it was
certainly something she had given some thought to.
Councilmember Spiegel commented that all areas of the City were doing
very well, and he was pleased with the results of the City's advertising and
marketing programs.
Upon question by Ms. Kneiding, Ms. Close said that she could not give a
specific number of hours that she spent working on projects for the City.
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She said she thinks about her work all of the time. She added that she
tried to keep track when she first started but did not continue doing that.
Discussion:
Ms. Bird commented that the presentations were interesting, and each
person had his/her own unique style. Ms. Close had been doing a great
job. She was a little concerned that she did not talk about the future, but
she really did believe that Ms. Close had taken the City to a new level and
would continue on that journey. Her decision would be to stay with Ms.
Close.
Mr. Mandelbaum said the City was getting an exceptionally good value
with Ms. Close as well as exceptional quality. He said she always stepped
up to the plate and continues to produce quality work.
Ms. O'Flynn commented that Mr. Hoehn's background and presentation
were very corporate, and Mr. Furino and Ms. Greene brought their
knowledge of the City; however, Ms. Close blew her away. She had
nothing to go on except for a few preliminary materials, but the energy that
Ms. Close brought into the presentation was phenomenal, and she also
did not rest on her laurels. Ms. O'Flynn continued to say that between the
four, because she didn't rest on her laurels, and she had such a great
background, and she understands the City so well, she would recommend
retaining Ms. Close.
Mr. Darius said the presentations covered every spectrum. He said Mr.
Hoehn was corporate, and although he enjoyed working with Creative I
Group at the McCallum, he believed Ms. Close was really the best person
for the job.
Mr. Rodriguez said the work speaks for itself, Ms. Close's reputation
speaks for itself, and he felt that Ms. Close represented the City in a
dignified and professional manner, which was called for by a city like Palm
Desert. He was an enthusiastic supporter.
Ms. Bowen commented, " if its not broken, don't fix it." Ms. Close had
been supporting the City heavily for the past five years, and Ms. Bowen
believed that Ms. Close would continue to work very hard for the City.
She thought Ms. Close was a class act and had passion for the City and
her work. She liked the fact that Ms. Close recognized her team as being
the staff at the City of Palm Desert. She continued to say that Ms. Close
worked with a lot of other departments in the City and spoke well of that
experience. She said Ms. Close did not take anything for granted and
presented herself and her work as if she may not have the contract next
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year. She concluded by saying that Ms. Close had been doing this work
for 21 years, was connected to Palm Desert, and believed that some good
things were coming.
Mr. Rodriquez moved to, by Minute Motion, recommend to City Council the
retention of Piper Close, Full Gallop Marketing, and accept the increased fee schedule
as proposed. Motion was seconded by Mr. Mandelbaum and carried by unanimous
vote.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
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VII. REPORT ON CITY COUNCIL ACTION (S)
Ms. Gilligan reported that the City Council approved travel for three
members of staff, plus one member of the Marketing Committee, to travel
to Aspen, Colorado, on June 10th to research its food & wine festival.
Councilmember Spiegel mentioned that the concert at The Gardens on El
Paseo benefited the City of Palm Desert `s After School Program. He said
there were over 300 people, which was the largest attendance, to date.
Palm Desert Middle School and Lincoln Elementary will receive the $3,000
raised for the Palm Desert After School Program.
VIII. REPORTS AND REMARKS
A. Chair
Chairwoman Bowen announced that she attended the ribbon cutting for
the UCR Palm Desert Campus on Friday, April 15th, and was proud to be
a part of such a wonderful city wherein the City Council was supportive of
the future of education in the Valley.
Councilmember Benson said she was proud that UCR recognized the
City, and they were very gracious in all of their comments. She added that
the event was very nice.
Chairwoman Bowen reported that Westfield had its national conference in
San Diego, April 4 — 7, 2005. She said the decision was made to drop the
word "Shoppingtown" from its name, and it would now be known as
"Westfield Palm Desert."
Chairwoman Bowen extended her best wishes to Ric Mandelbaum, as he
will be going through some challenges in the next few months.
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B. Committee Members
Ms. Bird reported that Tammy Perezchica, Director of Resort Activities,
implemented the idea of visiting well-known wine festivals throughout the
nation; i.e., Aspen, Colorado; Sonoma, California; and Naples, Florida. A
group of individuals would research the possibility of putting together an
art & wine festival in Palm Desert. The Marriott would be the host property
for the festival, but it would incorporate the entire city. She said the
Marriott was very excited about the prospect of the event and was
completely on board.
Ms. Gilligan said when the Marriott came forward with the idea of an art &
wine festival, the City decided that it was worth the expenditure to
determine what its involvement should, could, or would be. The City
would be sending Kristy Kneiding, Marketing Manager, Pat Scully, Special
Events Coordinator, Deborah Schwartz, Public Arts Coordinator, and
Michael Shimer from this Committee. She said the Marriott expanded its
focus with the addition of artwork from El Paseo and felt that was a good
opportunity to explore a major event proposal. She said after the research
was completed, a presentation would be made to the Committee for its
recommendation to the City Council.
Ms. O'Flynn announced that new dates were added to The Gardens'
Saturday night concert series for those performances that were rained out.
The new concert date for `The Art of Sax' would be April 30th, and the
proceeds would benefit the Pegasus Riding Academy for the
Handicapped. She said she would appreciate the Committee's help in
getting the word out.
C. Staff
Ms. Gilligan commented that the future of the City is the responsibility of
the Marketing Committee. She said the Committee needed to set the
future of where the City was going, and it was up to the Advertising
Coordinator to take the City in that direction. Councilmember Spiegel
inquired about arranging an off -site meeting about the direction for the
City. Ms. Gilligan said that could be arranged in the afternoon around
everyone's work schedules. Ms. Kneiding suggested that the meeting
take place after the budget was approved.
Kristy Kneiding thanked the Committee members for their time and hard
work.
Ms. Gilligan noted that the marketing contract was year-to-year and must
go out to bid every five years. However, the Committee must review it
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annually. Councilman Spiegel added that while the RFP process is
required every five years, the City has the option of initiating that process
sooner if it is unhappy with the marketing results at the end of any given
year.
D. Other Comments
Mike Osgood announced that Desert Willow won the Kemper Sports
property of the year award. He also announced that he was in Chicago
last month to receive the Director of Sales & Marketing of the Year award.
IX. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS
1. Visitor Information Center Activity Report
2. California Desert Nature Festival Sponsorship Packet
X. ADJOURNMENT
With Committee concurrence, the meeting was adjourned at 5.25 p.m.
Lori Wimbish, Recording Secretary
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