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CITY OF PALM DESERT
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION
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Wednesday, May 11, 2005
Administrative Conference Room
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 3:30 p.m. by Chairman Larsh.
II. ROLL CALL
Present:
Commissioner James Butzbach
Vice Chairman Rick Lebel
Commissioner Martin Nethery
Chairman James Larsh
Also Present:
Absent:
Commissioner Gloria Kirkwood
Councilman Richard S. Kelly
Carlos L. Ortega, City Manager
Sheila R. Gilligan, ACM for Community Services
Homer Croy, ACM for Development Services
Mark Greenwood, City Engineer
Robert Kohn, Director of Special Programs
Stephen Aryan, Assistant to the City Manager
Steve Thetford, Asst. Chief, Palm Desert Police Department
Ignacio Otero, Fire Chief, Palm Desert/Riverside County Fire Dept.
Craig Anthony, Riverside County Fire Chief
David Avila, Fire Marshal
Mary P. Gates, Recording Secretary
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
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IV. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Approval of Minutes of the April 13, 2005, Public Safety Commission
. Meeting
Rec: Approve as presented.
B. Letter to CVAG Advising of Public Safety Commission's Ratification
of the City of Palm Desert Public Safety Goals for Fiscal Year 2005/06
as Submitted by the Police Chief
Rec: Receive and file.
Commissioner Butzbach moved to approve the Consent Calendar as presented.
Motion was seconded by Vice Chairman Lebel and carried by a 4-0 vote, with
Commissioner Kirkwood ABSENT.
V. CONSENT ITEMS HELD OVER
None
VI. NEW BUSINESS
A. Palm Desert Fire Services Monthly Report - March, 2005
Chief Otero reviewed the report, noting that calls for service had
decreased this month by 12% due to winter visitors leaving the desert.
Commissioner Nethery questioned the statistics for Station #71, which
noted that two-thirds of the calls had response times of five minutes
or less, with an average response time of 4.7 minutes.
Chief Otero responded that Station #71 is the busiest station in the
City. While many of the calls had response times of 3-4 minutes,
there were some in the 6-7 minute range for the north side of the City.
Upon question by Vice Chairman Lebel, he responded that there is
still a volunteer company composed of approximately 15 individuals
who work out of Station #71.
Vice Chairman Lebel moved to, by Minute Motion, receive and file the Palm Desert
Fire Services monthly report for March, 2005. Motion was seconded by Commissioner
Butzbach and carried by a 4-0 vote, with Commissioner Kirkwood ABSENT.
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B. Palm Desert Target Team Monthly Statistics - April, 2005
Lt. Thetford reviewed the report and offered to answer any questions.
Commissioner Nethery moved to, by Minute Motion, receive and file the Palm
Desert Target Team monthly statistics for April, 2005. Motion was seconded by
Commissioner Butzbach and carried by a 4-0 vote, with Commissioner Kirkwood ABSENT.
C. Palm Desert Station - Traffic Collision Statistics for March, 2005
Lt. Thetford reviewed the report, noting that he was still working on
the DUI statistics to get a full year into the database for comparison.
Commissioner Butzbach noted that he had attended the recent "Every
15 Minutes" event held at Palm Desert High School in March. He felt
an outstanding job had been done by everyone involved with this
program.
Commissioner Butzbach moved to, by Minute Motion, receive and file the Palm
Desert Station - Traffic Collision Statistics for March, 2005. Motion was seconded by
Commissioner Nethery and carried by a 4-0 vote, with Commissioner Kirkwood ABSENT.
D. Presentation by Public Works Department Staff Relative to the
Possibility of the City of Palm Desert Taking Over Control and
Ownership of Highways 111 and 74
City Engineer Mark Greenwood reviewed his report dated
May 11, 2005, and offered to answer any questions. Upon question
by Vice Chairman Lebel, he responded that the Cities of Rancho
Mirage and Cathedral City had both taken over control and ownership
of their respective portions of Highway 111 approximately five years
ago. The City of Rancho Mirage reported 100% positive results, and
the City of Cathedral City reported overall positive results as well.
With regard to Palm Desert, all improvements to both Highway 111
and Highway 74 over the last ten years had been made by the City of
Palm Desert, done with Measure A monies and City funds. He noted
that the City of Indian Wells had recently passed a resolution of intent
to take over its section of Highway 111 and requested joint
participation by the City of Palm Desert in the legislative approval
process.
Commissioner Butzbach asked whether there was any involvement
with the Cities of Indio or La Quinta at this time. Mr. Greenwood
responded that although discussions had been held with the City of
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La Quinta, there was concern about Point Happy where the
mountainside is going down onto the Highway. He added that the
City of Indio had neither staff nor the ability to consider the issue at
this time.
Upon question by Commissioner Nethery, Mr. Greenwood responded
that he was not aware of anything like the City of La Quinta's
concerns that would create significant problems for the City of Palm
Desert, other than usual maintenance.
Commissioner Butzbach asked whether there were any capital
improvement projects scheduled for the next five years or so, and Mr.
Greenwood stated that everything had been completed at this time.
Upon further question regarding synchronization, he responded that
the cities were trying to coordinate the signals along Highway 74.
Upon question by Commissioner Nethery relative to additional
staffing, Mr. Greenwood responded that the general ratio is 50 signals
per technician, and Palm Desert's was currently at 65 signals. If the
City were to take over jurisdiction of Highways 74 and 111, that would
add 13 signals (12 on Highway 111; 2 on Highway 74) and would
bring the total number of signals to 80; therefore, staff would need to
request one additional technician in order to maintain the signals.
Commissioner Nethery moved to, by Minute Motion, approve staffs
recommendation to recommend to the City Council that it start the process of assuming
jurisdiction of Highways 111 and 74. Motion was seconded by Vice Chairman Lebel and
carried by a 4-0 vote, with Commissioner Kirkwood ABSENT.
VII. CONTINUED BUSINESS
A. Consideration of Proposed Cooperative Agreement with the County
of Riverside to Provide Fire Protection, Fire Prevention, Rescue, and
Medical Aid for the City of Palm Desert (continued from the meeting
of April 13, 2005)
Mr. Ortega reviewed the staff report dated May 11, 2005, and offered
to answer any questions. Upon question by Vice Chairman Lebel, he
noted that the cities were negotiating with the County of Riverside for
the structural fire tax and pass -through.
With regard to fire prevention and customer service to the business
community, County Fire Chief Craig Anthony expressed concern with
the comment on page 4 of the staff report that "The current policy of
the Fire Department is to cite now and resolve through the
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enforcement of the law including closing down the business." He said
that was not the policy of the Fire Department, as it was very
proactive with fire prevention activities. He said the report also
referred to complaints, and he said he had requested information
about those complaints so that he could respond; to date, he had not
received them and could not, therefore, respond to them. He felt
having City Building officials and the Fire Marshal in the same building
was ideal; however, he had been unable to accomplish that in the City
of Palm Desert. He said fire prevention and all the programs that go
along with that are a big deal to the Fire Department, and it involved
a lot more than merely transferring the responsibility of three people
(two Fire Systems Inspectors and one Fire Safety Specialist)
somewhere else. He added that fire prevention was a fundamental
part of the Fire Department. He suggested moving forward with
co -locating the Fire Marshal staff with City Building officials and trying
that first before removing Fire Marshal services from the Fire
Department and transferring them to the City of Palm Desert. He
added that with regard to arson investigation, transferring Fire
Marshal services to the City of Palm Desert would mean some
extended response times and the use of people from further out of the
immediate area.
Vice Chairman Lebel said at the last meeting he had questioned what
else the Fire Marshal does besides inspection work because he was
concerned with what the City might lose by considering transferring
those services. At Chief Anthony's request, the Fire Marshal had
prepared a report (on file and of record in the Community Services
Division), which had been distributed to members of the Commission.
Fire Marshal David Avila reviewed his report and offered to answer
any questions. With regard to the statement in the staff report about
the Fire Department citing businesses, he explained that imposing a
$50 administrative citation was done as a last resort. He said they
were not looking to cite people; their intent was to create compliance
and make Palm Desert a safer place. He noted that in addition to
inspection work, he automatically serves as Battalion Chief when the
individual in that position is on vacation, out ill, in training, etc. This
is at no extra cost to the City, since he is already on duty.
Vice Chairman Lebel said he was concerned about arson
investigation and asked what would happen if there were a major
incident in the City of Palm Desert.
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Chief Otero responded that an arson investigator would have to be
brought in from Indio or outside the Coachella Valley (i.e., Perris or
Riverside).
Upon question by Vice Chairman Lebel, Mr. Croy responded that
there currently was no room within City Hall for the Fire Marshal staff.
Upon question by Commissioner Nethery, he said he was not aware
of any other city in the Coachella Valley that directly provides the Fire
Marshal services.
Chief Anthony added that the Perris was the only city within Riverside
County that directly provides these services, and it has done so since
1999.
Commissioner Nethery asked where this idea originated and if it was
the result of complaints from the public, complaints from developers,
an issue of saving money, etc. He asked if there was a perceived
problem that led to this consideration.
Mr. Croy responded that it was a matter of cost savings as well as
other issues, such as customer service and coordination of services.
Commissioner Nethery asked if staff felt these issues could be
addressed by having Fire Marshal staff at the City, assuming there is
sufficient space for that. Mr. Croy responded that he felt that would
be a good recommendation from the Commission.
Chief Otero noted that he had met with Mr. Croy to discuss these
issues, and it was agreed that having someone at the City would help
resolve those issues. He added that the Fire Department planned to
move the Fire Inspectors to the station at the Town Center after
July 1, 2005, when the Cove Commission is dissolved.
After additional discussion, Vice Chairman Lebel moved to, by Minute Motion,
approve the City -provided fire inspection services via the cooperative agreement with the
County of Riverside, retaining the 52% of the Battalion Chief services and adding Fire
Safety Specialist and Fire Inspectors to the contract for the total cost of $302,125, with a
recommendation that the City explore relocation of the Fire Safety Specialist position to the
Building Department. Motion was seconded by Commissioner Nethery and carried by a
4-0 vote, with Commissioner Kirkwood ABSENT.
Commissioner Nethery moved to, by Minute Motion, recommend adoption of the
budget in Exhibit "A" of the staff report as presented, which includes the items contained
in the motion above. Motion was seconded by Commissioner Butzbach and carried by a
4-0 vote, with Commissioner Kirkwood ABSENT.
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With regard to the Memorandum of Understanding, Commissioner
Nethery noted that Section III A stated, "The Commission shall consist
of a membership of two elected officials or their alternates, also
elected officials. Each member of the Commission shall have two
votes on the Commission, and each vote shall be vested in and be
exercised by an elected official or his or her altemate." He asked
whether this should really state "...elected officials from each citv or
their alternates..." and "Each member gft of the Commission..." Mr.
Ortega agreed.
Commissioner Nethery moved to, by Minute Motion, recommend adoption of the
Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) as amended (Section III A to read: "Membership:
The Commission shall consist of a membership of two elected officials from each city or
their alternates, also elected officials. Each member city of the Commission shall have two
votes on the Commission, and each vote shall be vested in and be exercised by an elected
official or his or her alternate....." Motion was seconded by Vice Chairman Lebel and
carried by a 4-0 vote, with Commissioner Kirkwood ABSENT.
Vlll. OLD BUSINESS
None
IX. REPORT ON CITY COUNCIL ACTION (S)
None
X. REPORTS AND REMARKS
A. Update on the Citizens on Patrol Program
Mr. Kohn distributed copies of the Citizens on Patrol (COPS) report,
noting there were four new members currently going through the 13-
week academy in Palm Springs. The addition of these members
would bring the total number of COPS volunteers to 17. He also
distributed copies of the newly created brochures.
Upon question by Vice Chairman Lebel, Mr. Kohn responded that no
donations of funds had yet been requested or received; however,
John Fanning of the COPS program was currently working with
Jessup Auto Plaza on donation of a patrol vehicle.
Lt. Thetford noted that the Sheriff s Department was very pleased with
the COPS program and its volunteers.
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B. Progress Report on AB 1127 Relative to Establishment of Conference
Call Courts (report to be provided)
Mrs. Gilligan noted that Senior Management Analyst Pat Scully would
be meeting with Assemblywoman Bonnie Garcia in Sacramento today
to discuss AB 1127, and a report would be made at the next meeting.
C. Summer Meeting Schedule
Upon question by Commissioner Nethery, Mrs. Gilligan responded
that the City Council typically cancels its second meeting in July and
first meeting in August each year, and City Commissions are typically
dark in August. However, the Public Safety Commission could
determine which meeting, if any, to cancel.
Upon question by Vice Chairman Lebel, Chief Otero responded that
the Fire Department would continue to provide the same monthly
report to the Commission as it has been providing, including statistics
from the Fire Marshal's office. Any additional information the
Commission wishes to have included could be provided as well.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Butzbach moved to adjourn the meeting at 5:15 p.m. Motion was
seconded by Commissioner Nethery and carried by a 4-0 vote, with Commissioner
Kirkwood ABSENT.
Mary P. , Recording Secretary
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