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CITY OF PALM DESERT
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
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OCTOBER 3, 2006
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Randy Guyer convened the meeting at 8:30 a.m.
ROLL CALL
Present: Excused Absent
Chairman Randy Guyer Vice Chair Julie Munson (k )
Alternate Vice Chair Terry Schukart
Commissioner Phill Babcock
Commissioner Michael Barnard
Commissioner Dan Barnes
Commissioner Roger Dash A • .
Commissioner Gerald Dawson w W
Commissioner David Garcia (Alternate) z x
Commissioner Connor Limont arrived at 8:31 ., a o Q
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Staff Present:
Robert Spiegel, Council Member ,
Janis Steele, Parks &Recreation Services Manager
Jay Niemczak, Parks Maintenance Supervisor a
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Monica Loredo, Administrative Secretary z _
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Minutes of Parks & Recreation Commission of September 6, 2006, were
approved as submitted. Motion moved/seconded by Barnes/Schukart
and carried by an 8-0 vote with Commissioner Limont and Vice Chair
Munson ABSENT (Munson on leave of absence).
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Ms. Nancy Martel, Indian Wells, addressed the Commission to let them
know that people at the large dog park are concerned with the screen that
was installed between the large and small dog park and the misting
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system that cannot be controlled. She mentioned that a puppy was
abandoned in the dog park. She indicated that she has contacted Mr.
Hart Ponder, Code Department, to find the person that left the puppy and
seek justice for him. Ms. Martel also mentioned that since the screen is up
between the big and small dog park, they cannot see if a puppy will be
abandoned again. She indicated that Ms. Steele told her that security
cameras were being installed in the dog park. She asked who is going to
be monitoring the cameras 24/7 in case another animal is left abandoned.
Ms. Martel voiced her concern that there is no visibility at night.
Mr. Chris Bash, Palm Desert Youth Sports, requested if one side of the
Legends Fields columns could be left for a plaque for outgoing Youth
Sports presidents or volunteers so they could be recognized. He
mentioned that the Rutledge Strip has a 25-year lease. He hopes the
lease does not happen as it did with the high school where they only gave
the Palm Desert Youth Sports only 30 days to get out. Mr. Bash read from
prior Commission minutes, that some ball fields would be lost for two to
three seasons. He stated with no offense to the school district, that was a
straight out lie, and that he has been told that it has been bull dozed and
plowed under. He indicated that they are losing four fields plus the two
outfields, which technically are losing six fields. The school district is only
rebuilding varsity baseball and softball. Mr. Bash mentioned that he has
been having discussions with Ms. Steele about possibly having a fourth
field at Legends even if has to be small. Ms. Steele interjected the
possibility of having a third field (there are only two). Lastly, he asked if he
could be on the Committee for the new park being built in the north
sphere. He thanked the Commission for their time.
Chairman Guyer asked Mr. Bash if Ms. Steele knows how to get in contact
with him. He replied yes. Chairman Guyer also asked Ms. Steele if she
could follow up with the school district.
Mr. Craig DeWitt, CVRPD, provided the Commission with information they
requested at the previous Commission meeting concerning the usage of
the Palm Desert Community Center. He informed the Commission that
they installed a new tracking system May 2006, and they are still working
out the bugs. He stated that the information was retrieved from that
system. The information includes everyone that has bought passes of
some sort for the District and swipe when they walk in the building. He
stated that since May 2006, they had over 32,000 visits to the Palm
Desert, La Quinta, or Indio Community Centers. There have been
approximately 5,000 visits by Palm Desert residents. The number includes
if a Palm Desert resident visited a center in Indio or La Quinta. Mr. DeWitt
reported that there have been close to 6,000 passes sold, which includes
membership for the District, Desert Willow, and the Skate Park. He noted
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that Palm Desert residents have purchased 34% of passes. He reported
that there were 530 Skate Park passes sold with 160 of that number being
bought by Palm Desert residents. There were 4,475 memberships sold
with 25% bought by Palm Desert residents. He noted the memberships
include all the services provided District -wide. Lastly, 694 Desert Willow
cards were sold, which 100% are Palm Desert residents. Mr. DeWitt
stated that he would be happy to give the Commission more information or
detail. He indicated that the system is new and they are learning what the
system could do.
Alternate Chair Schukart asked Mr. DeWitt if he was a Palm Desert
resident and has a pass, would he be able to get into the center without
swiping. Mr. DeWitt responded that they hope not. The goal of the CVRPD
Staff is to make sure that everyone that comes in swipes their card. He
commented that there are people that pay $5 for a day pass. He stated
that the day passes are not included in the usage charts that he
presented. He commented that it is possible for someone to get in without
swiping.
Ms. Steele announced that Councilman Spiegel brought in a copy of The
Desert Sun dated Tuesday, October 3. She stated that the newspaper
reports the death of a sixteen year old in the Palm Desert Civic Center
Park. Ms. Steele reported that the sixteen -year old boy was boxing in the
park, which resulted in his death. There currently is an investigation in
process, and that she does not have any other information. City Staff is
going to wait until the investigation is complete before making any
recommendations.
Alternate Chair Schukart asked if there have ever been any reports by the
park ambassadors there has been any "fight club" activity in the park. Ms.
Steele responded that it is the first time that they have been aware of it in
the Civic Center Park. She commented that she communicates very
closely with the park ambassadors and they prepare reports if they see
any suspicious activity. She noted that she also communicates with the
Sheriffs Department.
Mr. DeWitt added that the park ambassador did mention that he did see
some activity (the same day) prior to the incident. He saw that the guys
had some equipment on and were doing some light sparring, and that it
looked like it was just a couple of guys enjoying the sunshine.
Chairman Guyer commented that after the investigation is complete, the
Commission should look if it is a new trend that they need to look at.
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V. PRESENTATIONS - None
VI. NEW BUSINESS - None
VII. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
A. SURVEY PRIORITIES
Discuss, review, and identify the top three to four survey priorities.
Ms. Steele reminded the Commission that at the previous meeting they
were asked to provide Staff with their top priorities. She indicated that
Staff received their priorities and compiled the information, which is
enclosed in their agenda packets.
She listed the aquatic center as a top priority with a gymnasium (state of
art facility) coming second and bicycle/walking trails following. Included
are the community programs and outreach to let people know about parks.
Commissioner Barnes commented that if the City does the aquatic center
and a community center, it would cover a lot of the items that the residents
say they want. He mentioned, for example, adult and wellness fitness
programs and after school programs.
Chairman Guyer remarked that he thought it was interesting that there is a
perceived lack of ball fields, and yet there was no emphasis for them in
the survey.
Commissioner Barnes noted that the Soccer Park is one of the most
utilized parks.
Commissioner Barnard mentioned that it is important to look at what is
already in existence, and not go build something right away because the
City has the money. They could make a change to an existing gym,
subsidize existing programs, promote existing programs, and possibly
partnership with schools and gyms.
Commissioner Barnes noted that the survey indicated that the residents
are not utilizing those facilities.
Commissioner Barnard commented that a priority would be to increase
marketing and promote programs, which would cover a lot of program
issues.
Commissioner Barnes expressed that the Bright Side is a very weak
communication. He feels a lot more could be done with that publication
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promoting the parks. Councilman Spiegel responded that his point has
been well taken and has made a note. He feels that there should be a
monthly column from Janis. He noted that there is going to be an article in
the November issue of the Bright Side regarding the new Disc Golf
Course.
Commissioner Barnes commented that they have addressed this issue
before. He mentioned that other cities have good publications such as
Santa Barbara.
Ms. Steele reminded the Commission that the 2007 City calendar would
be dedicated to the City's parks, new maps for parks are being developed,
and the City's website is being redesigned so you could hover of the park
site, see a map, pictures, amenities, and the address.
Commissioner Barnes stated if the Commission decides to build a
community center, he recommends the location being adjacent to the
university and share it with them. Chairman Guyer remarked that he would
not recommend it because the university is too busy.
Commissioner Barnes stated that there is a need for ball fields, he asked if
it were possible to build only the ball fields at the new north sphere park
instead of waiting for the whole park to be built. Chairman Guyer
commented that Commissioner Barnard is making notes since he is
heading the committee for the new park.
Ms. Steele announced that the land has been purchased for the new park
in the north sphere. She noted that the committee could schedule a
meeting.
Councilman Spiegel asked when the four fields at Freedom Park would be
open. Ms. Steele responded that there are only three fields. Originally
there were two fields planned. The Commission asked when the park
would be done. Ms. Steele responded in the spring of 2007, she added
that it was on schedule.
Ms. Steele stated that the new fields at Freedom Park would hold the City
for a while. The fields would replace the fields they are losing at the high
school. She asked the Commission to give Staff time to investigate. She is
scheduled to meet with the school district in a couple of weeks and will
discuss the ball fields at that time with them.
Councilman Spiegel explained that the original agreement with the City
Council was to have only two ball fields at Freedom Park because there
was not enough recreational land for people to have picnics. In the
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meantime, the school district is closing down fields due to the remodeling
of schools. He stated now that the objective is for the Commission and
City Staff recommend to the City Council to install three ball fields at
Freedom Park until the high school remodel is completed. Once the fields
at the high school are completed and if recreational space is still needed
at Freedom Park, the City will get rid of the third field at the park.
Councilman Spiegel mentioned that the land for the park in the north
sphere was purchased, but the road would not be built for another year.
He also noted that the City is in negotiations with the YMCA to triple the
size of their facility. The YMCA would be going from 5,000 square feet to
15,000 square feet. He commented that soon there would be another
larger facility for residents to utilize.
Commissioner Barnes asked when the committee could meet concerning
the features for the new park. Ms. Steele responded Commissioner
Barnard would set up a meeting with the committee.
Chairman Guyer recommended that the Commission motion to add a third
ball field to Freedom Park for City Council's approval.
ADD TO AGENDA:
Moved by Alternate Vice Chair Schukart to add the following item to
the agenda. Commissioner Dawson seconded the motion and carried
by a 9-0 vote with Vice Chair Munson ABSENT (Munson on LOA):
B. APPROVAL TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNICL TO ADD
A THIRD BALL FIELD AT FREEDOM PARK
Alternate Vice Chair Schukart moved to recommend to the City
Council to take part of the designated recreational land at Freedom
Park for a third ball field. In the future, once other facilities become
available the Commission will reassess whether the area will remain
as a ball field or reconvert into a recreational area. Commissioner
Dawson seconded the motion and carried by a 9-0 vote with Vice
Chair Munson ABSENT.
Alternate Vice Chair Schukart asked if there is timeline for the YMCA
expansion. Councilman Spiegel replied no.
Mr. Ballew, YMCA, stated that they working on the plans, and hope to
present them to Ms. Steele, the Commission, and the City Council in
about a month.
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Commissioner Babcock asked if the expansion would be done at the
current location or different location. Mr. Ballew responded that it would be
at the same location.
Chairman Guyer requested more input from the Commission on the
survey priorities.
Alternate Vice Chair Schukart asked if there is an active Boys and Girls
Club in Palm Desert. Ms. Steele responded that there is not. He
commented that they would need to look at other resources (partnerships)
that they could work with for programs and events.
Commissioner Barnes noted that the survey results mention a performing
arts center. He commented that the arts center could be easily set up in
the YMCA.
Councilman Spiegel suggested the Senior Center Theater.
Commissioner Barnard commented that when he ran the Senior Center,
they had a good program. He added that theatrical programs could be
very expensive. Also, that there are other cities that are looking into
having a performing arts theater in their city.
Councilman Spiegel mentioned that the McCallum Theater is discussing
putting in a black box theater, which is a small theater.
Commissioner Dawson asked if it would be appropriate for Mr. Vine and
Ms. Steele to write a summary of the Commission's top priorities for the
City Council study session.
Ms. Steele commented that she could talk to Mr. Vine about formalizing
the priorities and present a draft to the Commission before the City
Council study session.
Commissioner Barnes asked Ms. Steele if she had any experience with
performing arts groups. She responded not much and noted that the
YMCA had some day summer camps. She feels that there are some
small-scale theater programs that the City could do, which would make it a
perfect opportunity to partner with other facilities.
Commissioner Barnes asked Alternate Vice Chair Schukart if the
performing arts program at College of the Desert is only available for
students. He responded the program is for registered students and is part
of the curriculum.
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Councilman Spiegel noted that the City is working on some of the priorities
such as the aquatic center, a gymnasium (he referred to a group that is
expanding their facility), and bicycle and walking paths. The City Council
would like to know what the Commission would like to see happen.
Mr. Croy clarified that a study session is not a session to make decisions.
A study session is purely a time to educate the City Council and make
them aware of the programs and issues coming before them in the future.
Commissioner Barnes stated that the Commission has never discussed
what they would like to see in a community center. He requested if it could
be discussed at the next meeting.
VII1. REPORTS AND UPDATES
A. ADA ISSUES
Ms. Steele reported that the Deputy Building Official recently attended a
national conference on building and safety, which involved some ADA
issues. She included the information that was given to her in the agenda
packet. She stated as a follow up to the information she received, Parks
Maintenance Staff visited all of the City parks to identify any changes. The
packet includes a list of the changes they feel might need to be made to
comply with the ADA guidelines.
Chairman Guyer asked if the rules were new that the City did not know
about. Mr. Niemczak responded that rules have not yet been
implemented.
B. CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION
Ms. Steele announced that a City Council study session is scheduled for
Thursday, October 26, 2006, at 2:00 p.m. The Parks and Recreation
Commission are invited.
C. PARK INSPECTIONS
Ms. Steele reminded the Commission to complete their park inspections.
She asked the Commission to let her know if they need a copy of the
schedule or inspection sheets.
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IX. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Commissioner Barnes commented that the bike and walking trails is one
of the City's priorities. He communicated that he envisions that is a priority
that exists with all other valley cities from Palm Springs to Indio. He asked
if the Palm Desert City Council is getting together with other cities or the
Coachella Valley Association of Governments on developing more trails.
Councilman Spiegel responded that staff from each city is working on
trails. Palm Desert has done everything to build the City's walking trails,
and it is now up to the other cities to build their's. He added that Staff is
working on the bike trails.
Commissioner Barnes stated that there are no good bicycle trails in the
City of Palm Desert for 25-mile ride. He noted the sidewalks could not be
used or streets with high traffic. Mr. Croy responded that the Marketing
Department created a map showing different links of bike trails.
Chairman Guyer communicated that once the City completes the bike
trails in Palm Desert, it would be easier to go to other cities and ask why
the trails do not extend into their communities.
Commissioner Babcock reaffirmed that there is a need to have a bike trail
to link all cities together. He suggested giving City Council bicycles.
Commissioner Barnard asked Commissioner Babcock if he is referring to
bike lanes on the shoulder of the road. He replied yes.
Councilman Spiegel thanked those who attended the committee and
commission brunch at Desert Willow. He mentioned that there would be
awards for all commission members.
Councilman Spiegel asked Ms. Steele if she could talk to the editor of The
Desert Sun to do a nice article on the City's Disc Golf Course. Ms.
Kaufman, Desert Sun, indicated that there was one done earlier and she
would bring it up again. Ms. Steele noted that there was an article in the
Press Enterprise.
Ms. Steele announced that on Friday, November 10, the City is
sponsoring the Commodores Jazz Ensemble in the Civic Center Park.
They are a United States Navy Band. She also announced that CVRPD is
having a concert series. Two concerts will be held in the Palm Desert Civic
Center Park and one will be held at the Indio Municipal Golf Course. The
concerts in Palm Desert are free.
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Alternate Vice Chair Schukart announced that the City and College of the
Desert have scheduled a trophy game on October 28, 2006, from 5:00 to
7:00 p.m. The football game will start at 7:00 p.m. It will be a family event
with rides, food, and games. He noted that it is free for Palm Desert
residents. He mentioned since the article in the newspaper concerning the
aquatic center, he has received several communications from a couple of
members of the Commission, College of the Desert Board of Trustees,
and the City Council. The members concerns are the height of the slides
being an aesthetic issue. He feels that the issue needs to be addressed.
Councilman Spiegel referred to a letter in The Desert Sun that was sent to
the editor regarding the way he voted. He noted that he does not vote at
the Commission meetings. The person was complaining about all the
features in the aquatic center. He commented the Commission has to
have the concept of an aquatic center go through, then make the decision
of what features to include depending on the expense.
Ms. Steele stated that she met with the aquatic center architects last week
and they were going to provide her with new drawings. She stated that the
architect is going to lower the tower by ten feet and do some nice
screening on the side of the Golf Center. They will also address the colors
of the slides.
Councilman Spiegel noted that it is not the City's intention to compete with
Knott's Soak City.
Commissioner Barnes asked Ms. Steele if the Planning Department have
analyzed the parking situation. She responded that Mr. Drell was present
in the meeting she had with the architect. She stated that Staff is working
on a parking agreement with College of the Desert.
Commissioner Barnes asked Ms. Steele if they are working with the City
engineers' concerning the corner of San Pablo and Park View Drive. She
replied yes.
X. ADJOURNMENT
Upon motion by Commissioner Dawson, second by Alternate Vice Chair
Schukart, and unanimous vote of the Commission, Chairman Guyer
adjourned the meeting at 9:50 a.m.
Monica Loredo, Recording Secretary
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